i am not your typical fan,i am 50 years old,i have grandchildren,but i love this world of art and music.i am a late arrival but i have dove in head first and loving it.Ciwana and some others have been my guides into this new world.thank you so much!!
@CiwanaBlack5 жыл бұрын
thank you very much for this comment. I hope u and your grandchildren are doing well. :)
@philiplievens38355 жыл бұрын
Live begins at 50!!!
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@Hank Derrick Instablaster =)
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@Turner Everett thanks so much for your reply. I got to the site through google and im in the hacking process atm. Takes a while so I will get back to you later with my results.
@ScheherazOdd7 жыл бұрын
This looks like so. much. fun! Thank you for making this video! I've heard about WGT many times, but it was cool to actually see what it's like to be there!
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
:D it´s awesome! Maybe you can go somewhen
@ScheherazOdd7 жыл бұрын
Ciwana Black I sure hope so! I wish we had events like that where I live... All we have is something called 'Pig Out in the Park." It has good food, but it's woefully lacking in goth content! ;)
@shalafi75257 жыл бұрын
as always awesome video! i cant tell you how much i appreciate all the work you do. thank you for sharing!
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
^.^ thank you!
@TheGoldeneyez20127 жыл бұрын
looks like fun. I would love to go to one of these fests if I ever get to Germany or Europe.
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
You should! :) They are really fun.
@HAL1.97.46 жыл бұрын
Wie immer die besten Vids. Alle anderen quatschen und interviewen nur. Schaffen es aber nicht, wie du, die Impressionen einzufangen. Weiter so!
@HalfOgre05207 жыл бұрын
The costumes seem very extravagant this year! I love your pliers earrings! Very cool that your wee babe got to come along...on the outside of mommy this time! You and your friends look gorgeous in anything and awesome video!
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! :) Yes, I was very happy that she was with us this time.
@ryanlake52992 жыл бұрын
@@CiwanaBlack nice video
@ColinStuart2 жыл бұрын
Ciwana, what fun! I even saw my friend Black Friday pop into view for a time!
@kevinismawayoflife46606 жыл бұрын
Looks like a great festival. Not my thing, but the whole look/vibe is awesome. I go to a lot of camping/music festivals. The thing that kept popping into my mind as I watched this is how difficult it must have been to get all suited up in these elaborate outfits while living in a tent. You all look amazing. Love the look/Hate the music ☮️
@CiwanaBlack6 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! :D well...music is a subject people will never agree on.^^
@epenmedi7 жыл бұрын
you had me by 14.00. Great Video. great to see what WGT is doing.
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
=) Thank you!
@bocklinskitten43357 жыл бұрын
sorry for the bad weather, but i still wish i was there, thanx, Ciwana, and congratulations for your baby
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
thank you! :D
@Queencrazy19977 жыл бұрын
that squeeeee moment when you see some of your favorite youtubers in a piece of the video
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
^.^
@babymay4ugiles3207 жыл бұрын
just watched your vid. i wish they had someyhing loke thiz here. if we did i wasnt aware. but i seen all varities style. love t he music the most tho. ty for such a wonderful video
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
thank you!!!! :)
@stratcast6677 жыл бұрын
Nice video with a great summary of the festival (I see I missed some good bands because of poor last minute research). And great white cyber outfit :)
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
:D thank you!
@horaciorcastillo98487 жыл бұрын
amazing !Thank You for share Ciwana ! greetings from argentina.
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :) Greetings from Germany! :)
@swanbrown7 жыл бұрын
If ever I visit Germany, The reason will probably be one of these festivals. If I do, I will surely seek your council.
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
:) You should. The Wave-Gotik-Treffen is awesome! :)
@toxxxicindustrial59887 жыл бұрын
beautiful ciwana thank you for sharing.. me and a few friends were mean to go but i ended up really ill.. bought a new cyber goth outfit too :( maybe next year tho
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
that´s unfortunate. I hope you get better soon and make it next year!
@fractalign7 жыл бұрын
This was my first WGT and also my first ever goth event. I came all the way from Australia for this. While I have been going to other kinds of festivals for decades and camped. This iis the only one where I stayed in a hotel and I am so glad I did. I am not sure if will go back again but this was the most amazing thing I have ever experienced and I hope my friends will get to experience it too one day.
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
I am glad that it was a really nice WGT for you! :) And I hope you can come back someday again :D
@Tearguard7 жыл бұрын
Nice Vid like always! I saw you on Friday evening at the Heidnisches Dorf with your Baby on your back. :) I didnt know you where camping there. oO
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
I am camping every year! :) (only last year not - because I was 9 month pregnant at the time^^)
@metrotek57 жыл бұрын
I'd kill to go to WGT Seriously Ciwana ... You're amazing.
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :) Well then come along next year! :)
@shapereinhardt31516 жыл бұрын
Hi, any websites where one could find these outfits? Thanks
@Faithulmommygaming12804 жыл бұрын
I wonder if rominanacht is there my gothic queen 🤗🤗🤗😘😘😘
@nicolento1686 жыл бұрын
Done well with this impression. Thank you.
@CiwanaBlack6 жыл бұрын
:3
@ThierryGil19717 жыл бұрын
HI Ciwana ! What a great moment you had... Should I have to go; one day... Please, tell me what are the bands. It's gorgeous !!! Kiss.
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
you can see all information about the WGT here. They are only a bit slow with updating the website :D www.wave-gotik-treffen.de/info/info.php
@ThierryGil19717 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your answer Ciwana.
@kaycelblacksatanist64453 жыл бұрын
¿Cuales son los penúltimos grupos musicales?
@wuadabi66296 жыл бұрын
...Yes!!!... Wonderful!!!
@grouabissal7 жыл бұрын
gosto muito do seus vídeos!!!!, mesmo sendo diferente nosso gosto musical, porque eu gosto de Doom Metal e Funeral Doom!!!!, mesmo assim admiro seu trabalho e a respeito muito!!!!, Parabéns!!!!, BRASIL
@grouabissal7 жыл бұрын
um dia eu irei até o Wave-Gotik-Treffen (WGT), Leipzig
@arturelvis7 жыл бұрын
Um dia quero ir também
@oskyosbourne92747 жыл бұрын
Alessandro Marcelo Montenegro llevame.
@molch66677 жыл бұрын
hihi, wie lustig. bei system noire saß ich mit meinem freund links an dem Tisch wo du die kamera abgelegt hattest. :) :D ich sah dieses video und dachte mir “diese frau kennst du irgendwo her!“ und dann kam die verbindung... echt cool! :)
@Rosstacular6 жыл бұрын
Hey Ciwana, if you have time could you make a video about WGT 2018? Location tips, band suggestions this year, etc? If I see you I'll be sure to say hello, first timer :)
@CiwanaBlack6 жыл бұрын
♥ thank you for the suggestion! :) I will. :)
@Rosstacular6 жыл бұрын
you da best :D
@jorikhabicht56186 жыл бұрын
Ich lebe in Leipzig und jetzt ist gerade wave gotik wieder also dieses wochenende ich hab schon viele schwarze leute gesehen
@asstanu17 жыл бұрын
Best regards from México your video is amazing, please upload playlist thx my friend
@ayoubblack47006 жыл бұрын
Super ❤❤👑
@killertekkkno6667 жыл бұрын
hey miss Black, die Auswahl deiner Songs ist immer wieder der absolute Kracher. Hast du zufällig ne öffentliche playliste bei spotify oder irgendwo anders?
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
Erstmal danke schön! :) Nein, hab ich nicht, aber ich kann mir ja mal überlegen eine anzulegen :D
@hollehonig79486 жыл бұрын
Ja bitte. Würde das absolut befürworten ;-)
@ryanlake29116 жыл бұрын
Ciwana Black nice video
@eltonrodrigo13587 жыл бұрын
do you have Facebook ciwana black ?
@melgoeshome_tiktok7 жыл бұрын
Ich darf erst ab 18 mit meiner Mutter zum gothic Festival hingehen ich bin in 2 Monaten erst 15 und mein onkel sagt dass ich schon nächstes Jahr mit ihm hingehen darf. Auf wen soll ich hören
@bernardnanard53226 жыл бұрын
Melanie Bertram hello Mélanie ich liebe auch gothique ich sprechen french 💋 Bernard schweitz
@user-ev9ll3ou2u6 жыл бұрын
Melanie Bertram wenn sowas ist mach dein Ding, lebe dein Leben, sammel Erfahrungen und spiele keine Marionette, da passiert ja nichts schlimmes
@XxXxXxX-k9v7 жыл бұрын
omg its black friday!
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
Yes, she was there this year again :D
@alexandervonkarnstein7 жыл бұрын
So what?!
@bjrnolavhagen88052 жыл бұрын
you are very nice and am love this music to and you good to dance to
@lisastarves55436 жыл бұрын
How much os it to get in wgt... asking..
@ПавелБезсмертний7 жыл бұрын
Who is the singer? 1:27
@alejandrorodriguez-do7rj7 жыл бұрын
awesome, this would be the main reason to go to germany of course, dark music and goth girls , i ve been with some german girls and swiss and austrian girls but never one like these goth queens ha, i dont dress like that but i know all of these music, havent play it for some time as today , Ciwana you are the best of course
@andreasbreier21376 жыл бұрын
Hallo ciwana, könntest du mir den Titel verraten der ganz am Anfang des Videos von System Noire zu hören ist ? MfG. Andy
@CiwanaBlack6 жыл бұрын
In der videobeschreibung stehen die Musiktitel immer =)
@hardrain867 жыл бұрын
Du hast ein kind zur welt gebracht und siehst danach so aus????? cO wow respekt und vor allem glückwunsch
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
Danke schön!:) ja, die kleine war auch mit auf dem WGT ^^
@chrisortiz14626 жыл бұрын
Wave gotik treffen or mera luna fest? Is similar or totally different
@CiwanaBlack6 жыл бұрын
different. WGT is on many locations and offers more then just concerts. Mera Luna is more a "tradiontional" festival with camping and two big stages - were you stay the entire time at the location. (I like both festivals a lot) :)
@ursbissels64147 жыл бұрын
very cool video and music!!! thank you very much!!!! :)))
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
=^.^=
@andreamaerz49156 жыл бұрын
Wer singt da im Hintergrund?hammer musik..
@CiwanaBlack6 жыл бұрын
Danke schön!! :) Musik ist in der Video-Beschreibung.
@ostwestfalischehochmoorlei47057 жыл бұрын
*auf die alten Karten kuck* unser letztes WGT war 2009... nächstes Jahr müssen wirs auch mal wieder hin schaffen.... man tröstet sich aber jedes Jahr mit der Mera Luna oder Amphi Karte...
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
:D Ja, ich glaube dann wird es wirklich mal wieder Zeit fürs WGT!
@freddynile45146 жыл бұрын
where to buy all chlotes ?
@CiwanaBlack6 жыл бұрын
selfmade or amazon. :)
@Elfe4257 жыл бұрын
Hallo! Kann mir vielleicht jemand verraten, von welcher Band der Song bei 1.32 ist!? Der Song ist nämlich geil........
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
SUAD von Nameless Identity. :) Steht auch in der Info-Box.
@arturelvis7 жыл бұрын
Wath The last song?
@caseypilarczyk93126 жыл бұрын
So cool
@CiwanaBlack6 жыл бұрын
thank you! :)
@gengaraproved84357 жыл бұрын
This video proves I had really bad luck trying to meet up well-known goths, aside from Centhron (which you couldn't visit because of your baby) and Chrom, I visited the exact same concerts, yet I failed meeting you. In fact you were even standing only a little bit behind me at Rotersand's concert. I would have loved to meet you. But I also failed meeting Black Friday, which can defy more logic, because I have a way different music taste than Black Friday, until I realized Black Friday had a meet and greet at Queen of Darkness. In fact I went shopping at the Agra Halle on Sunday too, but because I already bought a lot at Queen of Darkness the previous day, I skipped that shop the day after.
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
Oh that´s really bad luck :( well, I am gonna be there next year again (and at Mera Luna and Summer Breeze). So I hope you are more luck in the future :) They actually had a sign for Black Friday that said you would do a meet and greet on Sunday.
@gengaraproved84357 жыл бұрын
Well, where was it? I didn't notice it anywhere!
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
It was right in front off the Queen of Darkness Store. But the Black Fair was really crowed, so I guess it was quiet eays to miss.
@gengaraproved84357 жыл бұрын
Oh God, really? I went to both the discount stand and the regular stand of Queen Of Darkness and I didn't notice it. I have to say that I was in a rush when I went to the regular Queen Of Darkness stand on Saturday, as it was 20 up to 30 minutes before the show of Rotersand.
@elbassoone6 жыл бұрын
Thumbs up for the girl in da thumbnail on the right side. 💖
@KyrreEleison7 жыл бұрын
Come to Castle Party in Poland one day!
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
when is it this year? =) I have heard about it....so maybe I should really go :D
@KyrreEleison7 жыл бұрын
It was 13-16 July. In 2018 it will be 12-15 July. I hope to see you there, I'm sure you would love it and the people would love you too!
@davehooper44987 жыл бұрын
I love it.... I watch your videos at WGT every year Ciwana. You look as beautiful as ever... and congratulations at becoming a yummy mummy. Power to your new family. Dave... Love from England
@oldartaccount81057 жыл бұрын
Sehr schickes Video, auch wieder mit schön vielen Aufnahmen für die Ewigkeit ;) Mir fiel auf, ich hab dich auf dem viktorianischen Picknick fotografiert, kann dir die Bilder schicken wenn du magst :) Ich mach aber bald noch ein Video mit allen, da werden die auch mit drin sein, wird dann eins der vielen WGT Videos XD
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
Hallo! :) Und erstmal vielen Lieben Dank! Und ja, ich würde mich sehr über die Bilder freuen. kzbin.infoabout da findest du auch meine Email :) Es sind ja aber auch viele Leute unterwegs, die sich über ein paar Fotos oder Filmchen von sich freuen :D
@oldartaccount81057 жыл бұрын
Nichts zu Danken :) Okay, dann schick ich sie gleich :) Ja das stimmt ^^ Nur schade, dass man die meisten nicht wieder findet um ihnen die Bilder zu geben :/ Von mir wurden ja auch ein paar Bilder gemacht, immer spannend zu beobachten, wie viele davon letztendlich im Netz auftauchen :'D
@VerbenV7 жыл бұрын
egal ob Schwarz, Syber, Waver oder EBMer wir sind eine Familie und wir treffen uns järlich zu Pfingsten um uns wieder zu sehen.... ich gehöre zu den tiefgründigen schwarzen dazu. Aber ich freue mich immer wieder über alle anderen die und zu Pfingsten besuchen. p.s. Ich bin auch nicht unbedingt der Freund von Waver/Cyber aber ich akzeptiere sie genau so wie sie mich mit meiner stille akzeptiere.......
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
:) freut mich zu lesen, dass es auch Leute gibt, die das so sehen wie ich. Ich gehöre zu den Cybern (im Alltag aber nur Schwarz). Und es gibt auf dem WGT auch immer mal wieder Style die ich nicht so ansprechend finde. Trotzdem freue ich mich jedes Jahr auf das "Familientreffen" der Schwarzen Szene - und akzeptiere jeden so wie er ist, solange er freundlich ist.
@evolvetravel16 жыл бұрын
I wanna go so bad.. Canadian goth here
@edwardlancaster36597 жыл бұрын
Always great music to your videos awesome 😁 and also why can't we have big festivals like this the England alternative artist instead of the pop shit there is not much alternative music over here in England it's all the same old pop shit
@kerstinconrad25717 жыл бұрын
Viele düstere Grüße nach Leipzig. (endlich mal normale Leute)
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
:D Ich freu mich auch schon aufs WGT 2018
@charliecurjar17342 жыл бұрын
Diese Musik ist nur teilweise meins so mit 54... aber ich finde es voll geil (als Transfrau gesprochen), dass dich da jeder da so darstellen kann wie er, oder sie sich fühlt oder bock drauf hat... cooles Event...
@Kilemalletgodsrtout7 жыл бұрын
The women are absolutely gorgeous
@ProfessorFickle7 жыл бұрын
Ciwana! greetings from California! You need a 'Pop-up-Trailer' for your Camping! Unless you can afford a RV . :)
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
Thank you! :) Well I acutally like sleeping in a tent.^^
@ProfessorFickle7 жыл бұрын
Ciwana Black We'll Pop up trailers are Tents ⛺️ on wheels :) en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popup_camper
@OutyBanjo7 жыл бұрын
12:26 - "The fuck is this, mommy?"
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
:D
@ivoo877 жыл бұрын
wgt und dann auch noch regen :D ich hoffe das hat die stimmung nicht zu sehr verhagelt ^^
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
:) Es war ja zum Glück ziemlich warm und zu den entscheidenden Zeiten hat es immer aufgehört zu regnen :D War ein sehr schönes WGT.
@pumpkinsmash97607 жыл бұрын
11:36 black friday?
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
yes^^
@RoSouza7 жыл бұрын
Brasil, SP.
@Rfreer536 жыл бұрын
You go girl xoxo
@lestatangel5 жыл бұрын
🖤
@sorenbarthel97546 жыл бұрын
Wieso redest du net deutsch in deinen Beiträgen?
@yuriihalaburda77707 жыл бұрын
great movie!)
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@srdark653 жыл бұрын
11:36 ,” Its black Friday”
@salidasescapadasytonterias45082 жыл бұрын
cool la video
@truthhunter53287 жыл бұрын
meine freundinn war im video! sie lief da so und ihr Vater rennt neben ihr.
@truthhunter53287 жыл бұрын
my bestfriend was in the video her dad rans beside here whole she walk normaly
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
:D sehr cool
@truthhunter53287 жыл бұрын
War bei 5:54 die mit dem kürbis rucksack und ich bin zwar kein gothic aber ich finde die toll weil die wirklich nett und höfflich sind ich sprech aus erfahrung
@adrianwhittingham53206 жыл бұрын
I'd love to go just to feel normal
@cloudygothic83524 жыл бұрын
You are very beautiful goth!!
@wildcardcrystalballloversl74397 жыл бұрын
♡♡♡♡♡SWEET♡♡♡♡♡ #CiwanaBlack
@perrybryson44932 жыл бұрын
I think you are an amazing women
@sinisterseductionband47592 жыл бұрын
Meeeeeega
@amberboggs75437 жыл бұрын
Stay Goth my friends
@wodzimierzradomski39932 жыл бұрын
Grüße cifana Königin cyber goth
@Fitelmar7 жыл бұрын
From 4:24 you sound like Bruno ( Sacha Baron Cohen gay character from Austria)
@Vampkiki7 жыл бұрын
lolita spotting @ 2:34
@Boehser_Cabal7 жыл бұрын
Ich brech ab...ihr ward genau gegenüber von meinem Camp...dem "Camp Biber"... Wir...die mit dem großen Wunschbrunnen (und Bierfischteich), der badischen Flagge und einer weißen Flagge wo ein blauer Biber drauf ist. Und ich glaube wir haben noch meinen Gartenschlauch von der Wasserstelle zu eurem Planschbecken gelegt, damit ihr euer Bier kühlen könnt...
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
:D Hier seit doch auch jedes Jahr am gleichen Platz oder? =) Komm doch nächstes Jahr einfach auf ein Bierchen rüber - wir sind jedes Jahr bei der Aktion Butterblume zu finden :)
@Boehser_Cabal7 жыл бұрын
Hi Ciwana. Aktion Butterblume...jetzt wo du es sagst, dann fällt mir euer Lager mit eurer Flagge wieder ein. Ja...wir sind nach Möglichkeit immer am selben Platz...zwischen dem Securitycontainer und den Waschstellen. Nächstes Jahr ist übrigens ein Jubiläum. Unser Camp (Camp Biber), die mit dem drehenden Spanferkel am Weg aus Holland/Chemnitz und die vom Kunst am Brauzaun feiern "gemeinsames" 10-Jähriges Bestehen und da sind wohl einige Aktionen geplant...ihr als weitere treue Nachbarn dürft da wohl einiges mitkriegen... Bierchen? Kein Problem...bin dabei. Ach ja...wenn ich mir so deine Videos betrachte, dann wird man sich dieses Jahr wohl noch auf anderen Festivals sehen...(Wacken, Meraluna, Summerbreeze etc...)? Sollte ich dich erkennen muss das Bierchen wohl nicht bis nächstes Jahr warten. ;-)
@passageiro47913 жыл бұрын
Queria com uma mulher assim 😁👍
@iwannadied73286 жыл бұрын
You its so beautiful.
@zyim1m2537 жыл бұрын
♡♡♡
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
^.^
@nightwhisper41157 жыл бұрын
Cool Cheers!:)
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
:)
@thomashanns36357 жыл бұрын
Your boyfriend is the luckiest man in the world you are a goddess.
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
^^ thank you
@pol62686 жыл бұрын
🎩
@wodzimierzradomski39933 жыл бұрын
Grüße Mädchen cibergoth
@Galamasunrise5 жыл бұрын
Für mich ist das Treffen nix, wenn ich mir vorstelle 150 Euro Ticket. Klar man hat damit alles frei, S-Bahn und Events in Leipzig aber ich höre diese Musik nicht ich bin nur Gothic und höre aber normalen Rock und Blues. Mich interessieren nur die Kleider und die kann ich mir auch im Internet anschaun.
@CiwanaBlack5 жыл бұрын
Ist ja auch in Ordnung. Aber für mich ist das ein bisschen so zu sagen wie ich hab keine Lust Geld für eine Reise auszugeben, sondern schau mir stattdessen einen Travel Vlog an. :D Dabei sein ist aus meiner Sicht immer noch was anderes als übers Internet zugeschaut. ^^
@zaninhord7 жыл бұрын
linda.
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
gracias! :)
@MrGuardiarossa2 жыл бұрын
ooooooooooooh
@bob690757 жыл бұрын
Dream girl ^_^
@hoschij.83556 жыл бұрын
Gothic ist wirklich tot 😪. Finde das sehr schade. Das ganze erinnert eher an ein ARD Mainstreamfestival !!!
@Lestat2737 жыл бұрын
What is this rotten music? Where are Joy Division, Bauhaus, Siouxsie, The Cure, The Sisters of Mercy, Fields of the Nephilim, etc. A cyber-goth is not a Gothic! It's not gothic that you listen to, but it's techno you're listening to !!! I'm so sorry...
@cachonduty6 жыл бұрын
sandstorm dark is a gothic electro body music please
@Kuradoll6 жыл бұрын
Elitists everywhere.. Fuck off
@mysubliminalsecrets50086 жыл бұрын
Something a lot of these "goth" festivals have been missing lately.
@philipbrazill21555 жыл бұрын
Yeah this is a weirdo convention for sure. It seems like a pretty common thing over there in there country. No individualism at all. Everyone is cheap ass carbon copies.
@pexigaming85877 жыл бұрын
what happend to us human
@bellarosse9536 жыл бұрын
O M G. 😈😈😈😈😱😰😰👎👎👎
@diversantdiversantov62497 жыл бұрын
ПОНТЫ-ДОРОЖЕ ДЕНЕГ, ПОНТОВЩИК ЭТО ЗНАЕТ! а в рашке бы друг у друга всё перетырили бы.
@CyberGothRussia3 жыл бұрын
При чем тут сербский городок, клоун?
@Gonschi6667 жыл бұрын
Diese Cyper und Victorian ist kein GOTHIC !!!! danke - weglassen , oder nachdenken - natürlich beides erlaubt .....
@CiwanaBlack7 жыл бұрын
mimmiimii...da schlägt die Gothic-Polizei wieder zu. Ich trage im Alltag nur Schwarz, zum Weggehen aber sehr gerne Cyber. Und ich fühle mich der Gothic-Szene zugehörig. Nur weil einem ein Style nicht gefällt, muss man ja nicht ständig drauf rum hacken. Einige Sachen aus dem BDSM Bereich oder Drag gefallen mir auch nicht. Trotzdem finde ich es schön, dass man (normalerweise) auf dem WGT einfach aktzeptiert wird wie man ist.
@kidaria13337 жыл бұрын
Erstmal lernen die Begriffe gothic, goth und schwarze Szene zu unterscheiden bevor man rummosert. Außerdem heißt es extra "viktorianisches Picknick" und nicht "gothic Picknick"...
@Gonschi6667 жыл бұрын
Du bist ja nen ganz schlaues Etwas , dann sollen Sie es doch bitte an irgend einem anderen Tag veranstalten aber nicht zu Pfingsten !!!
@Gonschi6667 жыл бұрын
Sich schwarz kleiden heisst noch lange nicht Gothic .... mimimi und wenn du deinen Cyperkram so gerne trägst dann geh doch so auf Arbeit !!!!
@Monoceros157 жыл бұрын
Ich kann den Ärger schon verstehen. Bei vielen Berichten werden Randgruppen (Cyber/Steampunk/Mittelalter), welche nur noch wenige Berührungspunkte mit der Szene haben, sehr stark in den Mittelpunkt gerückt. Allerdings ist sie keine professionelle Journalistin und zeigt eben einfach ihr WGT aus einer subjektiven Perspektive.