#27: 7th-Century ROCK INSCRIPTIONS Debunk Islam!

After proving with the coins that the Standard Islamic Narrative is completely wrong concerning how Islam began, we now go to the Rock Inscriptions to find a similar problem.
Rock Inscriptions, because they are made out of rocks which don't disintegrate or deteriorate over the centuries, are excellent pieces of evidence from the 7th century to give us a window into what was happening in that part of the world and at that time.
So far researchers have located over 100,000 Rock inscriptions with 30,000 of them catalogued and surveyed across Arabia, the Negev, the Trans-Jordan, and Syria. Another 70,000 more have yet to be catalogued.
One would expect Muhammad’s name, or references to Islam, or to Muslims, or even references to the Qur'an and Mecca on these inscriptions, all of which are located along the Haj routes, yet we don’t find one inscription with any of these references on them until after 690 AD, a full 60 years after Muhammad supposedly died.
the Arabic used in these inscriptions are all chiselled in the Nabataean-Aramaic script which was the same Arabic which is later used in the earliest Qur'anic manuscripts. If they had been created in
the Hijaz part of Arabia (i.e. the central Western area), as Muslims tell us, they would have used the southern Sabain script which was used in what is today Yemen and Oman, a script which had been created in 600 BC, and continued for 1200 years in southern and central Arabia.
Ironically, the Sabaic script contained all the needed vowels and consonants required for a religious text, unlike the 7th century Arabic text which was used for the earliest Qur'anic manuscripts, which only employed between 14 - 16 consonantal letters, but without any of the 5 diacritical dots, nor the 3 vowels, all of which had to be created in the 8th and 9th centuries in order for people to understand what they were reading in the Qur'an.
Furthermore, in the 7th century there were no rock inscriptions in the central part of Western Arabia, because there were too few people living there, due to the desert environment of that area. Without water, you cannot have many people, and without large numbers of people, just like the coins, you aren't going to have many rock inscriptions.
Dr Ilka Lindstedt, in his research of rock inscriptions between the years 640 AD - 740 AD (which is roughly the Umayyad Period) found that almost all of the 7th century rock inscriptions were located in the north (i.e. around what is today Jordan, Israel, Lebanon, and Syria), and in the far south (i.e. around what is today Yemen).
His findings concerning what these inscriptions said were also quite striking:
Pre-690: Prior to 690 there was no evidence of anything Islamic on the Inscriptions (i.e. there was nothing written about Muhammad, nor about the Qur'an, nor about anyone called Muslims, nor about any religion called Islam, nor even anything about a city called Mecca), which because these all should have been in existence for over 60 years should have reference to reference about them. Except for certain pre-Islamic formulae, there is just nothing Islamic at all.
690 AD - 710 AD: References to a prophet called Muhammad begin to appear. But this is still not a prophet who lived in Mecca or Medina, but much further north.
710 AD - 720 AD: References to Muslim rites begin to appear, which include the pilgrimage, prayers, and even fasting.
720 AD - 730 AD: It is only at this late date that we begin to find the name 'Muslim' and 'Islam' used as a specific group in contradistinction to Christianity.
Consequently, it was only in the 730s and on-wards that there is evidence of a popular devotion to Muhammad as a prophet and messenger, which makes the Islamic Traditions incredibly awkward, since they clearly state that this all occurred during the time of Muhammad himself, which according to their dates would have happened over a century earlier.
Much like almost every piece of evidence we are finding in the 7th century, these rock inscriptions categorically debunk the Standard Islamic Narrative historically.
Watch as Al Fadi and Dr. Jay use these inscriptions to hammer yet another nail into the historicity of origins of Islam.
© Pfander Centre for Apologetics - US, May 15, 2023
(73,400) Music: "Reaching the Sky" by Alexander Nakarada, from filmmusic-io

[@gaslowringfa6951]

God bless you brother from Nigeria

[@BurningLattice]

Damn this is what I have been telling them in mu psych class, no one believed me, I was even booted out that day, now I found the video to explain it well. Thank you!!!

[@m.suhaidi4966]

Hahahahaha, of course there's not any records or stone inscriptions for several decades because most of the prophet's and The Four Rightly Guided Caliph has ORAL RECORDS. EVERYTHING ON THE STONE INSCRIPTIONS ARE MEMORIZED BY HEART BY MOST MUSLIMS FOR DECADES AFTER PROPHET MUHAMMAD'S PASSING. This proves the quality of Islamic records instead of so called slamming Islam, this video made me laugh😂😂😂😂😂😂. So clever and so stoopid at the same time. Study their life's story instead of listening to so callled 'experts' that hating Islam. Seeing this video but not studying what is the prophet Muhammad s.a.w life's story by Islamic actual records is like asking to people that hated your dad about your dad's life story instead of asking your grandparents and your own mother about your dad's life story. This is so stoopid

[@davetomlinson9063]

If enough people tell the lie it becomes doctrine.

[@GODSLAYTHERREN]

No that's narcissistism

[@KevinFitzMauriceEverett]

“There is no multiculturalism in Islam because there is only accepting the unchanging 7th-century Islamic way or punishment, suffering, and death for not accepting it.” -Kevin Everett FitzMaurice

[@thequietone2510]

*8th Century now 😀

[@KevinFitzMauriceEverett]

@@thequietone2510 Yes, that is more accurate.

[@mikewalsh1402]

The sole purpose of Islam is to deny the true identity, and deity, of Jesus Christ. Those who deny who He really is will perish in their sins.

[@IslamicSchool-at-Al-HudaMosque]

​@@KevinFitzMauriceEverett Istighfar (Astaghfirullah) is the road to happiness and relief. Start chanting it whenever you are distressed, and it will, insha Allah, lift you out of your anxiety, place you in a tranquil position

[@IslamicSchool-at-Al-HudaMosque]

Istighfar (Astaghfirullah) is the road to happiness and relief. Start chanting it whenever you are distressed, and it will, insha Allah, lift you out of your anxiety, place you in a tranquil position ..

[@kelvinpragassa4871]

History dispels islam horribly

[@kelvinpragassa4871]

@Renegade Forever they can argue science and logic..because they just twist the understanding their way but not history

[@kelvinpragassa4871]

And in anycase that's the way they have conditioned themselves to think now...all so wrong

[@maxschon7709]

While christians are proud on the development christianity took in the early centuries Islam denies it's roots.

[@bidenisasnake9932]

ALL Religions were made by Men to control other Men. FACT!

[@IslamicSchool-at-Al-HudaMosque]

Istighfar (Astaghfirullah) is the road to happiness and relief. Start chanting it whenever you are distressed, and it will, insha Allah, lift you out of your anxiety, place you in a tranquil position

[@venenareligioest410]

Muhammad is entirely absent from the primary historical record. What is even more surprising is that the same can be said for his first four successors! The first of the Arab caliphs to definitively appear in traceable archaeological records is not one of the four ‘Rightly Guided’ ones, but a ruler named Muawiya. He was the first leader of the Umayyad Caliphate and acted as Caliph from (661-680 CE). The only problem, from a Muslim perspective at least, is that Muawiya is not presented as a Muslim ruler at all. An inscription on a dam near Ta'if (in modern-day Saudi Arabia) built around 678 CE simply calls him ‘The Commander of the Faithful’. No mention whatsoever is made to Mecca, to Muhammad or to the Qur’an. This is very surprising considering the subsequent insistence on the Islamic confession of faith on all official documents and inscriptions. It is clear that there are more questions than answers in this area. For a deeper dive into the murky history of early Islam, please see.. ‘The Mecca Mystery - Probing the Black Hole at the Heart of Muslim history’. By Peter Townsend.

[@sheikhboyardee556]

Why, do you mean that Mohammad maybe didn't exist? I can't wait to tell Alonzo Harris.

[@venenareligioest410]

@@sheikhboyardee556 I am stating researched FACTS, it’s up to you to FACT CHECK them from academic sources!

[@mrboesthius1682]

@@venenareligioest410 "seeing islam as others saw it" you should look at this resource .Muhammad or Mahmet(M-hmd) first appeared in the 630s.

[@venenareligioest410]

@@mrboesthius1682 Yes, around or just after his supposed death. Rock inscriptions indicate that popular devotion to Muhammad only began in the 8th century after a cult of personality was inaugurated through official declarations beginning with the Dome of the Rock in 692. It was only in the 730s onwards that there is evidence of popular devotion to Muhammad as a prophet and messenger. So, there is a 100 year silence prior to this that indicates that Islam did not exist as a distinct religion until long after the time of Muhammad, which casts doubt on whether he had any part in starting the religion! If somebody wanted to write a book about the city of Mecca based on actual pre-Islamic HISTORICAL EVIDENCE the book would be empty!! To put it as bluntly as possible: there is not a single shred of uncontested primary source evidence confirming the existence of an ancient city at the spot where the modern city of Mecca is located. This may seem, at first glance, like a very bold and startling claim, and one that is likely to be profoundly disruptive to the faith of devout Muslims. The facts, however, speak for themselves. Mecca is not mentioned in any correspondence, travel description or gazetteer (geographical dictionary) or any other type of historical source before the 8th century. In fact, the first references to Mecca all occur more than a century after the date commonly given for the death of Muhammad, with the oldest mention of the city dating from 741 CE (i.e. 109 years after Muhammad’s death) where it is referred to in a document known as the ‘Continuatio Byzantia Arabica’.

[@mrboesthius1682]

@@venenareligioest410 "Muhammad and his men took from Galilee to Bet. They set up camp in Emesa (Homs). Tens of thousands of Romans followed the Arabs from Damascus. Then the soldiers fled from Damascus. The following year, the Romans in 636 gathered at Gabitha, with an army of 50,000 men. And the Roman army was destroyed." source -When Christians First Met Muslims- the book is researching the syrian texts about mohammed. also you can read Robert G. Hoyland's book. i wrote about it above. i know that mecca is a lie but there must be a sacred city where mohammed lived. my english is bad sorry

[@EllieMaes-Grandad]

Pope Bennie gave a lecture on 12 September 2006 at the the University of Regensburg in Bavaria, where he'd once studied; he said ~ "Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached."

[@King_Flippy_Nips]

Have you read the bible? it not like god didnt command the extermination of entire cities including old people, women and children, christians also slaughtered other christians en masse during the crusades just because they were orthodox christians, also there is no evidence of jesus written anywhere until over 100 years after his death and there is no evidence at all that moses even existed. all 3 abrahamic religions were manufactured, abraham was a sumerian, born in the sumerian city of UR and a member of the sumerian religion which the bible borrows heavily from including almost word for word in places while in others the story is the same and just names were changed.

[@geoffreybudge3027]

But then the Catholic Church did the same and no argument can be made against it.

[@EllieMaes-Grandad]

@@geoffreybudge3027 If you look carefully at history . . . . it hasn't. If you're referring to crusades, that's a whole different ball of wax . . .

[@hgji7381]

@@geoffreybudge3027 as did the Protestant religions

[@cjmacq-vg8um]

islam was an attempt to unite arabic peoples under a single culture and religion. much like judaism united the canaanites and turned them into jews. but it no more united the arabs than christianity united europeans. it must be remembered islam didn't spread through persuasion but through the force of war. muslims conquered territory and forced conversion of the conquered peoples. they spread terror and destruction throughout the mediterarian like attila the hun and genghis khan. and, like christianity, islam "preached" tolerance but practiced domination and terrorized and brutalized non-believers. like christian "leaders," islamic "leaders" advocated elitist rule, slavery and misogyny. they were violent, cruel and corrupt. odd how the leaders of religions are the most likely to violate and ignore the basic tenets of that religion. did religion INVENT hypocrisy, double standards and situational ethics? i suppose not. but it certainly didn't end any of those things either.

[@markeden767]

Fantastic work Dr Al and Dr Jay

[@IslamicSchool-at-Al-HudaMosque]

Istighfar (Astaghfirullah) is the road to happiness and relief. Start chanting it whenever you are distressed, and it will, insha Allah, lift you out of your anxiety, place you in a tranquil position

[@quintontad5245]

@@IslamicSchool-at-Al-HudaMosque Islam has no salvation Allah is a crazy evil God that according to the quran demands human sacrifices to satiate his crazy psychopathic insecurities I tead the quran and reverted back to Christianity The quran is a truly evil book for irs repeated advocacy of human rights crimes Read the bible and you will find truth peace and happiness And guaranteed salvation with God that you will never find under islam Save your soul and rid yourself of islam

[@Kumar-zn3ll]

@@IslamicSchool-at-Al-HudaMosqueYou believe in a pagan god

[@HalsPals]

How receptive has the Islamic world been to your investigations? I would suspect not very. "The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him." Leo Tolstoy

[@kelvinpragassa4871]

Islam and history DO NOT MATCH.. I don't know how the muslim still waits in there

[@greyngreyer5]

Tolstoy was ironically a moron regarding Mohammed. He idolized him

[@democracyforall]

He cannot unite with black churches can he?? His people created racism and they created the black churches and the white churches and they created the segregations and people feels that and read that every day do they not?? That is written experience in the heart not on stones outside. Islam does not have such problem thus he is refusing to the deal with the issues that is killing Christianity in the west because it is against him and his peope and he wont and he will never deal with it. Thus his efforst are all in vain. Where to find ladies like Muslims ladies in the west??? Where to do find family type of religion like Islam in the west??? Where to find true love where you will never be rejected because of your color or race in the westren Christianity?? Thus he and his people needs to repent and tell the Muslims world they won but Jesus is who he is.... and they may listen if he simply face the facts rather than been trying to be clever pointing towards stones and woods.

[@charlo90952]

It's a holy war. Islam has a whole strategy to make converts and thus increase its power and influence. See videos by Bill Warner. Unless the West and Christianity recognises this and mounts a counterattack it will be overwhelming. Entire countries will be converted to Islam, as Indonesia and Turkey were. Sweden and Denmark will be next. The authenticity of the religion as Jay is arguing about is irrelevant. Nobody cares about that. Its all about power and control.

[@alonzoharris9049]

Jay Smith has no investigations. If he had. He would publish an academic work. He will never do that. Because he has no substance.

[@billshepherd5090]

I really wished Jay and Al would have told us what those inscriptions said. They might be saving that for the next episode.

[@aaabrams1889]

They are liars. If you check up the ISLAMIC ROCK INSCRIPTIONS< you will see their lies as there are tons from 644

[@aaabrams1889]

@@irishheritage893 STOP REPEATING THE LIES of these Evil missionaries - there is NO masculine or feminine form of Allah.

[@billshepherd5090]

@@irishheritage893 I missed that. Will have to watch again.

[@machonsote918]

One said "God Bless Homeless Vets". Another one said "What do we want?.....Time Travel.....When do we want it?......That's Irrelevant"

[@yodasmomisondrugs7959]

@@machonsote918 😆

[@damyankuzmic5605]

Al-lah is Single Father after divorce, He have three daughters: Al-Uza, Al-Lat, Al-Manat. 🙈🙉🙊

[@kelvinpragassa4871]

Where did you get that

[@reynoldthemagnificientthun463]

*THE SATANIC VERSES : SURAH AN-NAJM AND THE THREE DAUGHTERS OF ALLAH* When the Muhammad saw his people turning away from him, and was tormented by their distancing themselves from what he had brought to them from Allah, he longed in himself for something to come to him from Allah which would draw him close to them. With his love for his people and his eagerness for them, it would gladden him if some of the hard things he had found in dealing with them could be alleviated. He pondered this in himself, longed for it, and desired it. Then Allah sent down the revelation. 'By the star when it sets! Your companion has not erred nor gone astray, and does not speak from mere fancy…' [Q.53:1] When he reached Allah's words, "Have you seen Al-Lāt and Al-'Uzzā and Manāt, the third, the other?' [Q.53:19-20] Satan cast upon Muhammad's tongue two phrases: ''These are the high-flying cranes; verily their intercession is to be hoped for.'' Muhammad uttered them and went on to complete the surah. When he prostrated himself at the end of the surah, the whole company prostrated themselves with him. Al-Walid b. al-Mughirah raised some dust to his forehead and bowed over that, since he was a very old man and could not prostrate himself. They were satisfied with what Muhammad had uttered and said, “We recognize that it is God who gives life and death, who creates and who provides sustenance, but if these gods of ours intercede for us with him, and if you give them a share, we are with you.” The verses which follow serve as the sequence to surah 53:19-20 53:21 Yours the male sex, and for Him, the female. 53:22 Behold, such would be indeed a division most unfair. The question which any inquistic mind will ask is: How many verses in the Quran were actually revealed to Muhammad from Satan and not Gabriel??? This Episode called the "Satanic Verses" is an Authentic account where Muhammad allowed three Associates of Pagan Goddesses with Allah. Muhammad KAFARA and Sinned because he associated pagan Goddesses with Allah. Deuteronomy 18:18-20 18 I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him. 19 I myself will call to account anyone who does not listen to my words that the prophet speaks in my name. 20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.” In this episode of the "satanic verses" Muhammad admitted uttering words which does not come from God and invoking the names of false god, Al Lat; Al Uzza and Al Manat. Here, Muhammad fulfilled the criteria as a false prophet and must be put to death as per Deuteronomy 18:20 - No salvation for such false prophet by imputing Satan's words as God's and invoking the names of false god. Muslim apologists from time to time deliberately ommit this Deuteronomy 18 - 20 passage to deceive their audience.

[@normalisoverrated]

@@kelvinpragassa4871 Don't you know, this is what moonhammadad SAID & he bowed down & PRAYED to their statues. More so, he had all the other people with him to do the same! This went on for about 8yrs or so until he later denied them saying Satan told him to do it... lol.

[@omarlittle-hales8237]

Salam, Shlomo, Shalom, Peace. All Psychopathic World Leaders, Mostly Have BP, DID & NPD. NPD Have A Grandeur Self Image, They Reject All Forms Of Constructive Criticism, Even If It Were To Be The Truth, They Will Always Reject It. Examples: Asad, Bibi Netanyahu, Boris Johnson, Colonel Gadaffi, DR Jay [Shoemaker], ISIS, Iranian Theological Regime, Sadam Hussain, Putin, Taliban, Trump & Zionism.

[@williamgarayua5878]

Dear ​@@normalisoverrated -"Satanic Verses aint my fault, blame the Best of All Deceivers and his shahadistic companion!" 👋🤥👺👍

[@WideCuriosity]

If your religion guides you to live a good life, of love and service, keep it, as it is a good influence on you. If it instead causes you to oppose your brothers & sisters and cause mayhem and violence, reconsider your beliefs as you are being guided down the wrong path. That aside, every narrative has it's flaws. Debating them can be interesting, but it doesn't affect the value of the belief itself. Go with your particular god in peace, tolerance, and understanding.

[@jaidee9570]

There is no good life in the name of religion, or for a god, that can't be lived without the influence of the religion or the god. There are good people and there are bad people, bad people can do good things and good people can do bad things. Religious people can do good things, but they can also do bad things, but they cal also be led to believe the bad things they do are good because they are done for the glory of their god. I would also suggest if the only reason you do good things, or at least don't do bad things, is your fear of a divine judgement, you aren't a good person, you're a bad person whose cowardice is more dominant than your inclination to be bad. People don't need a god to do good things, Buddhists don't believe in a god, they believe the teachings of a man who said to make yourself a better human being you should do good things, that actions have consequences. Yes they have an award concept for those who become enlightened but no heaven, no hell, and they don't do bad things in the same of the Buddha, they do bad things because people sometimes do bad things.

[@jamesleonard7439]

​@@jaidee9570Truth

[@petenrita]

Fascinating. I would imagine archaeology is very dangerous for the status quo.

[@lindagonzalez5059]

Yes. Ever heard of Hawass?He guards a museum but goes into pyramids and claim to be archeolog and found its all built by arabs.

[@ChibiNyan]

Archaeology is islamophobic

[@johnschuh8616]

One thing is sure: no one is going to archeology in Mecca because the site has been destroyed by the huge amount of construction.

[@mossig]

Test the stone Kaba. t's been covered from the Sun and cosmic rays for years.

[@plopdoo339]

​@@mossig the stone of Kaaba is simply a meteorite...'stone from heaven'.

[@mossig]

@@plopdoo339 I know that but just because it has been covered up you can measure radioactive decay and find out when it was covered up. This you can do with a stone that has been exposed recently in an archeological dig to date when it was buried.

[@plopdoo339]

@@mossig lool yeah I know that but you have to understand this meteorite that came from the sky, is believed to be a special rock given to Ismael to build the first mosque(apparently). It was given to him by Jibreel(Gabri El). Religious people believe the word 'heaven' is some magical invisible place where invisible beings with magical powers exist. So a rock from heaven is a magical rock no one is allowed to touch because it came from the angels from heaven.😂😂😂😂 In reality, these angels are either aliens or humans with more advanced technology than us. The heavens, has always been the term used by ancients for space, sky, stars...etc. They will never allow anyone to radiocarbon date it because it will debunk every religious belief in existence.

[@karenthompson1337]

If the Saudi's had found anything in their digging in Mecca they would have showed it to the world, but there's nothing to find!

[@mattsangma4728]

May God bless you brothers in Christ. Christian scholars are the best in the world.

[@t.c.2776]

why would you trust Christian scholars about anything... they can't even agree on what the Bible says... and it may appear that at least some of the Bible was based on Sumerian and Babylonian writings... what these gentlemen are suggesting is the Islam was "Fabricated" purely for power and control of people... and what do ALL the religions of the world have in common... POWER AND CONTROL OF PEOPLE... doesn't matter what continent, country, tribe, society, culture... they all have used various religions to subjugate their people.

[@andrewmckee8874]

nonsense, their were many famous and intelligent scholars in Islam, the numbers used by most western lanuages are based on araibic numerals, Fibonacci is generally credited with their major adoption in europe, greek, Roman, Chinese, long before Christianity even existed, It took Christianity many years to spread across the world, why would Islam be any different, probably started with the wise words of a preacher and grew over time but the beginnings were exagerated to give it more credibility later in history, much like christianity, much like the modern interpretation on the 10 commandments or the bible as we know it and the Koran that proceeds it , the priority of both corrupted to fit the narritive of man

[@andrefouche9682]

@@andrewmckee8874 He didn't deny that there were good Islamic scholars, he just praised Christian scholars which he feels are the best in the world, I think if we list the Christian scholars of the past two thousand years he would have great cause for his optimism, especially if you take into consideration how the Christian worldview lead to the huge expansion of academia in Europe. Your anti-Christian bias clouds your thinking.

[@andrewmckee8874]

@@andrefouche9682 given that the world didn't become 'mostly' Christian. Till the Spanish went to south America and the British empire sent missionaries to it colonies and the Holy Roman empire was still trying to convince people to convert around 1000AD just as Islam was accelerating across the world I think it would be safe to say that wrapping all great advances to the period of Christianity would be a little presumptuous especially as many advances in the last 200 years has become much more mixed

[@andrefouche9682]

@@andrewmckee8874 You are beating a strawman.

[@mannyhabib2867]

I wonder if Muslim scholars know of these findings? they'd have to, but then this type of study is Western, you wont find someone from Al-Azhar university doing these kinds of studies.

[@lshed28]

Muslim scholars aren't going to show this. They are the gatekeepers and don't want it exposed because they will lose their power.

[@raffam3559]

I wonder why…

[@alonzoharris9049]

Which findings?

[@mannyhabib2867]

@@alonzoharris9049 Jazakallah Alonzo, you have been asleep all this while.

[@aaabrams1889]

@@lshed28 JAY AND HIS CLOWN ARE LIARS If you check up the ISLAMIC ROCK INSCRIPTIONS< you will see their lies as there are tons from 642 this was found in Turkey. 643-4 CE - from Muthallath, near Yanbu’, Saudi Arabia and written in Hijazi script as the early Qurans. 644 CE - written by Zuhayr "at the time of ʿUmar's death" in Hijazi script and found near al-Hijr, Saudi Arabia. Translation; In the name of Allah I, Zuhayr, wrote [this] at the time ʿUmar died in the year four and twenty (i.e., 24 AH). MANY MORE - DO YOUR RESEARCH and do not believe these LIARS.

[@Yuyup7334]

I'm just wandering how would Shabir Ali, Adnan Rashid, Yasir Qadhi and other islamic sophisticated schollars cope with this development Jay, AI and other Christians scholars are showing.

[@IslamicSchool-at-Al-HudaMosque]

Istighfar (Astaghfirullah) is the road to happiness and relief. Start chanting it whenever you are distressed, and it will, insha Allah, lift you out of your anxiety, place you in a tranquil position

[@nasiaking]

Jay has been debunked by them many times.

[@Yuyup7334]

@@nasiaking When did they debunk Jay? None of them ever been able to answer Jay's challange of showing evidence for SIN from mid 7th century Arabia, how could you have said that they have debunked Jay many times? Your answer is a desperate cry of being defeated.

[@GODSLAYTHERREN]

​@@Yuyup7334Jesus Christ is the only way every Muslim sees Jesus before death, but never see their made up religion people. God bless knowing the truth.

[@mikestrohm3271]

@@GODSLAYTHERREN Rubbish, how do you know this, have you got any evidence? Do you have any evidence that god exists? No you don't because it is all a myth.

[@brucetucker4847]

very interesting. How are these inscriptions dated? Did the authors put dates on them, or refer to something like the regnal year of a historically known ruler?

[@toomanymarys7355]

Haven't watched yet. But this particular academic essay skipped all the ones that didn't have a date. The dates are hijri dates. :)

[@jamesleonard7439]

Found this extremely interesting, thanks.

[@ochr5149]

maybe I've missed it, but if I'm correct you didn't have had a set of numismatist on. Are they all unwilling to just word what they see on the coins they have?

[@graysonbr]

Bismillah like in the Bohemian Rhapsody

[@ophiuchus1116]

Beelzebub has a devil on the side for him you know

[@tommynoblethecouncilofheav4657]

@@ophiuchus1116 nothing really matters to me

[@LucaBrasi7548]

Mohamed was just a poor boy..sparing himself from his monstrosity..bimillah

[@samuelflores1419]

​@@ophiuchus1116😂

[@samuelflores1419]

​@@tommynoblethecouncilofheav4657😂

[@nathanwhite7765]

Please call them the wrongful guided callifs

[@I9s7lam5is-S3tu1pid]

Wrongly Guided Caliphs

[@tonyreb3]

it is always interesting to read / watch something on religion which explores its origins and development. As interesting are the comments, some of which are very thought provoking and some which make me laugh.

[@andriesquast2028]

How would you explain the world wide stories where there seems to be contact with other intelligent, advanced beings than humans? Is everybody who has any of those stories crazy, primitive and deluded, or is your character such that you are willing to investigate?

[@mormacfey]

@@andriesquast2028 That would all depend when those stories started. Ancient stories far apart from contact with each other, sounds interesting. But in modernity when they're all being influenced by the same stories made by authors for money? Not so much. I've been looking into this for decades and it just seems as a cult of misinformation at best, with known origins.

[@IslamicOrigins]

A lot of people viewed this video, which is brilliant. Let Jay know how you heard of the video, whether it got a big share or shout-out, this can help him a lot. TY.

[@m.suhaidi4966]

Hahahahaha, of course there's not any records or stone inscriptions for several decades because most of the prophet's and The Four Rightly Guided Caliph has ORAL RECORDS. EVERYTHING ON THE STONE INSCRIPTIONS ARE MEMORIZED BY HEART BY MOST MUSLIMS FOR DECADES AFTER PROPHET MUHAMMAD'S PASSING. This proves the quality of Islamic records instead of so called slamming Islam, this video made me laugh😂😂😂😂😂😂. So clever and so stoopid at the same time. Study their life's story instead of listening to so callled 'experts' that hating Islam. Seeing this video but not studying what is the prophet Muhammad s.a.w life's story by Islamic actual records is like asking to people that hated your dad about your dad's life story instead of asking your grandparents and your own mother about your dad's life story. This is so stoopid

[@timothymitchell8310]

Awesome insight to historical facts that do not confirm Mohamed or that religion! Where can I buy a coin like these you speak of.

[@brucetucker4847]

I'm sure there are any number of frauds and hucksters willing to sell you one.

[@jonhall2274]

^^ This! But considering they're all(abrahamic "religions") paedophilia riddled, skydaddy CULTS, scamming & conning their indoctrinated cult members is pretty much the guideline and operations for their cults, so this isn't really that shocking or surprising!🤷😂🙃

[@theindian2226]

Insightful discussion

[@IslamicSchool-at-Al-HudaMosque]

Istighfar (Astaghfirullah) is the road to happiness and relief. Start chanting it whenever you are distressed, and it will, insha Allah, lift you out of your anxiety, place you in a tranquil position ...

[@GMLAUS]

Have recently found this channel and has really opened my eyes. I do have a question though, why was Islam so embraced in the Turkic people leading to the Seljuk dynasty?

[@semiot8305]

I would love to watch an episode about the cult of stones (especially meteorites, like the black rock of Emesa) in the Middle East. Interestingly, Wikipedia doesn't mention the Islamic black stone as the most famous baetyl.

[@valeriemorton5517]

As I understood it, it appears that Petra is probably the location to which Muhammad is referring when he refers to the "secret meeting place" which is now interpreted as Mecca. Later when the there was army approaching Petra during the unrest during the dynastic wars, the leader of the faction holding the city ordered the central shrine (the original Ka'ab) dismantled and relocated to the current location of Mecca with the black stone and some of the other "relics" of the religion as a way of retaining control.

[@King_Flippy_Nips]

Petra was not secret back then, it was an occupied city and an extremely important stopping point in several different trade routes. Also Mecca existed long before islam, the temple and holy shrine were already there and it was the holy site of the muslim people before they adopted islam and became muslims, but back then it was surrounded by statues of hundreds of different deities because the muslims worshipped a religion very closely related to hinduism before they adopted islam which is why mecca is still considered a holy site for hindus and is a popular hindu pilgrimage spot, during the holy days when muslims flock to mecca and walk around the temple praying you will always notice hindus mixed in among them.

[@user-butterfly384]

Petra is where Esau was in Mt Seir. So it is written.

[@jamig.7254]

Why is this just now coming to light? When we're these coins found? Where were they found? If this is true, how did Saudi Arabia become the home of Islam? This needs to be in full documentary form, not in 8 minute clips.

[@robdave1974]

Wow, great to see and hear commonsense discussion about religious artefacts and time frames. No Confirmation Bias at all.

[@jaidee9570]

Not convinced your correct about no confirmation bias. They are or are funded by christian organizations, they want to disprove islam, I'm not suggesting they're wrong, but they have their reasons for doing it.

[@Ghredle]

What about the 7 century inscriptions in the south? What do they depict and tell?

[@xavierbesnard9201]

A huge step !

[@christiandelorde5887]

Jesus Christ, the truth, the way and the life.

[@hymns-hymns]

Amen brother

[@SaintRamona]

Amen brother 🙏✝️🤍

[@IslamicSchool-at-Al-HudaMosque]

Istighfar (Astaghfirullah) is the road to happiness and relief. Start chanting it whenever you are distressed, and it will, insha Allah, lift you out of your anxiety, place you in a tranquil position

[@kesavanduraiswamy1492]

தனி சர்ச் தனி கல்லறை தனி இயேசு ?

[@galaxymetta5974]

I left Christianity as the bible is unreliable as it contains too many unfufilled prophecies, self contradictions and atrocities. Here's a sample. 1) End time Jesus said some of those standing with him shall not !see death till they see the son of man coming in his kingdom Matt 16:28 Jesus said this generation shall not pass away till all be fulfilled. Heaven and earth shall pass away but my words shall not pass away Luke 21:32-33 2) Temptation God does not tempt man James 1:13 God did tempt Abraham Gen 22:1 3) Earth Earth abides forever Eccl 1:4 Elements shall melt, earth and the works shall be burned up 2 Peter 3:10 4) power of god With god all things are possible Matt 19:26 Lord was with Judah, drove out inhabitants of the mountain but not inhabitants of the Valley because they had chariots of iron Judges 1:19 5) Sword Put aside your sword, for all who take sword shall perish with the sword Matt26:52 He that has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one Luke 22:36 6) crucifixion They crucified him in the 3rd hour Mark 15:25 About the 6th hour, they crucified him John 19: 14-16 7) Jesus Jesus never answered Pilate and Pilate marvelled greatly Matt 27:13-14 Jesus answered Pilate John 18:33-34 8) Sins Everyone bear own sins. Sins not passed to another Deut 24:16 Sins are passed down to the 4th generations Exodus 20:5 All sin thru one man Romans 5:12 Children do not bear parent's sins Ezekial 18:20 Slaughter the children for their father's sins Isaiah 14:21:22 9) god God does not change Malachi 3:6 God does not lie and repent Numbers 23:19 The lord repented of the evil he thought of doing to his people Exodus 32:14 The lord put a lying spirit in the mouth of some prophets 1 kings 22:23 and god allows people to be deluded Thessul 2:11-12 though lying lips are a abomination to the lord Prov 12:22 New covenants given because first eternal covenants given to Jews were faulty Hebrews 8:7 10) Grace Man is saved through grace, not works Ephesians 2:8-9 By works a man is justified, not by faith alone James 2:24 11) Parents Honor thy parents Exodus 20:12 Death for disobeying parents Romans 1:29-32 Whoever does not hate father, mother cannot be my disciple Luke 14:26, Matt 10:34 12) Freewill Freewill in Christianity is a myth as shown in Romans 9:9-24 where things are predistined and mankind could be punished even for things out of their control. The list does not end here and anyone of the above is sufficient to prove the bible is unreliable. Since we cannot trust the bible on things we can see, all the more reasons we cannot trust the bible on what it says about things we cannot see.

[@pazitor]

The writings quoted on the Dome of the Rock are not the same as the same verses in the Koran, yet it is claimed no changes ever took place.

[@DavePocklington]

Have you seen the studies that show that all the first Mosques point to Petra as the real Mecca. Even the descriptions in the Muslim holy books, point to somewhere other than present day Mecca, where no archaeology before the tenth century can be found.

[@orze_code9779]

From what I recall, according to the archeologists, the first qibla (direction of the prayers) was Jerusalem (al-Quds) not Petra.

[@lindagonzalez5059]

The builders was Jews during the walk

[@Niles-Guy]

Another hole 🕳️ in the narrative. You got this Yusef Qadhi & Momo Hijab

[@quasarsaad12344]

You mean Yasir Qadhi and Mohammed Hijab..?

[@Polynuttery]

Are there any inscriptions of anything at all at Mecca or Medina?

[@gavinjames1145]

Yes. Around Mecca there are Sabean inscriptions in the Ge'ez script - not Arabic! Closer to Ta'if there are _later_ Arabic inscriptions.

[@dundadunda552]

Just a couple about a local pdf file terrorising the local kids

[@alonzoharris9049]

@@gavinjames1145 Don’t make things up. There are many inscriptions in and around Mecca. Even the used scholar of Jay Smith in this video confirms this in his work. Why do you try to spread misinformation?

[@gavinjames1145]

@@alonzoharris9049 In the immediate vicinity of Mecca there are numerous, very large rock inscriptions in Ge'ez script. To my knowledge, there are no early (pre-8th Century) Arabic inscriptions around Mecca. They are found near Ta'if and elsewhere. No "Mo woz ere!" inscriptions at all!

[@alonzoharris9049]

@@gavinjames1145 Your knowledge is limited. There are many inscriptions found in Mecca. Mohammed athar has found and published many inscriptions. The scholar Juan Cole als cites these. We don’t find many geez inscriptions. The vast majority of inscriptions are in the Arabic script.

[@sasa_sasa_sasa230]

@Pfander Did you use examinations of dr Ahmad al Jalal ??? He have interesting discoveries.

[@pauljoseph562]

Beautiful braines .. god bless u guys !!! 😊

[@everythingelse3086]

There's no E in brains unless you're making them more beautiful.

[@GizmoFromPizmo]

It is COMMON in all religious circles to impose ones own beliefs on the truth at hand. We have Flat Earthers to this day. Just about every denomination engages in eisegesis to some extent. That doesn't justify it. In fact, that's the noise that the devil has used from the beginning to obscure the truth. Jesus talked about this in His teachings. Whether it was the wide gate and the broad way or the doctrine of the sheep hearing their shepherd's voice, it's all aimed at this desire in man to focus on the noise to the exclusion of the signal (using a "signal to noise" analogy). Actually, the signal is used to sell the noise. Indeed, there is none righteous. No, not one. This is why we work so hard to prevent ourselves from permitting this serpent into our personal Gardens. We all, like sheep, have gone astray and it takes a mental discipline to recognize it when we ourselves begin to engage in this strong delusion. There is signal and there is noise. What noise does my denomination focus on to take my eye off the signal of God's word? Every denomination does this. It's up to me to recognize it and force myself to hear the voice of God over the noise of my denomination. To day, if you want to hear His voice, harden not your heart - as in the provocation.

[@LordBlk]

Damn more evidence. I haven't checked up on this in awhile...bam!

[@AtomicExtremophile]

Very interesting. I've long thought that there was an ulterior motive for the insistence that Allah and Muhammad - and their acts - can't be queried or questioned. Other religions allow people to question them - although it's taken time. If there's nothing to hide, why wouldn't a religion allow inquisition? Especially as it's supposed to be the incorruptible word of God!

[@brenton2561]

Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition! (Edit, it's a Monty Python thing)

[@ahmad_alhallak]

If you can question god, then he is not all powerfull or truly The God creator at all. For Mohammed, there are many cases where he was questioned (both in Quran and in Hadith), both by humans and by god, where his actions are sometimes rebuked as impudent by god (the tale of the blind man in Quran), or when his good intentioned actions being wrong, such as when Omar had the opinion that it's wrong of Mohammed to do the Islamic funeral prayer on the non Muslim father of a Muslim which Mohammed did when the case first came up, for which god (in the Quran) rebuked Mohammed and approved of Omar's opinion. No human (in mainstream islam) is perfect, only god is truly perfect. Even the prophets and messengers are not, only the messages they receive from god and proselytize is (the Quran, the Bible, the Torah). Being inquisitive and skeptical is always mentioned in a good light in the Quran, as all the prophets were described as skeptical, with Moses even asking to see god's face to further satisfy his skepticism. On the other hand, blindly following the faith of your parents is mentioned numerous times with derision in the Quran and as an act of ignorance, while god also demands - numerous times - that humans think and wonder about the world and how it came to be for themselves. Don't form your opinions from KZbinrs and people with agendas on the internet (including me), read the source material itself, the Quran is easily available with translations in many languages and its not that big or daunting of book for you not to casually browse it, or at least double check what I claimed.

[@brenton2561]

@@ahmad_alhallak but the fact remains, an omnipotent god has the means to personally remove any question of doubt from any individual by means of personally answering questions and conversing with every single person and explaining his exact expectations, thus removing all doubt. Why such a being refuses to do this is, but rather allows flawed mortal men to interpret instructions from thousands of years ago will never make sense to me.

[@ahmad_alhallak]

@@brenton2561 yeah surly, but why would he, or why wouldn't he? There is no use thinking of such things, to go into the intent of god is a folly, it's infinitely more absurd than even an ant making intelligent thought regarding the reasoning of humans doing anything, for at least both ants and humans share a plane of existence and other similarities no matter how insignificant, but for god, how do we -even remotely- compare with god? Where is the context that we would use to answer such questions? For god - if you believe in an omnipotent all powerfull creator of everything god as I do- has created being itself, created the same logic that we might use for such a task, God would be the reason for reasoning itself, for why 1+1 would equal 2. So to probe around and wonder about the intentions of god would only result in useless baseless guessing.

[@ahmad_alhallak]

@@brenton2561 Of course most religions and religious philosophers have come up with answers for this question (Islam included), but the answers would need you to believe in those religions in the first place, and they would only answer the surface question, and not the questions that would result from such answers. For example, in Islam god says that he could make all humans believers, but that this world is a test for humans and what they will do with their "Gift", the gift being free will, the same free will that makes them imperfect and makes them sin, which despite the imperfections it causes, still elevates humankind above the "Perfect" and sinless angels, as the perfection of the angels is a matter of their undefiable nature, while for humankind their good deeds and bad ones are theirs to be judged. That might have satisfied the original question, but then new questions will follow immediately, why did god create humankind (or the angels for that matter, or anything)? God is all powerfull, omnipotent and has no needs, so why create anything, Muslims would say that god created humankind to do good and to worship god, but this doesn't really answer the question, it only answers it as to what god wanted us to do with our creation, not why God created us from God's "perspective". After this it gets murky (for all religions not just Islam) some will refuse to answer the question all together, some with esoteric beliefs will give an equally esoteric answer. But in the end there is no answer, for an answer cannot exist (at least not one not based on beliefs). As we lack any means to answer such a question logically. If it can be compared to anything then maybe to Mario becoming self aware and then him making guesses as to why he was created. No matter the answer he will reach, it is impossible for it to be true as it will be rooted in his 2d logic where hitting boxes gives you coins.

[@cerberus2881]

Education is the end of superstitions.

[@RayyanMusa]

I do not understand why people waste their time with Jay Smith! The reason why, the Arabs did not have a culture of writing! The first Arabic book to be compiled was the Quran. They had an oral tradition of storytelling. That is why the Arabs were amazed by the Quran! Islamic teaching began to be written down by the none arab people who converted to Islam or were born into Muslim families much later about 70 years. When paper also became available when the Muslim empire came in contact with the Tang Dynasty from China. Also, most people in Arabia could not read or write, it was very common. Literacy only increases after the advent of Islam in Arabia. Muhammad (SAW) is the only major religious figure in history where burial is known. (Medina) Everyone should google "Can you carbon date stones or rock" 😂

[@christianfrommuslim]

We do not have the burial of Essa/Jesus Christ because he is the only religious leader who rose from the dead. All the prophets before Jesus had blood sacrifice for sin. He was the prophesied final sacrifice. Jesus said that merely claiming to be a prophet was not enough (Injeel John 5). Then he gave his proofs: 1. The testimony of Yahia, a living prophet said that he was the Lamb of God (aka John the Baptist) 2. His fabulous miracles 3. The many, strong prophecies about him. For Christians to follow another prophet, they much have stronger proof than this. No other prophet ever has.

[@RayyanMusa]

@@christianfrommuslim By their very nature you cannot take these are empirical proofs, as none of the disciples were with Jesus at the time of his crucifixion. Your claim for blood sacrifice for sin is not true, Adam was just forgiven. We Muslims do not believe in the original sin. Jonah in the Whale was rescued and also his people without a blood sacrifice. Chapter (5) sūrat l-māidah (The Table spread with Food) Verse (5:14) And from those who say, "We are Christians" We took their covenant, but they forgot a portion of that of which they were reminded. So We caused among them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. And Allah is going to inform them about what they used to do. O People of the Scripture, there has come to you Our Messenger making clear to you much of what you used to conceal of the Scripture and overlooking much. There has come to you from Allah a light and a clear Book. (I.e Quran) You do not have the original gospel that Jesus received. Jesus was a Jewish man from Galilee, he believed in the Jewish law and kept the Jewish Law. You say you follow Jesus but you follow Paul. He was never a companion of Jesus, he never meet Jesus. You follow the teachings of Paul and not Jesus. Christians do not even agree on what books should be in the Bible. The old testament is the Book of Jewish people, which was taken to give legitimacy to early Christians.

[@brucetucker4847]

@@RayyanMusa Paul absolutely met Jesus - the resurrected Jesus. The earliest Christians didn't "take" anything from the Jewish people, they _were_ Jews, so the Jewish scriptures were their scriptures.

[@RayyanMusa]

@@brucetucker4847 Are you sure? Isn't the bible Old Testament and the New Testament? The New Testament is the 4 gospels, Mark, Luke, Matthew, and John. While the Old Testament was the scriptures of the Jews? Also, Jesus did not see himself as a Christain otherwise he would have never "turned over the table in the Temple". When he spoke out against the Pharisees. The Pharisees claimed Mosaic authority for their interpretation of Jewish religious law.

[@samuelkobby5723]

ISLAM dies without lies😅 Even with lies Islam dies🤔. Please come to Lord Jesus Christ, He IS still alive ✝️.. Muhammad is DEAD AND IN HELL.

[@holandreas]

Really interesting. This means that the expansion of the Caliphate might have been seen as the expansion of a Christian state at first. Are there European sources that talk about what the ascendant Caliphate was prior to 730?

[@venenareligioest410]

“Do not consider it proof just because it is written in books, for a liar who will deceive with his tongue will not hesitate to do the same with his pen.” Maimonides

[@calebschoonraad6810]

Form theories based on Fact, instead of disregarding Fact to suit your theories. Follow the truth, wherever it may lead you. Thank you for your video and dedication!

[@brucetucker4847]

That's not what these guys are doing, though. They clearly have an agenda and go hunting for facts that tend to support it.

[@calebschoonraad6810]

@@brucetucker4847 The difference is they found evidence! They form their theories based on the evidence that they find. This is what scientific method means. We should all be doing this.

[@brucetucker4847]

@@calebschoonraad6810 That's really not scientific method at all, and history is only part science anyway. They went looking for something that supported their preconceived notions, and they found something. Islamic apologists do the same thing, and I'm sure plenty of them will tell you all about it in these comments. But there's no genuine objectivity in any of it. You only think these guys are objective because you want to believe Islam is false just as much as Muslims want to believe it's true. The key words being WANT TO BELIEVE.

[@calebschoonraad6810]

@@brucetucker4847 it's true that most people (and their institutions) do this. Its also true to say that most people have no clue as to what religion is about. Most don't even understand what the word Religion actually means... Including the words: man, woman, human, person... However, regardless of what people think, when they adjust their preconceptions to accept the facts (physical evidence) then this is totally different. I wish more people will grow beyond their indoctrination and dogma and experience the truth through conscious observation.

[@brucetucker4847]

@@calebschoonraad6810 I do too. The difference is that I understand that many of today's devout atheists are just as prone to indoctrination and dogma.

[@EeustaceE]

Rock never die 🤘🤟

[@amirthamalex1021]

Please highlight the total size of inscriptions used in this study. Was there any inscription at all at mecca area?

[@DMKRP]

I am getting cynical in my old age, and primarily, the reason for it, is listening to deceitful people who have an agenda and willing to bear false witness to either convert or spite others that disagree with. Now, I don't know much about Islam, basic stuff, but what I do know is there are just as many apologists for Islam who will disagree with these people and will have their evidence. There's also a lot of atheists and even Christian scholars who either stste that Jesus didn't exist, or went off to the east instead of being crucified, or the Bible is problematic in translation, etc. That's the problem with starting your study with a cause, bias, premise, etc, everything that follows is confirmation bias. My general rule in Christian life is even if you believe that you are saved, act as if you are not. Looking at other religions, trying to save them when there is so much wrong in the Christian faith, is a waste of energy and has more to do with judgement, arrogance, self-conceit/deceit. Live every day like you have to impress on God that you are a good soul, worthy of being saved. Maybe then, others might think you have credibility, authority and are a reason to convert to Christianity. This isn't it.

[@jonhall2274]

There is no skydaddy, never has been, never will, in reality, you've simply been indoctrinated into a paedophilia riddled skydaddy CULT!🤷😊

[@TheLionFarm]

Muhammad sound like a fairy tail that the caliphate was writing about

[@aaabrams1889]

Do you like the fairy tale stories of Jay

[@TheLionFarm]

@@aaabrams1889 "The historicity of Jesus as [said] heretic teacher of Jewish law is established beyond doubt by the testimony of his disciple Jacob of Kephar Sekhanjah-a man unknown to Christian sources transmitted through the rabbis 'Elifezer b. Hyrkanos and 'Aqiba (A.D. IIO), both of the latter witnesses being decidedly hostile to Christianity. The execution of one 'Christus' by the Roman governor Pilate under Tiberius, as a criminal and founder of a band of conspirators hostile to the whole human race, is established thanks to the testimony of Tacitus." ~The Messiah Jesus and John the Baptist according to Flavius Josephus' recently rediscovered 'Capture of Jerusalem' and other Jewish and Christian sources by Robert Eisler; Alexander Haggerty Krappe; Flavius.Josephus Publication date 1931 "Away with the atheists" ~Polycarp

[@TheLionFarm]

"Muhammad was merely following in the footsteps of Basilides, the Valentinians, the Manicheans and other heretics of early times. (Tisdall, The Religion of the Crescent, p. 168)." Quran calls Jesus Messiah because Islam is neo gnosticism

[@aaabrams1889]

@@TheLionFarm When you copy and paste - do not give half the information as in the case of rabbis 'Elifezer b. Hyrkanos and 'Aqiba (A.D. IIO), ...IT CONTINUES... The execution of one ‘Christus’ by the Roman governor Pilate under Tiberius, as a criminal and founder of a band of conspirators hostile to the whole human race, is established thanks to the testimony of Tacitus. The nature of the Roman charges against Jesus is clear, first from Pilate’s inscription on the cross, second from the attacks of Celsus and Sossianus Hierocles. Jesus was considered a rebel king proclaimed by the Jews-that is, legally, a robber chief, a leader of bandits armed against the safety of the Roman empire. His ascendency over his following was attributed to the performing of sham miracles by magical arts, as well as to a sophistic, i.e. demagogical, power of oratory. The remains of anti-Christian literature prove that the opponents of Christianity described him as a fomenter of rebellion, a sorcerer, a demagogue, a rebel and a robber chief.” Robert Eisler, The Messiah Jesus and John the Baptist,p.20 MOHAMMAD (saw) FOLLOWED the teachings of all the Pervious Prophets as God revealed it to him and he COMPLETED the religion that started with creation and from all the Prophets.

[@mio.giardino]

Thank you for opening your hearts to truth!

[@frensjose315]

How do you explain thomas the Presbyter and jacobi

[@philiplindley7384]

Religions have never needed facts, just believers.

[@MrRegularAmerican]

It seems like there are academics everywhere lining up to dispute the origins of every religion. I guess they get gold stars from their peers and invitations to fancy dinner parties.

[@lolliesbox4235]

Why don't you publish papers or books to set out your claims and findings (with proper scholarly citations etc)? Videos are great but lack the rigours required to be convincing.

[@kirkmorrison6131]

I had to take Islamic History class back in the 1970s. It was pushing conversion at George Mason University. I found constant contradictions in the history when we finally got to it

[@defenderoftruth3212]

It looks like Jay Smith and Abdul Fadi become irritatingly jealous when they could read something beautiful are written about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). What they want is that all writers would always go by their line of thinking of always finding faults against Prophet Muhammad (pbuh), and that what they should write will always be about his bad sides. If only they have a supernatural power to squeeze the intelligence of Michael H. Hart and the likes of him, they would do so to make them write anything negative only about Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). What they lose sight of the fact is that they cannot suppress the intelligence of the writers and their independence to write. They cannot make them succumbed to their evil motives. -06-25-23

[@christianfrommuslim]

Why shouldn't we follow Mohammed? All the prophets before Jesus had blood sacrifice for sin. He was the prophesied final sacrifice. Jesus said that merely claiming to be a prophet was not enough (Injeel John 5). Then he gave his proofs: 1. The testimony of Yahia, a living prophet said that he was the Lamb of God (aka John the Baptist) 2. His fabulous miracles 3. The many, strong prophecies about him. For Christians to follow another prophet, they much have stronger proof than this. No other prophet ever has.

[@kaydee3407]

Birthday of dushara is decemebr 25. The mithraic religion is also related to the mithra twins of vedic and zend avesta.. The twinning of the invisible sun and visible sun .. The zhun god of balkh ( sun, shani..saturn ..) also resembles mithraic and saturn worship as the time keeper, book keeper...

[@hetrodoxly1203]

The first and only mention we have was 350 years after the death of Jesus, it looks as if they borrowed Jesuses Birthdate.

[@schmuckpuppet4842]

Why are you bringing up Mithraism? What are you trying to say?

[@fantasia55]

​@@hetrodoxly1203"Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus." ~ Tacitus, AD 64

[@hetrodoxly1203]

@@fantasia55 Yes.

[@aaabrams1889]

@mysotiras 018 SPAM THAT JAY IS A HABITUAL LIAR.

[@bobumar9247]

Awesome story letters.....

[@OneStepToday]

How do you know about the dating, so specific dating? You should explain that in details.

[@jamesupton4996]

You can look it up, for the details.

[@OneStepToday]

@@jamesupton4996 I mean they showed rocks inscription as their source but did talk about how their dating is done. Or the dating only is about the coins

[@jamesupton4996]

@@OneStepToday Presumably the form of the inscriptions- the style of lettering etc. But these details should be fairly easy to look up since apart from the scholar cited there is a lot of work going on in early Islamic history now, to the detriment of the standard Islamic narrative.

[@manolingz]

@Michael In some of the rock inscriptions ... "it says so on the inscription itself ( i.e. 78 years from the year of the Hijra = 622 AD)." But most of these inscriptions are still being catalogued.

[@Maldify]

You need to be aware that there is now an amateur cult following for these extreme conspiracy-style theories (eg that Islam began in Transjordan instead of Mecca) that most scholars have long since dismissed. As one of the answers pointed out, Patricia Crone, who started out as a radical skeptic and practically founded that school, moved away from many of her assertions and acknowledged that there is no serious doubt that Muhammad existed or that the Quran dates from his time. As to the evidence, we first have unanimous agreement from the 2-3 generations after Muhammad that he existed. Early Muslim history played out on a global stage starting immediately after Muhammad’s death. No one could just make him up and have everyone just play along. Muhammad is not unique in this way, though the evidence in his case is even stronger than for other figures. To say otherwise is to engage in Moon-landing-denial-level conspiracy theorizing. I think the Islamic historical tradition is good enough evidence as it is, but some have insisted that only non-Arabic evidence counts. The most famous example of these is the Syriac Fragment on the Arab Conquests dating from 636CE and recording the first battles between the “Romans” and the “Arabs of Muhammad”. This is around the date given by the Muslim historians for the same battles. If you want an accessible summary of the current state of the field, you can take a look at Sean Anthony’s recent book Muhammad and the Empires of Faith. Anthony was a student of Crone so his sceptical bona fides are beyond question. Another student of Crone, Robert Hoyland, collected all non-Arabic historical materials on early Islam in Seeing Islam as Others Saw It. history.stackexchange.com/questions/27644/what-historical-evidence-do-we-have-for-the-existence-of-mohammed

[@guygil]

Interesting, thanks. So you reject the coins and rock inscriptions presented on this channel?

[@Maldify]

@@guygil no, but rather, the coins and inscriptions are evidence that proves prophet Muhammad indeed existed. The host and the guest of the video are confused (or intentionally spreading misinformation) because they don't seem to understand the ancient arabs, or completely disregard their history. The arabs were a desert people, of whom most were illiterate, even prophet Muhammad himself was illeterate, writing was not a common thing among the bedouins of Arabia. Their preferred linguistic tool was poetry. You will find poetry predating prophet Muhammad, narrated orally, and documented much later. But you will find it challenging to find a written source of the said poetry that predates Muhammad. It was islam that caused the Arabs to be civilised, learn literacy, and become an educated society. As for coins, the arabs, as an undeveloped society, was using the currency of the Romans and Persians. No coins were minted during the time of prophet Muhammad, he never claimed a state, and did not claim to be a king or a ruler. But was the leader of his people nonetheless. There are several instances of coin minting recorded in islamic history, all of which happened after prophet Muhammad's death. Most famous of them would be during the ummayad reign, when Abdul Malik bin Marwan minted the Dinar to replace the roman and Persian coins around 77 A.H. Therefore, it is acceptable to the mind that there is no coins from the time of prophet that mentions him. The speakers in this video are extremely biased and disregarding the entire arabian history, based on the fact that arabs preferred method of transferring knowledge was oral transmission. Most of their history became documented much later. The first offcial recording of the prophets saying (hadith) was when Abdul Aziz bin Marwan was the governor of egypt, after year 64 A.H (after hijra). It seems as though the speakers are implying that unless it is a physical evidence from the time of prophet Muhammad, they will not accept that prophet Muhammad existed. This is rejection of facts, that are as clear as daylight. Infact, the evidences proving prophet Muhammad was a real man, is stronger than that for prophet Jesus.

[@bobfisher1909]

Where did the name Muhammad come from? The name comes from the passive participle of the Arabic verb ḥammada (حَمَّدَ), meaning 'to praise', which itself comes from the triconsonantal Semitic root Ḥ-M-D. So, we have how many Momoe's today, lol. Momo is a fictional character, made up from many identities starting at Abraham father. Just fable stories and the old agnostics religion / idol and deity worship hence Allah is covered with a burka as it's just another copy of the many black rock idols that go back pre-Islam like Cybele and Aphrodite they all were into black rocks, Islam just rolled everything into their story making it a bloody mess, nothing Islam copied is theirs only the character Momo they made over time, not one person in history prior to Islam was a person named Momo. Well, you can say they invented that name. This is why Islam was able to push their political power over other countries by adopting bits of every agnostic's religion, only 2 hurdles that stopped them was the Jews and Christians which why they went to war on them, they did try by adopting Jewish traditions and failed, still don't get why they don't eat pork as their ideology has nothing to do with God of the bible. Islam is nothing but a political empire system to keep people in bondage.

[@sarahwaters10sw]

Yes the pork thing, yet they sit on and in some cases eat the Camel meat which is listed as an unclean animal, yet the Dog which is a clean animal not on the unclean list is a sin. Muslims got everything mixed up and backwards. Jesus also said follow me and not a man on a pulpit!!!!!!

[@aaabrams1889]

@@sarahwaters10sw So according to you - PORK is not listed as unclean

[@sarahwaters10sw]

@@aaabrams1889 read that again Buddy, because I said nothing even close to that!!! Comprehension is everything, pay attention to what your reading! And Jesus said it's not what somebody puts in there mouths because it comes out the bum, but it's what actually comes out of it, if we are talking about food here now, I was just saying, because somebody else not me brought up the pork thing, have a good day, I'm not here to argue and peace be with you

[@aaabrams1889]

@@sarahwaters10sw The Real Jesus said that he did not come to destroy the Mosaic Law but to fulfil it (Mathew 5:17-20), so Pork is not kosher. The Anti-christ in your bible, LUCIFER who imitated the Real Jesus said what you said; '' it's not what somebody puts in there mouths because it comes out the bum...'' and many others. I'm not here to argue but want you to know that. peace be with you.

[@sarahwaters10sw]

@@aaabrams1889 I'm not a Jew Buddy, peace be with you, and I do not follow men on pulpits, do you understand what that even means? I'm a follower of Yashuah only, he came for us all, you people reject him and who he really is, have a nice day! Goodbye. And I see you don't mind using that Anti Christ bible when it suits your needs, and you need to look up what anti Christ really means, because I'm no denier of YAHSUAH or YAHWEH

[@hfyaer]

How do you date a rock inscription?

[@denisovan1955]

Which scientific method is used to attach a specific date to rocks? And to any inscription?

[@damyankuzmic5605]

BismiJesus

[@ekondigg6751]

More usually BismilMasih

[@andrewburbidge]

It was interesting to hear that a word or a name like, Allah, was used as an equivalent to, God, in different languages and that was in the north of Arabia where there was influence from the Roman Empire. The difficulty in showing that the origin of the religion was further south can be understood in comparison with other religions, Is there a religion with a clear origin in the life of a named person? How important is that to people who follow a relgion? Was the name, Moses, from a region that migratory people passed through, Moesia, the name becoming used as the name of a person later, far to the south? Was there a known royal personage called a name associated with the name, Buddha? People tell on the internet that there is no agreed historical evidence for Jesus. Was a belief in ascent into heaven derived from earlier beliefs concerning a sky god? Is the word, Allah, a variant on a word for, law, introduced into the eastern Mediterranean region before the Romans gained control there? Did the new religion tend to move further south to a desert region where there was greater security and separateness from the remaining influence of the Roman Empire? When I noticed this possibility, I thought the start of the word might be from Latin, something like Italian, al; but it seems it wasn't from Latin. Earlier, I had seen that the origin of the Greek, Olympus, began with what is called, the smooth breathing, meaning a sound like 'h'. Then, it seemed there was a tradition of a great hall with authority - impos. Linguists tell of coincidences between words with no historical connection and people value their own findings too much. Allah; from an origin related to, hall law? Would people in China see that, where there is the Great Hall of the People?

[@t.c.2776]

I stated earlier... that if we can't trust Islam as a "fabricated" religion, then why can or should we trust Christianity as Christian scholars can't agree on what the Bible says... how do you think WE have a few hundred various Christian Sects that argue amongst each other?... and the Bible seems to have taken stories from previous writings... adam and eve, the great flood, and others... then is it possible ALL Religions have been "fabricated" just for Power and Control and maybe even profit. Much of the World is going Secular and we now have several NEW Religions... Climate Change, Anti-White Supremacy, and WOKEISM... for what?... POWER , CONTROL, AND PROFIT...

[@civilizationmeansdomestica929]

It's simple. Allah is the abbreviated form of Ba'allah which is the feminine form of Ba'al. That's all. Nothing more. Every pantheon has its Ba'als (males) and the Ba'allahs (females). Osiris/Isis. Zeus/Hera. As for your reference to a "sky god", that would be Ba'al Shamin, or Zeus/YHWH in Greece, Jupiter/JHVH in Rome, Tyr in Norse as well I think.

[@brucetucker4847]

Moses and Moesia? that's about as silly a stretch as I've seen this year. Next I suppose you'll be saying the Danes are the lost Tribe of Dan. And Buddha isn't a name, it's a title. His name was Siddhartha Gautama. Have you ever even read an actual book that wasn't mostly pictures?

[@AnInterestedObserver]

Wouldn't the world be a far better place without any religions. No religious divisions, logic and common sense would prevail, happier people, a better world altogether.

[@brucetucker4847]

Yeah, it'd be a regular paradise, like those workers' paradises that banished religion, Stalin's USSR, Mao's China, Pol Pot's Cambodia, the Kims' North Korea.

[@rvierra7235]

Outstanding methods and documentation. Thank you.

[@bobmuh2242]

Once the church voted for trinity Rome enforced this by razing any church that taught Jesus monotheism and beheaded its bishop

[@commentfreely5443]

the church didn't vote for trinity. every christian would have been in one place with one vote each.

[@aaabrams1889]

@@commentfreely5443 The council of Nicaea in 325 VOTED IN the divinity of Jesus. The Council decided against the Arians overwhelmingly (of the estimated 250-318 attendees, all but two agreed to sign the creed, and these two, along with Arius, were banished to Illyria).

[@seal9390]

@@aaabrams1889 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jYSuc3qaq5VqpLM False

[@jamesupton4996]

And your evidence is..........(TUMBLEWEEDS).......

[@wolfthequarrelsome504]

​@@commentfreely5443 the church = the Angels and saints in heaven, the souls in purgatory and the church on earth. That would have been some plebiscite !

[@venenareligioest410]

When you remove the 20% (1 line in5) of the Quran which is incomprehensible (even to Islamic ‘scholars’) and the 20% which is based on fictional characters events and material from the Bible and New Testament - you are left with a rambling nonsensical pamphlet!

[@IslamicSchool-at-Al-HudaMosque]

Istighfar (Astaghfirullah) is the road to happiness and relief. Start chanting it whenever you are distressed, and it will, insha Allah, lift you out of your anxiety, place you in a tranquil position ...

[@venenareligioest410]

@@IslamicSchool-at-Al-HudaMosque Anxiety and Depression? I can imagine that reality can have a ‘depressing’ effect on you after you have lived a life cosseted by lies, fairy tales, faux Islamic history! But the mark of the man is when you can stand alone, without a faux ‘friend in the sky’, and take what life offers - good and bad! Try chanting Hare Krsna, it’s far more effective!

[@venenareligioest410]

@@IslamicSchool-at-Al-HudaMosque I’d rather chant Hare Krsna (and life will be sublime)! 🙏

[@dennyliegerot4021]

Very interesting...

[@jg5737]

What did early Persian and Byzantine sources say about nascent Islam from 632 a.d. to 710 a.d.?

[@hollyaldahir5116]

YHWH IS THE SERPENT GOD YHH OF THE NEGEV INSCRIPTIONS: Yhh is one of the earliest forms of the name YHWH. Yhh appears over 50 times in the Tanakh, and is used not only in Psalm 68:4 and Exodus 15:2 but also in Exodus 17:16; Psalm 77:12; 89:8; 94:7, 12; 102:18; 105:45; 106:1, Isa. 12:2; 26:4; 38:11, etc..Yhh’s name is written in the Negev inscriptions as a snake’s head with a protruding forked tongue. (Old Negev script Y + H, which is written: >--O). According to Dr. James R. Harris, a biblical scholar and archaeologist, the Hebrews carved YHWH’s full image as a ‘radiant serpent’ among these inscriptions. The image of the serpent became Yhwh's icon which was worshipped in the temple as the nehushtan or the copper viper upon a pole that was forged by Moses (Number 21:5-7).Harris’ conclusion that the early Hebrews were responsible for these inscriptions is supported by the many carvings among these inscriptions of what later became known as the Jewish menorah. These inscriptions date to as early as1200 BCE. According to Harris: “Place names found in the compositions are appropriate for the time, location, and context in which they are used. The persona of Yah is associated with radiance, as from the sun and the head of the radiant Serpent. The glory of the radiant serpent was to be extended to his people so that their countenances would shine as they become a holy nation (a sanctified people). It is possible that the serpent (as an icon of Yahweh) would have survived in greater numbers had it not been for the reforms of Hezekiah and Josiah. The serpent symbolizes Yah as the healer, and God of the storms, rain, sun, and Prince of Life. Yah was the disciplinarian, judge, protector, deliverer, teacher, purifier, and Father of his covenant people.”

[@Kruger590]

Forgotten are the facts that Muhammad's name is preserved in the Quran and the Birmingham Quran is one of the earliest, dated at between 568 and 645. The fact that The Ashtiname of Muhammad, also known as the Covenant or Testamentum of Muhammad for the Saint Catherine monastery exists and can be accessed for investigation. And the fact that during this period parchments were available and there were letters allegedly sent by prophet Muhammad to communities. What rock?

[@acm01864]

At a recorded date the church records show that a reversion to their original faith had begun of half of the new Roman Empire mostly an Eastern empire defection 😊 Romes

[@azlanameer4912]

What about the conquest of Iran in Rashidoon period? What about the victory at Yarmuk during Umar's caliphit?

[@defenderoftruth3212]

How I earnestly wish that there is now an original ARAMAIC GOSPEL because I am dying inside to read it. I hope there is a translation in English. It's hard to read it in its original form in Aramaic. I don't know that language. I think Aramaic is much harder to read than Arabic. I believe that this Gospel is a book of spiritual guidance from God. Unlike the 4 make-believe gospels, their contents are purely biographies of Prophet jESUs (pbuh) but with a huge hole in the accounts of his life covering the primetime of his age. From what museum or library can we find the original ARAMAIC GOSPEL? Is there any original manuscript for it? I am urging Jay Smith and his cohorts to produce that book as soon as possible so that Muslims and Christians alike will be enlightened. -05-17-23

[@jamesupton4996]

The common language of the Eastern Roman Empire was Koine Greek, which is why the four Gospels were written in it. I have no idea what sort of document you are looking for. It is true that Jesus spoke Aramaic,but he never wrote snything.

[@collybever]

If you;re really interested you could look at recent French research. There have certainly been Aramaic Bibles of course, and may have used early sources. I should imagine Timur must have burnt 1000s of them when he sacked Nestorian monasteries, and the fact that these formerly Aramaic areas got dominated by Islam, may mean that it was more difficult to protect the more ancient texts, the dhimmi status was often difficult. The most likely places for such texts would be Damascus and Aleppo (now much wrecked), Armenia and Assyria, but very poor places to protect such texts with all the disturbances of time there - the Assyrians and Armenians both being very harshly persecuted in particular, the Armenians having their own distinct Indo-european language anyway. With Greek, you have Copts sheltering texts in Alexandrian style Greek, Greek being lingua franca there until Arab invaders took control, and St Catherine's monastery in Sinai due to its prestige, and also Byzantine texts, protected from depredations.

[@jamesupton4996]

@@collybever All well and good, but the original text of the New Testament was written in Greek.Scholars identify Aramaisms behind various passages, and there are the occasional direct uses of Aramaic, but the closest we will come to the ipsissima verba of Jesus is through the Greek text.

[@aaabrams1889]

@@jamesupton4996 And that is not even here ''the Greek text.'' but copies of copies of copies...all corrupted as the one copy is not the same as the other and contradicts one another.... X-Xtian Bart Erhman explains kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zne1qaqgnMRrmK8

[@ms7020]

For what you wanna read a book it’s author is unknown ??

[@Smashallah365]

Blissmillah all bliss to LAH the moon god. 🌙 god the diety of Bael the devil incarnate.

[@johnwattdotca]

This video could give Christianity the same treatment and say it's debunked. I reported it for misinformation.

[@karenfisher4170]

Interesting 🧐

[@sebozz2046]

I still believe it to be the truth no matter what

[@TheEmmaLucille]

Because your brain is dead, that's the whole point of Islam: kill you brain and no morals.

[@mikegreen2229]

It’s a fairy tale. Stop doing this to yourself. The God of Moses is YAHWEH. He is the true God to believe in

[@morghe321]

"no matter what" You're just being ironic, right?

[@lshed28]

ISLAM is a lie from the devil. Jesus is Lord and every knee will bow to Jesus. Mohammed was a delusional man. His story was he went to a cave and a demon choked him and told him to read. That is suspicious. That's because it wasn't the angel Gabriel of the Bible. The angel of Gabriel told Mary her son will be called the Son of God.

[@lshed28]

That's too bad for you because if you don't leave islam you're headed to hell with the fraud Mohammed.

[@tusharahmed2793]

I have been watching Jay for over 20 years and I feel sorry for him for his tireless efforts to prove Quran a man made (astagferuAllah) book and prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) is not the last messenger. My faith on Islam gets stronger every time Goodluck Jay.

[@sandrathompson1277]

What a harsh religion Islam is…people being beheaded..having one hand chopped off..little girls being stopped from going to school…you must be so proud to know that 90% of the executions in the world happen in Iran…Saudi Arabia…Egypt….all Muslim countries…how can you claim it is a religion of love. !!!!!!!

[@KenJackson_US]

What calendar did they use for the dates on those coins?

[@user-vi9iu7er8p]

Hey guys could you please say something about the battle of khaybar around 629 AD. Thanks, God bless 🙏

[@lateststory8759]

He lived, he taught, he ruled, he inspired generations will always accept his teachings, The mind is sound with the mention of Allah, source of our existence. Prophet muhammad, our beloved. Your mission is on, we will keep the faith. Allah is our guide.

[@LaurenceOConnor-fg4dk]

Lunatic. 😂😂😂😂😂

[@lateststory8759]

@@LaurenceOConnor-fg4dk it pain you, dont worry, holy spirit will help you understand your confused bible.

[@LaurenceOConnor-fg4dk]

@@lateststory8759 You are confused, abdul.😂😂😂😂

[@lateststory8759]

@@LaurenceOConnor-fg4dk whether you like or not Islam is here with you. Nations and nations have past, there have not been a nation like Islam. This are not affected by what you think. Because for you holy spirit will have to come b4

[@LaurenceOConnor-fg4dk]

@@lateststory8759 You're deluded.

[@iamLI3]

fascinating , but what is the goal/result of showing that islam as we are told of it did not start in the 7th century but the 9th?....

[@dannybarrett1742]

Rock inscriptions don't deteriorate? Really? Tell that to a geologist and see if you're correct. The fact of the matter is that rocks can and do deteriorate, along with any inscriptions that were carved into them. However, the rate of deterioration depends on a number of things, including the type of rock. Some types of rock deteriorate and have parts crumble and disintegrate very quickly, while others remain largely unchanged for millennia. Likewise with coins, they can be used a lot and become heavily worn, or they can go into the money bag of an exceedingly rich person, who puts it into the vault with the rest of his money, for it never to see the light of day until archaeologists uncover it in pristine condition hundreds of years later. Needless to say, saying "this doesn't degrade" or " that doesn't deteriorate" is too broad a statement and it gives the impression that nuances remain unnoticed, thus detracting from your presentation. Don't get me wrong, I like what you're presenting and I think you're likely correct in your conclusions about the topics presented, but saying one-size-fits-all dogmatic one-liners that anyone with half a brain knows aren't true 100% of the time (despite what these lines seem to suggest) makes you come across as being willing to ignore conflicting evidence in order to make your claims. Unfortunately, because of this type of thing, I can't show my non-practicing Muslim wife your videos because they would turn her completely off instead of prompting her to drop Islam completely and come to Jesus. All of that being said, you're doing excellent research. Please keep it up. It's just that the delivery sometimes comes across as being a bit like a used car salesman, trying to get a signature on a contract of sale. Or, more accurately, your delivery comes across as a debater performing for an audience to win an argument, rather than gently guiding a blindfolded person out of an obstacle-laden maze to freedom. If there's someone using your material (or similar) in a more gentle way, please let us know because the hard debate style will work for far fewer people than it will turn away.

[@brucewelty7684]

Interesting

[@DivineMisterAdVentures]

This is just slightly above rumor quality, even to a non-expert like me. I doubt a lot about Islam - prophecy in particular. But the basic history, although not written, why would that be fabricated? How?

[@prophet883]

Thank you

[@brianvannorman1465]

Have a blessed day.

[@Metcraft2]

Im getting confused on the dating. 700 BC is 100 years BEFORE 600 BC and it sounds like your saying 600 BC is before 700 BC. As you move forward in time in BC the number goes down.

[@brucetucker4847]

They were talking about AD/CE (not to be confused with AC/DC).

[@user55lovesfr95]

Muslim brothers and sisters, wake up. Learn and study history, geography, mythology, archeology, linguistics, discourse, narrative, grammar, etc to understand your religion. Through these disciplines many people know it now. So, muslim brothers and sisters, free yourselves from these confusing narratives.

[@miorfaizulsabki6667]

If you study history, geography linguistics, archeology you know Jay Smith and Al Fadi is just another lier.

[@alonzoharris9049]

Muslims should accept Christianity?🤣🥴

[@esamshamoay303]

@@alonzoharris9049 If they do then they are freed from this evil and laughable ideology called Islam.

[@christianfrommuslim]

@@alonzoharris9049 Yes, All the prophets before Jesus had blood sacrifice for sin. He was the prophesied final sacrifice. Jesus said that merely claiming to be a prophet was not enough (Injeel John 5). Then he gave his proofs: 1. The testimony of Yahia, a living prophet said that he was the Lamb of God (aka John the Baptist) 2. His fabulous miracles 3. The many, strong prophecies about him. For Christians to follow another prophet, they much have stronger proof than this. No other prophet ever has.

[@ernaherlina8014]

I have free myself from the confusing narrative that God has a father, and that father is also God and, and the father and the son is the same.

[@kaitimebb]

A possible explanation for a lack of coins and inscriptions is that Muhammad forbade veneration of his person, worship being for the one deity alone. However the lack of conversion poetry is more problematic.

[@pauls9189]

Man makes God in our own image.

[@aaabrams1889]

THIS IS A OLD VIDEO of Al-fadi Jay uploaded😅🤣

[@sherlockholmes6990]

7:20. I'd like to know if there was a tradition of carving inscriptions on rocks in the south. Maybe it was just a northern thing. We know that the Nabataeans were renowned rock carvers. I'm neither Muslim nor am I even religious; however, there seems to be a hole in the argument which uses these rock inscriptions as evidence.