27| The Metaphysics of Recruiting w/Jim Lawler

THE METAPHYSICS OF RECRUITING
Recruiting Spies is an abstract art form, and the techniques can be applied to every aspect of our lives. But, like all relationships, recruiting spies requires extreme trust building skills. Therefore, tune into this enriching episode and discover Jim Lawler’s Eight Keys to Success for Recruiters and how they can be applied to all aspects of life.
What We Discuss with Jim:
⁃ Getting Recruited by the CIA
⁃ The Personality of a Spy Recruiter
⁃ Inspiring Trust to Betray Trust
⁃ The Eight Keys to Success for Recruiters
⁃ The Metaphysics of Recruiting
Jim Lawler:
Mr. Lawler serves as a national security consultant and is the Senior Partner at MDO Group, which provides HUMINT training to the Intelligence Community and the commercial sector focused on WMD, CI, technical and cyber issues. Mr. Lawler is a noted speaker on the Insider Threat in government and industry. Prior to this, Mr. Lawler served for 25 years as a CIA operations officer in various international posts and as Chief of the Counterproliferation Division's Special Activities Unit. His overseas assignments include Bern Paris Oslo and Zurich (1991-1994).
Mr. Lawler was a member of CIA's Senior Intelligence Service (SIS-3) from 1998 until his retirement in 2005. He was a specialist in the recruitment of foreign spies, and he spent well over half of his CIA career battling the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.
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Resources mentioned in the podcast:
Jim latest book, “In the Twinkling of an Eye”

[@pgallovich]

I can't wait to watch this!

[@rdreeke]

Me too 😊🙌

[@shawnajackson8565]

The combined wisdoms shared here...simply EPIC! A heartfelt gratitude to Robin and James for their service to our country.

[@rdreeke]

Thank you Shawna 🙏☺️

[@Andy-jt8wz]

The inside look that Robin Dreeke gives us access to is beyond fascinating. These valuable wisdoms continuously allow me to improve my daily interactions with people of all walks of life. Thank YOU Robin for this awesome content!

[@rdreeke]

Thank you Andy! It such an honor and pleasure to share 🙏

[@thebodylanguagebookclub-SamD]

Another great episode!

[@rdreeke]

Thank you so much and it is such a pleasure having you join Sam 🙏

[@EliciaWendling]

What a gift to hear his stories. I am so thankful people like him exist.

[@rdreeke]

No doubt 🙏

[@UnofficialAnthem]

I love watching bond movies but this is way better. Plus, being a better person is always a take away here.

[@MrRobhorn]

Another tremendous episode Robin, there is always the consistent thread with your guests of leveraging trust, relationship building, active listening and building rapport. How did you deal with the barriers that people may have put up if they felt some manipulation? And secondly how did/do you deal with the feelings you may have when looking for peoples “cracks” or vulnerabilities? It seems to me the two sides of the coin? Thanks again great work…

[@rdreeke]

Great questions. I can’t speak for Jim… but I believe what he sees as “cracks” I see as pain points in someone’s life. I am consistent with my personal brand as a human that I will be a resource for others in terms of their priorities and pain points. I haven’t had anyone confront me with saying I was manipulating because of my actions and words as well as full transparency was always congruent. Transparency is the true key. In the episode Jim talked about how straight forward he was. He never tricked anyone into anything. That is the difference.

[@MrRobhorn]

@@rdreeke thanks Robin please correct me if I’m over simplifying this, I see that as Genuine, consistent rapport? Rob