270 Degree Rephased XS65 - Hugh's HandBuilt

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Hugh's HandBuilt

Hugh's HandBuilt

Күн бұрын

Thats right folks, we finally built a 270 Degree Rephased XS650 Engine
Ok, here comes the flood of emails, questions, etc... So I'll just quote Wikipedia for the reason to rephase an OEM Firing Pattern of 360 (which is the stock XS650 engine configuration) to a 277 or 270
"The classic British parallel twins (BSA, Triumph, Norton, AJS & Matchless) had a 360° crankshaft that, compared to a single, gave twice as many ignition pulses, which were evenly spaced.
The Yamaha TRX850 had a 270° crank that allowed a more regular firing pattern than a 180° crank, and less regular than a 360° crank. This configuration has the best possible secondary engine balance for a parallel twin; its exhaust sound and power delivery is identical to a 90° V-twin." - Think Ducati or Suzuki SV Series engines
While we do a TON of 277 engines (it's the most cost effective rephase for the XS650) this one is 270 degrees. I've always wanted to build one. It requires a specially made center pin for the crank ($$$$$) and 2 donor cranks to build a single 270 crank. Then the camshaft and ignition must also match the new firing order of course.
What you see here, is a 750cc 270 Degree XS650 Engine, using JE Pistons, our HHB D-Shaped Ported Head, 5th Gear OD, HHB 6 into 7 Clutch mod, 5th Gear OD, HHB Oil Cooler and all the other little tricks we do at Hugh's HandBuilt
I hope you enjoy it. Go find our Blog, and check out the other cool things you can do with these bikes. They are a blast to own, mod and work on.
Hugh

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@johnmcclain3887
@johnmcclain3887 2 жыл бұрын
In the early nineties, I was a marine recruiter in Richmond, and bought seven basket case XS 650's, and one that had sat in the rain minus spark plugs. I swapped top ends from one basket, built the others and sold, and rode the one for three or four years, with great pleasure. I'd had a 64 TR6R five or six years in the late seventies, a half a dozen harley's, and now ride a 78 Bonnie, just recently bought. I'd never delved into the XS's I had, just swapped parts to put friends on bikes, but I'm really intrigued by this as it's so easy to do on these engines. Much as I hate to say it, this was what Triumph should've done going to the T-140, the engineering on the XS is simply up to date with it's times, and while quite solid, sound, is merely putting modern technology in a time tested, proven bike. I'm seriously considering building up a custom motorcycle around this engine. Thanks, it really sounds great.
@adventureride424
@adventureride424 8 жыл бұрын
Lovely job! 270 parallel twins make such a lot of sense. Phil Irving pioneered the idea back in the 1930s but for various reasons it didn't catch on. I rode a friends rephased Laverda 750 and liked the concept so much I bought a Yamaha TDM 900. Lovin' the idea of a 270 degree XS65, a thinking man's motorcycle! Thanks for posting and good luck with the project.
@Diesel415
@Diesel415 6 жыл бұрын
It may be the only one in the USA NOW but it certainly is nothing new... the era of the XS650 is just long in the tooth considering it's age so that would explain the lack of rephased XSs. I had two in the 90s and raced one of them as a 750 with a specially profiled Web cam. Either way I'm so glad you have a video of this wonderful mod for the newly initiated to enjoy and appreciate.
@diamondmidnightgardener
@diamondmidnightgardener 4 жыл бұрын
nice dripset! But seriously, I'm amazed that anyone could build such an engine.... well done
@kenmoore7195
@kenmoore7195 5 жыл бұрын
I owned an XS650B once . Wish it had sounded like that, sounds like an old Duc !
@ZoneTelevision
@ZoneTelevision 9 жыл бұрын
Eargasm !!! Excellent Excellent build !!!. ohhhhh That sounds just soooooo sweet.
@jojojeep1
@jojojeep1 8 жыл бұрын
what a great looking motor, makes me wonder why I'm stuck on Harley, very very nice
@BlizzardHockey4432
@BlizzardHockey4432 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder the same thing lol
@johnmcclain3887
@johnmcclain3887 2 жыл бұрын
My first Harley was a 74 XLH, nothing but trouble, I put my TR6R in the shed for it, had six or seven since, still have an 88 inch custom I built, but haven't even registered it in a decade. I'm riding a 78 Bonnie, and am looking back thirty years, to some eight XS's I picked up, worked and sold, wishing I'd never gotten off any of them. I'm currently looking into an XS engine, precisely because they are so adaptable while mirroring everything I love about Triumphs. I'm getting my house painted, new flooring and got well over a hundred miles in yesterday, just chasing "paint and hardware", and really enjoying the summer. I tend to be much more "laid back" on the Bonnie, than ever on the Harley. I also am enjoying the very fine handling, something the XS's also were great for.
@iwens1966
@iwens1966 10 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is the exhaust note noticeably different than a 277 degree rephase? GOD, it sounds great! By the way, I am on the hunt for a basket case XS650 for a cafe racer project, all inspired by you, Hugh.
@MrPercyboy
@MrPercyboy 11 жыл бұрын
Great sounding pipes. They look and sound a lot like Ducati Conti's
@TheGDFP
@TheGDFP 9 жыл бұрын
SO much lustier-sounding than a 360!
@donaldbranscom9981
@donaldbranscom9981 10 жыл бұрын
There are many of these rephased cranks. The flat track world has been using them for a long time.
@readchesterton
@readchesterton 10 жыл бұрын
The most beautiful sounding 650 ever
@punkskalar
@punkskalar 11 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Pamcopete made the ignition custom for me - we happen to be good friends :)
@gloucesterdavid
@gloucesterdavid 11 жыл бұрын
Sounds good. Would love to know how power compares to a 277 and stock.
@colincampbell4261
@colincampbell4261 6 ай бұрын
Lovely.
@xzqzq
@xzqzq 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds wonderful. Don't really understand the advantage of rephrasing XS650 motor. More power ?
@bikeartchannel
@bikeartchannel 2 жыл бұрын
nice sound, in 270is it has more power than the stock bro?
@ticosandoval
@ticosandoval 9 жыл бұрын
That's the best I've heard and XS sound... is it the rephase or the exhaust that get's that deep growl?
@derek6580
@derek6580 6 жыл бұрын
Dyno it. I’d love to know what it’s pushing. You said 270 crank bored to 750 and ported?
@GiantAntCowboy
@GiantAntCowboy 9 жыл бұрын
Dude, that sounds amazing. Great work!
@ahimeirhadad4836
@ahimeirhadad4836 Жыл бұрын
Full Cross Plane Crankshaft V8 Sound
@muaythai193
@muaythai193 4 жыл бұрын
Can you change that for every engine? I always though that the Fiat 500 Twinair, which has a 360 degree parallel twin, would sound awesome with a 270 degree crank!
@smutty542
@smutty542 11 жыл бұрын
Did a 270 a couple of years ago and love it. Mines stock otherwise including the ignition (re-phased of course). Got over 2000 miles on it with no problems. Where did you get your ignition from? The most popular supplier couldn't help me with a 270, only offered 277.
@benbassett1
@benbassett1 11 жыл бұрын
Amazing, Been wanting one for a wile. Are you going to do a write up and offer these soon?
@shAdOwstAlkEr945
@shAdOwstAlkEr945 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to rephase the 180 crank of a yamaha R3 into a 270?
@Drunken_Hamster
@Drunken_Hamster 8 жыл бұрын
Could you do a 270 vs 277 direct sound comparison video with engine setups that are as equal as possible aside from the rephasing?
@ricochet08
@ricochet08 9 жыл бұрын
that sounds damn good!
@muaythai193
@muaythai193 3 жыл бұрын
I wish Fiat used a 270 degree crank for their twinair engines...
@LeonardBruno
@LeonardBruno 10 жыл бұрын
what mufflers are on there? sounds pretty good.
@jamiebordelon7941
@jamiebordelon7941 8 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Got any HP numbers?
@edriawann9299
@edriawann9299 7 жыл бұрын
mantap jiwa
@ianabellanosa3208
@ianabellanosa3208 2 жыл бұрын
Do you still do engine rephase?
@SteffanoDucati
@SteffanoDucati 5 ай бұрын
So how bout a before and after dyno sheet ?
@jeffmitchison6822
@jeffmitchison6822 5 ай бұрын
What ignition system did you use ?
@motoputz3201
@motoputz3201 3 жыл бұрын
nice ...that ain't your dads xs650 that's for sure
@tomosan1967
@tomosan1967 9 жыл бұрын
sweet
@jameshaury2716
@jameshaury2716 8 жыл бұрын
so it makes the engine smoother and more comfortable to ride?
@cocodog85
@cocodog85 7 жыл бұрын
1) how do you re phase the cam? 2) since it passes through the cam, is the ignition advance unit left intact? 3) who's points ignition set is used? thanks.
@Bbbbad724
@Bbbbad724 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone sell the pins for a 270 /90 in 2022?
@GarySmythe
@GarySmythe 7 жыл бұрын
Can you guys make a 270 degree crankshaft and matching cams for my Triumph T140V engine?
@TheTonyjara
@TheTonyjara 9 жыл бұрын
How much did it cost from a stock engine to achieve this?
@ibuiltmineo1oo
@ibuiltmineo1oo 11 жыл бұрын
why 270?
@ahmadfathurrazzaq501
@ahmadfathurrazzaq501 4 жыл бұрын
salut 🔊📣🇲🇨
@mikewf100
@mikewf100 9 жыл бұрын
Damn
@HambaAllah-et6hm
@HambaAllah-et6hm 3 жыл бұрын
Idaman🥺😔
@ustv892
@ustv892 6 жыл бұрын
MonatA
@celo689
@celo689 4 жыл бұрын
mt 07 today
@mattjones6315
@mattjones6315 9 жыл бұрын
1:24 i creamed sorry :(
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