270 Park Avenue: New York's $3BN Skyscraper Explained

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I'll say that the Trump tower should be the first to become the housing of the homeless of the New Yorks people.

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[@David-iv2sf]

Do a video on a skyscraper called 740 Eighth Avenue

[@nachoolo]

Rent is the key problem here. No matter the fancy things you build, the offices ain't gonna get filled if the workers can't afford to live in NYC.

[@SkyForceOne2]

Wait, so you're saying billionaires buying up all the new apartments and letting them sit vacant is NOT a solution to the general housing problem!? :P

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The people working at JPMorgan are not the people struggling to make rent in New York lol

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JC Morgan Chase executives make Bank pun intended

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@@noggin6870 So no cleaners, maintenance staff, food servers etc. required to service that huge building with 10s of thousands of workers?

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@@midnightstar4065 I'm not sure what your point is, none of the vacant office space in New York right now has anything to do with people in those positions.

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Good urban planning should require a *lot* of economics. A lot of problems with urban design (eg. housing problems) are the result of thinking about urban planning through an architectural/ideological/community-based lens as opposed to an economic lens.

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@@oO0Xenos0Oo hah! I dropped out of arch school for just that reasons

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@@_human_1946 this is an interesting comment. Can you expand on some economic positions which cater to this industry of urban planning? Is it mainly just consulting or what else. Thanks.

[@joeregrets18]

I'm so stoked you've done a video for this building. I go to NYC for work a couple times a month and seeing it's progress every time is so exciting. Absolutely stunning building.

[@rjd3wine]

I have a weekly appointment across Madison Avenue once a week and have been documenting the growth since the first street level I-beams went up. Exciting!

[@rohitpollock7247]

i work next to this building and see the progress every day. i take pictures everyday and it amazes me everyday. this video felt so nice

[@radar_the_fox]

I wish i could see progress at any time but i never see photos of the progress online thats very recent

[@ajplays7241]

I like how when they highlight a Feauture the Twin Towers had they still say “the first building” I’m like umm “There were first Twin Buildings”

[@JUAN75001]

​@@radar_the_foxCheck out NY YIMBY they have the most recent updates on the construction!

[@mfman2]

I had an internship in the building next door during the summer of 2019. I remember walking by the site every day and seeing signs of “Future J.P. Morgan Chase World Head Quarters.” I’d look up and think, “wow, that building looks really boring.” And now I’m just learning they were tearing it down! The replacement looks awesome.

[@coolboss999]

Honestly, this skyscraper looks to be a great addition to the skyline of NYC. The design of the building is beautiful😍. Keep up the great work B1M!

[@RobertodelaVega-t3w]

It's another Ugly building designed for Money Laundering Corporations and Greedy Bankers.

[@cfmun11]

I’ll just say, I’m so happy this building design is kinda art deco. The worst thing that happened to New York’s skyline was abandoning Art Deco for Modernism

[@CHMichael]

It seems that most of the time "modernism " is just least expensive. As I like to say - great modern architecture is really hard and most is just blaaaa

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Uhm seems like you dont know a lot about architecture 😬

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@@rurathn5534 The General Electric building disagrees with your tastes

[@cfmun11]

@@rurathn5534 you like modernism or am I misusing the word?

[@BrandonJXN2]

This is more modernist than art deco. The supertall in Brooklyn is more art deco than this. If this building were proposed in 1965 it would be lauded as an exceptional piece of modernist architecture.

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[@Dutchovenderlinde]

As a JPM employee, I get really excited when I see the updates about the new HQ. Really hoping for a “field trip” someday to the new building after it opens!

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[@pectenmaximus231]

Miami isn’t close to being Wall Street. It’s a few Hedge Fund heavyweights who want sunshine. New York is the top dog, and nothing indicating this will change. The ascendancy of financial centers around the world does little to change this because even if they’re nascent planets, they still orbit the sun that is NYC.

[@dennismassimi-js6mv]

Miami isn't even remotely close to NYC or even Chicago tbh

[@rich_in_paradise]

Man, the foundation situation sounds precarious.

[@mikeystark8015]

“Put New York back on the map” tell that to my monthly rent

[@JoshuaFagan]

I'm torn, because I actually think the design of this building looks quite majestic and elegant, but on the other hand, I really don't think that enormous office buildings are the future anymore, considering how many people in business and finance are working from home.

[@grigandy]

There are still lots of fields where remote working does not work as good. Demand would go down in some fields but considering that the population of USA is constantly going up(opposite from Japan or China where demographic decline will make tall buildings not as needed in the long term) the demand for living and working spaces in urban environments will only be delayed, not reduced.

[@mxecho]

Any company that can out produce ; will out compete an "at home" work force. Chase bank will never be tended from couches. Who would leave billions to a banker in their cheeto stained briefs?

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@@mxechohe says as most ceos never enter the office… work from home doesn’t mean everyone incompetent and disheveled

[@OubleJum]

Could be renovated into an apartment complex, but everyone's apartment doubles as an office.

[@blackopszombiekill3r]

I believe there will be fewer skyscrapers for businesses in the future. Instead, they will construct several more modern-looking buildings, like the one pictured, close to each other for the high-paying and high-ranking businesses worldwide in those cities and states. The older business skyscrapers may be converted into apartments or condos for remote workers and just anyone who wants to live there, but there will always be a need for business buildings. Face-to-face business meetings ensure that everyone is on the same page and focused on the business plan. Just my opinion and thoughts

[@R.E.F]

This is one of the few modern skyscrapers that I, from an architectural point of view, like. What makes it beautiful to me is the setbacks and geometric decoration.

[@liamcoolcool]

still looks like it's built like my uncle

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[@gevans446]

There's one huge reason why Miami will never overtake NYC beyond just climate change: public transit. Miami Metrorail only has 23 stations, and while the Metromover is a unique and cool system (particularly since it is free and gets you anywhere you need to in Downtown Miami), it still pales to the NYC Subway.

[@GeorgeP-uj8xc]

Miami in investing heavily in upgrading the system and expanding it. They just announced they're adding 27 more carts in the coming years.

[@gevans446]

@@GeorgeP-uj8xc but there are few if any major expansions in the works

[@steinschneider1314]

We're not talking about normal people here, this is about ultra wealthy, and their luxurious office skyscrapers. Your average company can run business from any regular old town office block

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@@TheB1M Mexico City is the LARGEST city by population in North America idiot. Mexico City has 8.9 million and NYC has 8.4 million.

[@gowzahr]

As an engineer, my degree says this building is as safe as any other in New York, but my mind just screams, "DO NOT WALK UNDER THAT DEATH TRAP UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES."

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“City in decline”, is how NYC is described in this video. And the reason is because office occupancy is down. By that measure, other cities have it significantly worse. NYC’s office occupancy rate is around 54%, while London, England is only 44%.

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New Yorks problem: Lack of living space New Yorks solution: more office space Yeeeeah...

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@Malachai Carter isn't this primarily an office building? And isn't the main problem for the city its insane cost of living? What is intern making it uncompetitive compared to other places ?

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The tower that was dismantled was higher than any building here in Rio (216m x 163m)...

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I'm not an engineer by any stretch of the imagination. But that base structure make me nervous.

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Bro NYC is building skyscrapers every month

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It’s good to see British architects Foster + Partners is designing this new American icon. British civil engineers and architects are world class. Hopefully, they will do the same in London too.

[@AVdE10000]

Interesting stuff! I just so happened to be in NYC, so I'm definitely going to check out the construction site one of these days. Great video!

[@kcnmsepognln]

Reminds me of 21 Moorfields in London: built over Moorgate tube, the piles were also an issue and the steel frame is also on display.

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Love these videos, thanks for much. Love the breakdown of the building showing the subways and structural part, great work❤

[@mdhazeldine]

While the reason for building it is a bit dubious, I have to admit, this is one of Foster's best projects for a while. The base design is genius and it fits in very well with its surroundings. Love the art deco edge to it.

[@RobertodelaVega-t3w]

It's another Ugly building designed for Money Laundering Corporations and Greedy Bankers... it's NOT Art Deco at all.

[@Flowing23]

Excellent video, amazing building. Please if possible more on the foundation system the building rests on, it might be the most interesting part of the whole structure. Thank you.

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second that request!

[@vandyninja13]

Grady Smith did a great podcast on this!

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Morgan Stanley’s new building being built from customer ATM fees

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I work right around the corner from this building site. It was truly fascinating to see them dismantle the old building. I've never seen anything like it!

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[@cieproject2888]

As a New Yorker, I will say that the feeling on the ground is nowhere near as bleak as the text for this video makes it out to be. And indeed, there is a LOT of current construction making up for the lag in super premium office space

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Generally, I like the design of the skyscraper, but as HQ I would have imagined something more sinsiter-looking for JPMorgan Chase & Co.

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These fundaments are really really worrying to me! It's just feels like there aren't enough to hold this huge building! I hope they calculated everything right

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Can not see any other city can be a financial centre like NYC. Thank you.

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Not anytime soon. London came close tho but then brexit happened

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There are a lot of financial indexes that rate cities, and depending on which one you're looking at, either New York or London are number 1 globally.

[@skyscraperfan]

New Yorkers do not really seem to care about any new skyscrapers. If you talk to them, many have never heard of "The Spiral" for example. That is a supertall skyscraper with quite large floor plates and with a cost of $3.7 billion it is one of the most expensive skyscrapers ever built. Such a tower would dominate most skylines in the world, but in New York City it is just seen as another skyscraper in Hudson Yards. From street level most supertall skyscrapers do not have a huge impact. For example if you walk along Park Avenue, 432 Park Avenue might not catch your intention. Only from a distance you will see how impressive it is. Even for a 400 metre tower it is not easy any more to stand out in Manhattan. 270 Park Avenue might stand out at night because of the illuminated top.

[@zionismisterrorism8716]

The Seagram Building built a plaza, so it does have an impact on the street. I think people would care, if there was a skyscraper built in NoHo or East Village or Chinatown, because it would mostly be by itself and you could easily see it.

[@Itsmarkyoung]

Another great video! It’s interesting to see how office towers are becoming more adaptable with leisure and amenities to attract tenants, something I believe is a good thing to see. The same thing is happening here in Los Angeles, every new office tower that goes up seems to have a sky deck, rooftop cinema, gym etc

[@rafaeltorre1643]

Thats because they only recently lifted requirements that required the roof be flat and available for helicopters for emergencies, etc. now we can actually have skyscrapers with a peak and not just flat squares of modernity.

[@BlackringIII]

The first building I'm seeing go up in New York, in my time, that I actually love the design.

[@jaygurung4640]

You might like The Brooklyn Tower (9 Dekalb) I just passed by yesterday and it is 98% finished.

[@Lv-nq9qz]

I kinda like 1 Vanderbuilt, it has an interesting crown that they light up in different colors

[@MSDesignASMR]

Always great to see another video

[@austingregory9118]

I’m so happy with the building’s design! I love NYC and architecture. This building compliments the ESB, Chrysler Building, and 1WTC so well. I can’t wait to visit when it’s completed. I live in Charlotte, Nc and Bank of America’s corporate center is the best and tallest tower we have. It kinda has a similar Art deco design inspiration!

[@RobertodelaVega-t3w]

It's another Ugly building designed for Money Laundering Corporations and Greedy Bankers... it's NOT Art Deco at all.

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[@socalstr]

New York is way too massive and great to allow a comparatively small project like this to have much of an impact on anything that NYC already is.

[@zionismisterrorism8716]

This building is a great addition to NY. Nothing wrong with that.

[@Lv-nq9qz]

It'll definitely effect the skyline, along with the new Grand Hyatt building going up over by Grand Central Terminal, the east side is going to look a lot taller in a few years

[@zionismisterrorism8716]

@@Lv-nq9qz I think the souvenir shops will start selling small models of these new skyscrapers, same as with the Empire State Building.

[@radar_the_fox]

@@Lv-nq9qz nooo i hope they dont build that disgusting hotel

[@Lv-nq9qz]

@@radar_the_foxI think it's kinda nice, but it is a little over scaled for its site

[@ЭльмарИдрисов-г5э]

Tbh, foundations (or rather lack of them) are scaring me. Will it really be safe? To build something on such few foundations and on top of metro/underground tubes?

[@l-y-d-s]

Bedrock

[@aaronkamakaze2967]

Isn’t Mexico City North Americas largest city by population?

[@njnikusha]

You are right. Both in terms of city limits and metropolitan area

[@Starsman112]

NYC has been labeled "a city in decline" many times in the past, a city left for dead, a city emblematic of urban decay. NYC always bounces back, emblematic of what NYC is all about. I LOVE NYC!

[@gpaulu]

It's a common misconception, but the largest city by population in North America is not NYC. It's actually Mexico City.

[@zionismisterrorism8716]

NY Metro area has a population of 23 million. That's more than Mexico City.

[@JL1009]

I just walked by it this weekend. it looks very unstable, but what do I know

[@stephencurry8552]

"Wall street of the south?" In all of my financial reading. Never once read that about florida. LOL!

[@tjr4459]

NYC has nothing to worry about concerning Miami. Miami is a least several tiers down and not even on the map. In North America, NYC is in a league of its own.

[@gowzahr]

Personally, avoiding the commute is the biggest reason I don't want to go back to working in the office. I'd rather have affordable apartments in the building so that I could live and work in the same building than have a gym and a three ring circus that I could visit on my lunch break.

[@somerandomcommenter5823]

NYC never has, nor will, lose its MOJO!

[@benqurayza7872]

The trophy buildings are pointless if New York's transportation infrastructure lags behind other world cities. Even JP Morgan's new building on Park Avenue requires thousands of workers who make less than $100,000 a year. They have to be delivered efficiently, comfortably, and safely to the office from the outer reaches of the region in NY, NJ, and Connecticut.

[@aaa54583]

as a floridian, i can assure you nobody enjoys living in Miami unless they're tourists.

[@welfareleech1525]

exactly

[@_WorldWorks]

Another high quality, informative video from the B1M. Keep up the great work!

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Sponsor ends at 5:25

[@OLLXTXY]

Great video once again, thanks Fred!

[@LukeWatson99]

YES, we need more new york videos

[@ASLUHLUHC3]

A modern-day cathedral

[@ClarkRahman]

The V-shaped columns remind me of the old-school French design when building tax was calculated by the area of the building footprint and not the size of the usable space of the building. The most simple concepts are often so complex.

[@paynefanbro]

Miami is not set to take over NYC in any meaningful way, no matter how new the office stock or nice the weather. NYC’s GDP is greater than the entire state of Florida.

[@tylerkochman1007]

The building they tore down, unfortunately, meant destroying one of the most substantial buildings ever to have a female lead architect. The loss of the Union Carbide Building leaves either Chicago’s Equitable Building or NYC’s Lever House probably as Natalie de Blois’ surviving masterpiece.

[@ep1981]

I'm sure they've thought about it... but that massive tower on 'just' those 20 or so steel legs looks awfully... spindly

[@daniellemhall1358]

This is crazy. Buildings that are narrow at the bottom are beginning to scare me.

[@BurrQ19]

Just took the LIRR to Grand Central Madison 3 months ago late at night. Walked from there, and the Vanderbuilt up past 270 Park to Billionares Row, and then to 10th Ave. Then I walked south to Hudson Yards. I'll visit this building again in the daytime to see the progress they've made.

[@thomasjohannesvanee6387]

I have been to New York and was thinking to come back again. Now I am sure to go back once this elegant behemoth is finished.

[@a.s.f.g.8345]

The thing I can't wrap my head around is how all of this is more financially viable than just building in another location

[@paynefanbro]

Location Location Location. It’s next door to one the third busiest rail station in North America. It connects not only to the NYC subway but also regional rail like Metro North and the Long Island Railroad. That means it’ll allow people from as far away as Connecticut to get a one-seat ride to work.

[@Stargazer771]

This building looks stunning. It and Brooklyn tower are my favorite recent additions.

[@jacques2659]

Thank you for finally (3 years late) acknowledging NYC’s decline. I’ve lived in NYC’s FiDI for several years, and with the office to apartment conversions, there is literally no business left on physical Wall St. Walking around, it feels like elevated public housing. Midtown still maintains its importance, but not in the pre-Covid pandemic at at all.

[@neeljavia2965]

Lol

[@BoldFollower]

I work for chase and I’m conflicted. 95% of every employee I know prefers Work From Home. We did surveys and 70+% wants permanent wfh and wouldn’t mind never going into an office again. Upper leadership keeps pushing to go back into office because they are stuck in their archaic ways… This building is such a pointless purchase in my opinion, taking all the funds they could be directing… anywhere else… and what’s worse is it directly pushes back against the majority of employees feedback to make the higher ups feel good about themselves. We get emails about this building and how we should be ‘excited’ about it but we have tens of thousands of employees over the US and overseas that would never benefit from this building in any way. Business has changed, Chase needs to also. Lots of wasted resources. It’s so silly

[@errorsofmodernism7331]

If you work from home the manager positions could be offshored. By making you come to the office this requires local managerial staff. Why would managers recommend that you work from home if this eliminates their job? You must not be very sharp.

[@BoldFollower]

@@errorsofmodernism7331 making me come in the office doesn’t require local management. We have entire teams who work in our offices with managers in other states or countries and vice Versa. Our office spaces are rented and remote management is normal

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[@brucebush5744]

Not convinced by the economics - but the architecture and engineering on this one look seriously impressive. Great video.

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I'm no fan of modern architecture, and not really a fan of this building, but I pass it several times a week and am impressed by the engineering. The catacombs of steel in the interior was a sight to behold. Of course, now it's all covered with glass, so what was interesting in the design is now covered over, but I have to hand it to the designers.

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Then a bigger portion of the money wouldn’t go to him

[@Bnio]

1:25 isn't Mexico City larger?

[@robertlypka3442]

Yes it is. Mexico City is over twice as large by population.

[@heidirabenau511]

*Largest city in the US not North America.

[@njnikusha]

Yes.. Mexico city 9.2 mln NYC 8.8 million

[@nickcockayne7880]

Central America

[@bonnbybike]

I loved the old 270 Park Avenue. It was one of my alltime favorite skyscrapers ever built. Gonna miss it. Sad I never seen it in reallife. I like its 1960s zeitgeist as the more known Seagram Building has also

[@gtd9536]

I would love to see a spin off channel where you dive into more details about construction. For instance, how the heck did they do 6:27 to 6:32 ? I really love this channel but its presentation is at the level of urban planning / architecture / politics, even though B1M's logo says "The Definitive Video Channel for CONSTRUCTION." (cap locks mine).

[@rayswag]

Cool video but Miami didn't need to be mentioned nor is this a comeback. New York has been booming and as it's looking will forever be building worlds class structures

[@adam-g7crq]

for any large metropolis you've gotta start making them affordable for everyone to live there.

[@chichialex1327]

The first statement you made about housing being affordable in NYC really put me off.

[@jtd8719]

It was a lovely bit of acting and made perfectly clear it was so by the "but now back to the real world..." immediately following.

[@deronn.j6088]

Is there any structural difference when they build the floors first then the core?

[@XiLin108]

I am not at all an expert, but I believe that this building's all-steel core provides less shear strength than a concrete core of comparable size (the concrete here is only for fireproofing, not structural) - hence the huge diamond shaped braces! However, this has less to do with the order in which they are built- One Vanderbilt and One World Trade Center both have structural concrete cores, yet theirs were also built after the floors.

[@LittleMissSmallPaw]

There basically is no load bearing core at all in this building.

[@arafat464]

lol, before Miami, Charlotte is a larger financial hub. The problem is Charlotte doesn't build anything flashy to earn a world record. Instead, it builds conservatively. But it is the home of the nation's second largest bank and is a nice place to live with low cost of living.

[@stevieinselby]

I really hope they've calculated the loadings on those supports correctly 😲 And not sure how inviting the public plaza will be when you've got a skyscraper sitting above it...

[@franciscodanconia4324]

I was thinking the same thing. There’s going to be a lot of horizontal force trying to push those triangular supports apart at the corners. The last time NYC tried to build a building with offset footings it didn’t work out so well.

[@fibonaccisrazor]

Indeed. What works in paper doesn't necessarily work in practice. There are many examples of huge structures ending in disaster. Putting such a huge "theory" in such a densely populated area is a financially motivated hazard.

[@blancavelasquez9859]

@@fibonaccisrazor i’m sure they hired the best of everything for this gem of a skyscraper

[@fibonaccisrazor]

@@blancavelasquez9859So am I. Foster & Partners are certainly amongst the very best, but the Titanic is an example of nature's unpredictability.

[@gregderise9969]

I hope there’s no tremors from an earth quake & shake! They didn’t use trump steel from China did they? Nah, it wouldn’t be standing if they had. But seriously, I’d that some special steel made just for that? The Japanese claim to have some prices that make steel stronger than any other steel in the planet. They use it in their tanks but I wonder if it also has the correct structural properties for buildings.

[@copilotconrad]

You caught me completely off guard when you said New York smells of roses and the subway was reliable 😂

[@Techischannel]

Now imagine this building, but instead of offices galore nobody needs its rentable apartments. I find such a thing much more attractive, plus providing more living space that people can actually afford for once would help the cities economy i bet. You know, more money to spend on things like offices, shops, bank loans, etc.

[@TheTImmy665]

I’m curious about the premise that nyc is in decline. I’ve seen skyscrapers go up in Brooklyn and continue to go up in Manhattan since I’ve lived here. Rents go up because more people are willing to pay those prices. If apartments don’t get filled buildings lower the rent. Sure nyc isn’t at the same pace it was before the pandemic, but is anywhere?

[@MXarcx]

From what i gathered, in ny, landlords rather let real estate sit unoccupied for 11 years than risk lowering the buildings evaluation by lowering the asking price. (According to Louis Rossmann's NY real estate series and live streams)

[@TheTImmy665]

@@MXarcx that’s more common in Manhattan, specifically the most affluent parts. In more general terms, as in 5 million housing units in NYC not for the wealthy that’s less the case. I watched rents in my building go up, and then come back down slightly since summer 2022. Other places appear to reflect this. (In Brooklyn) that being said, this is my personal experience. I am still curious however about any evidence of NY’s decline.