Tupac was the first rapper I ever felt sad for when he passed. I was like 12 years old. RIP Pac
@claytonprice91372 жыл бұрын
You 37 ...38?
@Bishoptheemcee2 жыл бұрын
I was around that age too when it happened.. I was really sad like I lost a family member
@Melasvasapelar2 жыл бұрын
You guys were playing with barbies homie
@Bishoptheemcee2 жыл бұрын
@@Melasvasapelar no sir... too busy tryna emulate what I seen in rap videos and running up and down the streets...
@1deep4992 жыл бұрын
@@claytonprice9137 37
@mindovermatter14622 жыл бұрын
This Woman Still Pretty After All These Years.
@TheGovernment2 жыл бұрын
I need her IG
@MrOutlawz282 жыл бұрын
That's a mf'n fact
@CMG8102 жыл бұрын
Yeah she is
@AlienXpress992 жыл бұрын
Yup. Just imagine what she looked like 26 years ago. 🔥🔥🔥
@Jason.cbr1000rr2 жыл бұрын
i thought she lying abd embellishing them stories? 🤷♂️
@Panther-2 жыл бұрын
Damn u can honestly feel the emotions from this woman...I never met Pac or seen him and even listening to this nearly brought a tear to my eye man, we lost someone special in that dude man
@Jason.cbr1000rr2 жыл бұрын
Really i thought she lying abd embellishing them stories? 🤷♂️
@earnestinecole40302 жыл бұрын
"Tupac dead as freak my woe. Nothing else to it,know he was a god, a lord, great. But he gone on." The Michael Jackson
@thaddminnisota44622 жыл бұрын
She snuck that shot at Faith 😂😂
@tonystarks57372 жыл бұрын
This is sad😔😔Great interview. Respect to both of you for this piece.
@MrCoughupalung2 жыл бұрын
The power of PAC.... Haters going to fan tribute channels on YT to spread hate. LOVE AND MISS 2PAC!
@earnestinecole40302 жыл бұрын
"Tupac was a god. He will always have power, he was a great man." The Michael Jackson
@3rdGenerationCancer2 жыл бұрын
Pac was bitchmade
@shangtatum13952 жыл бұрын
She still beautiful God bless her
@dianaking18072 жыл бұрын
Cap
@shangtatum13952 жыл бұрын
@@dianaking1807 no cap here she still looks good
@dianaking18072 жыл бұрын
@@shangtatum1395 do she?
@shangtatum13952 жыл бұрын
@@dianaking1807 fck yeah
@chan2009ify2 жыл бұрын
@@shangtatum1395 I disagree
@doobzthechamp31342 жыл бұрын
I WASNT A PAC FAN…BUT LET ME SAY THIS….THE DUDE KNEW HOW TO PICK EM. SHE A REAL BK CHICK AND IF SHE BADD LIKE THIS NOW, JUST IMAGINE HOW SHE WAS THEN. SHE SAID THE REALEST SHIT THAT EVERYBODY TRIES NOT TO. 2:20
@YOUNG4EVERYOUNG2 жыл бұрын
How could one not be a pac fan... no Pac = no biggie. No ,biggie= no jay z. No jay z = no Kanye west. No Kanye west = no Drake. Etc... Tupac Shakur thee 🐐 #ysnd
@bklynlive302 жыл бұрын
@@YOUNG4EVERYOUNG 🧢
@YOUNG4EVERYOUNG2 жыл бұрын
@@bklynlive30 🚫🧢
@marionnichols74422 жыл бұрын
Seeing this hurt me allover again,i will never forget the day that 2pac died,fucked my weekend up R.i.p Pac
@Nda54Gem2 жыл бұрын
Still after all these years..the hurt is there.💔 I lived in Long Island at the time and both his and Biggies death’s brought such a sad cloud in the atmosphere everywhere you went. People really Zombied out for awhile.
@marionnichols74422 жыл бұрын
@@Nda54Gem exactly i was 16 when they both passed,but when pac died fucked the world up,i didn't evan want to go to the high school football game that night i just laid around hoping that it wasn't true..
@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson88622 жыл бұрын
Pac f'd up by fking with the wrong one 💯
@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson88622 жыл бұрын
@@marionnichols7442 i hosted a private party at 662 celebrating pac gettin his thug life card revoked by a crip lol
@marionnichols74422 жыл бұрын
@Ms Penny Isaac they was 2 different people,the beef made biggie a much more bigger artist,this discussion is about pac and how he is still relative until this day
@bigshotcampo2 жыл бұрын
“Who do u believe in” is my Shit
@YaYa_14352 жыл бұрын
Desiree your interviews are legendary!!!
@j-m-e44782 жыл бұрын
I feel so sad for her. I know Tupac had a lot of relationships but it really does feel like this was Pac's main girl. Pac has been my fav music artist since before he died so I watch all these interviews and soak up all the info I can and this is the first time I'm hearing a lot of this info. Been wondering about some of this for over 20 years. Thank you so much for sharing 🙏
@chan2009ify2 жыл бұрын
LMAO!! This woman was never Tupac's "main girl" she was nothing but an underaged groupie who would occasionally sleep with Tupac on and off whenever he was in NY
@TheEmpireStrikes742 жыл бұрын
Nah Pac was married to a chick named Kiesha while he was in prison and not her..Even though she was fucking with Pac...Pac had a bunch of Bitches..(.Jasmine Guy,, Sallie Richardson, Adina Howard, Whitney Houston ( cheated with him),Heather Hunter etc..).. Straight up..I think she lying and embellishing on alot of this..Sorry..She was not at the hospital, no one ever talks about her being at the hospital..And Pac was engaged to Quincy Jones Daughter at the time and she was with him in Vegas.. Afeni had Danny Boy to sing right before Pac passed..Also Afeni took him off of Life Support.. I don't beleive her on that..
@shenyaet27552 жыл бұрын
She was a side chick who knew he had a wife. What is wrong with you sir?
@s7bandzyt1842 жыл бұрын
@@shenyaet2755 side chicks can be main girls fool
@shenyaet27552 жыл бұрын
@@s7bandzyt184 Lmao well she was groupie idiot 🤣🤣🤣
@Erick-5292 жыл бұрын
the best rapper in history left forever
@abubakarsadiq68802 жыл бұрын
Menh!!! U can see and feel the love ❤️ she still has for the man!
@JeebyTube2 жыл бұрын
Brah pac was only 25 that shit is crazy he gave me 30-32 vibes
@la19fit682 жыл бұрын
@Ms Penny Isaac biggie was acting like the private school chris
@alexfp59802 жыл бұрын
@Ms Penny Isaac God forbid Tupac’s mom a single black woman trying to push Tupac to be himself and find himself by going into the arts. People like u are the reason why ppl like pac turned to the streets.
@universalconquest44472 жыл бұрын
Everyone was more mature back in the 90s and 80s. Society got dumbed down after 2000,.
@mspennyisaac2 жыл бұрын
@Ms Penny Isaac you’re really weird for stealing my name and picture to slander Tupac. 🤣🤣🤣
@lorihutton47192 жыл бұрын
He was such a wise man plus the subjects he spoke on. He was way beyond his years. Maybe that's why he seemed older to you. Sad to see anyone go this young especially one that touched us all so deeply. You have a great afternoon.
@algoriithmtheproducer2 жыл бұрын
Cam Capone always talks like he's interviewing people by talking through a toilet paper roll
@Altruist-ambitions2 жыл бұрын
ahahhahahahahahhahhaha
@safiesekgwa19332 жыл бұрын
This Woman is definitely still hurting from the loss of Pac. I think she genuinely loved Pac. That drink she's having says it all.
@805oxnardsocal2 жыл бұрын
I was like 13 when pac died I remember every hip hop radio station playing tupacs music for days and then when biggie died that shit was crazy. Rip to both legends
@t.jcooper90952 жыл бұрын
I remember him I was 2 yes old when died I used to always listen to him all the time I even went to the House of blues when I was one years old I seen him i’ll never Forget him ✊🏿✊🏿
@chrisrobinson83392 жыл бұрын
Damn. This tragedy still saddens me.
@Candycane6782 жыл бұрын
Be looking forward to Desiree on Dialogue 💯
@calioumarx42892 жыл бұрын
Capone high tone killing this interview
@samj4582 жыл бұрын
There's something off about afeni . She pulled the plug when he could of possibly got resuscitated , straight away started dealing wirh his finances and also is gambling when he's in hospital
@LK0962 жыл бұрын
I always felt like that was weird…. But pac would had never been the same again with one lung it’s better he died. Afeni seemed money hungry though…
@AssassinKing302 жыл бұрын
I believe Afeni sacrificed PAC to avoid that jail time when she was fighting that case, ijs people don't bring that up much
@MrBean6172 жыл бұрын
No. They revived him 4 or 5 times and she told them to stop. Clearly, he was letting go.
@MrBean6172 жыл бұрын
@Ms Penny Isaac When your body is shutting down, there’s nothing that a machine can do…
@msfergie58512 жыл бұрын
I haven't heard anyone say this, but this lady.
@generalsmith62572 жыл бұрын
Thats a loyal chic that deserve royal treatment
@chan2009ify2 жыл бұрын
Stop with the nose
@brandonaykes99432 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite pac songs who do I believe in
@brianpayne75832 жыл бұрын
Anyone who ever sat next 2 someone hospital bed , at some point u or another person will try an talkone another into having a break or getting out the room for a while. I been there and it makes sense to me
@scottylafuegofuentez59312 жыл бұрын
Yooooo this man got an interview with Desiree smith… this is huge 💯💯💯💯
@alvinsquezz Жыл бұрын
What’s huge about talking to a 3o4? Hmmm
@donvisn2 жыл бұрын
Spent a lot of time in the bedroom so y you ain’t have his kid damn we could of had a lil pac alive
@rustyjames66222 жыл бұрын
sounds like pac would have been in a less severe teddy pendegrass situation. only God knows what afeni was going through winning & losing at the same time. for those not around that time or not following hiphop it was so gangsta.
@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson88622 жыл бұрын
Well afeni should've did better and raised pac to be straight and calm
@martyrx34362 жыл бұрын
@Ms Penny Isaac You’re a grown woman and you’re making gay jokes about a dead man. Sad life…
@martyrx34362 жыл бұрын
@Ms Penny Isaac Sad life…
@mspennyisaac2 жыл бұрын
@Ms Penny Isaac you’re really weird for stealing my name and picture to slander Tupac. 🤣🤣🤣
@MrZoodmacc2 жыл бұрын
Pac Had a Great Taste in Women!!!!!! She is Beautiful... #nothirst
@lamareparker67972 жыл бұрын
It's easy when 9 out of 10 women u want u can have lol or maybe all 10 knowing this dude
@dianaking18072 жыл бұрын
She mostly a 5
@valeece54312 жыл бұрын
@@dianaking1807 she’s also aged since the 90s so I’d expect her to go down in ratings but I’m sure back then she was cold
@dianaking18072 жыл бұрын
@@valeece5431 I've seen her younger pics, she wasn't ugly but basic looking indeed.
@chan2009ify2 жыл бұрын
@@dianaking1807 very basic looking
@eddiesoul48902 жыл бұрын
She should have told Faith that same thing...As a matter of fact She was talking about Faith...
@SoundBiteInc-2 жыл бұрын
She had a flashbacks to him smashing her at the beginning
@OmarScruggs2 жыл бұрын
Facts!
@mspennyisaac2 жыл бұрын
@Ms Penny Isaac you’re really weird for stealing my name and picture to slander Tupac. 🤣🤣🤣
@TheRemnantvideo12 жыл бұрын
@Ms Penny Isaac this is what I call starving for attention!! Smh
@donnmogul2 жыл бұрын
LIKE FINE WINE IN TIME SHES SO BEAUTIFUL EVEN MORE THEN WHEN SHE WAS YOUNGER MOGUL......
@chan2009ify2 жыл бұрын
Lies
@TheGovernment2 жыл бұрын
"Any celebrities come see him in the hospital?" Snoop cool, Mc Hammer cool, but Adina Howard???? Hold up fam lol.
@williealexander6959 Жыл бұрын
Desiree seem like she was that Ride or Die Chick...
@ICONCLOTHES2 жыл бұрын
Who Do You Believe in.... #classic 💯
@isiahspencer87242 жыл бұрын
That's what's up she stayed loyal to Pac
@joryscott19602 жыл бұрын
Beautiful ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@Livinglifeandniners2 жыл бұрын
His body was swollen, from all the medication he was. He's body went through a lot of trauma. God, i think rescued Pac and freed his spirit from this earth. God, bless his soul.
@TrizzleTV2 жыл бұрын
Your body swells from the lead inside of bullets as well
@marlonglanton43722 жыл бұрын
Damn everybody tried to Holla
@mina13742 жыл бұрын
Dont know how old she is but she looks good 😍
@alexibarra34722 жыл бұрын
She’s gotta be at least 45
@chan2009ify2 жыл бұрын
@@alexibarra3472 and looks every bit of it
@Rich-km7pr2 жыл бұрын
2:20 a shot at Faith lool.
@fazeorocksfazeorocks69562 жыл бұрын
Y'all think about what you Saying!! End of the day!! That was his Mom's!! Nobody know what that Man wanted or told his Momma but him and MOMZ!! Don't care what this Lady says!! RT
@austinwilkes98512 жыл бұрын
Who do u believe in is CLASSIC
@flintmichigan16792 жыл бұрын
I believe she lost her king which is 2pac and she still hurt about it
@jayd4ever2 жыл бұрын
tupac had many girls he was a player not a loyal man
@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson88622 жыл бұрын
Tupac was the queen of actin all studio gangster 🤣💯
@martyrx34362 жыл бұрын
@Ms Penny Isaac No lol.
@mspennyisaac2 жыл бұрын
@Ms Penny Isaac you’re really weird for stealing my name and picture to slander Tupac. 🤣🤣🤣
@chan2009ify2 жыл бұрын
@@mspennyisaac 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I just clocked, wow that's terrible
@MrZamiro9992 жыл бұрын
Real true good woman!
@reggiekaz41472 жыл бұрын
@4:38 duh. Was she supposed to welcome you with open arms? Her direct competition? Come on now.
@dianaking18072 жыл бұрын
She's lying, she wasn't even in the room
@SheM122 Жыл бұрын
What social media
@thekorsh42302 жыл бұрын
Who do you believe in that's one of my favorite tracks from 2 pac and the outlaws especially Kadaffi verse
@brucewaynetumbla44762 жыл бұрын
She was loyal to Pac unlike Faith 😄🙌
@raheem88582 жыл бұрын
I wish people would stop saying Pac died. Pac would've made it with therapy. His mother pulled the plug on him.
@JaeRocReacts2 жыл бұрын
she gives me wife vibes 🤷🏾♂️💯 just sayin ..
@JeebyTube2 жыл бұрын
It be like that early 20s y’all friends then once you mature you realize she the one for you , unfortunately pac didn’t get a chance to reach 30
@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson88622 жыл бұрын
You not even her type you keyboard SIMPson 🤣🤡💯
@JaeRocReacts2 жыл бұрын
@@JeebyTube thats real facts 💯💯 you can tell she really was down for Pac
@dianaking18072 жыл бұрын
U get any type of vibes when u a simp
@dianaking18072 жыл бұрын
@@JeebyTube pac was moving onto better thangs, he didn't need a underage groupie in his life
@sedglislim17932 жыл бұрын
Pac had a million women.
@Frenchy.2 жыл бұрын
You can tell she ain't lying about nothing. Who do you believe in, is such a wonderful song, like she stated from Jamiroquai's Manifest Destiny
@alvinsquezz Жыл бұрын
She straight up lying. Don’t believe these modern females when it comes to celebrities issues.
@solomnpennix92772 жыл бұрын
she real you can tell
@msfergie58512 жыл бұрын
Why would you still not want to see him no matter how they said he would pull through??!!? That's weird to come there and not lay eyes on your man's 🤨
@alonzosmith4852 жыл бұрын
She explained why
@msfergie58512 жыл бұрын
@@alonzosmith485 Oh yeah, I totally missed that BS
@JaeRocReacts2 жыл бұрын
so Afeni was at the Casino gambling while Pac in the hospital fightin for his life? thats kinda wild to me ..
@LK0962 жыл бұрын
That’s actually fucked…
@datniggaeazye.59682 жыл бұрын
@@LK096 don't judge everyone thought he was gonna pull through she more than likely just did it to keep her mind off of it
@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson88622 жыл бұрын
I was a child there with my dad and we bet that pac wouldn't make it to the year 1997 🤣
@mspennyisaac2 жыл бұрын
@Ms Penny Isaac you’re really a weirdo for stealing my name & picture to slander Tupac 🤣🤣🤣
@ashtonkusher95022 жыл бұрын
@@mspennyisaac Thank God you found this goofy 🤣🤣🤣
@-XKHAN-2 жыл бұрын
If he died in the hospital, someone did something they ain't have no business 2, something caused the cardiac arrest, the bullet only damaged his lung, I'm under the impression someone finished the job
@Altruist-ambitions2 жыл бұрын
my thoughts exactly
@SuperJimmielee2 жыл бұрын
Kidada was hanging with pacs enemies partying.
@phil1980boy2 жыл бұрын
I see why 2Pac loved this women. She looks Amazing!!!
@richardpolk58392 жыл бұрын
How many ppl think that box gd
@chan2009ify2 жыл бұрын
Ew
@richardpolk58392 жыл бұрын
@@chan2009ify ew what
@chan2009ify2 жыл бұрын
@@richardpolk5839 gross
@richardpolk58392 жыл бұрын
@@chan2009ify how u got one too
@sickwidit87862 жыл бұрын
So tupac! Was in critical condition and his mom was playing slots!! 🤔🤣 Tupac Lived On💯💯 Stop playing people. . " Right between Yours Eyes And You won't Realize " Realize What You Can't See" Tupac Said it!!!!
@longisland51612 жыл бұрын
Man someone fine her insta
@WeThePeepHole3332 жыл бұрын
Jamiroquai is @StevieWonders Grandson!!!
@chizi51492 жыл бұрын
Mr.Makaveli 👑
@alvinsquezz Жыл бұрын
Biggie was like.. Dayuuummmm wanna called you over?!?! Please stop lying and acting Hollywood on Biggie’ name. He never saw just shutttt upppp Miss 3o4. The big poppa got too much taste to even look at her back then. Foo| yourself Gurl, not me.
@Viralcitycharm2 жыл бұрын
Big wanted get back lol pac had it locked tho
@karenbaker18552 жыл бұрын
❤
@tporter5002 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was a test sweetheart, and you passed. So many females be failing that test. Soon as I get home
@laurensmith68722 жыл бұрын
He lost a lung and they really thought he was gonna make it through?
@LucidStrike2 жыл бұрын
It's actually possible to live a pretty normal life with just 1 lung. Not as good as 2 lungs, sure, but yeah. It's amazing the things bodies can sometimes survive. 🤷🏿♂️
@jasontoussaint10812 жыл бұрын
She frontin..she got in that car with biggie
@seanholmes51732 жыл бұрын
😭😭😭
@octm12 жыл бұрын
LMFAO
@Darkskinnded2 жыл бұрын
I picture the Robert Denorio scene with Karen in Goodfellas lol “No thanks Big I gotta go see my mother”
@tonyfoster72102 жыл бұрын
See there that ain't the 1st time I've heard he was getting better . He may could have been resuscitated but the mom called it off cause his heart stopped. Woo. Heard he was fighting for his life too. With all the circumstances. Wonder if that played a part in her decision. 🤔
@jgood40102 жыл бұрын
Pac most def had a type
@la19fit682 жыл бұрын
Not really
@theconsigliere63292 жыл бұрын
Haven't heard of anyone living with one lung... Would it be the same energetic Pac after that? I'm a Biggie but I would rather have a PAC alive with one lung that dead. Even if Biggie would die 6 months later. We would still have Pac. I still avoid seriously thinking about both of them gone, it fucks me up.
@gatorsity2 жыл бұрын
My little sister has one lung and you would never know by how she lives her life, I think in time Pac would’ve been just fine and just as energetic as he always was.
@Darkskinnded2 жыл бұрын
Think about Beanie Siegel….. It don’t hit the same to me
@theconsigliere63292 жыл бұрын
@@gatorsity thank you for sharing that brother I am really enlightened. I wish your sister a long fulfilled life.
@justicebolton48442 жыл бұрын
She is real af know wonder 2pac love ❤️ her.
@keepitreal49372 жыл бұрын
Soulmates
@FlyAwayChi2 жыл бұрын
Of course Kidada was unfriendly to you, you were in love with her fiance smh
@dianaking18072 жыл бұрын
U actually believe she met kidada? That girl was nowhere in that room, its crazy how nobody mentions her being in that room but yet she keeps saying she was in there.
@FlyAwayChi2 жыл бұрын
@@dianaking1807 Lol
@bjc42042 жыл бұрын
@@dianaking1807 She's not lying. She was absolutely there.
@bjc42042 жыл бұрын
Tupac and Kidada were not engaged. She lied and so did her dad. Tupac talked about marriage only as a ploy to USE HER FATHER. He never bought her a ring nor did he propose. Look at her finger while Pac were still alive, NO RING EVER. Pac was still in love with Keisha Shakur and he was still with her in every way. He took care of her and spent time with her. The man had 1000000000 women that he was involved with. Read his bodyguards book and listen to anyone's interview that was around in 96. Pac was promising Keisha that they'd get back together as soon as he gets in a better position. Kidada was a damn pawn, that's all.
@dianaking18072 жыл бұрын
@@bjc4204 it's cap, no one mentions her being in that room, his mother and auntie and half of the outlaws literally named people that were in there and her name is never mentioned. If his family was fond of her like she says 🙄 then they would/would've named her countless times.
@SevenNine0792 жыл бұрын
#Respect
@OmarScruggs2 жыл бұрын
Loooove Jamiroquai!!
@Diabeticliving3302 жыл бұрын
She look like 25. She beautiful
@dianaking18072 жыл бұрын
Cap
@Diabeticliving3302 жыл бұрын
@@dianaking1807 lmao ok she look 30 but she gotta be bout 50
@chan2009ify2 жыл бұрын
Are you people are blind or are y'all just saying these things because she's light skinned? She definitely doesn't look younger that 46
@arturomcdowell14512 жыл бұрын
She’s truly a gem! Loved the shot at Faith, let’s you know Dez is a real woman not like Faith lying ass 🤣. Dez really loved Pac. RIP 🙏🏽🕊
@marohan2 жыл бұрын
I don't know about you, bit I wouldn't never want my women pouring their heart out on the next man. I know she loved again.
@bmaine77722 жыл бұрын
Seem like his death was partly on the hospital
@lamontaroper13652 жыл бұрын
Why did Afeni pull the plug on Pac?🤔
@SHOTTAeastcoast Жыл бұрын
Watching these interviews, i wonder if the men these women date or marry ever get insecure when they found out Pac hit
@robertwilliamson25962 жыл бұрын
Let me ask you this Tupac is doing that bad why would his mom be at casino playing slot machine .it don't make sense.tupac didn't get shot or lose his finger.
@alonzosmith4852 жыл бұрын
Lost a finger and lung. Keep her mind of her son..to relax
@partyanimals23192 жыл бұрын
beautiful lady
@bobbymarsh12 жыл бұрын
he lost a finger got shot several times then wtf was the blood from the shooting, this car should've been littered with blood as well as his clothes
@JahDon-m8i2 ай бұрын
I bet she’s making up stories , you call tell how she keeps looking away from the camera when she speaking smh
@jeremiahwoods70772 жыл бұрын
Unlike some other people ie Faitharoonie😂
@BasementVinyL852 жыл бұрын
Myyy myyy myyyy.. like Johnnie Gill..
@cedrickmcdonald50382 жыл бұрын
Dam which woman wasn't at the hospital
@caliortiz1182 жыл бұрын
that's that Powder i'm telling you she will Go lol
@VTmaida Жыл бұрын
she's hella petty. Definitely not main chick material.
@peakefeatures41032 жыл бұрын
ok what about his WIFE tho lol
@brandonaykes99432 жыл бұрын
She a real one
@maysummer64692 жыл бұрын
Desiree is an old bird who was just a part of his rotation. Typical round the way young girl with no guidance or supervision.
@brianbrowne93852 жыл бұрын
Shout 2Gene Deal
@ThaRealERAQ2 жыл бұрын
Didn't that weirdo Danny boy try to say snoop didn't come??
@danaray90352 жыл бұрын
I’m a die hard pac fan always will be. Wow he was smashing a lot of women
@VSmoothTwentyTwo2 жыл бұрын
I think she thru a sub at faith lol because she slept wit pac during the beef