$200 Honda Sat Outside For 30 Years. Can It Be Saved?

[@sebrandomstuff]

I have to tell you, I was suffering in this one. It's a perfect rebuildable bike. It has two seized pistons only. With a little bit of patience and time, the motorcycle could be tunning. It's a piece of history and it seemed to be 100% factory original. A rare thing these days. The hammering on the pistones made me look to one side. No need for that. I understand that you probably don't have the time to deal with that rusted bike, but many of us would love to have that bike that you will send to the scrape yard. Dont get me wrong, I love your channel, but on this one... I don't agree. She only needed some love.

[@austinlinder98]

100% agree. I've brought bikes back from the grave worse than this. Definitely takes a lot of patience but it could have been saved it really wasn't that bad besides the cylinders.

[@rm25088]

yeah a stuck motor isn't a big deal. Soak it for a few days and work at it. It will unstick just fine.

[@talltom1129]

Yep,as soon as I see a claw hammer I know I'm about to witness some amateur hackery. What a waste of time watching this

[@rm25088]

@@talltom1129 the good ol' claw hammer lol

[@bigsteve8408]

If it was a collectable bike that would be one thing, but they made millions of these, yes, you might be able to restore it. But would it be worth the time and money that would take? Mabe, Maybe not.

[@kernelbadness]

Heat the cylinder and tap pistons using a wood block may work. That hammer though 👌 😳

[@grahamgault8010]

yip , blow torch to the pistons an that will let go .

[@jeffcoleman7019]

Those Hondas are a rock

[@davebarrowcliffe1289]

First job: Engine straight out and on the bench. ☺ 👍

[@RealSuburbanCowboy]

Dude, send some of those parts down to me. I will vapor blast them for free.

[@christophertownley6734]

Be good to see if he can restore it

[@Fumacenta2tempos]

He always show he is rich, you can charge

[@lynnh7694]

Vapor blast?

[@RealSuburbanCowboy]

@@lynnh7694 yes, clean those parts so they look like new and can be sold.

[@RealSuburbanCowboy]

@@Fumacenta2tempos support for his channel.

[@briancrull8678]

Just did a 350 cl Simple design It’s a Honda !!

[@petebuttons210]

These old bikes that have been lying outside for years make the best can it be saved videos.

[@jeremyTallen1]

This is easily turning into my favorite build!!!!! (EDIT) dang it I just made it to the end and you are scrapping it. If it has a title I would say it is worth saving.

[@theservant752]

Didn't he just have one that run with no title? swap the frame for the one that has the title, isn't that the obvious thing to do?

[@Fearborne]

No key, no title Tis why I didn't buy it

[@jeremyTallen1]

I have done a few bikes in this condition. I have found that the best option is to just strip it down to the frame and send it and other parts that can be powder coated straight to the shop. Soak the whole bike with PB Blaster for a few days before you tear into it. I have a manufacturing place in my small town. For a little over a $100 they strip the whole frame and powder coat it. It's called midstate. They specialize in large quantities of parts like brackets etc. They just fit the frame in the assembly line. For a basic color like black it is so cheap it is not worth the time or amount of money it would take me to do it myself. I had them do a couple RM 125 frames powder coated in Safety yellow that remarkably resembles Suzuki Yellow. They even had a blue for pre 89 Suzuki frame I had done. Just an idea to look into large manufacturers in the area for cheap and quality powder coating. Also bidding on cheap bolt lots for the bike on eBay is a great way to accumulate bolts.

[@philherrick7319]

Right??? Might have been considerably easier after liberal application(s) of PB Blaster I couldn't watch the hammering on the piston.

[@garywinterbottom6073]

My advice before undoing any fastening soak in wd40 or similar at least an hour beforehand. Then you diminish the chance of breaking or shearing studs etc etc.

[@zman4150]

You gave up way too easy on this one. It was outside for 30 years - of course it's going to be rough! Mustie1 had one just like that & it too was siezed. He made a great series out of that bike by rustoring it...

[@LNERMallard]

There are plenty of other running CB350's in much better condition that need parts donors. Losing one rust bucket like this isn't the end of the world.

[@bradwinter156]

I watched that video all the way to the field.

[@patrickrooney5130]

I agree with you give up to easily. I watch your chanll all the time. Mustie1

[@jamesandrewdixon8766]

Well it junk

[@Steven9675]

Yes, yes i am , why wiuld u buy that. Even if free i would question the value :)

[@kenjohnson5498]

had an impact screwdriver like that, was doing a small concrete job in my yard and told my son to use the cold chisel to clean up the edge of the pour. When i went to check after an hour wondering what was taking so long I saw my son with my impact screwdriver and a hammer chipping the edge of the concrete off 😆. In his defense it did a decent job lol

[@2vintage]

Hahaha

[@davebarrowcliffe1289]

Heat the jug, loads of WD40 on the pistons then drive a wooden wedge in between the jug and the engine body to get the jug off...

[@Poppinwheeeeellllllieeeeez]

I restore these all the time. First thing I do is wash it and inspect it while cleaning it. That way when your working on it, the process is much more enjoyable. No mouse piss or droppings....dirt...etc. Points, condensers, carb kits, battery, fuel filter, fuel line.

[@paulcrockford9845]

Engine out job,that would free up by leaving diesel in the barrels for a week,,drain apply some heat to the barrels,penetrating oil to the pistons,it smokes well doing it,gentle pressure,it will free off...patience needed

[@zachrobibson784]

Man that’s a cool lookin bike even tho it’s in bad shape keep up the good work

[@chrismays7455]

That's crazy how good of shape the seat is

[@2vintage]

Yeah everything else is horrible. I don't get that haha

[@noostNL]

Well, nobody sat on it for 30 years 🤣

[@mikeleblanc2933]

Worth good $ restored..........seen one go for 10 000 $ at auction

[@edwardmulder3777]

Next time u get a very rusted seized engine use the old vinegar down the cylinder holes and soak for 1 _ 2 days, other vids out there show it works , eg Puddins Fab Shop

[@jackbeanstock7710]

i love these street bike videos, you have done a million dirt bikes, move on to more road bike content ! its a fresh direction

[@jankarlsson118]

Scrapyard??! You must be joking!!? Its a perfect bike with all parts ready for restauration! Just remove everything and have the frame sand blasted and either paint or powder coat it. Engine is easy to fix too as parts are readily easy to come by.

[@jeffward9174]

Personally I would have persevered. I've unseized several pistons. I would have applied some heat to the barrels. I've had a lot of seized motors in my 51 years. I've never scraped a bike yet.. if I had it I'm sure I'd get it running. Its still a lovely little bike.

[@sandmanbub]

That tool kit is a great score. Better put a GPS locator on that ten millimeter wrench before it grows legs lol

[@purpleether5405]

what is special about a 10mm?

[@richb8282]

“Well, at least it does shift into gear… but you gotta use a hammer to do it” 😂 too funny

[@Builditathome-Restoration]

Awesome video these kind of condition bikes are the best videos. I had an xr250 in last build series also a big project

[@SinnerSince1962]

I applaud you for taking on a restoration like this. Man, for me, that's just too much. I have been amazed at the condition that some people resurrect. I'm actually envious!

[@craigbowley6783]

There's a you tube channel called the lock noob. He shows how to pick any lock ever made. Even ignitions

[@leewaken5059]

Well, that was fun! The impact driver is your best friend. Many less striped out phillips heads will follow if employed.

[@davebarrowcliffe1289]

22:45.... Told ya.... 😂 Engine OUT!!! Listen to yer English uncle!

[@michaelconnerlone5668]

Hey Joe, those are the original tools, HM stands for Honda Motor, old school! Keep up the good work man

[@codyfranklin2305]

Yeah and just a FYI sometimes the tool kits r so rare they cost $500 for oems if u can find them. That one wrench also not for the spark plug ITS FOR THE AXLE CAUSE U GET FLAT U CAN CHANGE TUBE!! ALL MY PROJECTS R LIKE THIS!! take ur time stop and think about it for a min but don’t give up. When u do something like these projects it REALLY PROVES UR MECHANIC LEVEL AND THAT UR A MASTER MECHANIC!! @2vintage ALSO DONT FORGET U GOT A KICK STARTER ALSO!!! USE WOOD UNDER CYLINDER USE HEAT WOOD HAMMER HIT IT AND USE FOOT TO KICK/PUT UR WEIGHT ON IT IT COMES FREE ACETONE AND ATF 50-50 mix BEST RUST BREAKER PEN FLUID GOOD LUCK BRO

[@rockbay79]

From time-to-time, when I buy one of these rust queens, I always just spray the entire bike down with penetrating oil before I attempt to remove anything. Makes life easier!

[@goldenscales]

It really grinds my gears to see motorcycles treated in such a despicable manner! That bike is one hell of a candidate for resurrection!

[@sendit1158]

Should fire right up, its a Honda 31:48 love when you pull out the impact driver, ill take credit for that, i noticed you got one after i mentioned it to you a year or 2 ago, your welcome Joe lol

[@troyrosenbaugh9935]

Best way is to pull motor out, sucks but it's a fact. Bet valves are solid to head, easier to fix on the bench, great job bud..

[@1BIGFROGGY]

It'd be really great to see you do a ground up resto series on this little beauty! Please consider it? 🏍🏍🏍

[@90zzz09]

its a parts bike

[@kzoo4053]

The Motorcycle Classics magazine did have a long complete series on that, about 2 or 3 years ago.

[@michaelbrinks8089]

I learned the hard way after many stripped Phillips head screws that JIS (Japanese Industrial Standard) screws & screwdrivers are different from standard American Phillips head screws & screwdrivers. I have a stuck piston in a lawnboy 2 stroke, I poured penetrating oil the spark plug hole & filled the cylinder all the way up. The piston was close to TDC covering the exhaust hole. I'm hoping after it soaks for a couple weeks, it'll break free. I'm gonna try a torch like Troy Aldridge mentioned below.

[@sandmanbub]

Found out about the J.I.S. screws back in 79' and ordered a set of J.I.S. screwdrivers. Have to keep them locked up, because everyone seems to want them and it takes a week or more to get them delivered. Haven't found a store that I can walk in to and buy them. Also found J.I.S. bits for my impact driver (the handheld one that requires striking with a hammer) as well as J.I.S. bits for my electric impact driver and drill. Absolutely swear by 'em. Glad to see someone else mentioning them. Cheers :)

[@professorright]

It can be saved and you should save it. Just strip it right down and refinish the frame and build it back up. It would be a cool series. :)

[@nigelnightmare4160]

The revenue and subsequent sale he'd get from it would more than cover the expense of the rebuild, Plus he'd have saved it from the scrap.

[@MrAcoustic09]

Would love to see a complete resto on this classic

[@MrAcoustic09]

@Stephen Woodward I'll give it a look would love to see it here as his skills have progressed so much over the years he's definitely capable

[@edwardmulder3777]

Put some vinegar in the heads let sit 2 days, then pound pistons, if still not moving, heat and lube it

[@glenmiller7294]

Way back in the day, my first touring bike (for me (8>)..was a ’73 CB350. What a great little bike, put many many a mile on it, never gave me a minute’s problem

[@sandmanbub]

If you anticipate more rusty projects in your future (and ours), a media blasting cabinet would come in handy. I bought a huge one from Schwain's Cycle, in Maryland, when they went out of business. I only paid a couple hundred for it and it paid for it's self in less than a week.

[@mattdogg02]

Let's Goooooooo!! Ready for a hardcore project!

[@FoxBodyDale]

Definitely can be saved!

[@preez77]

Don't need the key to open the tank, it will open with a flathead screwdriver. Those locks are for show.

[@82Beatz]

I'm ready to see a Honda 450r rebuilt to the max! Or a SXS that would be equally Awesome! As always great vid Joe.

[@Tipsandtricks9762]

I'm a mobile diesel mechanic and man you need to get you a electric ratchet. They are a life saver. The one from harborfrieght would be better for you it's only 40ft lb of tourqe.

[@Robert-to9zv]

You make the most fascinating mechanic videos. I watch your channel a lot. You have a super great knack for determining what is salvageable. Cheers!

[@ungarsdanslegarage8659]

Ah! It append to me, but it’s part of the game…there is always good parts to use on future projects!

[@cap5996]

I had a few of these in the 70s. Engine out in 10 minutes, just tilt it backwards, top back and bottom forward till the rear mount bracket clears and it slides right out.

[@Kookamungawerewolf]

I think the chrome on the camshaft end covers is practically rust proof. I had a ‘68 CL350 that sat exposed to the weather under a shed for about the same amount of time. The engine exterior was grody but those covers looked like new. Unfortunately it went to the scrappers.

[@shotgunz124]

I like the long videos bud Do more like this 45-60 minutes is great I think

[@lloydbethel252]

Wouldn't think that one would beat you

[@alfiembra]

Next time you have to take an engine that size out lay the bike on its side and lift the frame away from the engine. Disagree that the bike is not worth saving, a bit of patience and perseverance and the barrels would have come off.

[@ghettsumm7949]

When I saw the 46 minute time stamp, I thought that there's no way that thing is running by the end of the video! I have doubts it will even spin in part 1. LoL😃

[@bigtexas940]

40 secs into the video im like "yeah this is going to be a fun one"

[@PongbyAtari]

This puts a whole new meaning to hand forged going to need a sledge instead of a claw lol.

[@justingregory6708]

You need a real hammer 🙊 OMG, claw hammer WTF

[@kzoo4053]

CB350 (325cc) from Honda in 1968. It evolved into CB360. In less than 10 years the total world sales of the two models was approximately 3 million units. It remains the 2nd highest number next to Honda C100 Cub. I bought a 1972 CB 350 over 20 years ago with only 3500 miles on it. It did not ride well and would foul up the plugs so I let it sit inside the house for 18 years. Finally, last year I fixed the problem with the correct plugs, cleaned the carbs, cleaned and polished it up. I was surprised to find it was almost in near mint condition. Listed it on eBay, Cycle trader and finally sold it locally for only $2900. I was surprised no collector was interested and wondered how much it could fetch in an auction. I’d like to keep it but my garage is too full with old bikes waiting to be resurrected.

[@skydiver6711]

I had one just like that one only the gold color. Rode it around in college some, got married in 1973 and took it to Ft. Bragg, NC where I was in the 82nd Airborne. Had to sell it to buy tires for my car. Of all the things I have had that I wish I had back, it is that bike.

[@loganbennett1836]

Definitely should invest in a sandblast machine! Could make these old bikes look brand new again.

[@puanz605]

That's is a nice bike I would rebuild the top end and fix it love old honda I have fixed 2 and 1 was just as bad as this one

[@billdyke9745]

That tool kit will come in handy... 👍

[@gtisid]

that’s a boat anchor, or a very expensive set of blinkers😂😂😂

[@usernamesreprise4068]

The bike is a K4 350, which only came out in late 71 that being the case I would think it must be one of the first k4's, my first brand new bike bought from the dealers and straight off the boat way back in 1973 was a 250 K4, one of the last just before the G5 came in with its fancy upswept exhausts......and not a patch on mine for acceleration or top end due to all the smog detuning and compression lowering they inflicted on it.....especially after as being an apprentice mechanic at the time, I opened out and ported and flowed the head, reamed out and fitted bigger valves and installed a go faster Yoshimura higher lift cam in it - even the infamous Yamaha rd 250 coulnt get away from me...the three cylinder Kawasaki 250 two stroke could pull away from me from a standstill because my cammy engine was a bit down on power at very low revs - but I soon caught up when it came on cam - usually much to the surprise of the rider as try as they might they couldnt distance me, I later fitted the slightly smaller 350 rear sprocket and saw an indicated 102 mph laying over the tank on a long straight road close to home but given natural speedo error was probably more like about 96 to 98 in reality either way it was bloody fast, man I loved that bike. wish I had kept it for all these years I would still be riding her on nice Sundays to this day. mine was a bit unique at the time too, as I professionally re sprayed all her painted bits in a really nice Ford light green metalic and had the black and white tank wings replaced by body shop professional coach lining expert, it looked like it was fresh off the boat from Japan. - it was previously the metalic plum version. You were taking me back to my youth as you started to strip the motor - I used to take mine out and strip and rebuild it about once a month just for the hell of it. I couldnt help myself I was sitting there shouting at the screen - take the WHOLE damn engine out at once THEN take the two side covers off either side of the head to get the cam out leaving the sprocket and chain sitting on the tensioner bar THEN you can get the head off once its out of the frame ! - even the starter motor can be left on until after the motor is out. To get those barrels off you should have used six triangular wooden chocks carefully hammered in underneath between the barrels and the crank case bit by bit while using a hammer SHAFT NOT its bloody striking face to gently tap each piston down as you carefully hammered more pressure into the chocks leaving them sitting in penetrating oil, no piston is ever too seized that you cant get it out using this method, done carefully and with a light honing of the bores they would ever likely have been fine , also even the pistons would have ever likely been reusable once cleaned and polished up, such a shame.

[@basicamericanliving6017]

These kind of bikes are sweet. It would be cool to see you get it running.

[@lompulofu3646]

i love this type of hondas keep it up :)

[@skydiver6711]

Can't win them all. But that Honda 350 CB is one of the most sought after bikes of them all. I had a 72 model, bought it brand new for $725. It was a great bike and I wish I had it back.

[@troyrosenbaugh9935]

Toss those screws chase threads and put 8mm headed bolts, no more issues. Painful to watch you get them sockets out, I know the pain. Got smart and switched to bolts all my regular customers got them free cause I know I'll be seeing their broken messes again and again.

[@jerryfarmer5989]

Well I paid $600.00 for my '78 Suzuki GS750E over 30 years ago. The bike was laying down behind a garage uncovered when I found it. the guy I bought from told me a friend of his went to prison and gave him the bike to take care of with the title. Had to file for lost title. It was not on good shape at all. 4 cans of carb clean to get the carbs moving. Got it running and about 2 weeks later I rode about 700 miles round trip across Utah and back. Still have it and it still runs as strong as new.

[@joedeckinflyover]

the toolkit is a score !

[@Fearborne]

Dude! I was literally looking at this bike yesterday. I was just about to buy it, too. Glad to see that you got ahold of it, atleast.

[@Fearborne]

I thought the license plate said 2002. Guy said that the tank was sealed and the carbs were clean.

[@grayfool]

Poor little Honda.

[@daveminer9217]

There are some salable parts left. For example...I'd go $30.00 for that headlamp housing assembly. The frame is worth saving too. Anyone doing a full restore could blast and paint that frame if they had a damaged one. They dont make then anymore. Same with the pegs, and centerstand, kickstand etc.common items that get bent, sprung or mangled.

[@cannonmead2766]

I enjoy watching your videos and I understand the amount of effort that goes into it. Thank you for the content. Ps.Get a rubber mallet!

[@deanhull8480]

He used a rubber mallet to take the heads off I think

[@grahamritchie8118]

Oh wow what a job you've taken on, back in the day this would have been some ones pride and joy.and been a very desirable bike i wish you the best of luck bringing this poor old lady back to life very much looking forward to future videos on this bike. I just heard the sad and bad news but unfortunately you're right this poor old girl has had it.

[@finster7582]

Joe- i think ur wrong..at least get it running n sell it to someone who will restore it..that bike is complete! 😃👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@gabrielhenderson6206]

Classic Hondas looks so good when you restore them my boss has the same bike in this video

[@tommarkham7760]

I've road a (lot) miles on one of them pretty tough bike's

[@craigbowley6783]

I'm pretty sure the seat tips up but pushing the lever alone won't do it you have to actually pull up on the seat.

[@troyrosenbaugh9935]

Tip/ 3/8 impact with Phillips bit. After impact driver, easy peasy!

[@pauldoucette7627]

$200.00 for well needed set of parts for cb360 is a pretty good deal. Decent tires..signal lights..fenders if their fixable..the seat looks good. Air filters and side covers are good. I was so relieved when you said you were scrapping it. :) Not worth fixing at all. Nice channel. Watch all the time.

[@johnfuchs3264]

It just hurts my heart to see someone who knows way less than I do about these old 70s Honda street bikes I used to buy them and fix them up to in the early 1980s . You just go at it with the wrong perspective. The main thing to do on any of them not running is to see if the most important part is any good and that's the engine without out that the rest of it is just parts or junk . Don't worry about fixing the carburetors if the engine is questionable , don't worry about fixing any one thing on there but the engine first , you get that fixed first then it's worth fixing all the other things around it .

[@edernster2252]

Hey my pop had the same bike same year. I'm 55 He laid it down with me on the back. I was about 7 r 8. Drunk ass, good times. Same color and state. Rochester MN. Look forward for your posts e:every week. Thank you. Vinnie is cool as well.

[@wsbill14224]

It's better to find one in decent shape but the CB350 is one of the best bikes ever made. It is cheap and reliable and it performs well. It goes over 90 MPH and that should be fast enough.

[@georgetidball3045]

Naval jelly Works real good to dissolve rust you can usually get it auto parts stores brush it on and let it set a while hose the rust off with water keys are easy to get a replacement I believe all you need is a registration or a pink slip from your Honda the numbers on the ignition switch give the number to the parts man numbers right next to where the key goes in

[@firstsurname1284]

200 was a steal. Price out a tail light for these... Not to mention all the metal work....

[@stevetealey2804]

if you strip it right down to just the frame and got all the rust and old paint off you could restore the frame.

[@davesplace1307]

If you dont care about the motor get a half inch impact and hit the bolt on the crank. Something is going to break loose believe me

[@jeffpotter7656]

Bring’em back from the Dead! Honda knew how to build them with style.

[@brandonsenauit6908]

The Seller probably got it at the junk yard for $25 ha ha

[@troyrosenbaugh9935]

Got one in my parts bin fits CL and CB that year. My parts shagger kid pulled it, thank goodness. It was slated for ebay sale but I will hold on to it for now.

[@ukcarlover517]

I would look for budget parts and rebuild it

[@JesseGreer-f2y]

You should have soaked the pistons over night with transmission fluid and ammonia mixed. Squirter the solution onto the sparkplug holes till the cylenders are full. And give it about 12 hours then put it on the center stand in low gear turn the back wheel till it breaks loose. If its still seized then pull the engine, and heads. Then take a pine 2x2 and place the end against piston. And drive the piston down. The other Poston should start up if it don't take a loss becouse it'll cost more to fix than it's worth

[@zrkn1]

Dropping the entire engine always makes for a better KZbin video and a much more complete rebuild. Your shop needs a heavy duty 4 wheel cart.

[@derikwright3383]

Try using a series of hard plastic wedges under head and try and bring it up even past the pistons.

[@waynemoses3956]

It's in good condition to be sitting outside for 30 years.

[@chasleask8533]

A handsome machine young fella . It came to you for help . make it work .

[@robashton5254]

Well said chas

[@chasleask8533]

@@robashton5254 Ah well.

[@kevinlarrimore]

FYI if you are trying to save the motor use a press slash heat worst case use a hole saw to cut the cylinders free as the pistons at that point are not reusable

[@Orbacron]

Get your propane torch and go through some heatcycles and penetrant for several days to try and free up the piston rings. In between heat cycles, get a buddy to put torque on the crank while you tap wood block and sledge hammer on top of pistons. Obviously it would take several tries and try not to smash the pistons to shreds or overtorque the crank

[@nickolasvaughn667]

I just took the valve cover off of a 82 Honda cm450 the other day had to move the coils bike is identical to the one you're working on