[3.12] How to Juice Up Your Maps With Zana Delirium For Profit

[@Grimro]

Currently looking into why my recording software is making some videos jitter sorry for the quality!

[@MattDoesLife539]

Good old times in deli league where strats like this can net you easily over 150 splinters.

[@hichemzitouni2814]

why you did not add the coast of the actual T16 map for intial costs? and except few builds like miner, we need to reroll, i think it is about 60c+

[@Grimro]

@@hichemzitouni2814 It's in there as 10 c.

[@varagianafro9755]

and prices went to the vent nice

[@VictorFajoses]

Dude i gotta say, while i never get to this kind of high-end farming (i mostly just run things i like because i play less than 2h/day), i love your videos and the way you share your knowledge of the game/mechanics/strategies every league. Thanks for the content and for being a pretty chill dood. Cheers!

[@distilledwill]

One prophecy to mention is Feral Lord 1 prophecy: very common and adds a tonne of monsters to tropical island specifically.

[@chad607111]

Does that prophecy add monsters or just replace them?

[@djJaXx101]

I thought the OP thing about Breach is that it pauses the movement of the delirium fog when you are inside the breach so you can relax for a few seconds. I have also heard similar with Blight, and with ATZXALZYSXZ Temple, although I am not convinced the fog pauses while doing the temple, but maybe.

[@Al_Does_Stuff]

Fog 100% pauses in temple however if your at the edge of delirium (or the timers started) when you go in it can still count down near the portal. If your really pushing it 1-2s left then sometimes most the incursion will not be counted as in delirium and you'll lose it

[@thebroccoli5906]

Thanks for the info. 5:15 nice Delirium tab

[@MendaMeister7]

Been waiting for a video like this. Thanks!

[@ElSabio159]

Me after preparing the map full juiced: "it's been 84 years"

[@Grimro]

Lmao

[@beasthaven1571]

U after.... woorrrttthh year 182

[@JohnB-mo4kq]

Territories unknown can also add a modifier like reflect, no regen, etc. Kind of useless if you have to leave an expensive map. I don't get why you would recommend it, unless you have an all map mod build.

[@danielav6038]

your videos are very helpful and informative, keep it up!

[@CzerwonaPanda_]

I am pretty new to juicing maps, and this is very helpful, I didnt even know there were white watchstones, you could probably add some prophecies as well

[@tonytang6179]

Best crypto family and best crypto show ever!!!

[@anathielvanrycanter7696]

+1 level Ivory Watchstones may also come handy, allowing you to drop ilvl 84 cluster jewel bases.

[@DayOfCasual]

Be aware that this also makes the map consinderably harder.

[@RXsmok]

i tended to make a break from delirium orb'ed maps last league(with 4x skittering edlirium orbs ), and used less valuable scarabs (non gilden legion, elder, breach, divination ) that i wouldn't be bother to sell runing burial chamber with sextants, without ivory watchstones and i avergaed about 110 splinters per map last leauge (and got mirror of delirum somewhere in between 1 every 2 or 3 maps). The most important of all this upwards however is beyond mod. scarabs wathcstones and shit are good, but map is twice as good if it has beyond on it. If you can survive it ofcourse

[@gubzs]

Forgot to mention you really need a god tier clearing build to do this. It may be cheap to make some of those, but that will require a reroll for a lot of folks

[@Poslan1]

best end-game content on youtube

[@brandonzack2260]

Keep it up man. U earn a sub

[@maurice5391]

The Feral Lord Prophecy is really underrated, would recomment using it for tropical island maps, its a lot more density for 1Alc-1c. Buying it is kinda a hassle though

[@hayom120]

do you buy prophecys in bulk?

[@Balormage]

Loved this video. But I have to disagree on Carto Scarbs. Not only does it help sustain map pools. But tropical island is 10c a map and burial is 8c a map. I've been using gilded carto scarbs and I think it's the single highest currency earner of all the scarbs I earn. With an extra 18 to 38c a map on adverage. Carto alone makes as much profit as the delirium itself. I leave out legion because my minion build is bad at those. But I would suggest leaving out metamorph if you can handle legion.

[@aefoaanemone4731]

Although i usually make ~110 splinters with Caustic arrow build without Sirus watchstones or beyond or propehices, with the current low chaos/exalt ratio and Simulacrum price going down i don't feel like running TropIsland is really good anymore. I farmed em for Delirium orbs to use on t2 Beach to farm Headhunters, but getting 1-2 unique leather belts per map with 70IIQ and 325IIR solo is aweful :(

[@Bryan_ZA]

welp there goes the watchstone prices

[@jmgerbese7331]

Where is blade vortex build guide? :(((

[@Drianikaben]

he did it like 2 days ago

[@jmgerbese7331]

@@Drianikaben i meant like the in-depth guide

[@g.waits4gainz205]

wahoooo grimro spilling the deeets, helping us all understadn what to do and learn how to get better in a very structured league, AND crashing market prices with floods of noobs kappa

[@moocom3389]

Do u have video about u make atlas to drop only tropical island

[@Sammysapphira]

Could you maybe make a video on intermediate and beginner juicing? It's hard establishing enough currency to have all these things in comfortable bulks to pound through. I'm personally in the intermediate area, all i do is use sextants and corrupt and use an occasional scarab or zana mod

[@ayasekaru]

christ and here im bumbling around on T8 with my golems?? always blown away how, if you know what youre doing, the game goes so much faster

[@Fabregas200788]

that's kinda weird to read golems carry you to sirus8 on

[@ayasekaru]

@@Fabregas200788 yea but I have no clue what I'm doing

[@manaseeker2414]

I do notice i get better and faster each league and so will you if you continue :)

[@AGVenge]

So with the new Heist contracts and blueprints rewards, what do we buy? How do we evaluate the potential profit from running a contract or blueprint? What mods to look for? I have ignored the mechanic for now...

[@deimar9480]

you forgot to mention that you need a build capable of clearing fast and safe, and a build like that is costs alot just by it self.

[@1986Boomboom]

Wont any golemancer work?

[@msbabycakes]

Hmm my necro build doesnt clear fast enough :(

[@deimar9480]

@@1986Boomboom any build works if u invest enough, but the magic word is ''invest''

[@deimar9480]

@@msbabycakes thats what i was saying, u have to be rich to get richer :D

[@petardinjo]

@@deimar9480 what is stoping you? some "alternative ways of playing game" which includes ignoring facts how to be rich in virtual envirovment, what to say for real life if you have problem to be rich in path of exile?? and of course, define rich ? oblitertation wands with poison bv can literally make you rich for these 12-13 days of playing only if you are stick with it and not taking those as said, alternative routes where I kNoW BeTtEr approach.. consistency is key.

[@ElxHhihox]

you can also make more profit by removing 1 watchstone on the other regions and add to favorite tropical + instead of metamorph add a cartographer scarab and you would be getting so many tropicals wich are quite expensive atm also u woudl sustain no problem

[@tzuschy1]

GG, a loot of micro-management. PoE players: alch and go!

[@waiting4more]

Quibble: 6 awakened sextants are certainly more than 2c.

[@lamoraledelhistoire]

per map

[@samie4759]

3uses.... So divide by 3

[@edwardcphipps]

Love your vids very informative dont usually juice maps .. how do you transition into t16 from t5 etc do you juice lower tier maps to find better loot to upgrade or just run heaps of lower tier maps un juiced

[@stefanrautenbach6550]

Hi Grim TY for Guide.

[@c0refreAk.]

Booming Populace went up in price who would have thought ...

[@DemonmachinE]

Do you think it's worth it to run the Simulacrum or is it better to just sell the splinters? Running it seems inconsistent, but maybe more profitable in the long term. You mention selling the simulacrums, so I'm wondering which is better.

[@wythe2152]

How is this strategy compared to delirium orb map farming? Which one is more profitable?

[@anathema1828]

You’re doing Krillson’s work here mate- Nice one!

[@Unpulumpa]

do delirium orbs count if you dont have zanas delirium thing yet?

[@aandrenery]

Plans to upgdate Heist sheet after todays update?

[@Shobu55]

Whats the best build right now to make use of Headhunter and for farming these juiced maps? I'm playing a shitty Inquisitor Flicker Strike with HH right now cuz I had to switch my build from Crackling Lance :/

[@joao_silva679]

The answer is in the video... grim's build.

[@Shobu55]

@@joao_silva679 I'm going for selcurse ethernal blades now. I dont like the stress of keeping up the HH stacks. With selcurse I have enough time to clear everything and still have stacks for eg. the boss.

[@sadyakubovich]

Is it worth using a +1 level watchstone on top of that to be able to get ilvl84 aura clusters?

[@zenphang6887]

what do you reckon to run juice up map by not having delirium mode on zana ? do i have to stack max delirium orb on each map which is 5 ? Tq

[@koolcoy]

Well, sometimes, I ask myself whether should I chisel these maps, since chisels are obviously not self-sustaining.

[@velaxibaldy932]

Bruh why you can't sustain chisel? Don't alch the map before chisel it.

[@intered144]

Doing fully juiced T16 delirium maps also - but never saw a button to release the loot?

[@Ilestun]

I don't understand how 80 simulacrum splinters can worth so much. Do we play the sale game were the simulacrum needs 300 splinters ? How can 80 splinters payback the map cost and give 20co benefit. There is something I really don't catch there.

[@200jhosep]

can you recomend builds to farm this? without hh if possible

[@Drspangleipo]

Explodey blade vortex, he has a video on it and HH isnt required (but is good). Can also do poison bv, spectres, golems, anything wand or bow with good gear (burning arrow probably the cheapest)

[@roflbbqlolhs]

Grim farmed t12 tropicals until he could buy HH, I did the same and it worked out well

[@brenobarbosa5688]

@@roflbbqlolhs t12 tropical island with delirium mod and the scarabs?

[@glaxx0n]

@@roflbbqlolhs Please explain

[@Mutiny960]

@@glaxx0n He got there on Day 1. Therefore everything that drops is worth $$$$. That's the main strat of every league. Get to maps Day 1 or 2, PROFIT. Everything else is playing catch up and struggling.

[@ragingnep]

are delirium mob still worth running now when simulacrums are only 86c?

[@Manuelitos4]

how do you roll the maps tho? with how much packsize and quantity?

[@TDansVids]

Is it worth it to run your Simulacrums?

[@apoocanbanage9632]

how does this method compare to using delirium orbs instead?

[@jeremy6777]

Hey, Wondering what Belt and Amulet could replace HH and Badge, before having 100 exalts to spend on them. ( and also do you alt+ regal your large jewels with 3 notables?)

[@MandruDuce]

He did a map on steam by chat's request with astramentis I think (so he can actually have enough stats for his other gear) and with no belt. He full cleared the map but it was slower.

[@Cruniac85]

information/calculation outdated, ivory watchstone prices more than doubled

[@corpusarmatae8541]

That's quite a bubble. I'm kinda looking forward to next league already because in this game bubbles don't pop like they should at some point. Exalt and simulacrum prices will drop until this thing has been done by too much players and it won't be worth to do anymore, at which point everyone will start saying deadleague while downloading genshin impact. All jokes aside, because of all this, delirium might be nerfed to the ground next league or just won't appear in the map device ever again. Or even both. Great job.

[@greggogrueni]

Its not that many People who can Run this kind of Maps profitable ;) and the Chaos is not dropping and dropping because of things like this ;)

[@karimchaffai5922]

exalt prices are very low not just because of this but also heist shitting them. An running this map is no joke, the boss alone has probably like 200m hp, the mobs at the end crazy hp aswell, you need a great build for this that's not squishy as dying means wasted delirium

[@Jeffim4k]

Does your build make t19 full delirium without problems?

[@Jolt_tBP]

What about the time cost to set it up? I could run at least 1.5 more maps in the time it takes to buy all those things and set it up. Getting closer to Conqueror/Sirus

[@Drianikaben]

buy in bulk.

[@itsshow710]

if dropping a t16 just about gets you to profit , if i ran my alchd t16 tropical island and i drop another t16 im already 10c in profit with no risk of going negative ?

[@cih2007]

no, because you used a t16 and got a t16 back. you would need 2 t16s to start making profit. theres not really much risk in juicing a delirium map unless you are clearing really slowly, 12 chaos is really easy to make back because your screen is literally full of drops

[@itsshow710]

@@cih2007 That is correct assuming I'd be selling all the maps you're right. I just can't get my head around using so much currency on a map , I never see returns , I play since 2014 on and off and I just can have get around to doing it , I feel like I'm just losing currency

[@cih2007]

@@itsshow710 I have found that it often seems like you are losing currency when you actually aren't because a lot of the money you make is in the form of chromatics, jewellers, and other small currencies. once you liquidate all of those you will easily make your money back and then some. you just need to have enough currency to run multiple juiced maps in a row, otherwise you end up having to liquidate all of your small currencies through tedious small trades just to make the money back to buy the next juiced map.

[@eelnico]

Hey Grimro awesome video as always. I have a question, i juice the maps with everything you mention, but whenever i reach to the 2nd part of tropicals or burials, the fog is gone, and sometimes it isn't and i reach the boss and the fog is still there, what am i doing wrong?

[@JohnB-mo4kq]

Move and kill faster. It really is that simple.

[@samie4759]

How do I roll the map itself? Chisel alc and go or are we looking for specific mods?

[@Euthafro]

Chisel, alch, reroll until its decent and doesn't have bad mods, corrupt, sort out bad corruptions, go

[@breachr4696]

Can someone tell my why my dellirum keeps ending? Im killing and the fog is going in the opposite direction, it goes against the way i am in running in and the delirum ends. This has happened 3 times already

[@Euthafro]

Go with the fog (not against) if its ending too fast. Move faster and don't pick up any loot until after the delirium ends. League mechanics like Alva, blight, breach etc will pause the fog for you

[@weirdflex2598]

Honestly this league I'm only running maps to get contracts cause I'm usually pulling 20c out of each heist that takes have the time. Better yet I get so many free delirium orbs which are better way to run deli. imo. The better ones I just sell for 14+ c

[@NotFinalTillVinyl]

I've never really messed around with super efficient farming like this, but how would this compare to using 2-3 low end delirium orbs for about the same cost as the map mod or slightly less if only using 2 orbs? im guessing its probably worse to do it that way?

[@chrisklooz9538]

Might be better as long as the delirium rewards you get are able to be sold easily enough. Usually the cheap ones are cheap for a reason and demand sucks for their drops

[@NotFinalTillVinyl]

@@chrisklooz9538 yea the rewards wouldnt be great, was more thinking purely for the splinters and I believe the bosses can drop some of the jewels as well.

[@chrisklooz9538]

@@NotFinalTillVinyl just saw in other comments grim saying the orbs drop a lot less splinters than the zana mirror mod does. So that probably answers that, if the other rewards are shat too

[@NotFinalTillVinyl]

@@chrisklooz9538 ah i see, thanks i didn't see those comments

[@Max-gb2di]

I am currently trying the same strategy, but I seem to only be getting 20 - 30 splinters per map. Do you have any idea why? Maybe because I die once per map? Otherwise, really good video and love the detail!

[@Grimro]

I've never gotten below 45 splinters however I have heard there can be bugged layouts. This seems to be the case on all maps though so unfortunately just have to power through.

[@Max-gb2di]

@@Grimro Thank you very much!

[@Mutiny960]

@@Grimro Which means a loss of an already slim profit margin. Method is garbage, not cause of you but b/c the game optimization sucks ass.

[@VoCiech]

Simulacrum splinters are already so cheap damn

[@Grani237]

is it better to use the zana delirium mo than a delirium orb? they are cheaper than the zana mod. is there any difference between then?

[@xzcuhu]

I think delirium orbs don't give as much splinters and you kinda need 3 or 4 of them depending on the juice this method provides and you can hit expensive reward types on the zana mod. Those rewards would cost some more in c BUT you would ofc get more rewards so you might have to just try it out

[@Grimro]

the mirror rewards far more splinters vs orbs, the mirror in tropical drops around the same amount of splinters on average as a 4 orbed map as a comparison.

[@Redishere]

Zana gives orbs, orbs dont make orbs.

[@Rawlingm]

Yeah orbs are better to run for just straight loot drops, you do get splinters but not as much as zana mod not even close, I been doing t15 alleyways maps, with Alva, 60% deli orbs, with metamorph, breach and elder/ambush scarabs, legion you can do but it sucks for that map, but I usually can get anywhere from 10-20 contracts per map to as high as 20-30 contracts sometimes, it’s insane, been making a lot of profit so far, and about 14ex raw drops already, sometimes 2 per map, I highly recommend, deli orbs are so damn cheap it’s insane

[@isaiahmurphy5489]

is this still profitable?

[@Popmycherryyo]

But the REAL question is, how much do you value your sanity for when trading for all the shit you need to make this happen? Cus it's quite a lot more than 150c each map.

[@Zapdoz357]

huh? buy everything in the morning then run the 50 maps. 150c per map lmao actually delusional

[@Popmycherryyo]

@@Zapdoz357 woosh

[@Hakkene]

zana delirium mod is the same as using one delirium orb but random, right?

[@Grimro]

No it's quite different, it's timed yields more splinters for its cost and offers staggered rewards.

[@Hakkene]

thanks mate

[@JH-vw3mr]

What about frog or rat prophecies?

[@Papi-qd4tc]

How about watching the video?

[@zebitz]

is it even possible to do a build that can run delirium maps profitable on a budget of let's say maximum 10ex?

[@XXflashbang]

i play toxic rain with caustic arrow and clear them pretty reiliably. i dont use the watchstones tho.

[@cih2007]

i easily clear deilirum with a golemancer build 10ex budget

[@JodsLife1]

This mans really smart

[@TheRealTrucido]

here i am making 10c a day.

[@lebrahc4121]

why awaken level 6 tho?

[@alexanderlinke2240]

So that Tropical Island is the only T16 that can drop.

[@alexanderlinke2240]

@@Carrera92 Yeah you are right. Though when you select tropical island three times as your favourite map of this region the probability for the other maps is fairly low. Resulting in almost only tropical drops.

[@karleenbergkotte2350]

Do you have a streaming schedule or is it just whenever?

[@RezoanurRahman]

i dont think war among the stars work with elder scarabs

[@Redishere]

It does.. i have run tier16+3 maps for a long time. You can get upwards of 30 influenced items in a map maximum.

[@DrooledOn]

How do you make your character a big boi

[@Redishere]

Headhunter

[@ishiiruu69]

Guys is this still profitable or would you rather say do heists? I currently dont have 140 map completion yet, so I'd have to work on that. Same goes for heist though, only a few members are level 4 and I dont have any currency atm to invest in good heist gear for all the NPCs.. Anyone any hints if it still is a decent profit from delirium?

[@ishiiruu69]

Marcel Mix definetly a no for me. I checked a few methods and most of them got like 1-2 ex/hr if u got a good setup. I can do the same with Delirium, even better as fact

[@ishiiruu69]

@@Carrera92 www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/j79k0g/loot_from_12_splitted_blueprints/ Thats from a guy that JUICED the blueprints to the limit with insane gear. For some reasons he only gets just above 1ex/hour profit. Still kinda insane, but these curves are just to big for me. Its still a RNG thing and I dont like RNG just as much as RNG doesnt like me. Delirium Zana mod always gives me a promised return which I prefer.

[@karimchaffai5922]

this is still very profitable if you can run it. you need at least 20 ex investment ( explo mod is a must in my opinion ) and be tanky enough not to die ( or use cast on death portal ). Aslong as you can kill the boss, the splinters on their own will cover the most of the cost

[@ishiiruu69]

@@karimchaffai5922 I mean, I got the entire Fire BV setup with Badge and HH, and I did some runs already full juiced. The outcome is always between 75-85, but im not so sure if I really come out with profit after all

[@sebastianfett726]

except you forgot to mention the part where about 1/5 of the tropical island maps bug and the fog starts clearing from the other side resulting in about 30is splinters instead of the average 100 otherwise completly screwing your investment

[@Xirpzy]

Have good rng and play for a few hundred hours. Same answer to all PoE related questions.

[@Papi-qd4tc]

Imagine thinking that RNG has anything to do with anything.

[@joseluiscuervolopez-mora1814]

Gj

[@MrAntiKnowledge]

Aaaaand investment cost just shot up alot. Thanks Grim :/

[@Rawlingm]

Yeah why would he expose the scarabs like that, I have been enjoying the low prices of them I really hope the prices don’t sky rocket

[@Mutiny960]

@@Rawlingm B/c he stocked up a bunch before releasing the video. You all get it now. He's make a little farming sure, but the BIG $$$$$ comes from selling shit to suckers for 3 times what he bought it for after the video releases lol.

[@Rawlingm]

@@Mutiny960 well good thing i stocked up before the video, i always stock up since league start, scarabs are just way too good to not run them, running maps without scarabs, zana mods, master missions and deli orbs just feels really bad, especially in another league with std mapping where the league content adds nothing to maps

[@Mutiny960]

@@Rawlingm Yep gotta figure out things yourself before all streamers shoot the prices up lol.

[@AGVenge]

I wish you would make guides for normal players that cant screen clear the juiciest of maps🙂🙃

[@SupermangTV]

I think clearing t16s is fairly normal at this point

[@AGVenge]

@@SupermangTV maybe for softcore 🙂

[@Euthafro]

There are other creators who do that. Grim is endgame focused

[@AGVenge]

@@Euthafro which?

[@Euthafro]

@@AGVenge goodguygaming comes to mind

[@LEK]

What would I do, to just run delirium. Unfortunately the game runs like dogshit for some people this league.

[@trikster22]

just play the goddamn game = profit more stash tabs = more profit

[@Bluesachwill]

more dump tabs especially lol

[@christo2690]

The exalt price sucks, doesn't feel special when an exalt drops.

[@LEK]

Thanks to delirium being a zana mod

[@Papi-qd4tc]

@@LEK And the massive banwave of bots.

[@nathan-sg7cu]

lol i can barely reach 20 splinters :( haha i suck

[@aka_LocK]

+1

[@Flakzor123]

Great job man... watchstones went up in price already, only unresponsive players (or pricefixers) left at low prices =)

[@ballisticfrisbee7142]

yeah, this is dead allready:P prices went to shit:P

[@magscat493]

I get 3-5 splinters if the map has delirium. It's not much but it's honest work.

[@MegaBezveze]

Great video! Even though I know all of this, I almost always forget how much you can really juice up your maps xD However, I really think Delirium should be nerfed, something like 10% slower reward bar filling per level.I kinda feel that currently delirium ( mirror and orbs ) is too good, yes it is hard content but it is just so much better than anything else in game.

[@cih2007]

i agree. once you have a build that can clear it effectively, you can make currency stupid easy

[@cocoyeabroom2505]

1st