[3.2] Genshin Impact Chapter 3 Act 5 Recap & Analysis

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Ashikai

Ashikai

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There was an incredible amount of lore dropped on us this patch. So much that it's impossible for me to cover it all in a single video, so here's a quick recap of the whole quest plus my preliminary thoughts.
I hope you all enjoyed this quest as much as I did! Definitely one of the best quests in the entire game to date.
*TIMESTAMPS*
0:00 Introduction
1:00 Quest Recap
7:50 Rukkhadevata & Nahida
10:16 Scaramouche
16:56 Dottore
19:45 Forbidden Knowledge
29:10 Gnosis (Chess Theory)
34:37 The Twins (Descenders)
38:20 Rapidfire Round (lorebits)
*READ + WATCH MORE*
Deep Blue vs Kasparov www.chess.com/article/view/de...
The False Sky (by Ashikai) • [1.5] The stars are a ...
Celestia's Location (by WhaleMilk) • I Calculated Where Cel...
List of things changed after deleting Rukkhadevata: / the_impact_of_the_aq_i...
*GENSHIN WIKI LINKS*
Perilous Trail genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Zhongli SQ 1genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Ei SQ 2 genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Tighnari SQ 1 genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Unreconciled Stars genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Husk of Opulent Dreams genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Wings of Descension genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...
Sword of Descension genshin-impact.fandom.com/wik...

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@nerdlord7994
@nerdlord7994 Жыл бұрын
I deadass interpreted paimon's resistance to the pollution in rukkhadevata's remaining consciousness as a dig against her because her head is just so empty and there would be nothing to get corrupted
@captaindanger13
@captaindanger13 Жыл бұрын
LOL
@autumnidkk
@autumnidkk Жыл бұрын
the most believable theory so far lmao
@nawawii3750
@nawawii3750 Жыл бұрын
Lol,she is eroded to the extreme, to a degree if having nothing left to be corrupted!
@blazelazin5752
@blazelazin5752 Жыл бұрын
If Paimon really is the 1st descender, the Primordial then Paimon might have pretended that she didn't know the OG Dendro Archon. P.S. Nahida said that the heavenly principles is the 1st descender but I think she got it wrong cuz no one know about the Primordial and what's in Enkanomiya.
@hecta2244
@hecta2244 Жыл бұрын
i don't really think paimon is a descender because paimon seem to forget rukkhadevata after nahida erase her. We can see paimon forget her when everybody talk about nahida but traveller remember rukkhadevata which mean paimon is binded by the world of teyvat
@Truck-kun11
@Truck-kun11 Жыл бұрын
Signora's case was completely personal. She hates Barbatos for not protecting Mondstadt during the Cataclysm (although he fought against Durin and saved the city) and caused the love of her life to die. With Morax and Raiden she was very professional and used negotiation.
@controlcon
@controlcon Жыл бұрын
that's what I was thinking too, she was probably meant to negotiate with venti as well, but just decided to say fuck it because she hated him. the other Fatui members even criticized her actions lol
@kenkakuknight
@kenkakuknight Жыл бұрын
Let's not also forget that Nahida threatened to break the gnoses if Dottore tried to take them by force, heavily implying that the Unknown God (or some other representative of the Heavenly Principles) would come down and smite them for breaking them. She basically bluffed her way into negotiations with Dottore ("you take this by force, I'll break it. you won't leave until you have it, so let's make a deal, that way we're all slightly unhappy.")
@hanin3128
@hanin3128 Жыл бұрын
And I still felt like he was holding back, because no matter what I think he still sees her as Child of Mondstadt
@ToscaTee
@ToscaTee Жыл бұрын
@@hanin3128 well his braids didn’t glow when he was “trying” to break the ice, that’s a very clear sign of venti holding back
@mcrystle1228
@mcrystle1228 Жыл бұрын
@@ToscaTee imagine he just let her take it so that he doesn’t have to take care of it :/
@lechungus1832
@lechungus1832 Жыл бұрын
And Zhongli's quote about preserving true history near the end of his second story quest just made a lot more sense.
@subhadramahanta452
@subhadramahanta452 Жыл бұрын
yes, I got reminded of that as well when Rukkhadevta was erased.
@brennanwn
@brennanwn Жыл бұрын
TOO TRUE😢😢
@louloudaki_
@louloudaki_ Жыл бұрын
if traveler gets trapped in irminsul the story is fuuuuuucked
@BValk
@BValk Жыл бұрын
wait, what do you mean exactly?
@backdraftcel
@backdraftcel Жыл бұрын
@@BValk in his first story quest, zhongli brought traveler along so that they could preserve teyvat's past, because they're not bound by teyvats law
@altair3545
@altair3545 6 ай бұрын
"will the people of fontaine and the fatui collaborate to prevent a massive disaster?" 😮
@Wolf_Dominic
@Wolf_Dominic Жыл бұрын
The Sumeru quest line is definitely the longest archon quest so far. It was certainly amazing in my opinion. The team we formed throughout it was pretty nice as well.
@jonnevitu4979
@jonnevitu4979 Жыл бұрын
And didnt felt rushed * stares at Inazuma *
@teyvatato2148
@teyvatato2148 Жыл бұрын
I have to agree. Not perfect at all but it's the first time imo that the story telling actually approached the quality of the lore and world building we've always had. I think lore/world building wise, Genshin has always been pretty solid to great even. Mondstadt may have been a bit generic in it's story telling but gets the point across effectively. Liyue was a poorly paced story, at best, with good world building. Inazuma's story telling, to me at least, was a wreck despite having great lore/world building. Sumeru, imo, makes a genuine attempt to combine these elements into a cohesive experience that is just more impactful on a general scale. It's way more info to crunch to the average player, in a palatable format anyways, than we've been offered before. Playable characters matter more, the dialog is more revealing and the base info obtained is objectively crucial. Again, not perfect, but a very serious step in the right direction overall. I have faith that, by the time this is all wrapping up, we will have a properly told tale that capitalizes on its strong roots laid along the way. That's all I really care about in the end.
@rayq4235
@rayq4235 Жыл бұрын
@@teyvatato2148 i agree despite some misssteps here and there most of them are minor like collei and dunyarzard gets underused and act 4 being a bit of slog go through, i think its a step in the right direction where the highs overshadowed the lows instead of the otherway around like lyue and inazuma (especially you inazuma)
@batperson3532
@batperson3532 Жыл бұрын
Well duh it went on for 3 patches instead of the usual 2 from the previous regions.
@spacejunk2186
@spacejunk2186 Жыл бұрын
I skipped all the dialogue lol.
@Justin.ol9
@Justin.ol9 Жыл бұрын
You don’t know how often I’ve been refreshing youtube waiting for this video to pop up 💀😭
@bAnana-vz6yz
@bAnana-vz6yz Жыл бұрын
Same
@alshu2887
@alshu2887 Жыл бұрын
Sameee
@vanessaleon4466
@vanessaleon4466 Жыл бұрын
OMG same!! 😂
@LynnToledo
@LynnToledo Жыл бұрын
Same
@Gione908
@Gione908 Жыл бұрын
Same
@kirby_kaguamero9436
@kirby_kaguamero9436 Жыл бұрын
28:40 And also when Ei said "If you remember me, I'll live forever." that line takes on a whole new deapth.
@grelianes
@grelianes Жыл бұрын
Isn't Albedo's case similar to Scaramouche? He's not human as well and he somehow got a vision. I actually hope Scaramouche getting a vision will be explained further in the main story or his quest
@deathwingthedestroyer3632
@deathwingthedestroyer3632 Жыл бұрын
Albedo is alive in the sense that he has a heart and he can breath like every living being and he’s mainly an organic based life-form. It’s no different to In-Gen making dinosaurs. Scaramouche on the other hand is an automaton given a complex system or program that’s merely a facade to a real living human being, in a sense he’s not a real person but something mimicking one. Although we do know he has free will since he willing chose to join the fatui because according to him they were “fun to be around” as well as many other things.
@saaraismail3400
@saaraismail3400 Жыл бұрын
@@deathwingthedestroyer3632 scara acts more human than Albedo and it’s kinda funny bc he’s a puppet 😭😭
@kanishkjaiswal5088
@kanishkjaiswal5088 Жыл бұрын
Maybe celestia gives visions based on emotions. It doesn't care if the holder is organic or not. I think it would be funny to see an animal holding a vision and can manipulate elements.
@emilyrainvincent7122
@emilyrainvincent7122 Жыл бұрын
@@saaraismail3400 honestly I feel like albedo has some form of autism based on the way he reacts with people 😅
@Kenny-ot4yx
@Kenny-ot4yx Жыл бұрын
We assume Scara isn't built special. If archons can create familiars I don't think it's that much of a stretch to think they can make something with real emotions and feelings.
@Gxmwp
@Gxmwp Жыл бұрын
I feel like the fact the Greater Lord said that Nahida is her "in this Samsara" implies this is just a thing the Dendro archon goes through every thousand years or so. Which is slightly horrifying cause then who knows how many iterations has been lost forever. Like who knows if the one that helped the Scarlet King is the Greater Lord or if that was the just the Dendro archon before even her.
@jadecoolness101
@jadecoolness101 Жыл бұрын
yeah like the dendro archon almost exists as a sponge to take in all forbidden knowledge, and then be erased... horrifying
@captaindanger13
@captaindanger13 Жыл бұрын
your profile picture sums up the confusion this comment creates in me
@scrappy_horns8139
@scrappy_horns8139 Жыл бұрын
The fact that the Dendro Archon is an Avatar or Irminsul that contains memories and records of the entire world of Teyvat, means her existence could go all the way back to the world creation…her role seems much more important to Teyvat compared to the other Archons we met…I wonder if the other Gods have left her alone during the Archon war to avoid risk of destroying Irminsul indirectly destroying Teyvat?
@anne-katriengeerts2303
@anne-katriengeerts2303 Жыл бұрын
Exactly: I'm 100% convinced that she used the same technique when she was helping the Scarlet King.
@edamame1879
@edamame1879 Жыл бұрын
so what if the cutscene we saw in kasala memory about her got smaller after exhausting herself was just her taking another branch to create a new "her in another samsara" but people remember it differently bc of memory of her previous self was erased but not completely
@Geo-ye1lp
@Geo-ye1lp Жыл бұрын
Paimon being a seelie isn't becoming less likely! Even the corruption resistance/immunity tracks, since 3 out of the 5 seelie types we've seen have an effect that counteracts leyline weirdness. (Warming seelie in Dragonspine, Luminous Seelie in Chasm, Seelies of Life in Withering Zones). I think the Electro Seelies on Tsurumi also counteract the fog effect, but I can't test that to be sure and I'm of the opinion that we'll come back to Tsurumi later for more Nail-esque lore.
@brigittahegarini7162
@brigittahegarini7162 Жыл бұрын
Hoooo, great observation! Ashikai, please see this!
@xeacarons
@xeacarons Жыл бұрын
Now i m leaning towards lochfolks being seelies, oceanid srsly looks like one and the Heart of Springs fictional storybook very much implied how lochfolk gets their power from the moon. Remember seelies and 3 moon sisters were one big unified civilisation? Someone said childe foul legacy form looks like a seelie. So maybe his master Skirk in abyss also of seelie race? This is torture we can't even trust non npc sources, everything can rewritten by irminsul
@TheCheeseman1983
@TheCheeseman1983 Жыл бұрын
I seem to recall hearing somewhere that the last living Seelie is somewhere in the Sumeru desert, so I’m hoping we’ll learn a lot more about them, soon!
@captaindanger13
@captaindanger13 Жыл бұрын
@@TheCheeseman1983 I'm not sure if this is what you mean but here's a quote from Arama: " There was once a survivor of that race deep within the golden desert who was friends with Queen Aranyani and the ruler of Valuka" (I found this quote on the genshin wiki). Arama was talking about the seelie race in this part of the aranyaka quest.
@TheCheeseman1983
@TheCheeseman1983 Жыл бұрын
@@captaindanger13 Hmm… Yeah, that’s probably what I was thinking of. Sounds like they are referencing the distant past, though, so I suppose there’s little chance that they are still alive.
@Noah-gn2gu
@Noah-gn2gu Жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you for seeing the parallels between Nahida and Scara. The way the two ended up interacting was beautifully done imo. Seeing Nahida locked up, questioning herself and calling herself worthless, only for the Traveler to say “you should’ve been angry ages ago” was absolutely amazing. And then it followed with Scara as a parallel, the complete opposite, externalizing the way he felt, becoming arrogant, and overflowing with rage. When Nahida took the gnosis it wasn’t just a transfer of power. Scara gave up his power (the mech, via the tethers), and all of his pride to *beg* for the gnosis. Nahida on the other hand had finally resolved to fight for herself, to be angry, to have courage, but she looks up at him and sees the pain. That moment is just so perfectly executed. Just a side note if you didn’t notice, isn’t it weird that Scara fell prey to Nahida’s dream powers when Scara’s special talent is supposed to be rousing himself from even the deepest slumber? I wonder if there’s something there. Also is his vision a dream catcher?
@technolost3910
@technolost3910 Жыл бұрын
On Dottore being too casual with Nahida, I think it's because he doesn't harbor any grudge towards gods and especially his own god the God of wisdom. He got kicked out of the academia(mostly the student I don't thing Rukkadevata had anything to do with that) and joined the Fatui on the basis that he recieves almost unlimited resources in exchange for his experiments. Signora on the other hand, holds a massive grudge towards venti but is more casual and professional with Zhongli and Raiden. Dottore also seems to value his identity as a scholar more than a follower of the Tsaritsa, so he'd probably rather have a mental battle with the God of wisdom than take the gnosis by force. I also just think that the Tsaritsa doesn't hate or dislike any of the archons since to me, she really doesn't appear like the big bad but instead will prolly be the most tragic god we'll meet. From what we've seen from the other archons they are almost completely held by their own values that it sometimes backfires on them (Rukkadevata being erased from knowing of the forbidden knowledge, Raiden's futile pursuit of eternity in an everchanging world, Zhongli's commitment to uphold contracts no matter the price, Venti's freedom resulting in negligence to chaos etc.). So the events of the cataclysm I assume probably broke the Tsaritsa more than other gods because of her virtue of being the Goddess of love, so she appears cold but still remains that affectionate side that she's keeping locked up. All the evils and warcrimes the Fatui commit can just be chalked up to Pierro being in charge of the harbingers. The only ones to seem to hold animosity towards all archons seems to be ones that came from the ruined country of Dain and otherwise would just depend on the Harbinger's personal relations to their respective gods.
@teasoup
@teasoup Жыл бұрын
i agree with a lot of what you said but i don’t think it’s fair to say all the crimes the fatui commit can be chalked up to just Pierro. he along with all the other harbingers and fatui answer to the Tsaritsa, she is still in charge and the harbingers are there to enact her will. even if she isn’t the one who orders those crimes to happen she has to know about them and not put a stop to them. ultimately it is still her responsibility what her soldiers and diplomats do
@technolost3910
@technolost3910 Жыл бұрын
@@teasoup @velvet sundae I dont think Pierro is a purely bad guy or that the Tsaritsa is anywhere near innocent, but moreso that I think he's more the ruthless type of leader and a lot more of the active chain of command. With the current state of the Tsaritsa in my current headcannon theory, she's most likely gonna act like a kuudere where she's apathetic to everything. So the chain of command would go like: Tsaritsa: Harbingers, get gnosis Pierro: I just sent Dottore, but he might burn down a city on accident or something. Tsaritsa:.... ... ...ok It's basically the Raiden puppet thing, but to an extreme since she's litterally ice cold. In summary, I personally think most of the active commands come from Pierro, like who's in charge of finding scaramouche and the gnosis. Most of the info regarding morality are either kept with Pierro or mentally blocked by the Tsaritsa, and the rest of the dubious stuff are up to the harbingers, especially the colder ones like Dottore, columbina, Sandrone, and to an extent Pantalone. I still do think she's more guilty than say Ei with her 1 year of the vision hunt Decree, but with how Genshin's writing is improving(hopefully) they'll have to give a good story the the whole of snezhnaya(?) and even if they give the Tsaritsa the same story beats as Ei it'll hopefully be executed 100x better.(srry If I can't write concisely and my points are messy, it's 4 am and I have College work due but I'd rather talk about Genshin lore)
@corinnetheanime
@corinnetheanime Жыл бұрын
Yes I’m so glad someone noticed the fate Scaramouche narrowly avoided. We indirectly saved him from suffering the same fate as Rhukkadevata, as well as being a confined databank for the Akademiya to use for their own interests. It hurts so much to see his fall, but it’s also for the better considering the alternative. Also, his story as a whole is so sad. And I agree, there are too many discrepancies between the 3.1 cutscene and the husk set, there is something behind the scenes that Dottore is involved with. Thanks for the mention (alongside my friends!) in the chess theory, btw! Here is hoping it continues, especially since Nahida’s analogy of comparing the Archon War to a game/simple secret is way too sus. Paimon super sus
@BattyButtercup
@BattyButtercup Жыл бұрын
agreed except: why is everyone so convinced paimon is sus? her most likely identity, from all lore thus far, is that of a regressed god (NOT of time, the time-pausing mechanic is a skill of Traveler not Paimon: if you place Paimon in the serenitea pot, she doesn't show up when you open the menu but time still pauses). i had initially thought Paimon would be an avatar of Irminsul (her iconography matches that of the irminsul branches in domains) but... turns out that that's Buer. since Paimon also succumbed to the Memory Wipe of the Greater Lord, Paimon is confirmed as Not An Alien/Descender. both venti & zhongli are under Celestial NDA, ei didn't hang out with the other archons much, nahida has amnesia: it's entirely possible that Paimon was recognised by the first 2 & forgotten by the latter 2. they're all named in the ars goettia & have turned out to be Good Guys: there is also a lot of association between the Traveler (& the Abyss Sibling) and Lucifer, to whom the demon!Paimon is absolutely loyal. the similarities between Nahida & Paimon are RIDICULOUS, making me even more confident in assuming that she is a long-lost god (most possibly of stars & thus fate/prediction).
@kiki_117
@kiki_117 Жыл бұрын
agree
@danidan2174
@danidan2174 Жыл бұрын
@@BattyButtercup paimon is phanes
@BattyButtercup
@BattyButtercup Жыл бұрын
@@danidan2174 my tinfoil is on The Sustainer being the sole surviving Moon Sister &/or Shade, with Paimon being to Seelies what Kaeya is to Khaenrians (a child saved/protected from the curse).
@danidan2174
@danidan2174 Жыл бұрын
@@BattyButtercup phanes described as a being with wings and crown, so far only paimon fits both with venti and statue in inazuma come close with only wings, my thought paimon is phanes with venti and inazuma statue as the shades notice how venti also has a big statue in mondstat with wings
@juanpedrodelacruz7348
@juanpedrodelacruz7348 Жыл бұрын
The whole Sumeru Archon quest is one of my favorite. The Scaramouche scene is amazing, from godly to being nothing, it was affective and effective. The scene between Nahida and Rukkhaadevata is as great as when Ei and Makoto met, it was bittersweet but beautiful. Cinematigraphy and Edit were on point. Every vital characters has good screentime. The Lore bomb at the end was executed well. It wasnt perfect but so much better than some previous Archon quests. I give it a 8/10.
@mars9986
@mars9986 Жыл бұрын
I totally missed the shut down when he fell out of his mech. I just took as him becoming despondent!
@scarlet8992
@scarlet8992 Жыл бұрын
I cried both at scara falling and rukkhaadevata being deleted
@kisa4748
@kisa4748 Жыл бұрын
fr, went and watched it in multiple languages
@strxwbqrry4652
@strxwbqrry4652 Жыл бұрын
@@scarlet8992 same 😭
@wolfkitty42
@wolfkitty42 Жыл бұрын
It broke my heart to see him so vulnerable. The animation, voice acting, everything was fantastic. Seeing him reduced to begging for the gnosis blew my mind and I look forward to seeing how his redemption arc goes.
@horizon146
@horizon146 Жыл бұрын
I came up with this a few days ago; I have this tiny feeling that, and I'll explain why in a second, Dainsleif re-wrote Lumine into Irminsul as an attempt to save her. Dainsleif, the "Bough Keeper", theoretically involved with Irminsul, used to travel with Lumine. He once mentioned, "...unfortunately, we did not reach the end of our journeys together" (paraphrased). Nahida just showed us you can re-write (or un-write) someone's existence, and she also said that towards the end of Lumine's journey, something weird happens, and she believes there's something, or someone, at play. Which brings me back to Dainsleif saying "Defeat me, command me to step aside, show me that you are worthier than I to rescue her. Then, the threads of all fate are yours to re-weave." in the travail trailer. (focus on the usage of re-weave) Now, this is where I believe the Abyss is involved, and why Dainsleif has such hatred for them. The Abyss is from "beyond this world" as you concluded in this video, so Lumine's records going aloof towards the end of her journey aligns with Dainsleif saying they didn't reach the end of their journeys together. I'm still bewildered why she's written into Irminsul and became part of this world though, but simply assuming Dainsleif is somehow at play is for now just the most logical theory for me. We should know more about this later on. She was mentioned to have suddenly appeared AFTER the Cataclysm, and she said this world is not safe(? or accepting? i forgor) to outlanders. Which is why I think Dainsleif tried helping her there, but I'm completely unsure.
@zLx_ART
@zLx_ART Жыл бұрын
that is a very logical theory damn
@louloudaki_
@louloudaki_ Жыл бұрын
i like this! it could explain why dain is even relevant to traveler past a tense alliance
@horizon146
@horizon146 Жыл бұрын
@@louloudaki_ Yeah! I feel like this at least gives us an idea why he strongly battles and hates the Abyss. He's very mysterious, but he obviously feels very strongly against the Abyss, and towards Lumine, too. Another theory is the Abyss wrote Lumine into Teyvat in order to trick her (which explains why she called it her 'homeland'), and Dain, being the Bough Keeper, is aware she's not originally supposed to be part of Irminsul, and therefore Teyvat, and is trying to save her by writing her *out of* Irminsul. Sadly I feel like this makes what he says in the travail trailer make less sense, but who knows.
@gabito6559
@gabito6559 Жыл бұрын
Thus Spoke Apocalypse
@horizon146
@horizon146 Жыл бұрын
@@gabito6559 our sister is secretly the Kallen Kaslana of Teyvat 🙏
@frolovartur1986
@frolovartur1986 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if anyone already did, but I would like to remind you of Venti's greeting line. It implies a level of familiarity between mc and himself, and Venti is taken aback by the fact that mc doesn't know him. Could Venti be lying and actually be immune but aware of Irminsul memory manipulation?
@shadowfan8217
@shadowfan8217 Жыл бұрын
That could actually make sense. We know that anemo archon has some sort of relationship with the God of time, which is a shade of Phanes or The First who came that majority believes to be The Heavenly Principles mentioned by Nahida. So Venti could somehow retain his memories by being somehow connected to the being that's from beyond Teyvat.
@rimyo6164
@rimyo6164 Жыл бұрын
venti said he know every song from the past and future due to his connection with the god of time, so its likely that venti saw the future about their friendship
@fishiefish6179
@fishiefish6179 Жыл бұрын
@@shadowfan8217 when Nahida mentions The Heavenly Principles, she is talking about The Sustainer of Heavenly Principles, not Phanes. In the dialogue about what she and Dottore spoke about she says, “I’m sure you remember the entity that changed your fate- The Heavenly Principles.”
@shadowfan8217
@shadowfan8217 Жыл бұрын
@@fishiefish6179 but from Before sun and moon we know that it was Phanes who is known to be The first who came which lines up with Nahida calling the first descender The Heavenly principles. But overall, we know too little to try to pinpoint the identity of each one
@fishiefish6179
@fishiefish6179 Жыл бұрын
@@shadowfan8217 Easy solution to that: Nahida doesn’t know about Phanes. Just because Nahida says she believes the Sustainer is the first descender doesn’t mean she’s right. She even makes an explicit point that this is only her own hypothesis.
@sips9066
@sips9066 Жыл бұрын
I think you actually answered your own question about Eleazar vs. the Withering-- Eleazar is more of a form of corruption, while the Withering is like pollution. When Irminsul was restored, it seems it could be possible that the things that had been scrambled up (like what Eleazar did) were put back in order, but things that were polluted with new "data" will still need manual recovery. Great video as always though :)) love your Scara analysis as always... so excited for more of him
@JohnCivor
@JohnCivor Жыл бұрын
Yeah this is what i thought too... Ashikai already presents the answer to her question.
@1sk1erka
@1sk1erka Жыл бұрын
exactly! but also the withering is a game mechanic in some way, many dendroculi[?] and chests are locked behind them so getting rid of them would kinda be weird
@effortlessfury
@effortlessfury Жыл бұрын
There's also the element to consider that the people's dreams were taken by Rukkhadevata to help expunge the Forbidden Knowledge from Irminsul, and as she returned them to the people, people's Eleazar was cured. It could then be surmised that people's own dreams returning to them cured their Eleazar. The forest, however, is being corrupted by Marana's Avatar, who still exists in the world despite Forbidden Knowledge being removed from Irminsul (considering you can do the entire Aranara quest after finishing Act 5). So, whatever the reason is that Marana's Avatar can still exist in the world (and whatever Marana's Avatar is, exactly) would be the reason why the Withering persists while Eleazar does not.
@jaxlone997
@jaxlone997 Жыл бұрын
I don’t really understand this, if that new data was forbidden knowledge, then it should’ve just been removed from this world with Rukk.
@sips9066
@sips9066 Жыл бұрын
@@1sk1erka yep, there’s always actual game mechanics to consider behind lore as well :P it may not be as deep as this but it was just what I thought at first hearing her questions
@gmoney9469
@gmoney9469 Жыл бұрын
I was worried that it would feel really rushed since it felt that the set up was just finished after the first four acts. But it turned out great. The plan actually felt clever without feeling contrived and made taking down the academia in a single act believable.
@minarose8723
@minarose8723 Жыл бұрын
I think Traveler being hostile with Signora when he saw her again is understandable considering the fact the npc who was our friend died and traveler was still blinded by rage. While when he met Scaramouche in the archon quest he was much calmer like he usually is
@hmstransit909
@hmstransit909 Жыл бұрын
That's because we're already bombarded with his backstory before meeting him again. His sob story, his family ties with Ei, and him protecting us unwittingly from Dottore's goons make our stance on him soften
@girlscum
@girlscum Жыл бұрын
I love this whole video but seeing someone actually analyze Scaramouche makes me so happy. I like his character a lot, and its disheartening to see so many of his fans seem to take his actions at face value. I don't know, just having some recognition that he does not actually see himself as this grand, mighty figure is really nice.
@hadhuda12ify
@hadhuda12ify Жыл бұрын
i agree, im happy that ashikai is a scara fan too so she cares enough to analyze his character more interestingly than other ppl
@SunsetTwist
@SunsetTwist Жыл бұрын
Same here, he's slowly becoming one of my favorite characters, but this is so sad. It specially sucks seeing so many people condemn him without analizing him because even if he's a fictional character he reflects the reality of so many people who grow up in environments of negligence or abuse.
@acedias12
@acedias12 Жыл бұрын
Well, that's how it goes for everything in this world. The majority tend to judge things by just the surface level and cannot be bothered to consider things any further than that.
@louloudaki_
@louloudaki_ Жыл бұрын
he’s still annoying and i’m glad we got to slap the mech suit but i’m just glad he’s becoming a full character instead of just “annoying and rude and evil and stuff”. i can’t wait for him to become a fuller character too, when he gives travelers question more thought. i really want to like him as a character
@potatocat2445
@potatocat2445 Жыл бұрын
i mean, his actions lead him to judge every human/god so it isn't weird that people don't like him. His sad and misunderstood self doesn't negate the wrongs he did to innocent people. He's still an interesting character and i like how he sticks to his values (although ethically wrong). I'm not a fan of his because of how bratty his personality is (an extreme edgy boi lol) but i do pity of what he ended up becoming
@gabrielangelosenramoura9462
@gabrielangelosenramoura9462 Жыл бұрын
Ashikai really pulled a therapy session in the Scaramouche part and i was not ready for it I'm feeling feelings 😭😭😭
@wolfkitty42
@wolfkitty42 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t make the connection that Scaramouche might be going through depression until now and it hurts so much more. My brother has been depressed for the past few years and I wasn’t expecting Ashikai to bring this up tbh.
@Klayasae
@Klayasae Жыл бұрын
I felt a lot of emotions during this whole playthrough but the fact Nahida basically had to delete her mom from existence is what brought me to tears...and then we got the double whammy of that massive lore drop!
@SnowFox-gv2rn
@SnowFox-gv2rn Жыл бұрын
I know! I think this was the first moment that something in Genshin made me cry. I’ve seen emotional fan made comics before, but this was straight from the game itself. It was very sad, but beautifully written. It also broke my heart when Nahida asked why she was crying even though they won. It’s confusing to be hurting when you don’t know why you’re hurting
@spacejunk2186
@spacejunk2186 Жыл бұрын
Its kind of weird. Did all the books also magically change their text?
@SnowFox-gv2rn
@SnowFox-gv2rn Жыл бұрын
@@spacejunk2186 Yeah, anything mentioning the Greater Lord (don’t remember how to spell her name) is either replaced with the Lesser Lord or something else. Everything about her has been erased from the memories of Tevat and only the Traveler remembers
@Ems001
@Ems001 Жыл бұрын
@@spacejunk2186 I suppose if she’s erased from everyone’s memories even the people who wrote them would have forgotten throughout time so they would never have written that. I’m thinking like a back to the future ‘don’t screw up your parent’s relationship or you’ll never exist’ moment ?? Idk if that makes sense but it’s just an idea cos if makoto’s tree could be always there even in the past then wouldn’t also be able to change the people of the past’s perceptions and memories too??
@Crusader050
@Crusader050 Жыл бұрын
I want to say Dottore is a special case among the harbingers, in that he really is a scholar at heart and probably cares a tiny bit more about his research and experiments than the agenda of the Tsaritsa and the other harbingers. If that's the case, it would make sense he would have a bit more respect for Nahida as the god of wisdom and negotiate with her instead of using force.
@ClaraLeoKei
@ClaraLeoKei 6 ай бұрын
I am watching this after the 4.2 Archon Quest and am fully amazed how the fontaine archon quest lined up perfectly with what you said about the fifth chess match. Very interesting going forward!
@MiyuKawasaki
@MiyuKawasaki 3 ай бұрын
It's the third chess match Match 1 - Mondstadt + Liyue + Inazuma Match 2 - Sumeru Match 3 - Fontaine Match 4 - Natlan Match 5 - Snezhnaya Match 6 - Khaenri'ah
@Kaeyeimiya
@Kaeyeimiya 2 күн бұрын
I shouted that at my phone while listening! Haha! 😊🎉
@cdv3401
@cdv3401 Жыл бұрын
19:13 I think Wei proposed the theory that the Archons (+Yae Miko on Ei’s behalf) are actually aware of the Tsaritsa’s goal and have been letting her take the gnoses willingly but under the guise that the Fatui Harbingers are stealing/forcing them to. I don’t think the Tsaritsa wants to harm the other Archons since they used to be friends apparently. And Dottore respects her so he followed her instructions to make deals with Nahida rather than use violence. Venti, Alice, and Yae Miko all being old friends makes me think there’s a secret international “overthrow celestia” club. It also could have just been a difference in Rosalyne and Dottore’s characters. Rosalyne loathed Barbatos for not saving Rostam so her violence against him while taking his gnosis was personal and in character for her. Whereas Dottore (presumably Zandik) might not have any personal animosity against his Archon nor does he see a reason to exert himself and use violence to get what he wants when he can just talk his way into getting 2 gnoses. Edit: We also see that Signora attempted to bargain for the Geo and Electro Gnoses too. She literally just wanted to physically hurt Venti as far as I can tell.
@autumnidkk
@autumnidkk Жыл бұрын
Yep plus I doubt the Tsaritsa wanted Signora to beat Venti’s ass like that lol that was her own thing. The relationships she shared with all the other archons (especially Venti) went to hell but there’s nothing to gain by forcefully taking it from them. Venti didn’t put up much of a fight or seem to care about it being taken from him so he may have already been expecting it.
@grande6670
@grande6670 Жыл бұрын
I heard somewhere that Yae Miko didn't really care about Dottore using Scaramouche like a puppet even though she knew of Scaras suffering and how he wasn't fully a robot, he has feelings and a concious. So your theory would explain that! Yae was going along with Dottore so their plans could succeed even further! Also Yae is so sus guys, what happened to the other fox friend of ei?? People think that she killed her or sm 😭
@Alex-vv2ud
@Alex-vv2ud Жыл бұрын
They are aware of Heaven intervention if gnoses would be destroyed, everything is better than another calamity
@vergiltasev7108
@vergiltasev7108 Жыл бұрын
I like the idea of the international "overthrow celestia" club. It would be like anytime we go to a new region and get into trouble we come into contact with a faction that wants to change the status quo, but now it's on a world scale
@jonnysetzler5859
@jonnysetzler5859 Жыл бұрын
@@autumnidkk the other harbingers also don’t seem to approve of how she got the gnosis, Capitano says “her methods tarnished her honor” in the Lazzo teaser
@darkentePH
@darkentePH Жыл бұрын
About Dottore not going agressive with Nahida, I have three takes: 1. Heavenly Principles, maybe killing an ARCHON of all things can make Celestia "wake up", declaring a second archon war, one thing is getting chess pieces, other thing is actually destroying the system by removing the "moderators" of Teyvat 2. As Tartaglia says "Tsaritsa is a gentle soul", while she and the fatui have this "bad side" to them, she will not opt for unnecessary killing and destruction, if they do that they will be no different from the heavenly principles. And so the harbingers problaby need to follow a rule of "no extreme violence" to the archons and the people of teyvat, unless necessary (that would explain why the harbingers don't do free killing, like how Dottore just decided to not go nuts with Tighnari) 3. getting too aggressive can make the entire of Teyvat declare war to snezhnaya, being diplomatic and just removing a gnosis can avoid this. The fatui operation is just going smooth due to the effects of the cataclysm into each archon, making them question Celestia (or in case of Nahida, being jailed), but if the Fatui start getting REALLY aggressive, that mindset can change If the fatui had this liberty to choose violence, they would just get all harbingers together and go into a complete Teyvat sweep, getting the gnosis in like 2 months, however they actually go into well-constructed plans, even sacrificing some harbingers (like Signora or Scara) for the sake of it.
@Alex-vv2ud
@Alex-vv2ud Жыл бұрын
Exactly Fatui do whatever they can, because if they awake heavenly Principles they got destroyed. Also they have already collected 5 gnoses and have Harbingers which powers can be comparable to gods. And above that they know truth about world. Archons fought in Khaeanriah and really don't want to calamity happen again do they don't hold to their gnoses to much. But what gnoses power really mean? Zhongli lost his status as geo archon, don't know if this happens after he lost gnosis or false death.And visions don't come from archons then from where?, Celestia is absent, Heavenly Principles don't care now.
@nawawii3750
@nawawii3750 Жыл бұрын
Nahida already knows everything Fatui do, and probably everything Tsaritsa do.. she can simply extract such knowledge from Irminsul. So to exchange knowledge with Nahida for the Gnosis is impressive. Because it's knowledge that Irminsul purposefully hide from the world and from the Dendro archon as well. Also .. greater lord getting tasked to go to Irminsul and not Khaenraia during cataclysm is also major. It mean Celestia was overwhelmed.. they had to fight in all fronts at once, even at the Irminsul that no one should access but Dendro archon. I think Khaenraia pulled something like what Al-Haytham did .. they could find a data hub, and inserted forbidden knowledge into it that it reached Irminsul. Then Irminsul started to spread it over the entire world. Archons not immune to such forbidden knowledge, so they were fighting a losing battle.. only Asmoday with her space magic could contain the forbidden knowledge in cubes, stripping people and places from their souls in the process. I'm starting to believe Makoto didn't just die or get killed in Khaenraia.. she might have been purposefully sacrificed by other archons to trigger insanely strong destruction to give archons an edge. Which make sense why Makoto wanted to hide Ei, she didn't want them sacrificing Ei again..that would too cruel on both sisters. Makoto getting the seed of Sacred Sakura in Khaenraia mean that not only space shade/Asmoday/sustainer was there.. but also Istaroth was there. Which mean, Celestia had mobilized everything in the face of that cataclysm.. and they got heavy casualties. Now all of this should connect to the second descender, the one who brought alien things into Tyvat. Khaenraia must have reached his prison or gained his knowledge and triggered a second world ending event.
@MNM2INC
@MNM2INC Жыл бұрын
uhh the fatui def wouldn't be able to just sweep and get the gnosis that easily and quickly if they chose full violence, it'd prob be way harder for them lol. like u said the hostile approach wud make nations respond aggressively back. no matter how strong snezhnaya is even they would struggle against military demi-gods of liyue, inazuma and possibly fontaine/natlan. they would stand no chance if those nations ever formed alliances too. especially knowing that trying to start a war of that scale will prob awaken celestia that could lead to another cataclysm.
@Alex-vv2ud
@Alex-vv2ud Жыл бұрын
@@MNM2INC What would archons do? Venti can reveal himself as drunken bard and lead weakest forces of all regions. Zhongli just faked his death, even after revealing it wasn't true, he lost many believers as well his force, but he could get quite strong army Raiden need first control her county, can't go on war with another god Nahida is trapped, Dottore control Sumeru, which mean they join Fatui 2 vs 5 regions maybe even 3 vs 4 Other regions sure have serious problems to be solved first Verdict: even by force Sheznaya wins, but Heaven step down and destroy Fatui
@ragnarok3839
@ragnarok3839 Жыл бұрын
@@Alex-vv2ud only 1-3 of the harbingers are god level, everyone below is adpeti/demi god level or weaker. They would have to send their strongest just to deal with Liyue because Xiao,Shenhe and the adepti. Then there's other regions with people who have unknown power like Lisa, Varka and Miko where no one really knows how strong they are.
@unsecretcrush
@unsecretcrush Жыл бұрын
I’m a little embarrassed that I didn’t consider the parallels between Scaramouche and Nahida until you pointed them out. Like I was aware of the tragedies of their circumstances individually of course, but never considered them as mirrors of the other. Also the possibility that history can be rewritten at any time is just a wee bit mind melting…
@owlkur
@owlkur Жыл бұрын
The knowledge of the Descenders and the Traveler being the Fourth Descender hyped me up, this is huge
@Natsu
@Natsu Жыл бұрын
26:20 - I stumbled upon one world quest with Aranara ("Until Vana is Healed") where Rukkhadevata's name wasn't erased after completing Archon Quest. It didn't make any sense for Ararycan to remember her, so I believe this and other places where Rukkha's name still exists might be just game errors, rather than something connected to lore.
@TheCheeseman1983
@TheCheeseman1983 Жыл бұрын
I agree. It’s one reason I am always very skeptical of lore analyses that rely on very specific, isolated pieces of information. We have to remember that, even though HoYo does an amazing job with their attention to detail, we are seeing a story written by people, and translated into a second language. There will be errors, omissions, and even outright mistakes on the part of the writers. I’ve heard that famous novelists have relied on fan wikis for their works to keep track of their own universe’s continuity, because fans often pay way more attention than they do. ;-)
@ToscaTee
@ToscaTee Жыл бұрын
Yeah they’d likely fix that in future updates if it’s ever brought up to their attention
@katcrow
@katcrow Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one who when Nahida referred to the heavenly principles as an entity of some kind I was shocked? I thought before that it was more a set of rules or laws set by Celestia/the sustainer and finding out that's actually the name of either someone or someoneS was surprising to me
@cactus_prickles
@cactus_prickles Жыл бұрын
Yeah same I always thought it was a set of laws from Celestia or something but I haven’t heard anyone really talk about it
@ch.7785
@ch.7785 Жыл бұрын
i think that the sustainer itself is the law of heavenly principles. they are one and the same entity since nahida mentioned that "the heavenly principles who stole your sibling"
@Wolf_Spark
@Wolf_Spark Жыл бұрын
The Heavenly Principles is the Sustainer, somehow Global messed up the translation of the text and name. In the asian translation she referrers to herself as the Heavenly Principles not the sustainer. A lot of these miss translations have messed up some of the theories in the beginning when people found out about this issue.
@katcrow
@katcrow Жыл бұрын
@@Wolf_Spark OH wow okay thank you this changes everything lmao
@controlcon
@controlcon Жыл бұрын
@@Wolf_Spark i think in the beginning of the game, a lot of translations are a little different because the localization team likely didn't have a good grasp or understanding of genshin terms and lore like how they do now lol
@calyxconcision
@calyxconcision Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I share that theory Ei made Scaramouche in Makoto's image and it's also why I think it's part of the reason she sealed his powers and sent him to sleep for eternity. She noticed he shed tears in dreams, thus deeming him too fragile for the task of storing her Gnosis, and because Makoto was also a gentle god who "barely wielded a blade in her life" ( quoted from Ei's 2nd story quest ), Ei was reminded of Makoto and was afraid Scaramouche would share her fate if she kept him as a puppet for her divine will. It could be a reach, but it makes sense in my little jingling brain, I suppose.
@Elliellie
@Elliellie Жыл бұрын
I thought so too! And in Archon's time span, it probably wasn't that long since Makoto's death. And after witnessing how heavy the gnosis was to bear to a non deity/archon being, she made an impulse decision in discarding him, stopped bothering with creating anything to hold the gnosis, and made a puppet based on herself, and gave it to Yae Miko.
@calyxconcision
@calyxconcision Жыл бұрын
@@Elliellie Agreed. I think she made him 100 - 200 years after Makoto's death, which is barely anything compared to Archons who have lived for close to 3000 years, and even 500 is considered young for a deity.
@piwi2775
@piwi2775 Жыл бұрын
Seeing the sibling getting captured cutscene again. It looked like the sustainer of heavenly principles broke down the sibling into smaller cubes, maybe smaller data chunks. While the traveler was captured completely. This might explain why Irmunsul thinks that the sibling is from this world because his existence was inputted into the Irmunsul by the Sustainer. While we were just left into this world, probably to do a mission with Paimon guiding us.
@BonfimGamer
@BonfimGamer Жыл бұрын
The Fatui are loyal to the Tsaritsa, an Archon, so I think it makes sense that they have some respect for them and do not act with violence. Like, if you question and confront all archons, it may affect how you view your own archon, and she probably doesn't want that happening, so she might have forbid them from acting like that to the other gods.
@Raptor850
@Raptor850 Жыл бұрын
Something that got me thinking about this quest is that all these negative phenomena like elezar and the withering are not caused by the forbidden knowledge itself, they are just a consequence of the world trying to reject this knowledge. Perhaps Irminsul already knows what this knowledge consists of but tries to hide it (as Dottore mentions) and all these phenomena are a punishment for trying to access it.
@grande6670
@grande6670 Жыл бұрын
Like maybe celestia doesn't want Teyvat to know about the stuff outside of their world bc of the Hershers from honkai?? Like celestia is tryna control/protect Teyvat from messing up its own existence
@ivanseryogin6526
@ivanseryogin6526 Жыл бұрын
@@grande6670 i mean i understand why if i ever have to fight husk nihilus in genshin i will probably break my fucking keyboard
@vanessachowjiaying4423
@vanessachowjiaying4423 Жыл бұрын
@@grande6670 Part of it. As Gun Girls Z, Honkai, Genshin, and Star Rail are from the same multiverse, being worlds connected to the Imaginary Tree, the possibility of the theory was high. In the captainverse stories in Honkai, and the worlds/universes visited by the Astral Express crew in Star Rail, the key terminologies in HI3 have different naming senses/methods of executions, in a way allow the stories to be standalone to some extent. So far characters from Genshin have aspects of several individuals from their sister games; - Archon abilities are co-related to Herrschers and Divine Keys - 11 Fatui Harbringers are mirror/parallel of the 13 Flamechasers, in terms of character traits, abilities and methods, though with the same cause - Traveller's abilities parallel the Key of Blankness; gain specific skills/abilities depending on the Herrscher core/elemental power taken in.
@tobyharris4777
@tobyharris4777 Жыл бұрын
I'm not so sure Honkai are an actual threat to Teyvat. With time in Teyvat acting all funky, it seems more likely to exist in the sea of quanta, with Irminsul basically acting as a faux world tree to stop everything being 'burned away'. Wherever Teyvat IS located, I don't think it's on the world tree. It's unclear if Honkai exists/are active in the sea of quanta. Who knows? Our information on the Honkai that we're provided with is technically speculation anyway.
@vanessachowjiaying4423
@vanessachowjiaying4423 Жыл бұрын
@@tobyharris4777 based on Sun and Moon book, plus information from their sister game Honkai, the Irminsul could be an Ether Anchor. The Gnosis system is also similar to the 7 gems on Durandal's sword in London Holidays manga, which highlights more on bubble universes, ether anchors and Sea of Quanta. It can be assumed that Teyvat was originally a bubble universe sinking into the sea of quanta, the vishaps are Honkai beasts in different terms. The primodial one (assumed to be Griseo) found it and uses the ether anchor to support the world. Even though it helps kerping the world together, the problem is the limited energy, resulted in unstable time flow/memory.
@IAmDAN004
@IAmDAN004 Жыл бұрын
37:19 Let me guess: our sibling "traveled" twice, once before Khaenriah and once again after The one before Khaenriah was the travel they did with Dainsleif The one after Khaenriah was coincidentally the travel that Irminsul recorded, and it's most likely after they and Dainsleif part ways Our sibling most likely became part of Abyss Order at around that time too I think the next "Traveler" Archon Quest is going to tackle this lore deeper
@kehan6252
@kehan6252 Жыл бұрын
Your theory actually makes sense. Venti said that there's a meaning in our journey so our sibling traveled the world (we don't really know if they traveled in Teyvat or Khaenriah) first with Dain, she reached the end of her journey but we don't know what her conclusion was. Then after the cataclysm she traveled the world again (maybe she traveled around Khaenriah first and then traveled in Teyvat) and found her answer. One thing I'm most concerned about is how both siblings ended up in Teyvat or Khaenriah if they were captured by the Unknown God. She could've imprisoned them or simply killed them, I don't think she would intentionally drop them in Teyvat (unless she considers 'a prison') since she our 'journey ends here'. So I believe 'some unknown entity' took us and our sibling and dropped us in different points in time. Notice that we only appeared 500 years later and this is the exact time that all the major events in Teyvat are taking place.
@gamalielmartinez2238
@gamalielmartinez2238 Жыл бұрын
I have really grown to love Scaramouche as a fully own character and I really like his lore which is amazingly done.
@asdqwertyonly09
@asdqwertyonly09 Жыл бұрын
The abyss twin could have been changed by Celestia when the curse was placed. This explains why Irminsul has a record of her and states that she “suddenly” arrived in Khaenriah. Its also suprising that she started to travel AFTER the cataclysm. I’ve always thought that it was before
@jadecoolness101
@jadecoolness101 Жыл бұрын
I mean I think Lumine just traveled with Dainsleif before Khaenri'ah fell. We were already pretty close to Paimon by the time we got to Liyue, so it's not as if Lumine had to travel through every nation to develop a camaraderie with him. Plus them also both being in Khaenri'ah.
@captaindanger13
@captaindanger13 Жыл бұрын
i wonder if she traveled both before and after the cataclysm but was only starting to be recorded after arriving in khaenriah. idk how that would work tho.
@autumnidkk
@autumnidkk Жыл бұрын
This was the conclusion I came to as well. I mean they were literally split up so it makes sense.
@nawawii3750
@nawawii3750 Жыл бұрын
The curse was placed on people on "higher level of reality" , so it's not Celestia doing , but more like the abyss doing. Lumine was taken by the abyss, and Aether nightmare in Chasm bed quest was that abyss took his sister..
@beltorcaetano3499
@beltorcaetano3499 Жыл бұрын
@@nawawii3750 why do u think celestia has not the hability to do that?
@coffeeshampoo87
@coffeeshampoo87 Жыл бұрын
Imagine at the end we find out that the entire lore of genshin is a roundabout analogy of us literally being in a computer game. The design choices of Nahida struck me especially how Electro and Dendro synergize so well. What if Nahida is just the system admin in charge of managing Genshin's data files and the final boss would actually be Dawei himself
@Suelve20
@Suelve20 Жыл бұрын
Yeeees!! I thought about it too I usually find these ending (“it was just a dream”) to be a lazy approach, but since this game will be there for at least 5 more years it would be an epic ending to this exciting journey!
@Suelve20
@Suelve20 Жыл бұрын
It also makes me think of that login screen (the door). We are basically entering the world of Teyvat (as descendent) every single time, and it has been in front of our eyes this whole time. Now I will think about this theory constantly
@tf6026
@tf6026 Жыл бұрын
my thought exactly with the traveler not being of this world since they are "us" the player and the sibling coming to existence the moment we pick the other one. We are obviously not of the world of the game but everything else is.
@Suelve20
@Suelve20 Жыл бұрын
@@tf6026 The Heavenly Principles could be a representation of Hoyoverse, as they make the rules and story of this game. Not sure who/what could be the other 2 descendents. Maybe the Community? It’s an interesting theory though
@nawawii3750
@nawawii3750 Жыл бұрын
@@Suelve20 Heavenly principles is the community Manager, banning and deleting forbidden posts. Other descenders are alpha and beta testers
@supremacy98
@supremacy98 Жыл бұрын
When scaramouche was finally defeated, the way he begged for nahida not to take the electro gnosis from him was so sad I almost felt bad for him
@dungaloidblastobrain9515
@dungaloidblastobrain9515 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the whole "Dottore not attacking nahida and instead taking the deal" thing, I think it might be a case of killing archons just being a bad thing in general. In zhongli's story quest we see the aftermath of the death of the salt god, who we hear about in that quest as not being that strong either, yet her death killed every single person in that little underground town. If Dottore attacked nahida, he may risk killing her, and if she dies, well who the hell knows what'd happen to sumeru, or dottore who's in the "Blast zone" so to speak
@habama1077
@habama1077 8 ай бұрын
Or... the fact that she is essentially the only one at this point who can deal with threats to the ley-lines. I don't think the Fatui would want to deal with that kind of thing, let alone have the ability. Well, to be fair, the Fatui had no issues handling divine knowledge, with the possibility of inflicting Irminsul with the very same forbidden knowledge that Rukkhadevata tried to contain. But.. I don't think anyone (apart from us) even knew that that's possible, so I'm assuming they didn't knowingly endanger the system. But I think they _do_ know that Kusanali is the only one who can actually help if _something_ goes wrong with the tree (as is recorded in history), so maybe it's beneficial to keep her around.
@aurelia8235
@aurelia8235 Жыл бұрын
I think the Sumeru Archon quests aren't finished yet. From the Genshin main trailer, every nation has a specific chapter name, and these chapter names actually appear as quest titles in game. For Sumeru, the chapter title was "The Truth Amongst the Pages of Purana" which we haven't seen in game yet, so I'm excited to see what happens next.
@irinechemist2550
@irinechemist2550 Жыл бұрын
We haven't see any tree burned yet so that might be it. I swear Hoyoverse be baiting us with this happy ending.
@mars9986
@mars9986 Жыл бұрын
@@irinechemist2550 I was wondering about that. It seemed like a proper conclusion so I just summed up the burning imagery of the tree to be symbolism for corruption, but there might just be more to the story.
@023Whiplash
@023Whiplash Жыл бұрын
@@irinechemist2550 it was symbolic…
@023Whiplash
@023Whiplash Жыл бұрын
We still have 2 more area’s to go in Sumeru so? Yeah its not done yet
@volkanuzug1824
@volkanuzug1824 Жыл бұрын
@@023Whiplash aether in livestream said something like sumeru quest is not complete yet
@l3ossTharatep
@l3ossTharatep Жыл бұрын
I believe the reason why the appearance of remnant of Rukkhadevata looked like Nahida's is because that she exhausted her power during the Cataclysm which changed her teenage form into child-like form since this was the second time that she exhausted her power. The first time was when she assisted King Deshret to repel forbidden knowledge a thousand year ago and that caused her appearance to be changed from adult to teenager.
@nawawii3750
@nawawii3750 Жыл бұрын
Rukkhadevata didn't shrink in the cataclysm.
@l3ossTharatep
@l3ossTharatep Жыл бұрын
@@nawawii3750 Well, I think she did. At least in my opinion, if you look at the ending animatic cutscene in Archon quest 3 part 3, you are gonna see that her form was changed from adult-like to teenager-like. But, in the cutscene where Greater lord Rukkhadevata was snapping the branch out of Irmunsul tree. You can see that her appearance was in child-like state as that of Nahida's which implied that her form has changed another time during the cataclysm due to power exhaustion and she ultimately died after Nahida's creation (I think this used every last drop of her remaining power).
@eliashernanflechasanchez9776
@eliashernanflechasanchez9776 6 ай бұрын
Girl, coming back to this after the fontain archon quest and checking your gnosis(chess game) approach, we could definitely see the draw on the match, I am just so hype and wonder if you will bring this up on the video about 4.2, I just needed to share this insight , because o my, celestia won( the prophecy was fulfilled) but also fontainians(and by extend the fatui,they got the gnosis) won, so ita so crazy that this theory cannot be discarded just yet. Those are just my thoughts, love to hear yours!!!
@Kaeyeimiya
@Kaeyeimiya 2 күн бұрын
Yes yes 🎉 I shouted out that the Fatui got the gnosis but also Focalors secret plan ALSO worked and that was hidden from everyone else etc,..
@melemerald6651
@melemerald6651 4 ай бұрын
34:00 damn, that was mind-blowing about how accurate you were 😮
@idminister
@idminister Жыл бұрын
Something that I found super concerning, is that despide not being subject to the authority of the iriumsul's memories, Dottore's illusion move still worked on the traveler.
@racool911
@racool911 Жыл бұрын
What illusion move?
@jonnevitu4979
@jonnevitu4979 Жыл бұрын
I mean, I dont remember exactly if it was the 1.2 event or archon quests but Albedo says the traveler is basically 100% human
@palmarinrhea6985
@palmarinrhea6985 Жыл бұрын
@@jonnevitu4979 not human but "mortal"
@alexander_dead_again4533
@alexander_dead_again4533 Жыл бұрын
@@racool911 I think they were talking about the ship scene where the fatui soldiers disappeared
@idminister
@idminister Жыл бұрын
@@racool911 At port ormos, where the traveler with dehya is sneaking around all the fatui in a stealth section to get to dottore. And then at the end Dottore beckons to them in hiding whilst starting to sail away and all the fatui soldiers, agents, and other members suddently disappear ie they were an illusion that dottore cast upon the traveler and dehya.
@Ranakel
@Ranakel Жыл бұрын
What I really appreciate is that this chapter as a whole, while closing its internal story pretty neatly, still managed to do just so much setup work it's unreal. The fine crafstmanship of making you satisfied, and yet wanting for more is fully at work
@marcusbullock2753
@marcusbullock2753 Жыл бұрын
I think my fav part of this quest is all of Dottore Segment clones interactions. If you pay close attention you can tell they all sound different but the cast in game can’t tell the difference. I wonder if Al Haithum would be able to figure it out.
@ArgoBargo
@ArgoBargo Жыл бұрын
When nahida asked if scara knew how many times he’d tried to take her gnosis I got literal chills. That’s never happened from genshin. Also I was right about nahida being an irminsul kinda
@asoret
@asoret Жыл бұрын
I got chills with the new tittle for the traveller, the first sage of buer, the scene was so epic and never happened to me before, we hear hero a lot, favonius knight is kinda ok and inazuma one seems like a meme, hate that we didn't get to see much being a captain there, but this sumeru one was just perfect, so good
@starshadow4
@starshadow4 Жыл бұрын
My theory about the twins after finishing this quest is that they were once one singular being. After arriving in Teyvat they got split into two for some reason and their memories were altered so that they think it was always the two of them. Would explain why the abyss twin is from this world while the traveler isn't. From what I remember, the opening showed the twins as two stars flying very close to each other through the sky. This might've been right after the split happened. ALSO, the battle pass cutscene (which has been the same since 1.0, might I add) very likely was inspired by the story of Adam and Eve. Who's to say that that story wasn't used as the basis for something else in Genshin?
@mars9986
@mars9986 Жыл бұрын
Even if it's not true... This is a very fun idea!
@doodleview
@doodleview Жыл бұрын
The BP story was probably inspired by the Hymn of the Pearl, a 1st or 2nd century gnostic hymn. It's very cool and worth reading.
@isaberuuu
@isaberuuu Жыл бұрын
I really loved this Archon Quest a lot, relative to the other regions it had peak storytelling and no part was wasted. Everything we encountered from the start was slotted into a role of some kind by the end. It was a whole roller coaster. Thank you for this video!!! It is so well-explained, looking forward to discover/read more about the game's lore 🙂
@fardareismai4495
@fardareismai4495 Жыл бұрын
Ikr?! Even seemingly throwaway lines in act two like the mention of the public performance prohibition act being implemented on the next Jnagarbha day. Excellent Chekov's guns all around!
@asoret
@asoret Жыл бұрын
I loved it too, but to be honest to me the worst part was going to the desert, it takes so long until you reach interesting things, with all the talking with random npc
@xienti4416
@xienti4416 4 ай бұрын
34:14 Watching this after release of fontaine, I am amazed how (nearly) everything you predicted turned out to be true, WOAH
@teenyweenyfettuccine3532
@teenyweenyfettuccine3532 Жыл бұрын
regarding scara, an interesting note about his theme - there's this beautiful section of about 20ish seconds with a solo male (tenor) voice which gradually climbs, it sounds like heaving and struggling and heavy breathing patterns; devastating, really - well it just so happens that this is the only part of the theme in japanese (according to the lyrics transcription i found), which is so cool bc it symbolizes that the munchkin didn't scrub away *every* last bit of human emotion :') (the part that comes immediately after is in latin, and the music devices used make it sound very contemplative and like he's listing things, which could signify him questioning whether what he's doing is the right thing to do, it's very very cool) edit: i realize this sounds weird without the musical context, but the "heaving" part starts at around 01:00 and the "contemplation" at around 01:11 in one of the full boss theme videos
@KromeLazarus
@KromeLazarus Жыл бұрын
Yes. One of my fave Lore in the game covered by one of my fave Lore Hunters and recap is here. A bit of Addendum: But all of the Village Keepers are also actually gain their Sanity back after the Archon Quest, including Haypasia herself. You can check Isak's "grandpa" now doing better and not in a Catatonic state like before. Not only cleansing the Irminsul was saved, it cured the Eleazar and Insanity caused by the Forbidden Knowledge and Scaramouche Influence. As Nahida described, Fatui Harbinger's 3rd Rank onwards have godlike powers. She knew she won't be no match against Dottore or even Columbina, they do acknowledge that the Ranking is based both on influence, strength, and status.
@zaherbaveaur
@zaherbaveaur Жыл бұрын
10:54 qiqi got a vision right before or right after her death, she can still use it after being reborn from the adepti
@katcrow
@katcrow Жыл бұрын
If I recall it was right after! She was killed by mistake during a fight between the archons during the archon war and they all felt so awful they combined power to bring her back from the dead, and her vision is cryo bc as she was dying her last thought was how she wished she could "freeze time" in order to be with her family for longer. Then post resurrection she essentially went a bit rabid and started attacking everything so the archons trapped her in a large chunk of those orange rocks in Liyue, then Baizhu found her later during some sort of exploration I think
@watchingandvibing
@watchingandvibing Жыл бұрын
@@katcrow In my memory it wasn't really right after, so I checked the wiki (i don't play in english but CN) and it said "Or perhaps it was by the will of heaven that she received a Vision in her dying moments, and so ended this contention between adepti and demon." Dying moments doesn't really mean she's dead already...? If I'm not misremembering it's also written that way in the og chinese text
@grande6670
@grande6670 Жыл бұрын
Yeah probs bc she gave it up willingly like diluc and itto maybe she didn't want anything to do with the gods for causing her death, just didn't care bc she is a zombie.
@katcrow
@katcrow Жыл бұрын
@@watchingandvibing oops my bad! Dying moments sounds more familiar now that you showed me the quote. Thanks for the correction:)
@skobree6360
@skobree6360 Жыл бұрын
Sumeru quest is definitely my favorite. It was actually well spaced in time and made sure every character we met played their part. I'm glad they improved their story telling since Inazuma. I like how you mentioned that watching someone lose their purpose in life is hard because i saw many people accusing scaramouche stans for feeling bad that no one catched him in that moment and I think this sentence explains this feeling really well. When it comes to dottore and his negotiations i think the best way to explain is, is through archons are helping tsartista from the shadows. We have to remember nahida was closed off for 500 years and there was no way of actually communicating with her. So dottore had to come up with something that wouldn't hurt her and didn't put him in risk of her refusal since he didn't have that much time to explain. Whats weird tho is that maybe he could communicate with her while he was sealing her inside the akasha but I'm not sure, it's complicated. Anyway if we are descender number 4 then who is number 2 and 3? When it comes to our twin my brain is just empty. I wish we will get more lore soon.
@princessmeow
@princessmeow Жыл бұрын
There are hints at Alice being a traveler from another world, with all of her knowledge and even of things that don't come from Teyvat! I think Ashikai has a video on it somewhere, and it would make sense if she was. :)
@skobree6360
@skobree6360 Жыл бұрын
Good idea, that would make sense. But even so there's one more spot left I wonder how long we will have to wait for further explanation or how long we'll have to wait to actually meet Alice in person
@asoret
@asoret Жыл бұрын
Think the first is the original god that made/change the world to the one we have now, and then celestia the ones who rule now
@Mafuyu24542
@Mafuyu24542 Жыл бұрын
I love Wanderer’s colour palette he perfectly represents Fujin whereas Ei or the Shogun represents Raijin or Raiden depending on how you see it
@kravenkorvinus
@kravenkorvinus Жыл бұрын
I think the reason why the Harbingers are less violent towards the archons is because the Tsaritsa knows that the archons are more or less victims of Celestia. So it's like a "unless absolutely necessary" type thing. In Venti's case I assume it's because he's too free spirited to care about the whole thing that unless they forcibly take it from him he wouldn't have given it because he didn't care or wouldn't have at least listened to their reasoning.
@terminatorhd889
@terminatorhd889 Жыл бұрын
I personally think venti got kicked because of Signora's old beef with him XD (cataclysm stuff)
@katcrow
@katcrow Жыл бұрын
​@@terminatorhd889 agree! She viewed the loss of her lover as being Ventis fault for not being present enough as an archon so, she rly hated that him lol
@kravenkorvinus
@kravenkorvinus Жыл бұрын
@@terminatorhd889 True! hahaha
@TheCheeseman1983
@TheCheeseman1983 Жыл бұрын
I agree, I think the Archons sort of understand what the Tsaritsa is up to. They all presumably witnessed the same event that so profoundly changed her. It’s notable that Ei also chose to cut ties with Celestia afterwards, and I strongly doubt Zhongli would have made a contract with her to give up his gnosis if he thought her goals would threaten Liyue. Even Venti didn’t really seem all that worried about having his gnosis forcibly stolen. He seemed more sad about it than upset. Overall, I get the feeling that the Tsaritsa’s plans may not be particularly pleasant, but are at least justifiable in the eyes of The Seven.
@lemonbunny71
@lemonbunny71 Жыл бұрын
I still believe that Venti could have easily defeated Signora if he really wanted to. He probably knew (something of) her plan and played along with it. After all, he seems to know much more about Celestia and the Cataclysm than he is willing to share. The only archon I can see to refuse to coorpate with the Fatui is the Hydro archon.
@idminister
@idminister Жыл бұрын
Negotiating vs attacking archons: It could be that if the archon dies, even if separated from the gnosis, Celestia will automatically begin the selection of the replacement archon which will also have them retake possession of the gnosis. Data Pollution, leads me to think Teyvat is most similar to Elysian Realm from HI3. Teyvat could also be a matrix, and What makes a vision holder a vision holder is that there is an actual/dedicated human brain behind them vs computer simulation.
@Alex-vv2ud
@Alex-vv2ud Жыл бұрын
If archon died immense power is released, even when Havria god of salt died killed by human, area within certain radius was affected. So if Morax would really died in center of Lyiue equipped with gnosis power of atomic bomb.... I wonder what damage was caused by Makoto's death or other gods.
@nawawii3750
@nawawii3750 Жыл бұрын
@@Alex-vv2ud Makoto likely sacrificed herself in center of the corruption source in Khaenraia to eliminate it. If Asmoday couldn't contain two sibling to same degree, she much more likely failed to contain all corruption in Khaenraia.. and there's nothing big enough for Morax to hurl down on the place to one shot it. So the decision was made.. one archon had to die, to shut the thing down.. Makoto had a plan B for Inazuma, and she had Ei to oversee it. Only Ei view of eternity was obstacle, so Istaroth helped her plant a seed in beginning of time to give Ei .. more time.
@bookbutterfly6613
@bookbutterfly6613 Жыл бұрын
Your analysis and theory videos make me like genshin a totally normal totally not obsessive amount I won’t ever stop thinking about this anymore
@mid262
@mid262 6 ай бұрын
That chess theory about fontaine tho
@alternativealan531
@alternativealan531 Жыл бұрын
i feel like the whole reason why the fatui dont really force the archons that much may be because The Tsaritsa may harbor some affection for them. This can also explain why venti was just forced because he drew her ire in the past while raiden, zhongli, and nahida all were able to negotiate
@alternativealan531
@alternativealan531 Жыл бұрын
another thing is that it is signora's emotion. She did live in mondstadt, possibly harboring resentment towards venti for her lover's death
@ChimiChi1989
@ChimiChi1989 Жыл бұрын
I think the Dottore thing with Nahida is that even though he’s working for the Tsaritsa he is through and through a sumeru scholar so I think he still reveries the god of wisdom Also. Nahida mentions paimon and the traveler being blessed by dendro. So maybe her changes are like the traveler? Like she’s able to do or change every time the traveler gets a new blessing?
@leonvamen4565
@leonvamen4565 6 ай бұрын
34:09 LITERALLY WHAT HAPPENED😱
@NevarKanzaki
@NevarKanzaki Жыл бұрын
On the chess thing, one bit to note is that in the animation on the board, the black king and queen have inverted places as compared to the Deep Blue v Kasparov match.
@wolfkitty42
@wolfkitty42 Жыл бұрын
As someone who doesn’t understand chess, how does this change it?
@NevarKanzaki
@NevarKanzaki Жыл бұрын
@@wolfkitty42 Brushing myself back up on this, actually both the white and black have their king and queen places swapped. The Fatui are black (Kasparov) and Celestia is white (Deep Blue). In the actual game, white goes on to win. However, if you switch the places of the kings and queens (which is the case on the board, that moves takes it from being a win for white to a win for black. The pawn (Signora) was sacrificed but after this, the position is now winning for the Fatui (black). This doesn't change the overall result of the match. In the actual match, it was 4-2 is Kasparov's favor. Factoring in this change, it'd be 5-1. Though this is somewhat unrelated conjecture, Kasparov and Deep Blue have a rematch the following year and Deep Blue narrowly wins that rematch. So perhaps the Fatui will win up to the point of gathering the gnoses and all of their prep work but when they actually take on Celestia proper, they'll come up short.
@wolfkitty42
@wolfkitty42 Жыл бұрын
@@NevarKanzaki I still don’t fully understand, but thanks for the explanation!
@ignemuton5500
@ignemuton5500 Жыл бұрын
we definitely have more big lore bombs for sumeru coming, we haven't had a dainsleif quest yet and the numberless act which featured in travail "Truth amongst the pages of purana" hasn't been revealed yet despite sumeru having more archon quests than any chapter before it (if you don't count the traveler acts), Mondstadt had 3 acts and its featured act was the first, Liyue had 5 acts and its featured act was the second, Inazuma had 4 acts and its featured act was the third one (though depending on how you count it may be the 4th since inazuma had a prologue) Sumeru meanwhile has had 5, yes 5 entire acts with no traveler acts, the truth amongst the pages of purana has not been revealed yet so either sumeru is really really long, or 3.3 is going to be the end of the main quest and from then on we will get maybe 1 or 2 traveler quests.
@jsw973
@jsw973 Жыл бұрын
I really hope the truth among the pages of purana is a traveller quest... the sumeru archon quest's ending feels so fitting, it even has the epilogue of people getting together celebrating their victory.
@Justin.ol9
@Justin.ol9 Жыл бұрын
The archon quest is definitely over for sumeru, the "Q&A" session that you have with the archon (or in inazumas case Ei's representative) at the end basically signifies this. But the actual story in sumeru isnt over, i recall they even said so in the livestream - so im expecting a traveler quest/interlude chapter
@nawawii3750
@nawawii3750 Жыл бұрын
You shouldn't count the acts. You should count the patches. Archon quest always end with patch x.2
@DarkAssasin261
@DarkAssasin261 Жыл бұрын
I love how almost every single character we met in Sumeru ended up having a role to play in the quest, apart from the sick Dunyazard n Collei of course.
@Nuna_heart
@Nuna_heart Жыл бұрын
One of my favorite details in the archon quest is that dottore and dendro archon both can clone themselves
@alguien908
@alguien908 Жыл бұрын
Just wanted to point out that I've rewatched the cutscenes from the 2.8 event, I think that Mona was foreshadowing what happened to Nahida and Kazuha was foreshadowing what happened to Scaramouche, they were planning all of this for quite a while
@Daktaros
@Daktaros Жыл бұрын
in the hidden strife event, albedo speculates that some members of the abyss order may have the ability to activate the ley lines, and by doing that they can control when ley line information is recorded and released. we already know that the abyss twin is involved with the abyss order, and they used purple energy instead of their original gold colour. i haven't thought about it very hard but maaaybe the abyss order (or khaenri'ahns before they were turned) had something to do with the twin being recorded in irminsul and part of teyvat
@Kaeyeimiya
@Kaeyeimiya 2 күн бұрын
- The reason given for Ei being the only one to remember there was no tree before was that she was IN Kharnri’Ah at the TIME it happened not because she was an archon right ?! So what if Khaenri’ahns are not affected / affected differently depending on certain factors!
@DFell3
@DFell3 Жыл бұрын
Your analysis of Scara is so spot on! A lot of people hate him for what he's done, and while that's perfectly fair, there's obviously so much more to him. Really can't wait for 3.3.
@deathwingthedestroyer3632
@deathwingthedestroyer3632 Жыл бұрын
A lot of that hate is proof that he did his job as a villain really well. Although his backstory was used as a clichéd failed attempt at making an excuse for all his crimes and it also doesn’t help that his backstory has been done to death in media to the point it comes off as a very bland and generic backstory. But alas they chose to keep him alive instead of killing him off which imo would’ve been a better option since justice would be served and it would benefit him as well since he wouldn’t have to suffer any longer or else the latter option would be for him to suffer the consequences of his actions for eternity or worse; his recapture from the fatui.
@Anna-sd4zl
@Anna-sd4zl Жыл бұрын
@@deathwingthedestroyer3632 I think it is realistic in the sense that that's how serial killers are made in society abandonment, nihilism and mental illness.
@deathwingthedestroyer3632
@deathwingthedestroyer3632 Жыл бұрын
@@Anna-sd4zl I guess, but it still doesn’t help that it’s been done to death. It also doesn’t help when you consider that they made an exact ass pull as they did with Ei.
@Anna-sd4zl
@Anna-sd4zl Жыл бұрын
@@deathwingthedestroyer3632 I mean what else do you have to give if you want to redeem them in some way to be playable.
@deathwingthedestroyer3632
@deathwingthedestroyer3632 Жыл бұрын
@@Anna-sd4zl Look up Joker then
@Julliangg
@Julliangg Жыл бұрын
You do such an amazing job with these videos. I could never have come close to these conclusions and theories. Love it
@nathanielallanschweitzer9986
@nathanielallanschweitzer9986 Жыл бұрын
I freaking love this channel. Your hunger to understand and speculate brings so much clarity to the odd word choices and translations in the game, and it's just REALLY fun to talk about.
@zafkielvondegurechaff3634
@zafkielvondegurechaff3634 Жыл бұрын
Idk if you mention this in the video so I'm just gonna say it: There's is NO QUEST called "Truth among the pages of Purana" which means that this is technically not the end of the Sumeru quest according to the Travail trailer and I don't really know how could this story continue. I guess Dainsleif is coming
@truegodofdestruction4964
@truegodofdestruction4964 Жыл бұрын
We haven't seen Irminsul burned down yet and in the livestream they said how Sumeru isn't over yet
@023Whiplash
@023Whiplash Жыл бұрын
@@truegodofdestruction4964 irminsul burning was a metafor
@Kaeyeimiya
@Kaeyeimiya 2 күн бұрын
Good guess 😊
@horstschlemmer6399
@horstschlemmer6399 Жыл бұрын
When u take a look at knocked out paimon and the traveler there is actually a subtle difference between the two. The traveler still moves. He/she still has an animation for breathing whereas paimon ist just completely frozen. Could be an accident but it could also be hoyoverses amazing eye for detail. This leaves room for a couple of theories about paimon. She may not need to breathe. Maybe she is a god who posseses the body of what we think is paimon. And maybe dotorre accidentally seperated that link between body an actual god, thus leaving her body completely frozen. Maybe she is the god of time and froze herself in time to prevent dmg to her body (yeah... this one is a bit farfetched) Just a couple of though about that not moving at all detail.
@hanzijing3485
@hanzijing3485 Жыл бұрын
I don't think Paimon ever needed to breathe, in the Aranara questline, Paimon mentioned that she was fine being stuck under the ocean before the traveller fished her up. Just bored by the fact that nothing changes.
@nawawii3750
@nawawii3750 Жыл бұрын
Does Paimon ever breath?
@horstschlemmer6399
@horstschlemmer6399 Жыл бұрын
@@hanzijing3485 fair. Well then this is just more proof for that :D
@pozzsicle
@pozzsicle Жыл бұрын
@@hanzijing3485 do you remember where is this said? I know of _a_ line in an Aranara quest that's similar, (it's in the quest: "Sprouting Seedlings") and unless I misinterpreted it, I'm pretty sure it wasn't her saying she was fine being stuck underwater?
@hanzijing3485
@hanzijing3485 Жыл бұрын
@@pozzsicle Yeah it was during the start of Sprouting Seedlings, Paimon mentioned that before she was fished up, she wasn't unhappy, I interpreted that as Paimon being fine living underwater.
@shanqingchai2930
@shanqingchai2930 Жыл бұрын
When Doctorre set off for Nahida and Traveler,Nahida was just a 500 years old Archon.But during his waiting,history rewrite itself and suddenly Nahida becomes a 2000+ years old Archon. He must be very confused of his preparation for the battle.That might explain his ‘’kindness’’ towards Nahida.
Жыл бұрын
Dear @Ashikai, this video is superb. Amazing. Just so it's said - your lore analysis and theorising is one of my TOP reasons, why I enjoy the lore of Genshin Impact so much. Whenever I go through an Archon Quest and perhaps do not understand some or most of the intricacies, I turn to your videos. Only then I realize how much I was actually missing out on. And your theories give me a sense of wonder of things that are yet to come. Thank you so much for your amazing contribution. And I wish you a great day, week, month, year, decade, century etc.
@otpravitel2426
@otpravitel2426 Жыл бұрын
Hello, great video! About 19:08 , my theory is that it's pretty much confirmed that Venti deliberately gave away his Gnosis, because Nahida told that the only top 3 Harbingers can match the power of a God, which Signora isn't. Also she confirmed the Venti's saying about "more fate from people=more power", and Venti is the only Archont which has a cathedral or churchy thingy and over all has a lot of fate from people, which means he's not weak right now after all, and easily could've taken down Signora if he wanted. Reply please what you think about this. Thank You 😊
@alshu2887
@alshu2887 Жыл бұрын
In addition to this, Sumeru's glider, it says that every glider is blessed by the Anemo Archon, and basically you can say that every time someone in Teyvat is gliding is actually praying to Venti, which means he's freaking powerful 💀
@otpravitel2426
@otpravitel2426 Жыл бұрын
@@alshu2887 that's too btw ! Not only showing pray that Venti gets, but also the sheer power that he has even now, of lending his power to every glider everywhere in Teyvat
@Aki-gb8gm
@Aki-gb8gm Жыл бұрын
He might feel some regret/affection towards signora since she's still a child of mondstadt at the end of the day.
@Moon1tan
@Moon1tan Жыл бұрын
I think Dottore, despite his power or strength, is not someone who'd prefer to fight to get what he wants If he can get it through nefarious ways or by being straightforward he'd resort to that over combat We've seen him in the Manga resorting to negotiations with Diluc and Kaeya through a separate ally and now with Nahida as well Even if he had something to lose in the end he seems to approach everything like it's an experiment "let's try it this way, it's worth a shot, if it failed I'll just use a different method to achieve the result I want" kind of thinking Resorting to combat would probably result in more harm than good since he probably sees those around him as assets or resources so damaging them would be bad for him too Though that's just what I understood of his character based on everything we know about him so far He did fight diluc at some point but we know that younger segment of his is probably more reckless and has a shorter fuse or something since they do think and act differently from the Omega version seeing that even he can't get along with all of them and get them to work together
@bleeboo
@bleeboo Жыл бұрын
IVE BEEN SO EXCITED FOR THIS VIDEO SINCE 3.2 AND NOW ITS FINALLY HERE I TOTALLY LOVE YOUR VIDEOS AND THEORIES THEY ARE SO GOOD ILY
@cold.wasabi
@cold.wasabi Жыл бұрын
Finally! Been waiting for you to do these analyses. Keep it up ms Ashikai, I love watching your videos!
@A_Modern_Tragedy
@A_Modern_Tragedy Жыл бұрын
Alhaitham and his +12 to slight of hand gave me life. I love this man.
@Kaeyeimiya
@Kaeyeimiya 2 күн бұрын
Love the DND references!
@byakumaruZ
@byakumaruZ Жыл бұрын
Awesome recap. And yeah. It’s pretty convenient that Rukkhadevata looks exactly like Nahida and Makoto looks exactly like Ei. This way, the statues of the seven would represent the Archon regardless of who it is. I would have liked some in game lore explaining when the statues were built, who built them and how, but if the current archon looks exactly like the previous archon, this discussion is sidestepped. I guess we’ll have to wait for Fontaine for that.
@hexi9595
@hexi9595 Жыл бұрын
For those two might be an exception. Nahida and Rukkhadevata are both from Irminsoul and Ei and Makoto are identical twins.
@thegamingenderman
@thegamingenderman Жыл бұрын
well Rukka did have different form that was on the statue. I think the statue is Nahida and they just did with her so they would have less coding work changing the statues after the quest.
@byakumaruZ
@byakumaruZ Жыл бұрын
@@hexi9595 we all know that. The point is that they look the same, so I was wondering what convenient excuse/cop out they are going to use for the Fontaine statues. Because if Focalors looks different from the previous archon, the game is gonna have to start explaining the lore behind the statues, whether they’re built by the nation’s people or by celestia, when they’re built, what happens to existing statues when a new (different looking) archon takes the throne etc. none of which has been explained so far.
@Jadeline
@Jadeline Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for the summary/explanation! I really appreciate the effort you put in to this video 🖤
@demkadeem
@demkadeem Жыл бұрын
Just found your page but i love your depth and delivery. Your sense of humor is my sense i fell haha. Great videos.
@KoalaTeaGuy
@KoalaTeaGuy Жыл бұрын
After everything Scara did, it would be poetic justice if Kazuha gets to be the one to take Scara under his wing and teach him the ways of Anemo.
@clover.8147
@clover.8147 Жыл бұрын
That's Nahida job, his new mother
@silverhawkscape2677
@silverhawkscape2677 Жыл бұрын
@@clover.8147 She's got the mentality of a smart child. But still a child.
@KoalaTeaGuy
@KoalaTeaGuy Жыл бұрын
@@clover.8147 LOL
@sladeTek
@sladeTek Жыл бұрын
@@clover.8147 would be kinda funny if Scaramouche would end up being Nahida’s retainer but it’s highly unlikely. His name is wanderer now so I’m pretty sure he’s not gonna be bound to nahida either
@leticiavellozo
@leticiavellozo Жыл бұрын
I LOVE THIS IDEA
@BuddhaJube
@BuddhaJube Жыл бұрын
I think the Dottore and Nahida interaction is like when two wild animals are in conflict over something. One may have an obvious advantage but the fight will still come at a cost so they usually exchange threats and never commit to combat with one eventually giving in and leaving. It wasn't that Dottore couldn't just take the gnosis, he was afraid of what might be lost if he tried.
@anwar9109
@anwar9109 Жыл бұрын
The word “afraid” and dottore can’t be on the same sentence just saying 💀💀
@BuddhaJube
@BuddhaJube Жыл бұрын
@@anwar9109 He is clearly afraid of The Sustainer of Heavenly Principles.
@anwar9109
@anwar9109 Жыл бұрын
@@BuddhaJube he was more of “interest” then afraid besides he works for the archon of cryo thats why he can’t make them awake
@burningpapersun1
@burningpapersun1 Жыл бұрын
So many more quests and I was super happy with how this archon quest worked out. I loved that everyone got to actually help out.
@gianfri7640
@gianfri7640 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for having such a clear voice and being so perfectly understandable even from not native English speakers like me. No need to activate subtitles and actually watch the video, I can play it on the background while doing other things and understand everything. Kudos
@truegodofdestruction4964
@truegodofdestruction4964 Жыл бұрын
Finishing this archon quest left me with mixed emotions since I did it all at once but MAN did I feel too stupid to understand what most that happened especially the last part. But like I absorbed all the info but still kinda confusing but watching everyone's reactions to what happened has been really entertaining.
@dookdook6913
@dookdook6913 Жыл бұрын
Okay, so I have a silly theory, since memories are really important, and I think you mentioned in one of your theories about dain being the proof that khaenri’ah didn’t fall. What if Teyvat was the twin’s homeland before it’s reconstruction and the sibling remember it during their time in khaenri’ah (while were asleep?) and that was trigger for irminsul to learn that the sibling belong in teyvat. But the traveler does not remember it. So there is no record of irminsul about them. I don’t really know how to explain it but I hope it’s clear enough.
@fardareismai4495
@fardareismai4495 Жыл бұрын
Huh, actually a really cool theory!
@captaindanger13
@captaindanger13 Жыл бұрын
oh yeah, i remember someone on youtube theorize that maybe the twins are from teyvat but from a long time ago, most likely from the primordial one's era. however, they even went as far as saying that the twins might be children of phanes, but i'm not sure if that could be true. now that i think about it, i think it was teyvathistoria who made that video. i could be misremembering tho. or maybe it was teyvationary. idk, it's one of them.
@nawawii3750
@nawawii3750 Жыл бұрын
If the twin are from Tyvat, they would predate the Irminsul itself. And since Irminsul code is cheap and potato.. it consider everything that's not in the database as alien. Even thing belonging to this world before Irminsul itself
@dookdook6913
@dookdook6913 Жыл бұрын
@@fardareismai4495 thankss!
@dookdook6913
@dookdook6913 Жыл бұрын
@@captaindanger13 I feel like I know who ur talking about but I can't remember.
@nightsndayes
@nightsndayes Жыл бұрын
Another awesome video, thank you for the recap and putting all the information together like this! And especially the chess part is super interesting!
@shuazir
@shuazir Жыл бұрын
Im not suree if this really affect the theory about paimon or not, but i find it interesting that she's kinda affected badly when we were on the Chasm story quest with Xiao and everyone.
@mogerselleaned
@mogerselleaned Жыл бұрын
YESSS IVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOUR VIDEO ON THIS
@its_Noori
@its_Noori Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Ashikai! I had a great time watching this long vid! It was like a podcast. Hearing you so excited about the lore and what will go in the future is really hype!, hope you keep this up, BUT do not over do it, we do not want you to overwork, you already have an irl job...so just take it casually. Can't wait for 3.3 Scara story and how you'll approach it!
@GreyGrievous
@GreyGrievous Жыл бұрын
Great analysis as always Ashikai!The work and effot hoyoverse puts into the story, gameplay, quests, everything has been out of the water recently. We still have a lot of Teyvat's world that is yet to be explored and told, and I'm all in for it. Sumeru arc truly being a region of wisdom as it is, answered a lot of our questions but also gives us a lot of questions for the future. Looking forward to Fontaine and everything hoyoverse has to offer!
@sembibirthsangma1423
@sembibirthsangma1423 Жыл бұрын
All Hate Them deserves an Oscar for his exceptional acting and I like how Venti is just stealing their Archon Children with his An Emo elements lol
@Kaeyeimiya
@Kaeyeimiya 2 күн бұрын
Oh yeah! Both archons adopted kids! That’s interesting :) It says something about the power of anemo being different again.
@ava_240p5
@ava_240p5 Жыл бұрын
I think the whole thing of withering zone not going away instantly actually makes sense with the whole pollution and corruption analogy. So basically, I see it as this: if you could somehow uncorrupt a file, it would probably be fast; but pollution is a lot harder to clean up since you actively have to remove stuff rather than just rearranging stuff. Hope this makes sense and clears up a bit of confusion for some people!
@Anarchyyyyyyy
@Anarchyyyyyyy Жыл бұрын
Yes, theres character whose a robot / mechanical puppet with a vision exists. Albedo. Now i know, you might not heard of the person who made him but his/her name was Gold a famous mechanic.
@trik-1032
@trik-1032 Жыл бұрын
To think the way they made the story into the game is fruit is somewhat downright amazing. The persons who made such an amazing story and the team that made the game. I'm speechless cause mere words might not be able to express how extraordinary they've been able to deliver its tale of Genshin. Looking forward to the Fontaine chapter and its take on Justice. Also, love the content it's so very informative and lively. Your videos have their unique charm compared to some.
@kennethM
@kennethM Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. Because i literally started rewatching the quest because it was late when i was playing it and i fell asleep. A recap video is a godsend.
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