3.22 Frost Blades Trickster League Start Guide/TIPS/Day 1 POB

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Zish

Жыл бұрын

Day 1 POB:
pastebin.com/jCuxBGh8
Min-Maxed and Medium Budget POB:
pastebin.com/z7zTziw9
Quantrik/Ruetoo Defensive-focused Version:
pastebin.com/3qZkpJzZ
FULL in-depth End-game build guide:
kzbin.info/www/bejne/rIXXfHxrfaaJlZo
Thanks for watching, GL in Ancestor league!
00:00-00:52 Intro and Overview
00:52-02:02 Mapping and Bossing Showcase
02:02-02:50 DISCLAIMER (for new players)
02:50-06:39 How to get through the Campaign
06:39-12:00 Day 1 POB stuff
12:00-13:13 Other Important Stuff
13:13-13:42 Tattoos options
13:42-14:33 New Support Gems are BAIT (for FB)
14:33-14:45 PAUSE AND READ
14:45-16:12 Tankier Version by Quantrik
16:12-16:53 Thanks for watching and GL!

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@Phredoe
@Phredoe Жыл бұрын
Found your build in 3.21, mid league. It went straight up to my favourite build all time, your guides are absolute top tier. Managed to clear all content with this in 3.21, looking forward to league starting it on friday. Even did some practice runs before you published this, came to the same conclusions (slow a1-2 and daaamn it takes off fast after that)
@ttgilgamesh
@ttgilgamesh Жыл бұрын
If I could, i would like this comment 1000 times.
@ttgilgamesh
@ttgilgamesh Жыл бұрын
SOOOO true
@jerqaq7398
@jerqaq7398 Жыл бұрын
i had the same experience, switched to this mid league ( i had just enough currency to buy the imporant uniques) , and it was so fun and fast, you can spam whirling blades for insane travel speed and the clear is very satisfying
@Anossov
@Anossov Жыл бұрын
Comments after some leveling practice: - I've never died so much in the campaign before :D - But it's mostly because of the insane speed causing you to over-rush. Get resists sorted! Don't do Dominus at 22! etc. - Doing Brutus with FB is just unnecessary masochism. Spectral throw (with bleed+poison or whatever) was super smooth on both Brutus and Merveil, then just swap to FB with the strike mastery (also no need to do the ancestral call swaps all the time). You might even find a nice claw by then - Clarity is super helpful, leech is cool and all, but without clarity you're constantly out of mana when you whirl through empty spaces
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
Great feedback, appreciate it
@claytonervin2696
@claytonervin2696 Жыл бұрын
Agree with first two bullet points. First skill found by beach and just the efficacy worked for me along with stormblast mines for burst dmg. Once I got to a2 ---> and found a decent claw and sockets I've been smooth sailing. Wit the currency I've banked will make a very small investment soon and should cruise all the way to grey/yellow maps. Great build brother.@@ZishPOE
@AlMa18877
@AlMa18877 Жыл бұрын
I saw your build for the first time starting from patch 3.21 and will also begin using it again. Your voice, your clear and focused thoughts, concise yet packed with a lot of content and information, make your videos the best I have found so far. Crafting guides are top-notch, and the development of your build was easy to follow. Please keep up the good work, excellent job!
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
Thank you and GL!
@ts-xg6xp
@ts-xg6xp 8 ай бұрын
I really like the in depth details and hand by hand walk through!! Really helps a noob like me. Keep it up man!!
@brianh.5408
@brianh.5408 10 ай бұрын
For those looking at this for 3.23 (posted this before any patch notes were released, so it may not be relevant). For 3.22, Heatshiver was 80c on day 1, 45c on day , 27c on day 3, then it stayed between 40 - 50c for the rest of the league. Yoke was 120c on day 1, 50c on day 2, then fell to 10c on day 3 and stayed there. @Zish, assuming neutral patch notes, after playing this in 3.22, would you recommend for 3.23?
@TitanyBlade
@TitanyBlade Жыл бұрын
Incredible amount of work put into this wow. I hope more and more people find your guides ps. this is going to be my league starter since nothing changed from previous league and I don't want to play the same builds I've already played.
@TroubleTrooper
@TroubleTrooper Жыл бұрын
Exactly what i needed! Day1 pob and all, great!
@SloRush
@SloRush 10 ай бұрын
This is going to be my league starter for 3.23. I haven't done a Frost Blades build in over a year so I'm pretty excited. Last league I did Discharge which felt top tier but I don't think it'll be possible to run for affliction.
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE 10 ай бұрын
Nice, GL!
@InfiltratorSF
@InfiltratorSF Жыл бұрын
Just wanna say thanks for doing these man. I combined your baseline strategy with some things of my own last league (incidentally also endurance charges) and it turned out great.
@Sink_Bodymodification
@Sink_Bodymodification Жыл бұрын
This is hands down the best guide video I have ever seen. As a new player thank You
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
Appreciate that!
@Therapyxx
@Therapyxx Жыл бұрын
i'm new to poe, just a second character. First act was completely fine with directly going to frost blades. 2-3 I had DPS issues, but ok sustain. Then focused on dps and was completely fine upto act 9. Here was really painfull, I got one shoted everywhere, untiil I remaked some thing for more defence... :D thanks for all explainations, I think the hard part to build everything correctly will come right after acts.
@meeptoss
@meeptoss Жыл бұрын
Now I have to decide between Trickster Spark and Trickster FB?? Damn. Thanks for the in depth guide!
@bole5113
@bole5113 Жыл бұрын
Truely work of a king. GJ! Playing this build at T16 rn and Love this build.
@kowal6539
@kowal6539 Жыл бұрын
hello again bro :D i was concent to you in day 5 on last league about lvl 30 sim with returning proj , and later with some my good upgrade t oyour end game build. Hope same in this patch we can communicated in game to get the build better :D
@RobertoLeiteBR
@RobertoLeiteBR Жыл бұрын
Definitely, I'll try this build as a league starter at 3.22... Congrats on the detailed video. Greetings from Germany. 🇩🇪
@havelthesock
@havelthesock Жыл бұрын
Saw BeyondEyes do a leveling video and he did Brutus with Viper strike and Merveil with blade trap before transitioning when getting trinity. Looked pretty good.
@davidmaltais2912
@davidmaltais2912 10 ай бұрын
Explosive trap is all you need till you do first lab
@DoogyDogg
@DoogyDogg Жыл бұрын
Hell yes dude! Thanks the work you've done here. Full sending frost blades this league.
@KQFFE
@KQFFE Жыл бұрын
Probably the best guide I've seen to date, gj!
@EpicNerdify
@EpicNerdify Жыл бұрын
hey zish! just wana ask you whats the difference between your build and behind eyes gaming build? just curious fyi gonna follow your build anyway!
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
I can't say, I haven't seen what his build looks like. Check them both out and see for yourself!
@basti160
@basti160 Жыл бұрын
I played Frostblades/Moltenstrike Slayer like 3 years ago was a lot of fun (mapping with hh even more back then) i will try your build out in 3.22 thanks for sharing
@xS1LV3RxHAZ3x
@xS1LV3RxHAZ3x Жыл бұрын
Yo, nice guide man, gonna give this a shot this league. I played a Frost Blades Slayer with Masterful Form, Replica Oro's Sacrifice, and Arn's Anguish for dem brutal charges a couple leagues ago. Was super crispy all around, but getting enough APS was a drag ha
@MrT23
@MrT23 Жыл бұрын
How does it compare to Trickster? I’ve done Trickster twice and want a change. Lots of endurance charges looks nice!
@xS1LV3RxHAZ3x
@xS1LV3RxHAZ3x Жыл бұрын
@@MrT23 Honestly not sure ha. I havn't played a melee Trickster since the loss of the zero mana cost Cyclone days. Also, not sure if you knew, but the endurance charges are converted to brutal charges if wearing Arn's Anguish belt.
@MrT23
@MrT23 Жыл бұрын
@@xS1LV3RxHAZ3x Do they still get the benefits of endurance charges (ele res and phys reduction) with Arn's Anguish on?
@xS1LV3RxHAZ3x
@xS1LV3RxHAZ3x Жыл бұрын
@@MrT23 Nah, brutal charges replace endurance charges entirely. That's the trade off. . . .defense for power ha. Plenty of other ways to get defense though nowadays ayh
@germanbashman
@germanbashman 10 ай бұрын
Hey Zish, is this build still playable in 3.23? Would be nice to know and probably the changes which has to be done :) Thanks man! And keep up the great work :D
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE 10 ай бұрын
Check my channel for updated 3.23 video
@xcvbnm6490
@xcvbnm6490 Жыл бұрын
Lets go!!! Thanks Zish was pumped for this. Excited to league start this one
@Arthurcoco33
@Arthurcoco33 Жыл бұрын
The hype is building up, LOGINNNNNNNNNN
@Archuhi3
@Archuhi3 Жыл бұрын
few leagues ago i played frost blades, got to about t10/12 maps and caught the crafting barrier. this was only my 4th character. i still have pretty much no clue what im doing with the crafting lmao. theres too much to follow in this game for a new player. i dont have the time to learn everything. painstakingly time consuming. i Appreciate you and this build very much. i do remember forgetting reflect on maps and just getting annihilated as well lol
@MrT23
@MrT23 Жыл бұрын
Heatshiver, yoke, southbound will carry you. The only thing you really want to craft is a claw and it’s it’s annoying, you can multimod or just buy one. Maybe even just use white wind.
@chitruong2778
@chitruong2778 Жыл бұрын
I think you're a pretty detailed guide. So I'll decide for the upcoming tournament. Thank you
@Extra_Salt1
@Extra_Salt1 Жыл бұрын
Looks sick, gonna try this later today. You could slot in brutality to movement skills to become ele reflect immune if you got the sockets
@tronax22
@tronax22 Жыл бұрын
Ok, so I tested this, and well, first acts are best done by making use of a marauder mule - get totems, leap slam, and another quicksilver flask from there, then switch to shadow and begin leveling with a two-handed axe and frost blades as skill of choice. Around the middle of act 3 (that's when you start getting a lot of claw perks) switch to a claw. That's the smoothest option I found.
@Kevinvnk
@Kevinvnk Жыл бұрын
Been playing a number of leagues and have never played a Trickster ever before so this will be a nice challenge for 3.22
@ekaterinaefremova4903
@ekaterinaefremova4903 Жыл бұрын
I did not finish watching yet, but I am liking this for your paint skills :D
@harleykennedy1264
@harleykennedy1264 Жыл бұрын
I also subscribed for the godly paint skills xD
@niklazz7037
@niklazz7037 Жыл бұрын
U da man! was waiting for this!. Great tips and explanation. Thanks
@Metacalcius1
@Metacalcius1 Жыл бұрын
i watched ur other video and this video, sry but english is not my main language so i will make some mistakes. Is one step ahead so good to take it always? That 108% at least as base value, seems that we can´t go under that, but if we try to augment action speed we still part from 100 so an increment of 8% of action speed from whatever source turns to 0. Is that cause we have no source of action speed despite that, and even with that, is worth to have 8% action speed and the immunity in front of another acendancy points? Thx for the guide
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
I like One Step Ahead for freeze/chill immunity, so yes it's very good in my opinion. You don't need action speed anywhere else, like boots.
@bibel89
@bibel89 Жыл бұрын
insanely detail explanation for build guide. Thx for the guide.
@Bjorn_UA
@Bjorn_UA Жыл бұрын
Another masterpiece video by Zish. Was thinking not to play season, but Zish saves me as always. Huge appreciation man.
@Putzreid3207
@Putzreid3207 Жыл бұрын
Yep this is looking solid! Can't wait to frost blades again!
@veyselOlympos
@veyselOlympos Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the wonderful guides!
@nirvy4255
@nirvy4255 Жыл бұрын
Nice! I wanted a start guide for this build so bad! Ty!
@zuzki_kun
@zuzki_kun Жыл бұрын
Alright in fear of being told to go elsewhere.. :D Do you think someone who has played 1 season for idk maybe 100 hours on builds like impending doom and Venom Gyre, should do well on league start with this? I personally love having a offencive defence layer (freezing screens) and an incredible amount of damage.. ive never done ubers and i want to take this league as a solo league (with some trading for core items ofc cause im still a goober and dont know crafting well) .. So.. opinion? is this noob friendly? and out of interest what kind of set up in regards to atlas would this build suit? (sorry if this is asking too much or anything)
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
Sure, give it a shot - it's not a very complicated build to play or gear really - just not the fastest leveler, is all. Atlas strat can be anything you want, build is good at everything. GL!
@heyzeus7783
@heyzeus7783 Жыл бұрын
Build looks fun af once you get it going, kinda spoiled by practicing cf champ with the juicy damage passives in act 1. With spectral throw back on the menu, I found that just a smol duelist mule for chance to bleed, a rustic sash, and then grabbing spectral throw made act 1 a lot more manageable while you path through all the dex nodes (although I could definitely get behind continuing the mule for all the other benefits). Just ran with 1 handers and ST-poison-bleed until grabbing +1 and killing merveil.
@TheUglyPredator
@TheUglyPredator Жыл бұрын
Hey, since crucible mods are gone, how do you add shock avoidance now? 2 more questions: Enemies are ignited, is checked, i missed how do you apply ignite? Your thoughts on Mageblood for this, since you said the belt slot is flexible and how would you change flasks:) Tyvm!
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
Not quite sure exactly what the best way for ailments is going to be - boots + a jewel + shield for avoid ailments possibly, but I'd say it's a low-ish priority. Any crit with fire damage will ignite, and you get fire damage from Heatshiver so you will be igniting. Mageblood isn't needed imo, it's way too expensive and the build doesn't get enough benefit from it to justify its cost. GL!
@TheLucyKemp
@TheLucyKemp Жыл бұрын
Thoughts on Ruetoos/Quantriks defensive version? would we need to spec into that once we get a ton of currency ? So in short, its pointless taking the leech nodes they picked as we will never regen our ES if Blood rage is running?
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
That version is much tankier, it's not just about the ES - but you could just stick with Ice Bite instead of switching to Awakened Added Cold for mapping Frenzy charges and not use Blood Rage at all, this would make your ES Overleech feel a lot better. You could spec that way right away mostly I think if you prefer.
@Lemerok
@Lemerok Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, I was thinking of this variant but with no blood rage. But how will the clear feel with no Herald of Ice in the tanky version? @@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
@@Lemerok the clear will suffer some for sure, especially in huge density like altars. It's hard to say exactly how much, though, but regardless I'm sure it will be playable.
@TarBeeBee
@TarBeeBee Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great guide, I am hyped!!
@jack10o11
@jack10o11 Жыл бұрын
i was just checking if you put out new video thanks
@Bakagayama
@Bakagayama Жыл бұрын
I've not played the new league at all, first time really getting into POE. I'm at red maps with a boneshatter jugg in SSF but feeling very bored with the playstyle. This skill looks way more fun. Would you say this could be viable for me to switch into as SSF? Didn't know if any of the uniques are mandatory.
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
It is kind of unique-reliant, but you CAN get by without them. I played it in SSF this league, but I DID drop those uniques...I'd say give it a try - but if you're inexperienced with crafting AND you don't get those uniques (Heatshiver + Yoke), it might feel worse than Boneshatter....
@Bakagayama
@Bakagayama Жыл бұрын
This build is a blast to level! Only half-way through the campaign but I already love this skill. I do have a question though, since I don't have a heatshiver yet (plan to try to find one in maps) I think I'm meant to be running Wrath over Hatred for the lightning damage to get the Cold resonance for Trinity? Is there anything special I need to do to get this, I think my wrath gem still needs to be leveled to make it work but I probably also need a claw with a lightning damage affix right? @@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
@@Bakagayama yep you can put lightning dmg on rings, gloves, or claw - you need it balanced with your cold damage
@David-si1qh
@David-si1qh Жыл бұрын
Started a few builds this league and nothing stuck. Even got zizz boneshatter to like 90 but it was meh. I tried yours and I was instantly hooked. Campaign is a bit slow but once you get past it you blast through content like it's nothing (even on a budget). Thanks for this [:
@ukantos1186
@ukantos1186 Жыл бұрын
Hey im planning to start the league 3 days late, what weapons or gear ( cheap uniques) do you recommend grabbing from a friend? Its been ages since i played melee so any help is appreciated. I am aware of karui ward, goldrim and boots but im clueless on the weapons
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
There's not a ton of strong leveling unique weapons, just use what you can find. I'd probably get a Goldrim at least and/or a Tear of Purity to make leveling easy early.
@Palehcha
@Palehcha Жыл бұрын
Aaaaa it's finally here
@RecklessSatyr
@RecklessSatyr Жыл бұрын
Tattoo League. Really excited to try this out
@danfitzi18
@danfitzi18 11 ай бұрын
great build - how can you get enough damage early on to farm essence in low tier maps? if its a 4+ essence its like a hard brick wall.
@michalnovotny6716
@michalnovotny6716 Жыл бұрын
Hi. I come back to poe after 2 years. I always liked frost blades a lot but never build it good to beat some higher maps. Maybe i will go to try this. Now i play explo trap trickster. Also good but clearing is a bit harder with traps. Thx fot The guide 🙂
@daydarkness3347
@daydarkness3347 Жыл бұрын
when would it make sense to get Nightblade? i see in the pob you said something about crit, do you need a minumum crit % for nightblade to be worth it?
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
I think it's good to get Nightblade when you have around 25-30% crit, around that same time also switching to Assassin's Mark. Probably around Act 7-8 or so, once you have the Crit nodes.
@Matteo-hu8dq
@Matteo-hu8dq 11 ай бұрын
How would you level this as a second character with some twink gear available? Hollow palm or are there any FB related uniques you could use?
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE 11 ай бұрын
if you have access to hollow palm, its the best way to level by far imo. If not, just use whatever you can get, theres nothing special.
@spraahz4777
@spraahz4777 Жыл бұрын
Hi again Zish, a couple more questions Is it worth using Anomalous Blood Rage for Ubers? Is Anomalous Frost Blades good? Is the steelskin being level 13 just because of mana cost? And lastly, do you think it's worth trying to get curse immunity on the build with a 60% flask suffix and some other stuff?
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
You already have frenzy charge generation from the Mark mastery, so regular Blood Rage. Extra proj for Frost Blades is also useless, you don't need them for clear and they do nothing for bosses. Steelskin at 13 is just a comfy spot where it goes off at around ~half HP. You can adjust it to whatever level you prefer, really. Curse immunity - nah, probably not, flask suffixes are too important - maybe as a 4th flask if you don't have Taste of Hate.
@spraahz4777
@spraahz4777 Жыл бұрын
@@ZishPOE Thanks heaps!
@MrT23
@MrT23 Жыл бұрын
I live divergent frost blades. More duration
@davidmaltais2912
@davidmaltais2912 10 ай бұрын
Matter of opinion I use curse effect reduce on my flask for every single build I make and get some on jewels. Allows me to run way more map mods. Hate curses
@Ara6787
@Ara6787 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this guide ! I m not english speaker so maybe i don't notice it but how do you do reach non vaal skill + 2 ? The tree give only one. And how do you reach the pierce + 2 not using the pierce support ? Thanks again for this beautiful work.
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
+2 Strikes on Glove Implicit (Searing Exarch). +1 Pierce on Glove implicit (Eater). You only need +1 Pierce, not 2.
@Ara6787
@Ara6787 Жыл бұрын
@@ZishPOEdamn, i don't even imagine that glove with such affix was possible ! Thanks
@Joe-ny8xq
@Joe-ny8xq 11 ай бұрын
I have a good amount invested in this build but can’t figure out how to get my attack speed so high with high crit. My crit chance is almost 50 percent and I still need a perfect rolled claw and shield. I have 100 acc and 100 suppression, like 30k evasion. What should I get my crit chance up to? I’m only level 87 so I’m going to start on the cluster jewel points next. That should be a huge damage increase as I level up. I have watchers eye, awake gems, the gem that lets me apply passives in radius around point blank. I’m working on getting the second jewel for opportunistic. Maybe I just need to be patient and once I hit like level 96+ the build will really come together I dunno. I also I only 15 percent chance to freeze and dunno if it should be higher
@GigaChadJecht
@GigaChadJecht Жыл бұрын
Gl on the poe build creator journey. Found ur channel from someone's comment telling me frost blades is viable again and found it hard to bridge as 14k hours player lmao. This had the feels of kobes venom gyre but not cringe raider.
@Redfofo277
@Redfofo277 Жыл бұрын
thank you for the great guide! do you have any preferences for the atlas skill tree btw?
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
I like to farm Essences because I do a lot of crafting, but I mostly recommend people do what's fun, because you can make money doing just about anything
@Firefly101
@Firefly101 11 ай бұрын
should i use this in the current POE events going on now? where i lose 5x exp upon death
@poeenjoyer123
@poeenjoyer123 Жыл бұрын
Hey, I appreciate your content! I have 2 questions: 1) Is there any chance for you to drop a link to your Better PathOfExile Trading (browser extansion)? 2) It is known that claws are the most important to craft, but in what order do you recommend to continue crafting items?
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
Just google Better Trading POE, mine's nothing special. Besides Claw, the additional strike on gloves is probably the most important thing to craft/get - and Fortify on chest.
@eduardfalos7463
@eduardfalos7463 Жыл бұрын
Hey @Zish, stupid question: could we somehow include the Supreme Ostentation keystone in the build so we ignore attribute requirements? This way maybe we can use some cool tattoos? Or are the inherent bonuses from our attributes too important? Also do you recommend a particular order to grab the ascendancy points? Thanks!
@Besttluna
@Besttluna Жыл бұрын
dont you think tattoos wont work with this keystone
@eduardfalos7463
@eduardfalos7463 Жыл бұрын
@@Besttluna i don't know, but if they do work, it would be a great thing :). The keystone transforms only the atr points in the timeless jewel range as far as I've seen.
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
I think Lethal Pride is too good to use an Elegant Hubris, and you also need Dex for Accuracy quite a bit, so cannot recommend.
@eduardfalos7463
@eduardfalos7463 Жыл бұрын
@@ZishPOE good to know! Thanks!
@davidmaltais2912
@davidmaltais2912 10 ай бұрын
​@@ZishPOEI can't remember the name of the jewel but it adds cold exposure if you used cold curse in last 10 seconds and gives me 32% of phys damage as an extra random element if I've used elemental weakness in last 10 seconds.... Worth using for this build or is assassin's mark all you want?
@nathanlantonnet1142
@nathanlantonnet1142 10 ай бұрын
Hi, ty for your guide, does it work for 3.23 ? Gl & hf !
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE 10 ай бұрын
New 3.23 guide up on my channel!
@greasefire11
@greasefire11 11 ай бұрын
I'm confused as to how to level in A2. I did A1 with stormblast; do I keep that for A2, or use Whirling Blades?
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE 11 ай бұрын
Uhh, if you use Whirling Blades it should only be to move around...you can really level with whatever you want. If you want to level with Frost Blades, you can.
@victorsronchim
@victorsronchim 11 ай бұрын
I know it is a bit late to ask but why go for heartstopper instead of the combo escape artist + ghost dance? I've never used heart stopper before, so any help would be useful.
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE 11 ай бұрын
The Ghost Dance Keystone is replaced by a Lethal Pride Keystone - Heartstopper isn't mandatory at all though, you could take Escape Artist instead if you prefer - using Blood Rage will drain that ES, though.
@victorsronchim
@victorsronchim 11 ай бұрын
@@ZishPOE thx for the answer! I was tinkering in the POB and realized that moving lethal pride to other socket is not really an option. Great video, I'm for sure following your channel for future content
@reenxx2771
@reenxx2771 Жыл бұрын
why exactly are we taking dagger mastery? does it work with claws as well, or do we just care about the nightblade crit chance mastery?
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
Elusive effect = huge crit multi, + polymath damage as a bonus
@TheVoltarus
@TheVoltarus Жыл бұрын
Regarding the tanky version: I was playing around in PoB with this. I used your 30-50div budget gear as a base, with the level 95 no cluster tree. Just like this tanky version I used Escape Artist/Soul Drinker, and Ghost Dance. It's true that the degen is higher than the ES leech, which is why I opted for Ghost Reaver and that ES leech cap wheel right next to it as well. The gear was changed as well: instead of pure evasion on the shield, boots and gloves I went for hybrid evasion/energy shield bases. The affixes stayed the same, I just copied them over. I removed some damage passives on the tree to balance out the points again and put the timeless jewel at the bottom of the tree (and manually added/removed the timeless jewel bonuses). The result is: 963 energy shield, ES leech cap of 327 (without any instant leech, 442 with) with a degen of only 149. It's less ES than the tanky version, but this also reduces the degen because it's based on max life/ES. We don't leech life anymore, but our claw already has flat life gain on hit, so we still regain life when attacking. This is a 620 life gain rate. There's also that Claw mastery which gives life on hit in case it's not enough. The DPS went down from 63m to 51m, and I used one more passive point (so level 96 instead of 95). Compared to the tanky version, this is less tanky but does more damage. Compared to the regular 30-50div version, this does about 19% less damage but seems much tankier. And there's Ghost Dance which always feels nice. Having less leech overall, and only having life gain on hit (which spreads out the regen between life/es) might be an issue though. Do you have any experience with such a version? I could clean up the PoB I used and send it later. I will probably still use your regular version, but playing around with PoB is always so much fun...
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
Yea I have experimented a lot with Ghost Reaver - usually without much success...Frost Blades is highly flexible though, can be played many ways. I think the build is plenty survivable as it is without much modifications.
@InfiltratorSF
@InfiltratorSF Жыл бұрын
Hey man would you mind posting a pob of that version you cooked up? Thanks!
@fatstacksmax
@fatstacksmax 11 ай бұрын
Posting on here to remind me to tinker with this setup as well. Did you end up trying it in league?
@davidmaltais2912
@davidmaltais2912 10 ай бұрын
Yeah no leech is a big no no for me.... You want leech for sure AND loh
@TerrennonPriv
@TerrennonPriv Жыл бұрын
For minmax you can go from right side instead of left side for notable "Elemental Focus" to gain free +4str from Leathal Pride. Nothing big but always something heh
@MarcelKoseler
@MarcelKoseler Жыл бұрын
Could you maybe quickly line out, in which order to do the damage upgrades? I'm stuck at like 8m dps, and every upgrade now is expensive, and I have no clue which the most important ones are, or what to upgrade first..
@dormax407
@dormax407 Жыл бұрын
first claw, 2nd level 98-100 , 3rd Watchers eye + Forbidden jewels , 4th lethal pride, 5th Brittle on boots/rings with dmg affix/gloves with dmg affixes, Amulet annoint and so on
@dandeaf
@dandeaf Жыл бұрын
Thank you. Why is your build not on the maxroll website ?
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
Because I am not affiliated with or sponsored by maxroll
@OlivierMaXZUCCARO
@OlivierMaXZUCCARO Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the guide Zish : ) I'm an old fan of Frostblades, and my builds are like, 10 or 15 leagues old, so I'm a bit out of date on the gear and passives. That said, on the min-maxed PoB I'm seeing with the 30-50Div or Min-Maxed version a Lifetap effect on Frostblades... We've look at the source of that effect everywhere with a friend, and we cannot figure it out. Where does that come from? or is it a PoB bug maybe? EDIT: For info, the defensive build does not meet the strength requirements by default.
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
Lifetap is for Assassin's Mark, it's not for Frost Blades. You don't have enough mana to trigger AM without the lifetap. The defensive build has plenty of open Suffixes, so you'll need to get some Strength somewhere on it.
@OlivierMaXZUCCARO
@OlivierMaXZUCCARO Жыл бұрын
@@ZishPOE Thank you for your quick answer :D Yup I understood that Lifetap was only for Assassin's Mark (on the "paper" (pob)), but PoB shows data like if it was using Lifetap, here is a shot: i.imgur.com/vysekaD.jpg That's why I was asking, I'm pretty sure it is a bug, but I wanted to be sure that I wasn't misunderstanding something. Thank you for your feedback!
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
@@OlivierMaXZUCCARO Oh, that's because of the Life Mastery "30% of skill cost is life" - can help the build feel better because if you don't have quite enough mana you can run out of mana and not be able to Frostblink when you want to.
@OlivierMaXZUCCARO
@OlivierMaXZUCCARO Жыл бұрын
@@ZishPOE Ha! I knew I was missing something! Thank you very much for the info, keep up the nice videos!
@Panda_SMM
@Panda_SMM Жыл бұрын
this build was pretty fun last league for me, managed to get a mageblood for the first time and hit level 98 which is a bit higher than normal for me. the main thing I didn't like was having to get a good crucible tree before crafting a claw, but that's not a thing this league. unfortunately I am going spark for group play this league but this was considered again for sure.
@henningkaiser9192
@henningkaiser9192 Жыл бұрын
What type of content would you farm with this once you got heatshiver/yoke? Legion seems to be very much doable with this build, but I've never played Frost Blades so I don't really know the type of content it shines in. Assuming everything with lots of density.
@Phredoe
@Phredoe Жыл бұрын
Yeah spot on. It hits really hard once everything comes online, and freezing everything is a nice defense layer in itself. Legion and harvest were super smooth for me at least.
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
Honestly FB is good at farming everything - you can pick whatever you want and it can do it with little problem. Careful with Expedition immunity nodes, obviously.
@jerome6897
@jerome6897 Жыл бұрын
Hello. Where would the pierce come from if i dont have it in my equips yet? New to poe and i really like frost blade skill and your guide has been really helpful. Thanks!!
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
You'll get Pierce from Gloves - you can either Craft it on once you Unveil the craft (from Betrayal unveils), OR, the better way, is to get it on an Eater of Worlds implicit by using Eldritch Ichors.
@madg1625
@madg1625 Жыл бұрын
I really like zish and his work , so respect from me and ty for your work brother One tip from me , on lstart i go for white wind dager and just change the big claw wheel to the big dager wheel above it I farm on WW until i craft my mod budget claw WW massive dmg +suppress+evasion so i use it till craft first shield and claw Not saying this is good just what i do and feels nice first days Respect
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
Definitely a strong early option! GL in 3.22!
@MrT23
@MrT23 Жыл бұрын
How much is WW on day 1? 1 chaos?
@karbehemoth
@karbehemoth Жыл бұрын
Why tanky version has 96% enemy miss chance and dps version has 55% chance? It seems the only difference is evade chance. I don't get it. Some plz explain to me. EDIT : I got it, tanky version has 'Enemy Damage Type' as melee. If you change it to average, EHP goes 130k
@lucasbaile14
@lucasbaile14 Жыл бұрын
good catch, I was also trying to find the difference!
@GameHeist
@GameHeist 10 ай бұрын
So testing this build before 3.23. Currently nearing the end of act 4 and bosses feel like shit. Almost res capped and im getting one or two shot with any kind of hit. Is there any way to make this build feel better during campaign? Damage is ass for bosses and it cant even take a single hit. I have as updated gear as is realistic for a league start but I don't want to league start and die 5 times to every boss encounter.
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE 10 ай бұрын
The first half of the campaign is definitely the hardest part - make sure you keep up with Life flask upgrades, try to get some life on gear, take the life wheel on the tree near the Leech wheel if you prefer, and get Trinity + Wrath online and your damage should be feeling fine by A4. I'll do some practice runs coming up after the announcement, tune in for those if you want to see more, and practice yourself will definitely help a lot, too. GL!
@GameHeist
@GameHeist 10 ай бұрын
@@ZishPOE In act 6 is roughly when it starts to feel somewhat enjoyable in my opinion. single target is still pretty bad, but zooming around blowing things up is fun. I'd be interested to see an Energy Blade version of this build :o
@Blockchain-kk8us
@Blockchain-kk8us 10 ай бұрын
how good and playable is it now in 3.23 after the patch notes still viable and if yes could you make a update pls
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE 10 ай бұрын
stay tuned
@ПавелК-й1ж
@ПавелК-й1ж Жыл бұрын
@zish how did you get fortify this build? Can't find out.
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
eater chest implicit, or 30 STR tattoo.
@KnotSavage
@KnotSavage Жыл бұрын
also im not sure how youd take lethe shade on a build with bloodrage. it would just never do anything right?
@glenngerard1798
@glenngerard1798 10 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm a bit confused about dagger mastery in the passive tree because they use a claw, can someone help me understand?
@hellpig7
@hellpig7 Жыл бұрын
O wise and great Zish, how would you go about this build with regards to an ssf view?
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
Basically the same as trade, just cross your fingers you get a Heatshiver to drop eventually...
@SokoladoFabrikas
@SokoladoFabrikas Жыл бұрын
That defensive focused build is insane. 1kk EHP? Damn.
@Rawlingm
@Rawlingm Жыл бұрын
that number is a bit unrealistic, they have everything checked in the config that can possibly be checked. The build is based highly on 95% chance to evade, with 100% spell suppression. Its going to feel good with ghost shrouds, but it will be on of those builds like all evade builds, feels good til you get hit by a bonk. dont get me wrong it will feel good most o the time...well 95% of the time, but you can still get one shot from time to time by a big phys hit with his max phys hit being 16k and if you dont have your taste of hate up, only a small percentage of that hit will be mitgated to ele damage
@karbehemoth
@karbehemoth Жыл бұрын
1m against melee hit. If you change damage type into average, ehp goes 130k
@nagarashi
@nagarashi Жыл бұрын
That's not an abnormal number on evasion builds. It's basically saying "you can - on average - get attacked for that amount of damage before you will die". The max hit is the number you should be looking at and if you're doing this on HC, I'd probably replace some things for some more phys mitigation. Endurance charges, PDR on shield, that type of stuff
@davidmaltais2912
@davidmaltais2912 10 ай бұрын
​@@nagarashiI don't think I would ever play this in HC tho
@marcelkoseler941
@marcelkoseler941 Жыл бұрын
Whats the best way to ensure enemies are on brittle ground? whirling blades through the enemy every x seconds? frost blink? walking?
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
You must WB or walk - Frostblink does not place down Brittle.
@lucasbaile14
@lucasbaile14 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry if I'm missing anything, but on the pantheons screen you mention brine king is bad because "2/4 effects are bad (free/chill)", but I don't see freeze/chill avoidance on the POBs, so those would be useful, no?
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
You are freeze/chill immune from One Step Ahead because your action speed cannot be lowered.
@mabrima
@mabrima Жыл бұрын
Because Trickster is already Freeze/chill immune due to the "Can't go lower than 108% action speed" ascendency.
@lucasbaile14
@lucasbaile14 Жыл бұрын
@@mabrima Oh shit, total brainfart here, my bad! Thanks!
@time6607
@time6607 Жыл бұрын
Hey great video, do you happen to have any filters that work well with this build? (relatively new to poe)
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
I don't really use special filters, no - just standard Filterblade ones.
@voidroad
@voidroad Жыл бұрын
have you PoBed trauma frostblade? i wonder if its not stronger as slayer now with a siege axe and getting 400-500 flat phys from trauma , no elusive crit multi from nightblade but you get close combat massive damage multi and the crit multi from slayer's 8% base crit node
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
No I haven't, that would basically be an entirely different build. Curious to see it though, maybe sometime I'll play around with it.
@chanceklippstein
@chanceklippstein 10 ай бұрын
Want to try frost blades for league start next league. Im doing a practice run right now and will use this for reference . Of course we dont know what changes new patch will bring but if all goes well then this will be my league starter:)
@rakunishz
@rakunishz Жыл бұрын
do you think it's possible to do similar wild strike build with frost only part?
@ExServ85
@ExServ85 Жыл бұрын
It's TotA league ! like DotA but with a T
@hiepnguyen80
@hiepnguyen80 Жыл бұрын
Love the build but idk why my pastebin not work, can u get me a link pobb for the league start version ?
@haiderjumaa5957
@haiderjumaa5957 Жыл бұрын
do you use a custom filter ? if you use it can you please share it? & ty for the build
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
Nope nothing special just standard neversink filters
@mercerwing1458
@mercerwing1458 Жыл бұрын
hmmmm I am torn between going the defensive version since i died a bit too often for my liking when i tried the build in crucible, and going raider with only speed nodes and then getting Gale force jewels from deadeye...
@MrT23
@MrT23 Жыл бұрын
Yah… I’m not sure why I died so much last league either. It was rough. My evasion was not nearly as high.
@GaryMcNeill
@GaryMcNeill 11 ай бұрын
Hey I was wondering why you wouldnt just use double claws as its more dps?
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE 11 ай бұрын
It's not really more DPS, Shields have a lot of damage too - plus they are very strong defensively and for capping suppression/resists.
@Joe-ny8xq
@Joe-ny8xq 11 ай бұрын
How do I know how much dps I’m really doing. I don’t have pob and play on Xbox
@습-f7g
@습-f7g Жыл бұрын
You think FB is still good without VC? i want to know your opinion, and Is Frostblade's projectile damage a meaningful deal in boss fights without VC?
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
I didn't use VC in 3.21, build is the same
@습-f7g
@습-f7g Жыл бұрын
@@ZishPOE so, is it correct that projectile damage is not reflected in actual dps in boss battles?
@습-f7g
@습-f7g Жыл бұрын
In the case of Lightning Strike, from my memory, I know that the projectile damage is reflected in the actual dps even in boss battles without VC, but isn't that the case with Frostblade?
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
@@습-f7g No, Frost Blades does not work like Lightning Strike - melee strike only for boss DPS. Projectiles don't matter.
@습-f7g
@습-f7g Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your answer, your build explain is awesome
@mangoisatango
@mangoisatango Жыл бұрын
this is amazing man thank you for making this
@yavordankov1207
@yavordankov1207 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the wonderful guides! I have a question regarding a ring implicit: Can we add as an implicit the elemental weakness on a ring?
@yavordankov1207
@yavordankov1207 Жыл бұрын
Does this implicit messes the skills (marks) or anything else?
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
@@yavordankov1207 Additional curse is needed so youd need to anoint Whispers of Doom instead of Panopticon, but I think it's actually not worth it, POB says its a DPS loss. Double curse isn't that great when we already have lots of penetration + the invert res Ele mastery.
@yavordankov1207
@yavordankov1207 Жыл бұрын
@@ZishPOE Really appreciate the fast response!! I've played last league your build and made my first level 100 character! Probably the best all-round build from league start till endgame! I really enjoyed the content you are giving for the Community! I have got the max crit chance version with 3 skill 8 cluster, but without brittle. I have in my stash the 35incr.eff 12 cluster (the same as yours), but when using it, the crit isn't capped and you have to put the brittle boots. Can you please tell me your opinion on the swapping from the crit capped version with 3 skills 8 cluster to the mega dmg version from the 12 cluster, but having to run over the mobs to brittle them, and kill the map boss? How do you feel it in mapping? The huge amount of plus dmg but no crit capped and to brittle the map boss for max crit is it worth (for mapping or bossing)?
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
@@yavordankov1207 you don't need to be crit capped for mapping so that's irrelevant, but for bossing you do. I preferred brittle because I didn't mind how it works, you can pre-place it before most bosses, and it gives you lots of flexibility to give up crit elsewhere. But if you don't like the way brittle works, it's totally optional.
@yavordankov1207
@yavordankov1207 Жыл бұрын
@@ZishPOE Thanks. Which cluster do you prefer to choose for the build? If you put the 12 sk cluster you have to cap the crit for bossing, right? If you can't cap the crit, is it better to stay with the 8 skill 3 cluster and unique boots? Or in every situation is better to go for the dmg/ias cluster?
@erax440
@erax440 Жыл бұрын
I dont see any freeze duration in this POB, how do you manage to keep ubers frozen lol
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE Жыл бұрын
This isn't an uber-focused build - if you want to do Ubers I suggest you have at least ~100M DPS (or you can get freeze duration, too).
@alexlebel7407
@alexlebel7407 10 ай бұрын
Is this a good league start for 3.23 or i should go LA instead?:)
@ZishPOE
@ZishPOE 10 ай бұрын
Go LA if you want to play a bow skill - I don't recommend you choose your leaguestarter based purely on perceived "power", choose it based on what playstyle you prefer
@alexlebel7407
@alexlebel7407 10 ай бұрын
@@ZishPOE yea my friend told me it was bad agains rare mobb
@Peageantwild
@Peageantwild Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the guide !