[3.24] Literally TOO Much Damage Necromancer Elemental Bama Build Guide

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

As other people have mentioned I forgot to say that you CAN SWAP the BAMA version by selling the BAMA Gem and 1 alteration orb and it can be swapped between the two versions, wouldn't be a wafflez video if I didn't forget something.. Why not Poison Waff????? Poison is good and the overall better version BUT for a day1-2 league start I don't wanna have you trying to roll chaos damage+poison chance ghastly jewels and poison gear/uniques get expensive fast( Amanamu's Gaze/Darkness Enthroned 90%+) so I think that's just unrealistic to expect so I made Ele damage instead.

[@NatakuX8]

Ya but..... poison...

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

@@NatakuX8

[@mal3diction]

For the confused people, this switches between Blink and Mirror Arrow. It doesn't switch between Bombarding Clones and Prismatic Clones.

[@Shadowdead09]

what kind of spectre do u want to raise for giga chad build?

[@satibel]

@@Shadowdead09 probably wait and see the new T17 specters.

[@Abaxoth]

Blink Arrow of Bombarding Clones + 1 Orb of Alteration will result in the recipe to turn into a mirror arrow if you have a preference, keep that in mind!

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan why do I always forget something fml.

[@gumbercules3925]

Will the gem level transfer as well?

[@kkeithf]

Does this work on all the trans gems?

[@desu7]

@@gumbercules3925yes, gem level, exp and quality transfers

[@desu7]

@@kkeithfit's a feature of mirror/blink arrow that works for transfigured versions too. So if other base gems has similar vendor recipes it should work.

[@wrekt2526]

Liked and Subscribed. This is the most COMPLETE guide I have come across for all the bama guides, atleast from what I have been able to find. We appreciate all the hard work that went into the guide to help all of us who have never played it such as myself. I had no idea what to use or how to transition into BAMA. Great work!

[@AlecWyld]

Finally, a guide on BAMA that isn't narrated by TTS or completely silent. Appreciate your efforts!

[@atikurrahman9304]

Haven't played in a year but will run this since I am really interested in all the changes. Thanks for the guide dude.

[@Pr3vie]

The guide is solid. But personally, I feel you should be more honest and upfront with giving credit. Seeing as "your giga version" that you claim you have made for softcore people, is literally my exact build with Affliction Spectres and a few mods deleted from the config. All of my tech, pathing, damage config (even with the same capitalization error), my AG setup including his rare mods gloves is in the PoB. Gloves, Boots, Unset Ring and Bone Ring are the same items (with at most one mod manually edited out) from my original build, still with their original names, with my exact timeless jewel seed, as an ingame import. So you either imported my 3.23 character or used my PoB as baseline. The way you tried to kinda ship around that subject while talking in the gearing section, is kinda weird, especially while talking about items (that I crafted) and then funnily enough estimating the cost inaccurately. I can safely say, that the gear is not 50-70d divines, but closer to ~150+ divines, and it might not even be enough. Nemesis dash with open suffix is stupidely expensive actually. Onslaught Nail alone is a 30+ divine ring, you actually made it more expensive when you deleted the ES mod from the prefixes. With open prefix its worth even more. Each of the abyss jewels is minimum 15+ divines. That seed in the pob was beeing sold for 100-200 divines in 3.23 with much less buzz around bama than now. You are creating inaccurate expectations for the cost of "your" build.

[@divinesimmortus3786]

Hey Pr3vie, quick question should i try your Bama or should i go with Ghazzys Zoomancer ? im still kinda new id say and id rather focus on survivablity is there much difference ?

[@yoowhatyup.2696]

GIVE THE MAN THE CREDIT HE DESERVES tell em Prev

[@Manzanahh]

16:13 at least he said you the bama goat but i get where you coming from

[@dzaijn]

Yeah this is shameless theft. Sad.

[@shazbot_hc]

he shouted you out bro, even said to check you out if you want more info. idk what else you want.

[@everseenTV]

Hell yeah, This is a great guide. Appreciate the write up in POB as well. Congrats on 2k subs as well brother!

[@Gr3gYx]

Ah so Bama is BA-MA -> Blink Arrow - Mirror Arrow... Never heard of this before I thought I missed out on a new skill or gear or something

[@niuage]

You can switch between Blink arrow and Mirror arrow by just selling the gem with a transmute. So really, doesnt matter at all which you get or choose, you can always switch afaik.

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

yessir I went to make food sat down and seen the comments so I pinned it thanks for the reminder buddy

[@niuage]

@@WafflezLovesArpgs 👌 Curious why you say that you're gonna use the "bad" version of getting the gem. You cant stand leveling with something else? :p Imma go with merc lab personally, i think getting the option to have 1 in 2 chance to directly get the gem is too big to pass up. And I feel like you get stuff and gear that is potentially more useful to you for your mapping start. The lab is longer I guess, that's the main downside... But you do move quite a bit faster i'm guessing.

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

Like I said I am dumb and normal lab I can just turn my brain off and run up and right but merciless I have to pay a tiny bit more attention. Yep that is 100% the only reason lol.

[@niuage]

@@WafflezLovesArpgs lol, fair enough. Hope you get lucky! What would really suck is to get the prismatic version twice :p

[@XxZarionxX]

Slight correction: you sell it with an Orb of Alteration, not Transmutation But still very easy to do and a useful tip for sure.

[@Archaval_AZ]

Hey man, great guide. I really like how ethical you're being with the way you're portraying the POB. No bullshit, no overhyping, if anything you are downplaying it. It's a toss up for me between (O)bama and energy blade atm for me. Wanted to try something new overall. Cheers and congratz on 2k subs!

[@assssss3661]

Energy blade seems to go hard asf too, its almost that dd or bama this league

[@insertnamehere4419]

Stealing a build and not giving credit to Pr3vie is not "ethical".

[@nathanconnor7632]

ive seen a lot of bloated pobs for bama in the last 4 days, thanks for being concise with your guide, this was really helpful.

[@Slothpeek]

Nice video dude. Interesting take on how to use zombies in SRS leveling. I've always had them as secondary damage and the used skeletons only for bosses either with ignite or just as is. Also the zombies feels like a nice defensive protective layer in front of you.

[@spinarossa8499]

Only got the blink arrow version but I am amazed as to how I can zoom across the zones and everything dies. Smoothest run through campaign and doing T4 maps now. Awesome POB and it just works. Thank you, Sir!

[@feboomkin4415]

Paused 8:53 in, will come back. Earned a sub. Great vid so far keep it up

[@Deathcore615]

I recently found your video from looking at Necro builds on D4. D4 was my first ever ARPG, it has made me want to play the other Diablo games as well as other ARPGs. The only problem I’m having with POE is the complexity. Are there any guides you could recommend? The skill tree is massive and a little disheartening

[@eazejazkekjaz]

Which one do you recommend for SSF, guardian or necro ?

[@davidcardimen7535]

When you say there will be one more overlap w/ conc effect, won't that be per minion, aka adding 3-6 to the full DPS calc? So 3 minions * 3 hits = 9, 3 minions * 4 hits = 12, 3 minions * 5 hits = 15, etc.

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

Listen man I just learned from Pr3vie and the rain of arrows is kinda awkward as a skill from just years of poe and people testing and the average I understood was just 3.5 at the center more or less.

[@davidcardimen7535]

@@WafflezLovesArpgs Listen man, thank you. :)

[@igor_rr]

Hi wafflez, are you going to update your guide for the new league? Much love

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

working on it now should be up by 5am tmrw morning, build survived all the changes just trying to see if I can squeeze more tank out

[@Ringadon]

If you get blink and want mirror or vice versa you can vendor with an alt to change the type.

[@radament.]

build was so well explained even for a beginner. coming from a 2 years hiatus from poe i think i will try this one and see where it leads.

[@Haimafails]

hi. thx alot for your guide, is a great LS, im having a blast. can you share your filter?

[@farisacoustic5379]

Any other reason to go necro besides for that leech? I mean free wrath aura and 50% block(glancing blow) from guardian sounds good too

[@Temsen]

Guardian has a way easier start and early game, while necro can scale way higher in the end-end game

[@nufcjoker9057]

Hey I’ve been using this build and I’ve got everything it’s great my question is , would spell echo work with this or any « big expense items « ?

[@wilepepple1]

As a veteran poe player this is easily the most damage I've ever had during acts 1-10 and so far it's performing really well into yellow maps as duo ssf. Thanks for the guide.

[@AubrietDamien]

hello i have a question do you have a regex to provide for the t16 and t17 card thank you for your work

[@neverhook]

This looks much more elaborated then BAMA from other guys, thanks for the work! Do you think this build is fine for 300 400 delve?

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

Fourth vow version maybe but it does have some delayed damage from summoning-->shooting-->landing so I think the honest answer is I just don't know.

[@neverhook]

@@WafflezLovesArpgs aight ill test it for the community then hahah

[@SkillRampage]

Im confused. Pr3vie has a Necro Chaos Crit version. Is that better thsn your version?

[@GamjaJorim777]

From notes in the PoB : "Poison is better but also way more expensive on league start just go check out Pr3vie on youtube if you wanna see and learn about poison I don't wanna make a leaguestart video and guide around 100% chance to poison ghastly jewel"

[@Pr3vie]

@@GamjaJorim777 He is wrong.

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

if he says im wrong then im wrong

[@Rock4everNRoll]

@WafflezLovesArpgs do you know if minions from MA get momentum stacks while they use rain of arrows since they are stationary?

[@Deep_o]

Lovely. Good Vid with all u need to start into something new you didnt know well. Only think i missing is a short instruction to spectre. (Early, Mid, Late or something) Overall good work.

[@AGVenge]

Wouldnt it be great to use a 6 link swtup for the Prismatic clones as well? I wanna sanctum with this so im thinking it might squeeze out even more dps

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

Sure you CAN if you understand the simple idea that you would lose something for doing that but ALSO you have to resummon these guys often to maintain fresh meat so I think that would be a poison version thing and not a ele version BUT hey man cook your shit if it's burning then stop burning it you brick the build it is what it is or you could invent some new shit I didn't do try whatever I just wanna give you the tools.

[@ChrisMunro-r1g]

getting the right colors for the 4 link and 2 link is a nightmare

[@aldoard]

This is much more better than a full spectre build ghazzy is talking about

[@69PhantomzoneTV69]

Thanks for the build guide! Going to make this my second build to play this league after farming some currency with my league starter. I have to say, you explain your builds so well and do such an amazing job with your videos I have to give you high praise for both of those. Feel like I'm watch a Pohx guide if he were a minion master like you. 🤣❤

[@joshuaciez7112]

Looks really good! will def try this out as my 2nd build thanks!

[@TheMikevanderheide]

Will you make a pob for end game gear or poison? Love the build so far!

[@zenmeteor9474]

Hey, my spectres and AG are always dying when i try to do expedition. Any idea on how to fix that or is that just not a good mechanic for a build like this and what pantheons would you recommend

[@antonioaviles4013]

Good guide! One question please. Why are custom modifiers on POB? Maybe changes in 3.24 that i hadn't read correctly. Can you comment please?

[@nikkobal2959]

animated guardian stats

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

If you mean the % damage stuff that's to simulate the animate guardian damage increase with dying breathe and leer cast, pob doesn't have a way to include the damage we we have to add it ourselves.

[@evilme73]

@@WafflezLovesArpgs first, thanks for going to the effort to create this... I've been looking around for some decent leveling and transition pobs and found nothing near this quality, so great job. Minor issue however, is that the config for dying breath and leercast is fine, except for in the gigachad expensive set, where the AG mods are stacked on the green nightmare jewel which inflates numbers a bit. Bob is stronkg, but even he cannot carry a kingmaker and a dying breath at once :D

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

yeah I should add a text to remove it for the gigachad version you right will do it when I have second@@evilme73

[@xUserid_Slayers]

Surprised a lot more people are not playing this build. Did a little trial run last night since the gem is 2c and it is freaking crazy

[@johnny2hands773]

As someone completely new to POE can you explain what that build planner is called? is it a 3rd party extension that I have to download? thanks in advance.

[@DeadShinobu]

path of building community fork

[@fox11]

path of building

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

As other people have said yes it's a third party program called pob community fork that we use look up ziz for more info.

[@scruff1125]

Can you explain the gem swaps for the 6L that's in the POB?

[@floyddominique3731]

is this useable in 3.25? what spectre should i raise? i'm a poe noob :D

[@alejandrohernandez384]

Hello! It is not clear to me after seeing several guides, if you have to go with BA or MA in the final version, or it is simply indifferent. Is it crazy to go with both 6L? in bow and chest? On the other hand, I understand that for mapping we go with predator and for bosses we use the concetraed effect? Thank you!

[@Leocmatias]

Hey, which specters should I use before I can get those endgame ones? As soon as I hit maps.

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

bear matrons from harvest

[@BlackArt1]

POB in vod description isnt fulled out can we get the POB shown in the video.... link pls?

[@VictorFajoses]

Would Chaos Crit be a good alternative too? New Unholy Might seems right down the alley for a pure Chaos damage (no poison) build. Bow crafting should be easy with harvest. I have no idea how these two fare against each other (pure elemental vs chaos crit)

[@UlfMTG]

I'm new and want to do the Chaos Crit version too, how exactly do I craft the chaos bow with Harvest? ty for the help

[@custodiojuliao4583]

Mega noob here, first time playing a necro. What specters should I try to get. What should I get inside my animate guardian.

[@Vandole]

which gem would you drop for conc effect for a long single target session?

[@bumble-bee]

Hi, how do I see which gems are linked to each other? Is it fine if I have a 4link on defiance banner, precision, conductivity and determination? also should my desecrate and spirit offering cast automatically with each other? thanks!

[@Ethan-xy4ih]

is there an updated pob?

[@foreverergouzi]

does you CWDT link trigger desecrate and spirit offering? or are these button presses?

[@sajkulp7868]

What spectres should you use?

[@NolaGamer]

am I missing or overlooking something but which sprectres should we go for or does it matter? And what's the purpose of them in this build?

[@moutiaRP]

Is there a reason to use blink arrow of prismatic in the 4 link setup or can i use bombarding if i can?

[@arhangelkiller]

are the gems only in hardcore mode of the new league or I can find it in any other league

[@fish._._]

Thanks for you guide! I'm super interested. Is this build tanky? I'm looking to guardian farm at the start for currency

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

I mean on base gear it's as tanky as I can get a witch to be on day1-2 of being tanky but for comparison this build is about as tanky as a dd necro on day1-2 as an example.

[@bruh4977]

which spectre should i use with bama and item on animated guardian please? i never play summon i am clueless

[@florianhiking4817]

are there things you absolutely would recommend to do or not to do regarding an atlas strat for the first days with this build? sorry if you did mention something in that regard during the video which i btw very much enjoyed!

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

Sorry I haven't did a in depth atlas overview / strat yet but that's the last thing I wanna make before league start today.

[@vacalacagames326]

Interesting how will be work Unholy might on this build? And poison?

[@Pjeyguden]

I'll play this as my second build, thanks for POB :D

[@wrekt2526]

So do we need to atlernate using blink arrow and mirror arrow?

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

IF you wanted to try and maintain the haste aura while mapping then yes, is it needed? Hell no you don't HAVE to do it but it's not the jankiest thing I've ever used in poe.

[@ohTHATjay]

how important is AG on a build like this? is it just used as extra dmg mitigation?

[@lolleonlolable]

nice guide but zombies are pure phys so they cant ignite, also even if they could the -10%fire res from it dosnt work for other skills, even if pob somehow acts like it does. also i would really recommend playing rolling magma/firewall untill you have alt least a 3-4 link for srs and maybe even a wand or somehting with +1 fire or +1 minion. the earlyerst i would go full srs/zombies is when you get flesh offering. also get vitality as soon as possilbe so the zombies dont die all the time

[@codranine6054]

For leveling molten to fire brands

[@sam93141]

Liked and sub, even though im not sure if i will be sticking with POE i'm gonna keep an eye on your channel. Thanks for the guide btw i love necromancers.

[@biggstarr]

Hello may I know if legion is a good mechanic option to farm with BAMA? or is bama not ideal for it

[@biggstarr]

@@sazzbot8874 yeah Im having the same issue, which is why I wanna know if its always like this or my build is incomplete, I guess ill do expedition over it or smth

[@DemiCalavera]

How SSF viable do you think this build is? Since you say it does too much damage even when trying to hinder yourself i wonder if i could run it nicely in SSF?

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

100% can be ssf no issue aside obviously from getting the gem the basic gear I was using to test endgame is easily self crafted IF you have some idea of how to farm essence's and harvest.

[@DemiCalavera]

@@WafflezLovesArpgs never got too much into that mechanic (harvest) but learning is no problem, so... Might try this tomorrow, then. Thank!

[@DemiCalavera]

@@WafflezLovesArpgs I'm a slow player and i've been doing some lab runs in search of my BAMA (Without luck yet) but i have to say this build is feeling like A BEAST. The SRS are cutting through enemies and bosses like a heated knife through butter. Thank you so much for sharing it.

[@kernan3348]

Are there distinct differences in defensives from Guardian that are worth considering over the dps increase gained from Necro?

[@johneboy216]

Pr3vie said gauardian is 20% more defence and necro is 20% more damage

[@turanbulut1474]

hi, i want to start league with this build will you update it or remake a video about it ?

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

new vid in a few hours still editing and stuff (it survived the nerfs easily)

[@thunderhead1969]

Alright I'm sold. BAMA Necro here I come

[@mrbanana-iy9qb]

I don't understand where the dexterity is supposed to come from, in the pob it even gives a warning saying the dexterity requirements aren't met. Am I supposed to use dex on my rings+amulets or how does this work? Also don't have enough mana to cast all four auras

[@noobatron2663]

You will path to Dexterity naturally, if you still need some, you can take the Path of Hunter notable, it's value will only be 20Dex, but you path to it through small suppression nodes which will still help out this build.

[@insertnamehere4419]

Use your brain. Get a dex roll somewhere, its not hard.

[@baluranha]

Angrily changing my league starter build less than 24 hours before league start...

[@inferius3389]

can you use mtx on this skill? Rain of arrows I mean

[@ichiwo1526]

Is there any loot filter available for this?

[@josearbulu1633]

Hey! at what lvl should i switch to BAMA? I'm using your SRS leveling guide, I'm at lvl 58

[@djezrosalez652]

From 38 onwards i guess and when you get the gem

[@josearbulu1633]

@@djezrosalez652 ty ty!

[@vash49423]

anyway u could share your loot filter for this build

[@n8doggy733]

Capitol Leyndel music got my sub. ❤

[@ansizfark]

I'm so slow leveling my league start character that the BAMA gem price will definitely be falling by the time I get around to buying one, lol.

[@zzalamandrr]

This looks great, thanks for the guide

[@cakes.gaming]

can i fit 10% instant leech mastery in here to go with bone barrier 1% leech from minion damage?

[@CTL]

Last league, for the bow, I actually went one step farther and got a Bone Bow. The phys damage doesn't matter and it has the same AS and crit, and it was far cheaper to find a very cheap fracture on trade.

[@nothingface5919]

Necro version is far more squishy and expensive to gear early on, it also has worse leveling due to not being able to exploit guardians bullshit free damage nodes and summon the koolaide man to just clear the campaign for you. It makes up for it by having slightly better dps, The leech sustain.... which is kind of awkward to get to instant leech with in their tree, but if you can do it its VERY powerful, and MUCH better minion life for support minions like specters and AG. Over all.. the build does enough damage on any build you try to use it with that it doesn't matter. So honestly I would rather have the Guardians free defenses and not get got in the first place than trying to make leech work.

[@andyfibb]

i thought guardian bama was the more popular version

[@VictorFajoses]

The damage ceiling for necro is higher than Guardians. That being said, Guardian is ez mode start, thats what it boils down to

[@nothingface5919]

@@VictorFajoses I mean.. and guardians defenses are just plain better. I think in testing Necro had like 10% more damage but guardian had vastly higher personal survivability. Auto purges curses and gets that passive HP regeneration. 25% Free both blocks on a bow build is pretty fucking insane. And so long as your sentinel is out it eats another 20% of all damage you take. And this is on top of the already solid defenses BAMA can get. The necro gets leech... but you have to get to a source of instant leech for it to become a meaningful defensive layer. The closest source of Leech to a BAMA tree is about 7 passive slots of investment out of the way.... in an already point starved build. So unless you want to NOT HAVE that 10% damage over templar and than some its not really an option unless you drop an ascendancy node to take MOS. That frees up 4 points... but anything you remove to get it makes you lower DPS than templar. So your only real advantages are you have MUCH tankier support minions... which is actually a very good thing. And that 10% more damage. Which isnt bad, especially in softcore. But over all I would easily pay 10% damage for all that free defense.

[@menswearhous]

Do you have a good loot filter?

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

not yet I gotta make one still xdd

[@TheSlicedbacon]

For softcore would you still say necro is better?

[@esportbets]

Anyone familiar with the amount of keybinds on this build? I'm counting 7 but wondering if I can trim it down to 3-4?

[@HuntsGaminggg]

just wondering what bandits do i kill :) ]

[@vertigovike7020]

Do we need to link cast when damage taken to Desecrate and bone offering

[@insertnamehere4419]

F no.

[@Faforino]

Could anyone tell me with comparable gear, what would be tankier, this or CoC DD?

[@gilletteguy]

You think it's uber cortex farm viable day 2-3?

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

I mean yeah but damn without the fourth vow setup I don't know if I would personally do it but damage wise it would be fine.

[@gilletteguy]

@@WafflezLovesArpgs Thanks!

[@rainzhang4229]

what kind of single target are we talking about. I want to do sanctum you think this is better than hexblast or totems in terms of single target?

[@FiercedWoW]

No.

[@sungheonkim8509]

is it possible to swap bama from srs even if i only get one of blink arrow and mirror arrow or should i farm both of them?

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

Just 1 is all I had and I went straight into maps with no issue.

[@sungheonkim8509]

​@WafflezLovesArpgs thx for replying. Good luck to your 3.24 XD

[@VitchAndVorty]

They said we could use bosses as Spectres in 3.24. What if we use that green skeleton near Prison area?

[@Mike-Dynamike]

I think it’s t17 bosses only…but I might be wrong.

[@MattGUploads]

Can you make this work in SSF? I know I will have to farm Labs, but besides that is it workable in SSF?

[@Ceberox]

Yeah, build needs zero gear to work well

[@rumbleshakes]

Debating doing this or DD. BAMA is something I haven't tried once and it's a minion build so might try.

[@niuage]

Just fyi it feels more like a totem build, but I loved it last league.

[@rumbleshakes]

@@niuage I like totems.

[@niuage]

@@rumbleshakes You should be golden then.

[@rumbleshakes]

@@niuage What's the difference between Necromancer and Guardian for this?

[@niuage]

@@rumbleshakes If you're really interested, pr3vie has a google doc somewhere that details a lot of variations. The tldr is that guardian has a bunch more dmg to start with, but the top end might be better as necro. Usually guardian is tri-ele, and the necro has a lot more variations, lucky lightning, poison, and more. But that's an over simplication, so go look at the google doc :)

[@leaspauli7807]

any suggestion what to lvl in lab couldnt find any info

[@insertnamehere4419]

wut?

[@matthiasgothe6919]

POBB Link is Dead. is there another one?

[@ShaKuar]

Wanted to see why everyones talking about BAMA. Stayed for Elden Ring.

[@DomOwnzYa]

I came back to see if it was true with the Elden Ring Music.Nice Build btw...

[@abyss5469]

Im last minute swapping to this as my league starter lol, i love to play delve so hoping that this will scale well enough defensively to survive

[@WafflezLovesArpgs]

As long you have a basic plan on how you wanna get the gem on day 1 then go for it shouldn't be a problem.

[@nutchapolwinij2501]

What does Spectre use?

[@Z1pZ1p3r]

Sooooo this obviously is not a league starter right?

[@ВиталийАлександров-ц1ф]

Thanks for the guide!