3.25 Frost Blades Warden - Day 1 Update - Just as OP as we hoped!

[@awkwardluke5501]

Really appreciate the updates! S tier PoB too. The first few acts were a pain to get through (as you said in the guide) but after that it was smooth sailing! I am having a blast playing this build! Thank you so much for putting so much effort into it!

[@marcmartial1221]

Thanks for the build. Subbed. Act 1-3 was rough, but after that I've had a fantastic league start. It is indeed probably OP.

[@deem7728]

I was waiting patiently for your update lol. Keep them coming brotha!

[@FlareFluff]

you can get 50% avoid shock on the protection mastery close to the tree as well as corrupted blood or maim/hinder with a stormshrowd and 1 more 50% shock avoid jewel(not sure prices on those). this would cost 4 points if we use the travel node to go to finnese instead of taking the 12% ele damage. possibly unpsec one with nature and the other ele damage if your crit capped. but the skill points and slightly less damage for ailment immunes (freeze chill shock sapped brittle scorched burning corrupted blood) edit i checked the price of stormshroud, i understand why not

[@MrSaki156]

loving the build so far definitely one of my favorites. Question, Where can i find your loot filter? I just tossed a basic semi strict on for now

[@jgmweston]

Thanks for the build guide, the levelling tree served me very well.

[@Wilikrdp]

Great video man! Nice progression

[@raziael]

Thank you for the updates!

[@simony9611]

Yeah I was very worried during the first half of the campaign. But kinda like he said in the previous video it’s expected. The build came online quick after that and it’s been very smooth since.

[@Sports7764]

In case you didnt see, it looks like attack speed is no longer availlable to get on flask suffix

[@ZishPOE]

Yea I learned that today, very unforch

[@tommie6039]

Awesome build awesome video and awesome PoB! I personally don't like how squishy it is though. I have 160 deaths so far (after hitting maps) and that is more than I usually have on a char through a whole league :D So i've decided to not sink any more currency into it and waste even more time trying something else. Yes I understand some people find it "not squishy" but my personal experience and with the skillset my 4.5k hours of PoE has yielded, it is at least squishy for me and my playstyle. What was the "last drop" for me was being 1% from lvl 89 (not a lot at all I know but im at 206k monster kills I should be around 91-92 at least) and dying to a white rhoa in a casual t13 that came charging from off-screen after I started charging a verisium vein :P

[@battle0001]

is Yoke no longer part of the build or are you just not adding it for the entry guide, and has anyone been able to confirm if defiled forces actually works with the warden shock?

[@SF_Savitar]

Its a T17 drop its expensive :p

[@LuBre]

Hello master, loving the build as never before.I am still not using tinctures, because I am not sure how to deal with the fast mana drain. How do you prevent/fix it?

[@ZishPOE]

you cant unless you take the tincture warden node or tincture stuff on tree

[@antgonzo864]

As soon as I saw Warden in the reveal video, I knew it was going to be broken for us. Great job buddy. -Gonzdoom (my 2nd yt)

[@cherylmeyers4535]

How are you keeping blood rage with vaal pact

[@killy2626]

video drops just in time for my lunch break:D

[@MateuszSwierczek-ej6jo]

Hey, one question. Blood Rage's killing me during clearing maps, even with high leach, if there's no mob in near area i'm 99% dead. Any solution? Ir im doing something wrong? Thanks!

[@ZishPOE]

put it on your weapon or shield, make sure your auras are NOT on those, and then weapon-swap it off when you arent fighting anything. And make sure Blood Rage is NOT linked to Automation.. ................

[@cherylmeyers4535]

Your guide show it linked with automation​@@ZishPOE

[@mitcha2241]

Thoughts about the tinctures with ele damage and non-damaging aliments affect

[@ZishPOE]

The Ele dmg is strong - ailment effect is good, ailment duration is also good for shock-stacking. Tinctures are strong if you can use them efficiently/properly.

[@SamO-hb6vh]

Are there any built in methods for physical damage mitigation or endurance charge generation? (enduring warcry kinda feels poopy) Mapping is pretty good and surpress/evasion/freezing deals with most things, but there's times where an accurate flicking mob just absolutely deletes me on repeat now.

[@zuulin4015]

there is an enchant with endurance charges on kill for example

[@MinNJW2111]

I would use Inspiration as well that's 3 crit supports i know but its ele and crit damage

[@robertelder3802]

Frost Blades no say, Sword or Axe. How are you running a Claw?

[@ken-c9i]

hello sorry new to this, how do i search for timeless jewels on pob well? like what should the stats be and my weighting? thanks!

[@ZishPOE]

use the "find timeless jewel" button in POB and sort by dps for the jewel socket - or look for DD/multi/melee dmg/rage on hit

[@ken-c9i]

Thanks! Do u mind answering what atlas strat are u runnin?

[@le_creation6002]

Hi, this build is awesome. I have 9 million damage for 6 divine orbs, the whole map explodes, decent survivability if you don't use delirium orbs. What do you think is the most effective aspect of farming? I'm relatively new, this is my 1st league with the atlas tree. I took legion and breach, I like everything, but is there a potentially more effective area of ​​application for this build or is it more a matter of preference?

[@ZishPOE]

preference imo, farm what you enjoy

[@marlongarcia4512]

does the glove have to be any ILVL especific?

[@ZishPOE]

85 if you want T1 accuracy or suppress

[@aarujin7700]

How are you using trinity if you have cold, fire and lightning?

[@ZishPOE]

@@aarujin7700 please watch my trinity video

[@LuBre]

How do you deal with monsters who reflect aliments? Sometimes I get them and I obviously get frozen in place all the time. Very annoying.

[@lordlucifer989]

3:25 he talks about it, has chill on his boots and freeze from a flask for the moment

[@zuulin4015]

pantheon freeze immunity

[@ZishPOE]

try watching the video

[@exeedorbit]

What is, in your opinion, the best way to learn to go through the campaign as quickly/efficiently as possible?

[@ZishPOE]

Hollow Palm

[@Fiyawerx]

I think I'm misunderstanding how to progress this other than zerging non stop deaths. Still working on my early map gear t1/t2 but most rares I run into can just straight up one-shot me. Playing SSF though so need to manage it without buying things. Anyone have any advice for being a bit tankier out of the gate?

[@ZishPOE]

Go barkskin and armour/evasion bases - or just Determ instead of Hatred if you want to be really more defensive. But I recommend you pump damage and freeze everything with Avatar - I use Avatar on like every Essence and League Ore node and Map Boss.

[@XzOmegaBlitzzX]

There is a tanky variant that scales armour and evasion with perserverance using dex str base. Much tankier IMO.

[@godofpharts]

Vid or PoB?

[@onewithham6747]

Would have helped if you actually linked the source of the pob...

[@ZishPOE]

ofc it will be - but it will have way less damage. go that way if thats what you prefer

[@zuulin4015]

very annoying to play early, but it is slowly getting better

[@lordgally9700]

Hey, I got an issue when I swapped to Cold to Fire supp gem after getting Oath of Summer, I can't get trinity to proc anymore because of the fire element. I got # to # fire damage on both my rings, I just got a low phy damage, but that can't be the issue, right ? I can't figure out why I can't proc Trinity, any advice on that please ? If I swap out Cold to Fire support, it's working again, so what should I do EDIT : I tried multiple things - swapping in Anger does not work, having Wrath or Hatred does not work either EDIT2 : I manage to proc it sometimes, but it looks like it's against fire/ignite resistant mobs, does that mean I'm dealing too much fire damage and not enough cold/lightning ? should I get lightning damage to attacks ? cause if I get cold damage, it won't solve anything ?

[@coodz]

You've to get more lightning damage so it sometimes hit harder than fire

[@Sevraxx]

For proccing Trinity, when you hit with the highest elemental damage the other two get resonance. So you either have too much of one damage type or not enough of another. You only need two types that alternate to get all three to resonate. So focus on cold/fire (make sure they are close enough for them to alternate as highest damage)and just get a little bit lightning to proc shocks for the ascendancy node.

[@kenjikodai]

The top number damage of each element has to be higher than the lowest of the other elements. I.E 450 to 500 fire 480 to 650 cold 120 to 800 light This will proc trinity. If the top end is lower than the minimum then it wont proc it

[@lordgally9700]

Thank you very much for your replies, I will try to fix this !

[@FollowerofChrist..]

Zish how do you scale the dmg? I am struggling in 15/16 maps..

[@ZishPOE]

Better gear + levels + gems

[@fzarovich]

Thanks for the insights! Did you use FB to level up from the start?

[@lordgally9700]

From his pob, he wrote that he likes to do the leveling with FB, so he doesn't have to make big changes for the sockets colours 😊

[@evanwater3633]

Doing something wrong here. been a zdps build for me. trying to figure it out

[@zuulin4015]

6L, heatshiver and labs. If you can't craft or buy some semi-decent claw, you might want to pick up a white wind for 1c then drop claw nodes (magpie, hawk, life reaker) and pick up dagger ones (flaying and backstabbing). I had no problem in yellows/low reds with this setup

[@Ehleminatoa]

ahh the blue bubbles are MTX for frost blade? or am i getting it confused with another Skill

[@GE_Photon_Lord]

He doesnt use stygian frost blades.

[@nik9470]

last league everything was fine. Now, 200+ deaths, really hard to get it to work. Now after finishing all acts did 600 lightning dmg, 450 cold and 350 fire so far. But if I take my old claws and aim just a pure cold damage, then mobs die x3 faster... Thanks for your work anyways, but for me not this time, only one with is to delete this character :D

[@bugshavefeelerstoo]

everyone crying about the build just get your trinity online, and finish your first ascendancy. I promise you will stop crying instantly

[@Sevraxx]

Yes, these two things and it makes the campaign easy mode

[@Pluke89]

But how you get it online 😅

[@zzewt]

Calling complains "crying" is toxic as hell. Grow up

[@discordiantler]

Why do we use frostblink lvl 5?

[@ZishPOE]

@@discordiantler you can level it a bit but it doesn't do much, you don't want the int requirement

[@DanielOrtiz3]

Noob/Silly question : How are you activating 4 auras? I'm trying but i have no mana for that

[@cherylmeyers4535]

Lower precision a little is how I do it

[@GE_Photon_Lord]

I regret not going melee fb. I wasnt sure what to expect early from the removal of the flat cold. Plus I have a plan which so far goes well. I had the idea to make an expedition+heist dedicated farmer, so I reworked my cold dot leaguestarter into a speedy variant as ascendant (im addicted). Melee fb would do a similar job in a heist, but my concern was that whirling blades could run me out of mana while travelling if I dont hit anything. So that threw me off as well. I will probably level a trickster later on, I always play dot with him, but melee goes ballistic rn so I have to try it (plus I was going to test the pure tank es melee variant I was coping, god bless ggg for keeping perandus pact %es variant in the game) 😂

[@magicsmoke0]

What is this ‘avatar’ skill you were talking about?

[@ZishPOE]

Avatar of the Wilds Warden node

[@ziba28]

Reached red maps on a 4-link so far. Damage is good defenses are decent. Schock node feels underwhelming. Pron changes with taming.

[@ZishPOE]

Ya Shock node needs some Tech to fully ramp - you need a phys/cold claw too to really benefit from it. VLS helps stack it a lot. More on this later on as we try stuff out.

[@TuanNguyen21293]

dont know what happen to me or just some bug but my dps drop a lot after I got Oath of summer from lab 1 =(

[@lordgally9700]

Did you swap out added cold dmg and added lightning damage and put multistrike + cold to fire support instead ? That's what you should do, so you can scorch mobs easily

[@Denguir]

Standard league format?

[@ZishPOE]

Im in a private league

[@KristapsJankovskis]

Trying out ur build... atm only 30lvl tho i dont mind... i dont like to rush anyways! Always played cyclone builds, tho few days ago saw ur video and was wondering if i would enjoy the gameplay - and atm its pretty good! Like u said previously - its not a league starter, at least ~1-30lvls are slow and u can die!

[@stefanvanniekerk8436]

Im dying soooo much

[@zuulin4015]

I was in your place, but now im dying maybe once in 3-4 maps from some random shit and i spent maybe 200c from day 1. You need evasion on all gear, hp nodes (thick skin, herbalism, revange of the hunted), capped res, flasks from pob and one of them with evasion roll, capped spell suppresion (its easy actually all from tree + maybe 20% from items, freeze immunity from pantheon (this one is huge), shield, and the most imporant one -> offence is a defence in this build (do your labs, 6L and heatshiver is mandatory IMO), I don't have it yet, but i think pierce and +1 strike on gloves with eldrich implicits will make a huge offence and defence difference so try also that, also sorry for my eng :8

[@Pluke89]

Why no hrimsorrow?its 100% to cold

[@ZishPOE]

You don't need 100%, you only need 40% which is on the Cold mastery - you're not giving up your entire Glove slot just to get that 40% conversion

[@Pluke89]

@@ZishPOE im wearing it atm since im only in act8. got is from a drop.found no better ones yet

[@dunder_init7016]

I died a lot, no fault of the build , I'm clearly not knowledgeable enough about the game, and as a newer player Im still struggling... Which is why I think maybe a guided playthrough showing your progression process would be very beneficial in the future, there were some differences to the pob and your choices, which leads to a lot of confusion for newer players like myself, of course newer players are expected,as you are gaining popularity. Great stuff, I am looking forward to mastering fb. Not an easy build for a beginner imo. I know this stuff is easy for a lot of people but when you are new to the game , small things could hold you back. POE is a complex game with a lot of moving parts

[@Fiyawerx]

It's not just you, until your gear starts popping off it's very squishy. You really must rely on glass cannon playstyle.

[@gatovzla3876]

Bro attack speed from flask was remove 😮

[@KING-dw3we]

They gonna nerf into the ground lol Perma freezing bosses either a patch is coming or hotfix I just don't see them letting that slide and if they do let it slide it won't be the same next season.

[@tyroneoliver1160]

Died 156 times and just hit act ten 😢. Unbelievable bad luck with gear and can not find socket colour or resistances..dang what a start but still goin 😂 and hopefully find some gear. No luck with colouring or gearing at all. But look forward to getting it going and thanks for the guide 👍

[@zuulin4015]

176 times for me 😂

[@dyslexicape4249]

Yep it’s good but still a bait build

[@lordgally9700]

​@@SarcasticCityzenSoftcore, it is not recommended to play it in HC

[@godofpharts]

This is what scared me away. No point doing all that damage when you die to a sneeze

[@lordgally9700]

@@godofpharts Those guys probably didn't pay attention at all. I just hit act 9, I died 12 times

[@MvPaKoSs]

bandits ?

[@ZishPOE]

all or 15 res early

[@duruzhkovivan7556]

Let's go zish!

[@selenang2006]

Its gonna be squishy, try slayer instead

[@ZishPOE]

noty

[@MierinEronaille]

Nice bro

[@WernerFigueiredo]

Thanks for the update Ziz, i'm having a blast with scorch.

[@jr1348jr]

I haven’t played melee in forever… with multi strike gem, can you hold the attack button or do you need to press and let the multiple attacks go through then press again?

[@zuulin4015]

U can hold

[@jr1348jr]

@@zuulin4015Thank you!

[@loveandhate2742]

insane :)

[@Ashtarte3D]

I don't know wtf I did wrong but this hasn't been my experience at all. White maps have been kicking my ass and I can't figure out why. Btw you definitely didn't find that claw in Act 8. It's ilvl 73.

[@Sevraxx]

I’ve been smooth sailing since act 3 on following this build. If you can link your POB I might be able to help you.

[@lennoth]

You will feel the difference of defence when you face pinnacle bosses and map tier 16 I think.

[@ZishPOE]

yep bait build

[@lennoth]

@@ZishPOE As I imagined :(

[@kenjikodai]

I miss old defence

[@ZishPOE]

dont we all

[@sandeepnerli]

What’s all the hate on warden and zish lol. He is the frostblades god since atleast 6 leagues!

[@iyekane95]

Frostblade god lol...just because someone makes a guide doesn't mean they are the only good player playing that skill

[@GE_Photon_Lord]

​​​@@iyekane95And who else plays it? Its zerksees and phrahx or whatever. 3 people total. Last one does min maxing, zish does hella good guides and the other plays it casually ig. So technically 2 people, where zish is the most invested into it and put fb on the map.

[@iyekane95]

@GE_Photon_Lord ummm literally tons of people who DONT stream lol....I've played it many times. I played it last league. I've been playing RF before POHX. Just because he makes content does make him a god... I don't care if you like him but there were many other individuals last league with more min max frost blade builds that him. Go poeninja it

[@RamzaBehoulve]

Ruetoo and Tytykiller although their build moves to Katabasis at 75.

[@qqitipp]

Caught 1 minute post!

[@Bachomp69]

Zish give me a claw ty

[@dspursuer]

why not katabasis?

[@GE_Photon_Lord]

Man, if ruetoo says something doesnt mean its good. Katabasis is not supposed to be play as melee, the clearspeed is trash vs shooting projectiles.

[@unproxv]

Completely different skill meant for a different build.

[@RecklessSatyr]

Regular Frostblades shoot projectiles that freeze enemies. It is way superior imo.

[@dspursuer]

@@RecklessSatyr I'm still gonna play katabasis with this build idc xdd

[@ZishPOE]

Katabasis requires Melee Splash to not feel completely trash, which Warden doesn't have easy access to.

[@Impavidor]

Lighting node looks unreliable, swich to tictures

[@ZZZRussia-e5o]

НАШ СЛОНЯРА

[@jakemartin5553]

FB or LS are usually my go-to "high investment" build most leagues.. but Ive never "started" it. After this experience, I can confidently say Ill never "start" it again.

[@GE_Photon_Lord]

Its a leaguestarter, wdym? Also 100 divs for 80mil+ is high investment??

[@jakemartin5553]

@GE_Photon_Lord I mean technically you can league start anything, but that doesn't make your build a "good" league starter. I've started TR 13 of the last 14 leagues.. I typically clear campaign in ~4.5hr with an act 1 bow and the only thing I need to look at gear for is sockets.. go straight to heist after campaign for ~2hrs, which nets me enough currency to finish my first 2 void stones.. THAT is what a "good" league starter is lol.. Also, I usually have a mageblood before I start my second build.. so no, I would consider 100div "Almost ready to start investing in a build."

[@harique9204]

Great video but this build is pure bait before 200 divines put into it. It pops and clears as amazing as physical damage clears it. Onetaps from everything which is related to phys - 200 deaths just in acts. Dont play this as league start if you are planning to. Play something safe and deffensive like archmage or minions and build currency for this build

[@ZishPOE]

k

[@marschiee]

SHowcases a T1 map at lvl 85 lol. Meeehhhhh

[@ZishPOE]

That was a T9 map, are you high or something

[@johnh5909]

Still time to delete this champ

[@loveandhate2742]

@@johnh5909 just beucase you're dogshit at this game doesnt mean build is bad ;)

[@marschiee]

@@ZishPOE monster level 76?

[@weikhai8862]

@@marschieedo you even play the game… t1 maps are level 68

[@marschiee]

Zish is so close to the og streamer Ziz... bad choice of channel name imo. Zish < ZIz.

[@jasonmoss-qk8oh]

zizaran sounds nothing like zish nutrider lol

[@marschiee]

@@jasonmoss-qk8oh does so!

[@marschiee]

@@jasonmoss-qk8oh even the logo looks the similar