3 attempts , DC-6 AAG G-SIXC at Ostend Airport Part 1

[@jorgemachado7784]

Man, I love jets, but nothing beats the sound of a good old radial engine.

[@raystarky3896]

WOW! WHAT A CLASSIC DC-6! 3rd time was the big charm for the DC-6! I love it every second of that trying to restart the Number 1 engine/ It looked just like many of my problemssss through out my life! try try try again as all my industrial arts instructor's and Track and cross-country coaches would always stay NEVER GIVE UP!

[@GeorgeMCMLIX]

35 minutes of fascinating viewing! Love these videos 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 The DC6 windmill start was a first for me 👍🏻

[@patrickvereecke6654]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@patrickvereecke6654]

was a unique experience for myself as well😉

[@MrThemold]

Takes balls.

[@BjornMoerman]

Thanks for sharing.

[@patrickvereecke6654]

@@BjornMoerman i guess God was on my side that wonderful day , unique experience , my highlight for propliners

[@curtisgregory517]

DC-8-61 in 1960s fully loaded with 254 pax departed Shannon Ireland for JFK. #2 engine failed on take-off. Dumped fuel for 30 minutes, then returned to Shannon. Off loaded all the pax and put a plug in #2 engine, then departed Shannon with three engines operating, a "ferry flight" to Frankford Germany where we had a spare engine.

[@patrickvereecke6654]

THANKS for sharing this awesome story !👏😄

[@josephkaplan7933]

Love old planes😊

[@my1998mgm]

The sound is awesome

[@JabFlyer1]

DC8?

[@JabFlyer1]

Awesome video and audio thanks so much for posting this

[@SmashMat]

Waow !! I wasnt sure att all about what was happening until the propeller starts turnin ... instant smile and a warm wave from the bottom of my heart ❤️ ... that was awesome 😁 🤟👌 ...

[@glenfordburrell1076]

It was nice to see the Anotov with it's nose up in the background!

[@enziogehrig9425]

Nice video. Love these old birds, have flown in quite a few many decades ago.

[@patrickvereecke6654]

Very cool

[@skydive1424]

Pretty skillfully done! They juuust got it to fire and the flight engineer obviouly kept it going. Good job not cooking the brakes!

[@thierrygerard-f9u]

J'ai volé un nombre de fois sur le 707 et le DC 8;, de bons avions , en revoyant ce reportage, que de souvenirs et bien sûr des emotions et des larmesv

[@LawnMowersThingsThatMakeNoise]

what a clever way to get that naughty engine started !!! top marks 🙂 bravo

[@michelscotto3900]

MERCI EXTRAORDINAIRE LE DC6 ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ MERCI J’ADORE I LOVE THESE generation of propeller planes DC3/4/5/6/7/ et CONSTELLATION !! I flew on board DC3 and DC6 AIR DJIBOUTI airlines in 1968 between DJIBOUTI AND ADDIS ABEBA !!! I was 8 years old

[@jimhansen5167]

Je suis pas Francais alors excuse moi, sil vous plait. J'etes an etudiant a Lycee Gebre Mariam in Addis quand j'etais jeune

[@michelscotto3900]

@@jimhansen5167 I went two times in HARARE I was 8 or 9 years old a few kilometers from ADDIS to spend summer holidays the temperatures were coolest (20 to 25° celtius than Djibouti’s (35 to 48° celtius) 😮!! I remembered the beautiful nature so green so much colorful flowers ! my parents sent me to a important covent of Maltese sisters !!!! )))

[@brianwillson9567]

Took my family on a ‘farewell to the dakota’ trip with air atlantique a fewyears ago. Flew in G AMPY the same kite I had had a pleasure flight about 20 years before. As they say about those old Douglases, you can’t wear them out but yo can break them. Hope Atlantic can keep these beautiful birds aloft for decades to come.

[@patrickvereecke6654]

SADLY this example G-SIXC was converted into a restaurant , but i believe this has been terminated , Another AAG G-APSA was dismantled in November 2020 before being transported on display at South Wales Museum , one active survivor in Alaska is Everts Fuel , another one in Switzerland " Red Bull " in disappointing livery , despite its bare metal looks 😔

[@esseff55]

@@patrickvereecke6654 I was a ground engineer on several legs of that farewell tour. Got my first CAA engineers type licence on the DC3/C47/Dakota and worked on them in the UK, Spain and Africa for many years. One of my favourite aircraft, along with the Dove, Heron and Islander.

[@Alien_O1]

Hello this is your captain speaking. 😁 Number one engine has stopped. So what were going to do is throttle up to takeoff speed then hopefully stop. So.... sit back relax and enjoy this madness. 😅

[@IBU-tec]

just so beautiful...

[@Liberator74]

Brilliant footage! I love the DC4s too! 😀

[@janentomenkafka]

Heb als kleine jongen nog in een (Sabena) DC6 gevlogen. Werd soms voor de grap het beste driemotorige vliegtuig genoemd. Deze clip toont vanwaar die bijnaam kwam. Maar een motor "in gang lopen" had ik nog nooit gezien :-)

[@zacktong8105]

Well and I recall a similar procedure used on a 707 from the Caribbean to New York where they couldn't get one of the engines to start on the ground, so they took it up on three without the passengers and then returned to load up with that engine left running and off they went! Ofcourse it didn't do alot to install confidence but it was a marginal operator from a lesser country so what the hell.

[@patrickvereecke6654]

thanks for this exhilarating comment !

[@GeorgeMCMLIX]

In all my decades in aviation I never heard of that! 😬

[@randombastid725]

@@GeorgeMCMLIX me either 🤣

[@randombastid725]

@@patrickvereecke6654 good come back🤣👏👏

[@starliner1649A]

The P&W R-2800 has a distinctive sound, not as noisy as others reciprocating engines.

[@jamesstephenpeyton3305]

8 Irish racehorses in a DC-4 from Toronto to New York in 1981. Horses were better behaved than most humans

[@wernerdanler2742]

Seems that the engine was running when he first pulled up. Did someone accidentally cut the fuel, and then the starter burned out? I flew across the Atlantic in 1956 in a connie. I told the pilot via a stewardess to stop the outboard port engine because of an exhaust flame. Running to rich at altitude. No 1? The captain later wanted to know who this 7 year old German kid was telling him what to do.

[@johnlacroix1639]

TY,,,,,,WOW incredible very interesting great information super kool, AAAAAAAAAAA++++++++++++ again great video I liked it a lot ,keep up the great work.

[@encinobalboa]

Number 1 engine bump start.

[@derekdee9592]

That's like 3rd world bush pilot type windmill start up. In Belguim ?? if hadn't seen video wouldn't have believed it. Good crew work !

[@josemariadacostacoelhofilh3083]

Awesome! Never heard about a windmill start on ground of a big PW radial. Don’t you think a rope start would have been a safer procedure?

[@rileysteve]

Hahahaha. The old "air-start" technique if you had a bad starter. You would run the manifold pressure on the inboards on up to full power (wet or dry) and bring the opposing outboard engine slowly up to about 40imp then as you got the wind-milling engine started you would bring both it and the opposing outboard engines up to T/O power as smoothly as you could, otherwise your foot was going to be holding the rudder at the stop!

[@flywithtb5005]

But doesnt the wind-milling engine have to warm up first before providing any power?

[@rileysteve]

@@flywithtb5005 Of course, there are operating parameters .

[@bkailua1224]

I flew the 6 for 6.5 years and did some windmill starts. I flew FE FO and as a Capt for 4 years. When I was in the left seat and I had an engineer who had never done one I would tell them when it starts rotating mags on and mix rich as soon as it starts I will abort and reverse the other three and no matter what happens just keep that engine running. Sometimes coming out of reverse if the FE did not get the mixtures right an engine would quit. This was something I didn't want to do more than once during the same flight. We never continued the takeoff and would taxi back and get it up to temp before takeoff. When I flew the L188 we could not do these types of ground windmill starts so we would have to takeoff empty on 3 and start it in flight then go back and land and load the airplane with the engine running. We really could load with number 3 or number 4 running as 1 and 2 it was too dangerous to load.

[@rileysteve]

@@bkailua1224 Yes. I agree. I did not like to continue into flight without a proper amount of warm-up time, but, there were occasions when it was done. As the old 2800's got older and older and we couldn't get 115/145 anymore, the situation became dangerous sometimes. Even a wet take-off was edgy. We knew it was time to retire from flying the '6's because it was inevitable they were going to kill us. The old girl's were just old and stretched to the limits too often. Funny you mention the 188. Used to load them all the time with #4 running on a quick turn-around. After flying the old piston windmills the 188's were like flying a fighter. I reflect back and it seems hard to believe I have out-lived so many types.

[@shaneconrad7816]

Pilot thinking, hope we get the engine cranked up before we hit reject distance. That was cool to blow start the engine.

[@chipps1066]

If a C-130 in a hostile airport cannot fire,another C-130 can park in front and go to max power and start the other 130.

[@louisvanrijn3964]

Would it be possible to windmill-start it by parking it staggered behind a full-power Herc? The R2800 is warmed up a little also.. Just an idea... I estimate the slipstream speed behind the standing Herc at least 250 km/h.... powerfull hence.

[@majobis]

In Alaska there is an air cargo outfit that at one time they had a whole fleet of the old DC6 aircraft. They have retired those DC6's in favor of jet aircraft probably some 20 years ago. Last I heard from my brother they are sitting by the wayside somewhere in Alaska in various states of being dismantlement for parts for other aircraft I assume around the world.

[@patrickvereecke6654]

thanks for info despite the sorry status now in Alaska

[@rescue270]

That was Northern Air Cargo. Their last DC-6 flight was in 2008. Currently Everts Air Cargo and Air Fuel out of Fairbanks operate the largest fleet of DC-6s. They have four to six in service most times.

[@majobis]

@@rescue270 the closest to riding a DC6 for me was the DC3 aircraft.. I got a ride on one when my small local airport hosted an airshow. It was great riding in it. You got to feel the old girl swaying in the wind. We buzzed over another airfield that was flying RC aircraft a couple of times. I got to walk up to the cockpit to chat with the pilots on the comms. This happened somewhere around 30 to 40 years ago for me.

[@rescue270]

@@majobis I actually rode in a DC-3 in airline service! Flew ftom Texarkana to Dallas in one back in 1968 when I was six years old. No cabin pressurization, my little ears were killing me. I was being a little shit on that trip, anyway. Just like back in the olden days, the stewardess came up the aisle with big handfuls of chewing gum for everybody to help relieve ear pressure. Well, I was being a little shit and tried to grab the whole pile from her. She was so sweet, didn't get mad or anything, and just explained the gum was for everybody. My mom... ....she was real mad at me

[@majobis]

@@rescue270 well weren't we all little shits at some point in our lives. Now I am an old shit, but still like looking at the old bird's in the sky's

[@TheBaron481]

what a treat ! Thanks for sharing

[@patrickvereecke6654]

welcome , a most memorable day , lucky that i could be present , tale of the unexpected

[@davidking3918]

I've never seen a DC6 and with 3 landing gear pretty cool

[@PasleyAviationPhotography]

Were you expecting more or less?

[@michelledauvergne6830]

C'était un très bel avion aux lignes élégantes.

[@patrickvereecke6654]

Premier vol 15/02/1946 , un véritable classique , nostalgique !

[@vipbizjets]

Very nice Video

[@aarondengate8085]

Seen this herky at manston june 1988 arrived from raf leeming

[@mizzyroro]

Are you trying to tell me they had starter issues on #1 so they did a takeoff run to get it to windmill and that's how they got it started????

[@patrickvereecke6654]

CORRECT

[@rajbahadurverma6762]

Very good Video

[@CreRay]

Fascinating footage! For me the question is, why was #1 engine shut off in the first place? One commenter mentioned bad starter, but surely that has not been the reason for turning it off. There were no repairs done on the ground at Ostend right?

[@patrickvereecke6654]

none whatsoever , it continued doing several more test flights that wonderful , unique day

[@MrThemold]

#1 engine

[@samaipata4756]

Probably cost a small fortune on fuel, but hey it worked!👍😉

[@patrickvereecke6654]

busy afternoon , test flights after fixing the problem , a private airshow😄

[@Too519]

wonderful

[@patrickvereecke6654]

A very lucky unusual event ;)

[@wilsonlaidlaw]

Those R2800 Double Wasps are getting old.

[@mountainmarauder2575]

That was strange! Why was the second attempt done with the #4 not feathered?

[@mariovuksanovic5077]

Will the number 1 engine stay on once started? Were they at any risk of the number 1 engine turning off again? Isn't it better practice to cancel the flight until everything is working properly?

[@cesarioj.f.g.7959]

Back in the day in Transafrik we had a 727 that needed to do a RTO in order to open the "bleeds" before the real TO ;) those were the days

[@brianhealey5286]

No. 1 Engine is not happy. Prop Synchronizer not working...wing and a prayer you betcha!

[@gordon-n6s]

If there had been a heavy load/fuel that might explain it.

[@ellischernoff8603]

Windmill start of #1; very cleaver but is it approved?

[@patrickvereecke6654]

;) , possibly , however good show , most memorable afternoon , Ostend had its fair share of surprises over the years , i was not complaining

[@davef.2811]

@@patrickvereecke6654 That's not Central America or the Caribbean. I'm really surprised they tried that in Europe and got away with it. Did you notice that when they finally took off, the #4 prop was turning slower than the rest?

[@patrickvereecke6654]

Ostend may have had its own rules ? ! , peculiar airport and traffic , i was not complaining :)

[@gani999]

@@patrickvereecke6654 Ostend sure did have its own rules - both for the aircraft and the cargoes some of them carried ;)

[@altair7001]

@@davef.2811 Yep I saw that. However the blurring could also indicate that the engine was turning faster than the others. They must have been having tach problems on #4.

[@patrickvereecke6654]

6.17 friendly wave ;)

[@av8tore71]

Older video seeing there was a C-141 in the back ground

[@patrickvereecke6654]

C-130 Hercules , Belgian Air Force , have been mostly retired by now

[@telkoehf175]

this is low octain fuel

[@fabrealain579]

🤩🤩🤩👍👌😊

[@philipbahia924]

ok doesn't the pilot know that one of the engines is not working.

[@tonyhernandez3227]

Stubborn DC-6 LoL 😂

[@juliojames5986]

25% of power gone, and they take off …..try a take off ? Loaded ? Was this brilliant piloting , or something else ?

[@patrickvereecke6654]

windmill start

[@juliojames5986]

@@patrickvereecke6654 That is not allways successful . A big gamble ! A better choice is to park it.

[@esseff55]

@@juliojames5986Not a take-off attempt, it's a high-speed run to windmill start the engine. Once the engine is running, they'd return to the piano keys with ATC permission and take off normally.

[@SuperOldandSlow]

Automatic downvote for any video that is interrupted by commercials.

[@robertzinggeler2138]

F

[@charlesrousseau6837]

From a spectator standpunt: absolutely terrific. From a piloting standpoint: absolutely dumb.

[@apogaeum4313]

From the operator's standpoint: Do it, we'll fix it at home! - Have witnessed it on Fk27, Vc9, L188 and on this Dc6 G-SIXC "Jimmy the One".

[@esseff55]

Absolutely dumb? Really? Care to explain why? (to an aircraft engineer who's spent many years maintaining old piston-engined aircraft, including the DC3 and DC6 and known their operating crews including a flight engineer with decades of world-wide experience the type).

[@altair7001]

There was absolutely nothing dumb in that procedure, it's just another way to start an engine when the starter is defective.

[@arthurmee]

I've started my petrol engine cars this way many times over the decades 😊

[@omarraafat9792]

Sorry open

[@omarraafat9792]

Engine is fail