3 Different Ways To Rivet Up Tongs!! Tips and Trick to help you put your tongs together!

Going to try and create a little bit more content this week by showing you things I'm doing day to day.
A bit more vloggie I guess and I know thats not every ones cup of tea. However I have tried very hard to make this one worth a watch. In this video I hope to help you get your tongs together and set up really nice. I'll be showing you at home a couple of ways of making and closing rivets on tongs. I'll also be making some of the tools you will need to do this task.
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[@mtyson9004]

Great tools Dan! Thanks for sharing and God Bless you sir!

[@coopersm2]

Quite a riveting video...(I'll show myself out...) Seriously though, looking forward to trying these techniques out

[@-fazik-3713]

Thanks!

[@verdigrissirgidrev4152]

My riveting process: 1 calculate rivet length. 2 use the wrong reign thickness, cut the rivet short due to sloppy marking etc and of course a drift that is slightly too big. 3 rivet the tongs, then notice rivet is too short to hold well, end up arc welding short side to the rein.

[@danielmoss2089]

we have all been there. nice comment.

[@bentoombs]

Thanks dude. I struggle with rivits. Lol Bigger hammer... Ok, I'll try that. 😜🔨On!!

[@tokolosh11]

Awesome and very informativ video as always Dan. I do like the "make tools to make tools" type of video's. Thanks for sharing.

[@IveysFamilyFactotum]

Great video Dan. I really need to make more tooling for making rivets and tongs for myself.

[@douglasfathers4848]

Not boring at all but very informative so keep them coming mate .cheers.

[@marcerivest6204]

Nice simple tooling that works good and lots of tricks

[@TP-xi7ri]

Thanks for the video, I enjoy all that you make. T

[@haroldhoskison7239]

I enjoy your videos and I always learn so much!

[@duaneaubuchon9453]

I really like your videos great job sir!!!

[@scoobshagg]

Great video, have really been the info on your channel

[@henrimeunier8981]

Great video ! Thanks for the content !

[@mjonesjr75]

Loved the the video all the way to the end. Thanks for all you do Dan

[@kensmapleleafretirement]

Good fun. Something to keep me out of my wife's hair. Thanks for your tutelage. Yes, I think you are right, we are in a peek of YT viewers right now. Heck, they are even watching me.... Well, that was good fun as always. I still see and hear Ricky Gervais in you sometimes. Just a flash here and there. Good Job, Daniel... Thank You...

[@wayneheitz8390]

Thank you for all of your help and inspiration.

[@gypsie]

Nice work I'm going to try this myself at home

[@trknust]

I always "Ick up a trick or two on every one of your videos. Please don't worry about any of us getting bored I think we all hope one day to have your command of a hammer. The only thing I would ask is if you can please tell us the alloy you are using and if it is from a coil spring or some other source that helps as well. I am looking forward to your hammer making. I love the design of yours and it seems a lot harder than any of mine. As you tap the anvil, it has Lots of springy bounce to it.

[@danielmoss2089]

I smashed this video out so it's a bit rough. Trying to build the channel a little but. So I'll make some mistakes. I think I did say it was forklift truck tyne or 4140. If I didn't sorry.

[@techronmattic5876]

Lots going on there Dan, your definately doing more than your fair share to keep us entertained👍

[@danielmoss2089]

Thanks dude your keeping me alive and sane

[@chrislawrence6015]

Hi mate great vid for some reason i have not been getting notifications for ages I have some catching up to do. Great timing on the vid as I have just got a set of old military rivet set snap tools and had no idea how to use them

[@Aminuts2009]

Nice tooling, it helps a lot to see it done. Cheers from Alaska.

[@danielmoss2089]

Sorry I did such a bad job lol. If the cameras on the rivet will go wrong.

[@Aminuts2009]

@@danielmoss2089 oh no not at all. I thought everything was just fine and I can replicate everything you did. No power hammer but i can get a good approximation with hand tooling.

[@brysonalden5414]

I love using galvanized bolts which have the galvo soaked off. As you say, much faster! Nice tooling, by the by.

[@williamcunha9136]

Thank You Dan for the Awesome Nuggets of Knowledge!

[@jamesreyes4184]

Great video as always Dan, for some reason i have always found it hard riveting, and i can now see the error of my ways. I never start off with the right length of bar stock. Thanks for the video and ideas, will give them all a go, especially the bolt idea.. question do you typically burn the galvanizing off or do you use vin and water?

[@danielmoss2089]

I have started using brick acid takes about 2hours and they are all clean.

[@benperkins10]

very helpful video, thanks. You may want some more time between you talking and the transitions as you are sometimes cut off a little early...

[@danielmoss2089]

That's often due to the fact I was talking shit lol. I made this video very fast and I'm sure there's lots of issues. Thanks for the feed back still learning.

[@tomcarlson3244]

I love to watch the simple tooling. There is always tricks on how I can do it a lot easier.

[@georgegriffiths2235]

The 8.8 is similar to EN 19 (forklift Tyne)

[@FredKustomGarage]

Yours hands are more damaged than mine! 😁 You will need put cream 😉

[@danielmoss2089]

I know constantly got something going on. It's not good lol

[@SSSmithing]

Great video Dan

[@charminghollowforge1109]

Cool info Dan thank you

[@BBForge]

very cool Dan

[@6Sally5]

Ok…subscribed!…based on the quality and craftsmanship of your project, your explanations, and that you obviously care enough about your craft to get bloody (not the Queen’s English phrase) and filthy dirty…which is an endearing quality. I’ll need to brush up on English phraseology, but will get there!😁

[@deanhooks4474]

Awesome!

[@KageStelhman]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with things a bit to long Daniel... Especially since you're learning a bunch of really useful stuff along the way. Anyhow I hope you and yours are doing well :) Take care and stay safe ^.^

[@tyleranderson8751]

I am glad you didn’t decided to start making knives! I wonder if there’s something you can do so you don’t have so much echo in your videos

[@mensterhillforge1644]

Great video! I enjoy your channel a lot an have learned a lot!

[@danielmoss2089]

Thank you and it's a pleasure.

[@Carterironworks]

I really like the explanations you give as you go along. It helps let us know exactly what you're doing or trying to do and why, thanks for the videos.

[@neilgillmore]

Good show bro !!

[@michaeledwards5954]

Nice Dan, might be my project in the workshop tomorrow methinks. Thanks for the inspiration. Cheers from down under.

[@MySickstring]

Daniel, thanks for this one. We do appreciate everything you post. I quite enjoy the little things, so don’t sweat putting up what you consider ordinary. Thanks man!

[@stevenlarsen1691]

I'm making a railing with belly pickets. Any ideas for making a jig?

[@sergiykumalagov3801]

Daniel доброго здравия! Полезное видео, делаешь клещи не только функциональными но и еще и с эстетическим видом.

[@damianmcneely7884]

Dan, did you make a video on how to make the scrolling dog tool you have? I found an old video from 2017 but its a different style. Cheers

[@neilchiffers8591]

Ive just come across your videos in the last few days. Great videos and ill be looking to buy a few things of you. Keep up the good work 👍

[@NeilGraham.I.M.F]

Yea u dont ever wanna run out of fuel, n thats what i do. Get tools ready then drop n loss them just as i need them

[@starforged]

A great video. One thing I do is take a punch put a round bar and hammer a flat part in the punch. This does two things. It identifies the hitting end and also make a flat part that keeps your punch from rolling off your bench or anvil. Thank you for all your help.

[@HansPacker]

Quickly becoming one of my favorite blacksmith channels. Very nice instructions.

[@CookieLPGames]

Awesome video! Instead of forging in the negative rivet heads in your Tooling you could drill them out. I did that for my first set of riveting tools and they turned out great. I like the slightly pointed rivet heads you get with them.

[@DeepCreekIronWorks]

Good job sir, becoming more of a fan all the time. Your information is always on point. Planning on retiring in a few years and doing this as a retirement career. You have been a big wealth of information

[@scottwallingwindyacresiron2654]

Great video!! I’m glad to see your extra tools sitting on the anvil face find there way to the floor like mine do!! I’m going to try bolts for rivets I’ve used round bar mostly. Way faster.

[@danielmoss2089]

Used to do it like that but the bolts seem to get me going nowadays. Thanks for the great comment.

[@andywright2606]

I really enjoyed this video Dan, there seems to be so many different ways to forge and set a rivet. Always good to try new methods till you find one that suits you, and then someone post a video and the preferred method changes again lol. Cheers Mate !

[@blkacid]

Check your Etsy messages. ;) I need to make some tongs. Project for this week. So this is good timing!

[@ianlowe4666]

Is the coke supply issue down to the lock down Dan or is it basic availability? I've got a bit over a tonne left at the minute so I'm not desperate but it's good to have a heads up. Nice tools btw ;)

[@danielmoss2089]

I'm not sure if it's going to be an issue just yet but the place I buy mine was running low. I'm assuming the farrier that goes there did the same thing I did and brought up a load. Plus a couple of hobbiest have reared the ugly heads lol.

[@danielmoss2089]

Went made and finished of the pallet. They said more is on its way.

[@Milan22229]

i´d like a vlog about ur dayjob as an engeneer if your boss allows you filming your work

[@thetradesman7478]

Another job well done. I really enjoy the information in your videos.

[@lenblacksmith8559]

Good one Dan I had a bit of trouble when I made my riveting tools, but they are ok. Good one mate.

[@deathspawn54]

Awesome video thanks for the information

[@philmenzies2477]

@0:54 ❤ Makes me feel so much better about the time I spend taking the dog for a stroll when he was least expecting one

[@peterdriver4760]

Hi I was always told that you should never hit an hammer with a hammer ?

[@danielmoss2089]

You shouldn't did I do that?

[@firebird8600]

@@danielmoss2089 I think Triple Driver is referring to your flatter. Looks a bit hammer-y

[@hannemannironworks1651]

I need to make these tools but I’ve taken a page out of Jared Russell’s book he gets his rivet stock gets the end hot locks it in a vise and upsets the head then cuts it off and rivets it. This works well for me only have used it on spatulas though. And you can never have enough fuel for the forge unless you have like 40 tons then maybe that’s overkill. Thanks for sharing I learned a few tricks!

[@danielmoss2089]

Seems like ball ache but if it works for you. I alway find upsetting in the vise marks the edge of the material you don't want to mark.

[@danielmoss2089]

Thanks for the comment dude. Means a lot and I'm greatful for the support.

[@hannemannironworks1651]

Daniel Moss yeah it does leave a flat on the material but that get put into the hole and upset into the piece. It’s a quick and dirty rivet for sure

[@seanlosee7352]

You’re up late!

[@danielmoss2089]

Just gone half 10 here.

[@erikcourtney1834]

Got a bit of chocolate scrumptious around your mouth there Dan. 😜 gotta love it

[@danielmoss2089]

Grease of the hammer me thinks. Gotta stop licking it lol.

[@danielmoss2089]

Also first one and I'm surprised it took so long lol

[@erikcourtney1834]

😂 I had to comment on it. It’s impossible to stay clean in the shop.

[@kennethdodds2323]

Nice video. Some good suggestions.

[@JacobvsRex]

How do you go about getting the galv off the bolts?

[@ianlowe4666]

Acid will do it, vinegar even. Dan mentioned using brick cleaner.

[@danielmoss2089]

Sure did. Covered it in a recent video can't remember which one it was lol. Sorry.

[@chrislawrence6015]

Hi mate great vid for some reason i have not been getting notifications for ages I have some catching up to do. Great timing on the vid as I have just got a set of old military rivet set snap tools and had no idea how to use them

[@danielmoss2089]

I was just think I haven't seen a Chris comment for a while. How's things hope you and the family are well?

[@chrislawrence6015]

@@danielmoss2089 im good and hope you are. i will drop you a mail as I want some tools and been having nightmare with patron stopping my sponsorship but I will drop you a mail privately

[@danielmoss2089]

Looking forward to it talk soon.

[@TAS1303]

Good stuff Dan I struluggle with rivets I always seem to get some expansion of the river between the tong halves.

[@ianlowe4666]

If the mating faces of the hinge plates aren't tight up against each other and remain tight up against each other until the rivet is set then this can happen @ Shamrock Forge. If your rivet is a tight fit this is actually a little easier to avoid as you can use the set (or a suitably sized monkey tool) to tap the mating faces of the hinge plate together and the rivet will keep them in place till you can give it that first, good setting blow. Otherwise the trick is to keep heavy downward pressure on the uppermost tong as you initially set the rivet to ensure the mating faces are tight up against one another until everything locks. Once its locked in place you can ease off the pressure and go on to dome the head with the snap, free up the reins etc etc. If you're doing all that already and are still having an issue then look at the punched holes themselves, are they tapered or drifted? In what orientation are the tapers if not? Hour glass or barrel? One is likely to 'lock' far better than the other during that critical first setting blow. Hope that makes sense.

[@00_negative]

I thought I was the only one that when I strike the piece on the anvil that everything else falls off lol. Awsome vid info I needed to know.

[@danielmoss2089]

Na bro me too. Lol

[@00_negative]

@@danielmoss2089 yeah I even tried using a magnet to stick things too while not using them.....it magnetizing Steel so trying to put something back in the Forge makes a little tough when it won't let go lol. Cant when for loosing but makes for good comedy in vids