3 Reasons to BAN FFS!!!

[@chaddavison6895]

I think if it is legal, then you are forced to use it to compete. I personally would prefer not to use it. But since it is allowed, I am trying to incorporate it into my game

[@BehindTheReelFishing]

I know you'll catch em either way!!

[@GreatPlainsKayakAngler-dr8gg]

I’m mostly neutral on this, but have some concerns for the long run. I can see it having a negative affect on mature fish, that traditionally would not have been caught, brought up from deep, possibly not fizzed correctly, hauled around in a warm “live well” and dumped after the show. I don’t see how this can’t have a negative impact after multiple times a season on the same fishery. I hope I’m wrong. Again, just IMHO from a regular guy that fished out of a plastic boat.

[@bcurnutte8528]

I disagree that FFS should be banned. Everyone has had the choice to learn it. At the least, maybe limits should be placed for the amount of time used. Electronic equipment is the future.

[@BehindTheReelFishing]

Right? No one is at a disadvantage unless they choose not to use it. 🤷‍♂️

[@LowMyco99]

Loved the video. Your points are well thought out and spot on. I think it’s guys who just don’t like change or like you said, they just haven’t tried to use it or have wildly inaccurate ideas of how it works.

[@jflesh.bassin4948]

All Valid points. I hear a lot of talk for and against this technology. I think we should have those conversations, but for it to be a healthy conversation, we have to drop our preconceived notions and be willing to look at all the valid points on both sides. Well done.

[@BehindTheReelFishing]

Thanks man! I'm willing to have that discussion for sure. Honestly at the end of the day I want what's best for the sport! I could sell the hell out of some flashers! 🤣

[@thereeldevin1875]

Love the channel and talking points. FFS will never go away because if it gets banned the Sponsorship money goes away too. If the average Joe Angler has it the pro should have it and vice versa.

[@dannyhartsell1495]

Very good Jon. Thank you for taking your time to make these informative videos.

[@BehindTheReelFishing]

Yessir. Thank you for your continued support!

[@cyberyakeradventures]

Its all relative. Same thoughts when FF came out years and years ago. Some could afford the tech and some couldn't. Some said it was like cheating. Etc.

[@BehindTheReelFishing]

At this point in the game opinions don't matter. Either you learn how to use it or get left behind. There's a few guys out there that can compete without out. I suppose the more people lean on it the more of an anywhere a bank beater could gain! 🤔

[@B-DINO]

​@BehindTheReelFishing I'm still learning to use and read a basic ff, I'm wayyy behind. I'm 30 and have bass fished for forever without any tech, I'd love to join tournaments and be part of the fishing community but up until recently I just couldn't afford to keep up with Joneses. It's an expensive hobby or career as-is just getting a reliable boat. But to be fair; I'd much rather be in my position where I don't know the tech but know the fish...rather than someone who has all the tech but doesn't know the fish or the skill. I agree with your assessment though, it's the same way with any sport. You can go golfing with a $100 set of clubs...You're just not going to keep up if you go out there to play professionally or in tournaments (generally speaking). It shouldn't be banned to use, but it also shouldn't be mandatory to join. Win-win.

[@LanceBurris]

I don’t believe it should be banned but the producers need to find a better way to make it entertaining. I personally don’t enjoy watching it right now. The professional using it in a tournament isn’t worried about teaching the viewer as they compete so I’d rather watch it on KZbin if I want to learn how to use it. MLF does about the best job keeping it entertaining by switching around to multiple different boats and views of the surroundings keeping it visually appealing. There’s not much you can do on the big bodies offshore but I remember before ffs the pro would talk about what he’s fishing or what he’s doing next, painting a picture you could relate to.

[@thelittleguy-ih8nv]

I agree they should ban it. And I'd also include mega 360. Shouldn't be able to be dependent on electronics.

[@BehindTheReelFishing]

Probably a little late to ban either of these technologies, but might have to be careful what they allow moving forward.

[@0013619511]

The states will decide conservation departments will be the first to ban it if it is proving to damage bass fishing!

[@BehindTheReelFishing]

The states have decided this has not negatively effected fish populations...maybe future studies will come up with different conclusions.

[@kylestreeter6205]

I’m indifferent. I think you’re spot on with your arguments. The people wanting this banned, Randy blaukat, we’re the same guys back in the 90s and 2000s when bass fishing was transitioning from flashers to black and white fish finders who complained about that. The guys who complain with any advancement. This far removed from the release of ffs and the lower cost gives guys more options.

[@andybales7318]

There's a big difference between flashers & Livescope😂

[@bigdunford]

Those guys spent years perfecting their craft. I get it. It sucks for a "kid" to come in and start beating you, but that kids spent the last 5 years mastering this new technology. I love Randy's intuative part of his channel, but that smug grin when he talks about banning ffs drives me crazy. Lol

[@andybales7318]

@@bigdunford majority of real anglers don't consider cheating a real technique..if u are a phoney angler, it's all good...plenty of them around

[@bigdunford]

@@andybales7318 I did the same thing with 2D and waypoints before ffs. Was that too much technology for you, to be a "real fisherman"?

[@andybales7318]

@@bigdunford 2d not even close to Livescope

[@mativakuresa6815]

No skills using FFS buddy I’ve been using it for the last 2yrs. First time I got it literally took me 2hrs to figure it out and be good at it. These pro anglers need to show me something other then looking down, showcase your skills skipping docks punching ext… here’s my take on FFS. 4hrs using ffs and 4hrs without it that will be interesting.

[@muthafukajones1513]

You have never used ffs. I know that by your comment.

[@BehindTheReelFishing]

Catching fish is easier with FFS than without it.. for sure! But I think we also need to take into account how much more pressured these fish are because EVERYONE has it. Might be interesting to see them fish without it but that seems like a slippery slope.

[@mativakuresa6815]

@@muthafukajones1513 hey buddy I’m not here to argue with you rather I have one or not. I said what I said about ffs and also a solution 4/4. But you came at me like a drama queen with your panties all up in a bunch. I can tell you suck at fishing by your comment oh by the way I have ffs.

[@mativakuresa6815]

@@BehindTheReelFishing i totally agree with you brother I miss the old fashion way of tournament fishing. But we all know ffs is here to stay rather we like it or not. Is it good for the sport that’s hard to answer. Is it good for entertainment absolutely not. Good video and keep up the good work.

[@BehindTheReelFishing]

@mativakuresa6815 thank you!

[@flippinslabsfishing3137]

I personally think for the Crappie fishing side of it when it comes to the professionals not your local derby guys. It has grown the sport. There is a lot of money in Crappie boats now days which brings in more sponsorship opportunities for your professionals. The guys traveling all over the country competing in a points race can compete with the local guy that just enters his home lake tournament trying to cash a pro check.

[@andybales7318]

You are kidding yourself, if u think talent is involved in FFS

[@BehindTheReelFishing]

How much time do you have using FFS?

[@andybales7318]

@@BehindTheReelFishing zero...I prefer using skills I've developed & techniques I've learned over the years to actually enjoy the challenge of bass fishing...You can spin it all u want, Livescope is exactly like playing a video game...every tournament is won the same way...idle around, find fish, drop your bait in the water to the exact depth of the fish thx to seeing it on the screen, couple twitches in their face...set the hook...Bassmaster Classic really screwed up by showing the winners Livescope on live tv...he did exactly like I just stated & it was seen by alot of anglers...Today, anyone can win any tournament, any lake by just using Livescope, which proves there is no special skills involved....the winner, is who idles over the most/quality fish...Livescope is the true "angler"

[@ernestcoleman4672]

There's a lot of bugs in everything you just said, which don't match your title.

[@BehindTheReelFishing]

Care to elaborate on those "bugs?"

[@fatbackcrowe2448]

It's the professional that is educating the fish. Common everyday angler doesn't use it. Skill is debatable, learning techniques don't require FFS. Again watching the fish on FFS is going to tell you what the fish want you just have to watch. It's not entertaining watching someone stare at a screen the entire time! Shills for the use of it should be banned!

[@BehindTheReelFishing]

Everyone on my lake uses it. Probably the same on yours! I think the people that have it can benefit from seeing how the pros use it.

[@muthafukajones1513]

Before ffs, they were staring at screens so that argument holds no weight.

[@fatbackcrowe2448]

Explain please. look at past events and I think you will realize you are wrong!@@muthafukajones1513

[@fatbackcrowe2448]

I guess you need live-scope to punch and frog! @@muthafukajones1513

[@BehindTheReelFishing]

@muthafukajones1513 this is true...I don't remember the 2D outrage but maybe that was before my time 🤔

[@PerryShriver]

great stuff.you tell it like it is.👍👍👍👍👍

[@frankiemiller61]

we shouldn't ban FFS unless we ban motors spot lock power poles Pedal drives ECT and just stick with paddling

[@frankiemiller61]

But you are spot on with this video you nailed it down exact even before I had it I never complained about it It just made me fish harder

[@andybales7318]

A screen showing your bait, allowing u to put to your bait at the exact depth of the fish, and right in their face...😂 No skill, no talent, and no technique...anyone that thinks it is, 100% delusional, plain stupid, or just rarely catches much due to little talent....it's very obvious, Livescope is the real "angler" in today's tournaments

[@muthafukajones1513]

Yes, it’s far more entertaining to watch a guy blind cast down a bank

[@andybales7318]

@@muthafukajones1513 thanks for confirming u rarely catch anything & have no skill, talent, or technique. You probably use livescope & live bait 😄 move along chump

[@0013619511]

I think this whole issue is Brandon world !

[@BehindTheReelFishing]

Interesting.

[@xOrganik]

Can we just ban it in kayak tournaments until I get it and use it for awhile 😂

[@BehindTheReelFishing]

Haha you trying to scope some drum or what? 🤣

[@bigdunford]

I can't understand why everyone's arguing that it's boring to watch people stare at their graph. I don't care if they're staring down or straight up to the sky, it's no different. Imo it's all boring to watch unless you're learning something.

[@BehindTheReelFishing]

I can get with that! Seeing their screen definitely adds some entertainment and educational value!

[@muthafukajones1513]

Exactly. It makes no difference. It’s just an excuse that lazy, crybaby’s make so they don’t have to put the work in to learn something new.

[@chriswainwright755]

I have had FFS when it came out. It took me about a year to get dialed in and really understand it. Im older so was not that tech savvy? It don’t help me catch more fish, but it does increase my chances to selective fish to upgrade my size to increase my weight. Sometimes it works but most times it doesn’t. It’s worth it when it does. Sick of this debate it’s stupid go fish man!

[@rileymcgill9893]

Kinda sad you gotta have ffs to compete in Wednesday nighters or kayak tournaments. That's where the price hurts and discourages anglers. Obviously it's not high level tournaments that people cant afford ffs 😂😂😂. If you're gonna use that bull shit argument atleast tell the truth instead of stating that it has become affordable. Do you see how that could exclude a certain demographic of people? 20 years ago if a guy was better than you he could beat you outta 14 ft jonboat with a 25. I gotta feelin those days are gone

[@jamesrice304]

Stop pushing gaming outdoors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@BehindTheReelFishing]

No thanks!