3 trains and 2 tracks: A problem on the Toledo District

[@NS8010]

This comment section is cancer

[@sirwbm]

NW Ohio Trains how is it cancer?? I like the video

[@nateski4852]

lmfao

[@maddawgnp]

Good video brother. Also, not sure if you've had the chance. Take a trip to Nati. Check out Queensgate. It's freakin awesome! Also, if you go or have gone? Next time go eat at the Incline Public House. It's on the western hills overlooking downtown Cincinnati in Price Hill. Great views of ALL the rails all over downtown. You get views of Queensgate, the bridges over the Ohio River and all the trackage in and out of the south side of Queensgate.

[@Focusonbehind]

stop buying iPhones

[@deaderthandead1182]

Niepi he didn't. He just accidentally

[@AVoltigeur]

Lol.. I was engineer on the rear (East) engines of Wheeling 93. I remember that day! It was funny. our conductor didn't update the length with Toledo dispatcher. M8A barely fit.

[@MrBlue-ib7oi]

that's what she said.

[@Belleville197]

Is that a regular thing ? Manned helpers on the rear ? From Bellevue to CN Lang Yard I presume ?

[@AVoltigeur]

yes. power on both ends every trip. Makes spinning the train in Bellevue faster. Helps with heavier trains too.

[@robertkerr3059]

perhaps a glib solution on my part born of ignorance so forgive me in advance and let me say I have full respect for you guys but isnt there a simple RF reader that can do a calculation based on where the trainmaster is directing it to go? i.e. "error code 101- train to long for siding" or some such, I surely have been guilty of over-simplifying things before, hope I get a chance to see the horseshoe curve before fall hits hard, cheers !

[@AVoltigeur]

Robert Kerr we have scanners but there are variables. Our previous mark up showed us shorter. my conductor was supposed to update that info with dispatcher but failed to.

[@flyingspotscanner]

Contrary to the headline, no one "messed up" here. This was all planned and carefully executed by the dispatcher and crews. It's called "doubling the siding." BTW, only 2 trains are involved here, not 3. Only looks like three.

[@megatrains]

Great catch!!

[@jodypearce9515]

Reminds me of 1 train watching experience I had in Streator, Illinois. 5 trains on 1 double track main(BNSF). BNSF, UP, KCS, CSX, NS, & CN all represented. Plus various lease units like CREX. Also lots of DPUs.

[@usm-4kagnew165]

Larry Parsons was the EVP of Operations of the SP/SSW/D&RGW, right before the UP merger. He was also friends with Phil Anschutz. Probably where he got his inspiration the D&RGW paint scheme on the WLE locomotives. Looks like the WLE got by the signal and fouled the switch. We used to call this a "corn field meet."

[@douglasskaalrud6865]

Worth watching just to hear the great sound from the Dash-2. Nothing better than a turbocharged 645.

[@denisberger9657]

Would of loved to hear the chatter on the rail frequency on that screwup

[@dougborrett3566]

Just a quick English lesson here, it isn't WOULD OF loved to hear the chatter, it is WOULD HAVE or WOULD'VE loved to hear the chatter, here endeth the lesson.

[@markgorney3325]

thank's!

[@Focusonbehind]

@Dough Borret It's a dirty job but someone has to do it!

[@jodypearce9515]

Denis Berger someone would have said something profane😊

[@MBTAMoreRailfan]

Denis Berger yea “Someone fucked up. The Lake Erie is on our track. Get some dude down here” *UP flips its shit*

[@trainships1795]

Well, that Certainly Caused Confussion And delay That day .

[@deaderthandead1182]

TRAIN SHIPS haha! TTE reference

[@cedricwyche3896]

Perfect Comment 😂

[@madkirk7431]

yup

[@cjbalke8691]

If I remember, that type of manuever used to be called a "saw-by" and would have saved John Luther Jones himself if not for a broken air hose.

[@TriStateRailfan]

"life tip. never be in a rush" -NW Ohio Trains 2016

[@CXensation]

Even 2 trains, both being too long for the siding, can pass each other on that same too short siding, with a little extra kicking of cars back and forth. May even be the only solution on a busy congested line. Fairly standard procedure these days, when still more goods needs to be hauled after the big crisis has gone.

[@NorfolkSouthernES44AC]

Talk about unusual! Cool that you got to film it, also neat that UP 5555 was leading!

[@NS8010]

+Norfolk Southern ES44AC yes sir, it was. And i didn't notice the number until I watched the video back. Pretty neat! Thanks!

[@silicon212]

@@NS8010 You want to talk about inception. Many years ago, when SP was still a railroad, I had befriended several crew members who worked a local train at night in the east of Metro Phoenix. As a budding model railroader at the time, I had made a model of SP 7120, an MK rebuilt GP40 (GP40M-2 they called it). I had taken this with me to show the crew, and was actually invited into the cab of the locomotive to show the engineer. What I didn't realize at that instant was the unit I was in the cab of ... was SP 7120.

[@leologan]

it just takes a little see-saw maneuver thats all, happens more than you would think

[@allgr8429]

They should relay the original LS&MS main line through here. There's still room for it. The track was still there until about 1980.

[@dutch2120]

Watched this first of your many videos, And just subscribed! Fantastic shots, Very well produced! Keep up the great work and I am going to sit here and watch all of your videos tonight! P.S. Those phone screen breakages Suck! I just replaced mine for the second time.

[@NS8010]

Thanks a ton, man! I really appreciate it!

[@KingJD8686]

I love the sound of trains in the morning

[@mgr_video_productions]

Awesome catch! Cool number on the UP AC4400CW too.

[@NS8010]

+Middle Georgia Railfan yes sir, thank you!

[@csxohiorailfan2473]

What rush were you in that broke your phone?

[@Jason-c1b3r]

What was the third train? I saw the back tanker on the train but what was the company that was running that train?

[@t.t.6398]

You should see it when the Port Road dispatcher and the Amtrak Ctec section 3 get messed up! We've had 9 trains jamed up in a stand off for HOURS! LOL!

[@rustyshackleford9115]

Wow ! You got tons and tons of trainz !

[@tnrpvideo1414]

1:01 what website did you use to make that locomotive?

[@RailfanJason]

Man, that part where the UP and WLE units are in the same shot... Rio Grande inspired paint scheme meeting UP. Like I said on messenger, that looks like it should be out west in Colorado. But it's Ohio! :D Super neat video Spencer!

[@NS8010]

+Railfan Jason Thanks dude. Only in Ohio can such a thing happen :P I love this state.

[@buckeyerails15]

And i do to. Man Ohio is a HEARTLAND for trains!

[@LoopedCat]

Rail Gamer Productions you bet I see trains and crossings every where I go

[@LoopedCat]

it's also why I live in that state

[@ELWOOD960]

Awesome Video Spencer..You do a great job.The colors are awesome along with sounds.

[@NS8010]

Thanks greatly, I do appreciate it.

[@ashevilletrainman6989]

BEST INTRO EVER?! Short and gets the blood pumping .... u have my sub

[@HappyQuailsLC]

Wow! What a sharp picture and fine composition! I am impressed.

[@sirensofneohio3979]

Nice video! I actually used to live in Bradner, OH in Wood County about a quarter mile from the CSX Pemberville Sub

[@denisgoguen9823]

Did the Lake Eries train just run a red

[@mawriverbird]

Great catch. I have always wondered how this type of situation would be handled.

[@rateyesmertz3785]

Union Pacific train dispatchers don't know the lenght of the trains they dispatch or the length of their sidings--- they would have to open a timetable or look at a consist

[@thomasklimchuk441]

I am surprised the Union Pacific doesn't have computer assisted train dispatches where the computer will help the train dispatcher. The train dispatcher can still override the computer

[@rateyesmertz3785]

@@thomasklimchuk441 They do. They switch it on and go eat lunch or go have a smoke. Instead of looking up how long a train is or lookingn at a timetable to see how long a sidetrack is they ask the conductor on the radio. Nobody likes doing work for a dispatcher. UP has an emergency system, if you derail or hit a car you dial 911 on the keypad of the radio. Supposedly everything stops in Omaha till the trouble is settled. I hhit a car once and it took 45 minutes for the dispatcher to respond. Having a smoke or a sammich. Train crews don't think of dispatchers as human beings, just heartless disembodied voices on a radio. They don't have feelings or feel pain like you and me.

[@CSXRailfanning]

I railfan in Toledo Ohio since it’s my hometown for 14 years

[@CaptainJustice166]

Man that was crazy! Great work regardless Spencer!!!

[@moonbeamskies3346]

Is that a nice long multi-use path paralleling the tracks?

[@SOU6900]

How long was this whole thing taking before you had to leave?

[@Mike-tg7dj]

Hey what you caught was gold anyway! I bet somebody had some explaining to do that day. Delays cause cascades was this part of a cascade event or just a plain old ordinary cluster funk. If its a cascade the dispatcher's head stays if not well heads do roll....

[@MechInfantry2AD]

Great job on the vid. Why couldn't you stay for the Wheeling train to pass throught? Someone waving you out?

[@paullindberg9230]

Nice colorful head end. enjoy your. Videos.

[@rosemaryarmitage3391]

I was going to have lunch with my Aunt. Had to cross the track in the train yard. And I was watching these two train coming. And low and behold they were on the same track. I wave the closest one and point out that the other train was on the same track. It was a very close call. They came to a stop just over a yard away from each other.

[@Mvp-AngelOfGod]

Rosemary Armitage bs

[@pixletrooper8500]

Rosemary Armitage wow

[@VarianceVic]

I smell a little Bullshit

[@artnc4139]

It would only be dicey if both trains were too long for the siding. There is a way to resolve that called a "saw-by", but PTC probably doesn't know how to do that

[@AgentSpockAgentSpock]

When is the next layout update?

[@HuntGamingProductions]

life tip get a otterbox

[@A_10_PaAng_111]

I was gonna say that also XD lol

[@TriStateRailfan]

Hunt Gaming/Productions nope. Lifeproof is better. u can drop it in a puddle and dry it off. but don't drop it in a pool xD

[@ronselliers6951]

Make that an otter box and a scanner. Bet that dispatcher was fit to be tied!

[@nasanierulastname2997]

Hunt Gaming/Productions Not being in a rush is ideal though.

[@ibizenco]

You've got some mighty, mean looking train locomotives in the U.S.

[@Icebaron2012]

i know exactly where that is..thats Fremont Rec center in the starting shot then as it pans thats grace community church. I hail from fremont..was wondering what all the commotion was that day...3 trains meet at the bottleneck of smith rd near 198.

[@bunnywinkles6424]

How have I never noticed the double track section there??

[@Livinginohio25]

Nice video & catches!! I like those WLE SD40-2's, I think they should add more sidings along that line.

[@NS8010]

+Union Pacific 1982 Thanks! They are sharp! This line rarely sees WB movements like the WLE train and the next siding up the line about 10mi or less is 10,000ft long. More than enough. So, there are usually no problems.

[@oregonrailphotography5687]

Great video! Love your channel!

[@railrhino585]

Hey NW Ohio Trains. I am a railfan in Ohio too. What part of Ohio do you film at? I film in northern Ohio around Cleveland! Maybe we will bump into each other somewhere.

[@sonnydean3187]

I hate to say it, but this is what happens when a train supervisor slips up. You can't have two trains staring at each other's noses.

[@alm7707]

You were right.. lots of action here.

[@alejandrayalanbowman367]

What a way to run a railroad. Good job they aren't trying to run 36 trains an hour in both directions.

[@madkirk7431]

They once shoved 5 trains onto 4 tracks... The trains all went boom

[@desertfoxx1823]

Ooops! That was a hella cool catch dude. Bet you don't see that happen alot. Sucks bout your phone bro.

[@christopherdibble5872]

The engineers don't wave from the trains anymore, not like they did back in 1954.

[@shardnard72]

Nice video, great catch!

[@videobruceb8879]

Actually it's single track with a controlled siding.

[@jackdolly637]

Love your intro

[@egapnala65]

I just love the fact that U.S trains still have that romantic Steam days ethos about them. Makes our U.K ones seem bland and merely functional by comparison.

[@rockoutmj666]

life tip: don't be clumsy while in a rush

[@MrBlue-ib7oi]

+projectBOOM - life tip: go fuck yourself hard!

[@MrBlue-ib7oi]

+twink - life tip: fuck off!

[@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606]

Nice video, always nice to catch UP power on NS trains, I also subbed to you

[@ageckomiller]

life tip, don't drop your phone.

[@MrBlue-ib7oi]

+adam - life tip, fuck yourself!

[@ageckomiller]

Justin Case Nice. Maybe you should take your own advice.

[@MrBlue-ib7oi]

+adam miller - i do whenever i get free time. have you tried it yet? you'll feel better.

[@dannyhaley7610]

ok apparently there must have been a communication problem here.right?

[@tractorsmachinesro1405]

Great rail therapy...I like IT!!!!

[@towcat]

Quality Intro. I can agree whole heartedly on that one.

[@LouisianaRailProductions]

Awesome stuff! Sorry about your phone lol

[@NS8010]

+KCStrainiac LMAO yeah... Thanks!

[@mikeday62]

UP5555 is an AC4400CW

[@michaeleaton9296]

Thats why i always get a phone case with screen protection and always keep it on my phone that way screen doesnt shatters when i drop it

[@madkirk7431]

three trains, two tracks, will anything be totaled? TUNE IN AND FIND OUT ON THREE VS TWO

[@crackerjack4833]

lemme just see if i can squeeze by on the right here....

[@theoldeststeelisreal6734]

awesome intro!!

[@stephenpowell5912]

Thats what i love about the States their Railroad Networks and Companies and Their Monster Trains ❤

[@easyamp123]

It's the 4/5th UP, nice catch

[@kevinrichards3288]

Wow 2 trains on the same track facing each other, you don't see that everyday.

[@eligebrown8998]

You go ahead, you go ahead. No you go first. NOO, YOU GO FIRST

[@WhiteRiverRails]

Wow epic catch!

[@NS8010]

Thanks!!

[@ashleyroachclip1]

in the words of the great basketball coach John Wooden " be quick but don't hurry "

[@seanwatts8342]

So...you ran so fast your phone broke?

[@KKEM641]

Good catch, too bad they did not get to do a saw tooth pass, that would have been a sight too see.

[@littleblitz8239]

Someone miss a signal?

[@TimWhiteRailProductions]

Nice Job on UP5555 I like same number Units

[@clayscott8363]

That was a very good life tip honestly

[@waynealan2226]

This is certainly a freight line and not a passenger line.

[@redrock717]

Wayne Alan almost the same senerio Casey jones was killed in. This is what they call sawing threw.

[@waynealan2226]

Yep sure is. It's been a long long time since I've heard that phrase, and you're right.

[@redrock717]

Wayne Alan I actually learned the term from listening to sim web(Casey jones fireman that jumped) interview lol my dad was also a 39 year locomotive engineer.

[@waynealan2226]

Been years since I retired so been away from the lingo. Was in the Transportation industry for 37 year, 17 in Rail.

[@napoleonbonaparte6037]

How the hell did this happen. Two trains on the same track

[@Jason-c1b3r]

I wish I could've listened to the conversation on the airwaves for that situation

[@dannyhaley7610]

ok apparently there was some sort of misscommunication with the dispatcher.

[@oregonwesternrailroadprodu5239]

Oh that first part ik way to well same thing happend to me

[@brilliantman79]

Great job!

[@feet1215]

somebody got called into the bosses office

[@ianclarkp4thetransformersf753]

Union Pacific:what the heck!?😡

[@curtnicholson7771]

The UP quad 5555

[@Thej611]

Dang, he literally must have been about 2 or 3 car lengths too long

[@tommyhaynes521]

The WLE has a great logo

[@mkmcclure]

Preview of coming CSX attractions with EHH ruining, er running the show: single-track,. slow orders, centralized dispatching all to feed more cash to Mr. Harrison.

[@egapnala65]

North going Zax meets south going Zax.

[@santafe402]

Alan Page ah yes, the sneetches

[@eottoe2001]

UP 5555 has been all over the place.

[@eottoe2001]

Easy to remember and ID, I guess.

[@geezer652]

Nothing special about UP5555. It's UP6666 you've got to watch out for. ;

[@shawnpowell5876]

My question is how could something get messed up so bad? This could've been a catastrophic accident to say the least. And I hope that whoever was the dispatcher had to be looking for another job. Thanks for sharing your videos and I'm viewing this from the 1st state of Delaware.

[@CenturyOakWindStar]

Life tip, get a better protective cover and gorilla glass.

[@가나다라-d6o]

CenturyOakWindStar 34

[@MrBlue-ib7oi]

+Century - life tip, go fuck yourself

[@spacecookie5730]

+Justin Case: life tip: go away!

[@MrBlue-ib7oi]

+space - uh, i did...for a month. you're a little late to the party fuck face!

[@spacecookie5730]

Justin Case get lost ya stupid troll

[@bbybby91]

I shattered my iPhone screen by dropping it on ballast, shit happens.

[@oregonrailphotography5687]

In my town once we had 3 Trains 1 track!!!

[@acethepone]

Trains For Life • how did they resolve that one?

[@tommyhaynes521]

Holy Toledo

[@HappyQuailsLC]

You could justify using a really well protecting case.