3 ZAPDOS in 1 GAME is this the FUTURE of POKEMON UNITE?!

3 ZAPDOS in 1 GAME is this the FUTURE of POKEMON UNITE 2?!
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[@CrisHeroes]

would you prefer this version?

[@Blusmj]

We’ve been playing the same exact barebones game with no variance in global for 2 years. Anything new is a total upgrade and the people developing this seem to actually want to make make use of the potential the game has. Unlike the shmooks at global. Every season is the same nothing of value changes. Emblems are worthless, items never change, battle items never change, maps never change. All they do is add new mons (which the rate has slowed 20x over) and weak ass patches and call it a day. All you do is play ranked because that is all you *can* do, standards are bots, quick matches are lame (the only good one is boss rush and fury is amusing in short bursts), so the only mode with any value is ranked and the rewards there are garbage too. I could go on and on, like what does the global team even do? And I didn’t even talk about matchmaking. CN version has actual mechanic changes, level shifts, actually experimenting with new modes and layouts, builds, move upgrades that lead to even more unique gameplay styles, more items, lobby, amusing casual game modes and appeal, and that’s off the top of my head. Who knows if everything they add will be good, but unlike global they are willing to change and experiment from what I’ve seen and that’s good enough for me.

[@rycera]

Do you?

[@lolgamer09183]

I want somethings and some not

[@NajrulIslam-zl1wm]

No

[@10jhandeswayamashok96]

No

[@judithmarie9375]

7:38 that jump board was OP. Look at that Wiggly

[@i_ntel]

Mf flew to the other side of the map LMAO

[@Itthew]

Mimikyu : why can u fly as far as me .

[@arnoldalaniz7806]

1:24 a jump pad is spawned above Rotom. Wonder where it takes you as well?

[@christianjaymatas875]

​@@arnoldalaniz7806 it takes you all the way to the opposite side of the map. Top to bot, bot to top.

[@arnoldalaniz7806]

@@christianjaymatas875 that’s interesting. Thank you too for the reply .

[@Belesprit656]

I would love this (not sure if they'll add it though)

[@avianjones4886]

I hope they move this version to us. I have always felt it should be way more chaotic. Our version is so predictable

[@TheKsh]

12:11 that's alot of range for blastoise hydropump

[@matheus_ooliv]

I noticed that too.

[@rileyomadadhain2173]

I would love this new version, there's so much less waiting around.

[@Edujs23]

I would like If they kept Theya the way It is, but add this as reworked remoat

[@enteiraikou5845]

That rerouting Rollout Wigglytuff caught me off guard!! I was like, What wall did she hit to get that angle?? 😂

[@guccisgooch9661]

Need somethin like that but for Garchomp dig tbh. I think it used to be like that in the first beta

[@YPlayzYT]

@@guccisgooch9661I agree. I feel like Dig Garchomp should be exactly like Talonflame fly just underground ofc

[@guccisgooch9661]

@@YPlayzYT 100% ground build jus needs a big ass rework. Sucks cuz chomp is my fav n wanna play somethin other than dragon build. Def have had some fun w the ground build tho😂

[@zenithez9074]

this feels like an entirely different game i feel like if they were to integrate it into the normal version of unite they would have to have it as a complete seperate gamemode or quick battle if they got rid of the one that alr exists many would be extremely mad.

[@水-龙]

even if they did add this version, they wouldn’t make it permanent to play like full fury and other game modes

[@OmegaOne609]

the china version basically endorsing back capping which is a huge downgrade imo, cuz we would be incentivizing trolls a lot more, tho the mon reworks could be fun if implimented

[@gior987]

​@@OmegaOne609True, but it also looks harder in this mode to backcap

[@tichieljuspian3458]

Current Unite mode can become the new quickplay, this version of Unite seems far superior to current Unite. No reason to play Unite currently as it is, but many people I know want to play this Chinese version. Maybe will use VPN

[@samuelortiz1548]

This mode looks horrible. I wouldn't play it.

[@Oosjhteuikmm]

Looks like you won't even need exp share... If everything evolves after 1 minute

[@bautea]

There’s no exp share. Cookie specs and weight were also deleted.

[@BattleBrotherCasten]

This is one of the pitfalls heroes of the storm fell into...that is not the game to follow-they need to be looking at League of legends for inspiration. The difference in leveling is what makes hype moments..this would be bad for the game.

[@toasteroven6761]

@@BattleBrotherCasten Yeah and trying to make Unite the TikTok of MOBAs is a terrible idea for society.

[@tichieljuspian3458]

@@BattleBrotherCasten Unite currently gives a global 20% exp buff if the enemy team is 1 level behind, and 30% exp buff if the enemy team is 2 levels behind. Pokemon Unite's comeback mechanics are nonsense and not good for competitive/lasting play. As players improve in skill they like Unite less and less because it doesn't reward good play or kills nearly as much as LoL. There's no gold to be gained from killing enemy players in Unite, the death timers are very short early game, and the Red/Blue buffs give more Exp than killing another player. Unite's base mechanics are nonsense. At the very least, this Chinese version of Unite makes it so an entire match doesn't revolve around last hitting the big green snake last a single time. There are many chances to push/score to get towards 500 pts.

[@matheus_ooliv]

​@@tichieljuspian3458I absolutely hate the lucky mechanics of Rayquaza.

[@setk1189]

While probably not perfect, this version looks much more fun and active than the current game which sometimes feels really counterintuitive with things like breaking goals and scoring

[@dottleluce]

I prefer global version for multiple reasons: - cn version doesnt have early, mid, and late game mons. Some prefer playing early game like sylv. Others prefer playing late like tyranitar. Good team comps are usually a balance of both. This leaves less strategy in draft and options based on playstyle. Ofc this doesnt excuse timi from not balancing some mons like eevelutions and prenerf tyranitar raid god. - similarly the game is too fast paced. Non stop fighting. Global has highs and lows which make it a brawl game but ewually a mind game. Early game is for levelling up, winning lanes. Mid game is for rotating to objectives and finding opportunity to get to a lead. Late game is about protecting your lead or turning the tides eg with ray. In cn it looks like just fighting: - cn version is too brawly. Its mostly burst and dive with occasional ambush and last hitting. Theres less importance of other moba concepts like poke, kite, backcap, score comp, roam, vision (like with sableye), etc. it leaves less strategy and just tactics. Among others. But these three are top of mind. To each their own i guess

[@Fikolyte]

I feel like the old version of exp rates/levelling up is better but I’d much prefer First to 500 rather than waiting for Ray/Zap to see if you actually win the game or not.

[@i_ntel]

True you won’t always win just cuz u got ray (sincerely someone that steals it and still loses cuz i can’t score and my whole team dies lol)

[@brvndxnl]

I'm also not a fan of the coinflip mechanics of the current version. Though the more I think about it, the harder it would be to get used to that new win condition.

[@kiIIakababs_]

first to 500 would dumb down the game quite a lot. It would just be scoreplay comps and a ramp up on backcapping.

[@brvndxnl]

@@kiIIakababs_ That would likely be the case in solo q but hopefully they set up some barriers to make that harder.

[@noelnelsontimbal348]

Now it looks closer to a normal MOBA game(Not that it's a bad thing). A timer that's counting up instead of down and a clearer end goal of 500 points.

[@BattleBrotherCasten]

Needs to be more league of legends, less heroes of the storm

[@toasteroven6761]

​@@BattleBrotherCasten Also it's STILL missing BASIC things like KD tracking (in this case KO/Down tracking) or KO streak tracking (KOs without going down yourself), so still not much incentive for randos to not int, feed, or make room temp IQ plays.

[@uwillnevernoewhoiam]

What's the point of even evolving in this mode then? You literally are fully evolved by 2 mins. Just make them fully evolved at the beginning of the game

[@hobocat_]

This is a Fluffy Tail gamers dream

[@Forgotten_noob8]

Exactly what I was thinking and also for goppa mains

[@Im_Arceus]

Gardevior at 5? I do not prefer this version, original pacing is better imo.

[@Oosjhteuikmm]

Agreed

[@Trinity_Focalors]

It is the Beta, so they might do some rework stuff to improve Unite 2.0

[@Ueiwbwowheoeho]

Bro it'll be a different game mode.

[@iliketurtles9719]

In every other mobile moba u get ultimate at level 4 this is nothing new i think early game is just little faster rest is quite good

[@Oosjhteuikmm]

@@iliketurtles9719 yeah but they don't usually have evolution like Pokémon do. Why add two and three stage Pokémon with different abilities and stats if you only going to play last stage for 90% of the match

[@NovaPsi371]

It's a lot faster and busier than current, maybe too much. I like the slower pace of evolving but if able to get full moveset so early, is there a point to the evolution stages? Might be too many objectives on the field at the same time but i like the individual buffs the regis give. zapdos feels too tanky but the rotoms give great options so theres some strategy to be had, it did feel a bit sloggy after the second zap

[@JayVolv]

Not a fan, tbh, but having early middle objectives (like that Dreadnaw) and ending the game after a certain amount scored are good changes.

[@Ueiwbwowheoeho]

If they do add it it'll probably just be another game mode. Nothing to complain about.

[@JayVolv]

​@@Ueiwbwowheoeho I wish they change ranked soon, tbh. It doesn't even need to be a big change, but the game feels stale right now.

[@daphenomenalz4100]

They should make it as a second ranked ladder, replacing the current completely would be bad for the playerbase, esp the bad players xD, like draft did

[@moymoyafanay1721]

I like this point system more than the normal one we got, 10 minute max is kinda boring. Rollout skill change for wigglytuff is 🔥🔥, wish they changed garchomp dig like that as well or like talonflame fly. Other than that, global is beter imo

[@gior987]

Wait isn't Talonflame's fly already like that? But garchomp's dig rework would be sooo good

[@moymoyafanay1721]

@@gior987 yeah..i mean reworking it to look like talon fly

[@itsMrNiceGuy]

I would prefer having both. Other mobas have more than 1 perm game mode.

[@Lizombiez]

Thing is, could this be another one in ranked like draft. Or will this just be a gamemode. Thats if we even get this sort of mode in global unite.

[@Ueiwbwowheoeho]

​@@LizombiezIt will obviously be a game mode if it is added 😂😂.

[@zulukun]

Like I think this version looks fun? But it looks a bit too chaotic somehow. I wouldn't mind the change in game structure, to make the objective first-to-500, but I like the pace of our existing game quite a lot. Maybe that's just me

[@newWinkZ98]

how about 2 ways to win either 500 points or greater points than enemy at 10 mins 😂😂😂

[@uli6898]

i like how rollout wiggly doesnt looks like cringe trolling build

[@IthquaisChibi]

The buff we need for wiggly on global

[@thatonebadpotato]

Very chaotic . And most of our teammates come with only 2 brain cells. Thats too much

[@chie6593]

This looks like Quick Match stretched into a 15 min game. Also, let's not forget this is what a coordinated pro team is supposed to look like. I don't think people will understand how to play the game with random people if it were to come to the global game.

[@iliketurtles9719]

Gobal version will stay same they will focus on china exclusively for a long time and milk global version till it makes profit and end it

[@youngy3156]

Where did the jump pad Chuck wiggly at 7.40? 😂

[@playharderscrub]

na this version seems so much better, the fact u getting zap isn't a insta win is already a w for me

[@BENHUR.]

11:47 wtf that's broken.

[@tkbreen1381]

Wait why did the charizard die wtf

[@SA5Unite]

Zoroark last hit it​@@tkbreen1381

[@Lucarecus]

​@@tkbreen1381it felt like an after effect of slowbro unite

[@kn5412]

I saw that too!! it was a battle item. its a spiky shield that reflects damage as true damage 😮

[@legit_black182]

Looks like bottom goals are 80 and top goals are 60. That's interesting. I would for sure try this one out.

[@btoosmaged4882]

The only two things i don't like is the non existence of pre evolutions and the amount of rotoms spawning every few seconds other than that this looks much better than what we have and as you said feel more like a MOBA

[@matheus_ooliv]

The amount of pressure in this seems to punish uncoordinated teams more, so you can end a match before ten minutes too.

[@karnetik]

this game type would be cool with a new map

[@aramow]

This game looks like a much needed evolution of what we are currently playing

[@BattleBrotherCasten]

This is one of the pitfalls heroes of the storm fell into...that is not the game to follow-they need to be looking at League of legends for inspiration. The difference in leveling is what makes hype moments..this would be bad for the game.

[@frostyfoxer3855]

Starting at 4:15 mark if you look closely Rotom didn't add any points to the goal zone And Top goal zone was 60 HP and Bottom was 80 HP, at least in the 1st tier

[@Zathul4198]

Ehh, not a fan of the INSANE exp increase. If we're hitting final evos 1 minute into a 10-15+ min match, then why even bother having the pre-evos or move progression in the first place? It just doesn't matter. Also I think a Zapdos every 15 seconds is ridiculous. This just looks like a quickplay match on cocaine. I think this has elements our version sorely needs, but on China's version the pendulum swung entirely too far in the other direction.

[@STRIKER-94]

Was that wigglytuff controlling rollout with joystick💙❤️💙

[@Erinyes]

Definitely more interested in a faster pace unite.

[@toasteroven6761]

Basic things like K/D tracking and KO streaks when Timi??? Incentivize good play Timi, it starts with the basics, then people might play AND stay.

[@jaysayspidey4013]

This would be pretty cool as an alternative Ranked or Casual Match. I would definitely play it!

[@SamPlaysBlackOps]

This looks like it has some cool stuff, but this is waaaay different. I like laying and ganks and needing to evolve and stuff. This is to..idk easy? Simple? Idk theres def exciting stuff in here though.

[@GabrielGonzalez-mn9fz]

Just focus on ranked matches that’s where the money is at that’s why everyone plays cause it’s fun competition and you can win money if your good. This version is stupid

[@asphaltburner7266]

Tbh the team players we get in soloq with them this gamemode will be total mess. It looks good only when theres a coordinated team

[@Rock_hard73]

Love this we can just fight to have fun at starting you are the GOAT f9r getting this for us Cris ❤

[@rycera]

I shall re retire

[@dhavalahir1345]

Much better and fun but half of over team mate always offline so it may be difficult 😂😂

[@medhrajeshirke4584]

They just made ranked match or standard matches same as quick match where objective spawn every fast

[@sergiomr2263]

This looks terrible. It feel like a cheap knock-off game, from the visuals to the gameplay, like seriously, this doesnt look like a real game an actual studio would put out but more like a bootleg game made by some random dude using stolen assets. Unite needs changes and something to revitalize it, but this is not it. Hope this version doesnt leave China TBH.

[@sergiomr2263]

Also one more thing, but I cant see this game working on a competitive level. There is just too much shit going on all the time, stuff spawning non-stop and team fights left and right. I just cant see a regular audience not getting overwhelmed really quick, specially new viewers checking the game for the first time. There also the thing Cris said about stalling games since there is no time limit.

[@magu2372]

It's a much better what the heck?

[@skqouil]

This game feels so alive, so much is happening!

[@gudrunlourinho4688]

It's from china. Games in china (for better and mostly) don't leave china.

[@toasteroven6761]

Despite all the changes (some good some bad [leveling system, almost constant TikTok level pacing, etc]), it's STILL missing BASIC things like K/D tracking (in this case KO/Down tracking) or KO streak tracking (KOs without going down yourself), so still not much incentive for randos to not int, feed, or make room temp IQ plays.

[@zabdielp58]

I lost it when I saw a flying charmeleon 😂😂

[@eseruwu]

I would love to play this version. I hope they will bring some things to the rest of the world. And many I would adore the Wigglytuff. My by far most played Mon and these would be great buffs to it's toolkit 😍

[@playharderscrub]

lowkey give me this version i need something new, ANYTHING AT THIS POINT

[@CuppaGi]

Why are they even making 2 versions? Just make one global version.

[@Keegan006]

Did they nerf zard fire blast by taking away the mobility ???? WTF WHY DO THEY KEEP NERFING HIM This dosnent look good at all it just looks worst Edit: and zard is no longer in the air after his unite??? Why do they keep nerfing him ????

[@Zarox8811]

I’d rather have “first to 500” or instead of Ray/Zap. However, one thing that I like about Unite over other MOBAs is that each game is only 10 minutes. It’s not fun when a match lasts too long (the reason why LoL bored me, bc 40+ min matches are not fun anymore). If the devs implement this as a new game mode that’s open at all times (Ranked Score mode vs Ranked Normal mode), then I think this would definitely attract more players and be more appealing to those who prefer a more traditional MOBA set up.

[@sri_harsha_dv]

In this version, some objectives are teamwide buffs like drednaw and others like regis are solo buffs (player that KOs the obj I presume) is interesting. Not a big fan of skipping evolutions, I would much rather have loosened level gating rather than skipping. Also at the start, the level differences are questionable, slowbro at lvl 4, kirlia at lvl 4, zorua at lvl 3 and dreepy at lvl 1, like what is happening? I think they have to slowdown the obj timers little bit. I like the fast paced battles but I think this doesn't cater the "casual" playerbase. Global version can benefit from some of these changes.

[@akatsubaki2661]

TLDR: I don’t like it. This version is too much when it comes to everything going on and takes away what makes pokemon unite special, the time limit. My background: played unite because of the moba format of having a fixed time limit. Came from league, played for 5 years, 6 years clean. Been playing since the beginning, took a few breaks because of life (i’m not a student anymore haha), comes back every now and then to enjoy new pokemon. Can easily climb to master consistently whenever i return, but i don’t grind to reach high masters. This is just to say that i have a fair grasp of how the game is played and the strategies involved. This looks like it’s doing too much for too little. I’d say just balance the current game right and move around timers for spawns for all i care. Just don’t give us this clusterfuck of nothing, it’s so unstructured. This looks more like a battle royale than a moba game. Basically, there’s no early, mid and late game. With too much going on in the map, strategies are thrown out of the window, just kill something when there’s something. As it stands, this would be too tiring to play not because of strategy but because of overloading the player with things to do and having no breathing room to even think about what to do next, just look at the map and go to what spawns. For a “sort of a pro” though, the way they fixed the coin flip stakes of the current global game is good in a way. This version of replacing the timer with a max score takes away the one thing good about this game - the damn timer. The strategy of fights in unite is playing around the timer and planning your rotations based on the map state and team performance; all while trying to score as much as possible (overcapping). Plus 10 to 15 minutes is a healthy break, at least for me. Conclusion: me no like this. If this is your thing though, that’s great. Just sharing my opinion.

[@UltimateRaven]

If we look at Charizard in this version, instead of just basic attacking after unite, moves can actually be actually used in exchange for getting CC’d. Does anyone think it’s a nice buff? I feel like it could change his unite move play style. I don’t know whether it’s for better or for worse.

[@marinomele4575]

It's just different, not better. I prefer the 10 mins limit way more, also this won't solve the main issue... Clueless people queued with you. They'll be even more dazed by all these on-the-fly deicsions.

[@ElCornpop]

It looks interesting but with teammates that don't show up to objectives and the quick leveling up, u might lose the game even faster than normal. I don't understand why Timi made such a different game even reworking moves. I liked the objectives spawning constantly. Seems like it would encourage team fights but who knows with the state of the game. Mixed bag for me.

[@markdavidson1498]

This makes me mad bc they could’ve put the time, effort, and resources for the regular game :/ like when is this out? Am I gonna have to put up with the dogshit matchmaking and ranked mode of OG unite for another year!??

[@JhoTerra]

I like the idea of minimizing the need to spend half the game levelling up. There should be some sort of progression and scaling, but too much of the game is spent rotating around maximizing XP gains to avoid getting snowballed. That said, there may be *too many* objectives here. It leaves very little room or incentive for organic team plays.

[@weeklykillah]

this is some weird combo of unite and browl stars. there is no strategy just the whole team running around. Lanes don't exist and with all that you don't need the roles. OP mons such as miradon, mewtwo, ttar etc would dominate the game even more. Overall don't see this mode/version making it big, especially not on global level and competitive level

[@cuttululu]

with this level scaling late game pokemon would be broken, like it would be a t-tar, gyarados, dragonite meta, the eevees would really fall off (maybe only sylveon and umbreon would really be viable) and speedsters or pokemon who their whole niche is level up fast to snowball the enemy team would fall off, i personally like the current game mode more

[@TheKsh]

players can't even play the current global version, they don't have enough brain for this. This is probably gonna be better for tournaments, dunno how the normal matches would go

[@vishnum.s0349]

If they do something with the map i may accept ...the map looks like shit...something more grassy like the thiea sky ruins will be more welcoming❤

[@FraaXGamer]

I mean, of Timi wants China to compete in worlds, then global has to become this or the chinese version has to become what the global version is, and judging by how long they have been developing the chinese version, its far more likely that global turns into this.

[@unamusedheavy1885]

Ray/Zap no longer being an X factor, early game much less cursed, and much more to do rather than sit on the base, where do I sign up.

[@Hugo-yz1vb]

So Wigglytuff's Rollout in China is just Sonic the Hedgehog's Spindash, huh?

[@actpianocover6329]

5:55 wait, gardevoir uses the air ballon, and then eject buttoned. 2 battle items? 7:35 SCAN??

[@xENDEMONIADOx]

It looks fun but I think the evos are happening too fast and also it looks impossible to make a comeback if you are losing but that may be just the purple team being way better than orange.

[@rossnsuchthangs]

Am I the only one who thinks this looks like an ADHD mess? There is way too much for idiot teammates to do. None of it would be useful.

[@a_e5872]

1:10 Charmeleon: Air Balloon Technique (proceeds to fly)

[@briyan475]

Evolutions are a bit too early, should have been somewhere in the middle. Also, has the purple side had the upper hand the whole game? They kept pushing and the orange team seemed to have no room to breathe or counter.

[@hachiman205]

this is way better, makes game so much more active and enaging instead of people just sitting back and farming all game

[@iliketurtles9719]

I like this version more ... It has more similarities with moba genre than global version no wonder they went with this version in china which is already a big moba market Well i will stick with hok and mobile legends till then

[@DecidueyeSolos]

YapKingHeroes

[@CheemsVinh]

i hate the 500 points limit, hope they dont this to global version i dont want to meet any more backcappers in my game🙏

[@unknownbrother8195]

Seeing this, i quit playing unite until Timi make the same version for global market 😡

[@serpentine8229]

I much rather perfer the first team to 500 points wins rather than Ray/Zap dictating the last two minutes

[@Eightense]

If they add just a tiny gap between the objectives i would love to have this as main gamemode for us

[@voidninja9134]

Caos version of Pokemon unite...worthy for rank modes in global

[@Fenriot]

i prefer this kind of gameplay than a broken moba. at least it feels like a real 5v5 battle, also need some ajustment

[@fen_u9401]

this feels like a fever dream gotta be honest... this kinda feels wrong☠️

[@JorgeGonzalezC10]

too much is going on. We can't even group for a Regi, let alone all of this rotoms and mini regis, etc

[@bimbimga]

Yeah if your team is bad (matchmaking) You gonna lose faster

[@kirito4918]

I am not interested but I like to try

[@jgsia9250]

Love your content! Also, I can help if you need an account to login Bilibili

[@do0rkn0b]

Unite needs a redo but I'm not sure making it even more casual is helping.

[@matheus_ooliv]

I kind of like how fast it is as I hate the farming thing. You have more things to worry now.

[@matheus_ooliv]

I want to see the changes in Lapras and Azumarill so badly.

[@matheus_ooliv]

So you can also end a match before 10 minutes, right?

[@salmoncashew1785]

This looks so much more fun

[@KingCrypn]

I don't like it. They can't even make a balanced pokemon 😭😭

[@eduardomatsushita891]

Is there anything that lead us to believe well be having this version in the future?

[@7moodx97]

This feels hectic but the farm my man you dont need to steal it from the other team

[@thomaswilliams9582]

This version seems like an absolute nightmare for solo queue

[@kfiercescene]

I dont like the early evols myself unite alrdy feels like a fast paced game