30. Fly Fishing Easy Washing Line Leader Set Up With No Droppers

[@CONEHEADDK]

After years of YT not finding !any" good fly fishing videos for me, they have started not long ago. This one was pretty interesting, and even though I probably never will end up using this, it was worth my time. One question though - have you done any strength tests on this set-up.?

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

On my local river the fish run to about an average of 1kg, I use 4lb line, but I've never had two fish on at the same time to test it. Best used with dry flies to give the fish a selection and then find out which one it likes.

[@MOOREK031]

Tried this yesterday at raygill on a 10lb leader and didnt get a single tangle. Within a couple of casts I hooked into a 15lb rainbow. So satisfying to try a new method and to have success with it. I may never catch a fish like that again but its all thanks to you MD!

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

@@MOOREK031 excellent well done, regards Mick

[@jimking7400]

Searched for ages to find how to tie a washing line. Found it here! Clearly explained. Thanks 👏

[@erickjohnston2633]

Love this setup, have been looking for a washing line setup without droppers!

[@thefella131]

Cheers for sharing this. 👍

[@Pikeandslippers]

I will definitely be trying this on my local. Thanks.

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Please do! Regards MD

[@johnfranklin177]

Fantastic Video again, really appreciate the clarity and honesty in all the vids you do

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Cheers John, been out on the water today and meet a nice lad who said the same, so I've put him in the next video, which comes out tomorrow. Regards MD

[@Loyalist-ul6qm]

Hi mate I'm new to fly fishing and every little bit of info helps so thank you and tightlines all the best fae Scotland.

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Am no expert, but i will give you what ever i can, and if any of the flies you see in any of the videos you want to try out give me shout [e-mail] and i will put a pack together (FREE) to get you hooking trout Anything to help. Regards MD

[@Loyalist-ul6qm]

@@mdflyfishinguk5220 I have some lures but nothing else my fly line is a full sink.

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

If you mainly fish lures then I will put some together, if you ever get to use a floating line I will put some buzzers together for under a bung, some dries and pulling flies. I will sort it out this weekend. Let's get you catching trout Regards MD

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Hi send me your address via [e-mail] Regards MD

[@stephenfraser6103]

MD thanks for sharing this setup and knot. I’m going to try it this weekend. Tell me this have you noticed less or more hook ups compared to dropper setups? I’m going to try this with midge sink tip with a floating pinpoint fly

[@stephenfraser6103]

Only recommendation I’d add is bit of moisture on the knot before setting tight to reduce heat and friction🔥

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Hi Stephen Its sometimes better for catching in sallow rivers, but the hook ups are the same. In fact am using this method on a water this week with buzzers as i don't want to get too many tangles and the fish are very close to the surface and as long as the leader is just under the surface that will be ok for me. Thanks For watching Regards MD

[@petermitchell421]

Greatly explained film so I’m going to make up some leaders. Can you suggest the best sinking leader material to use? Thanks

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

As long as you degrease the leader, the flies should take the line below the surface. I use Eagle Tex, This method I also use with a team of dry flies in shallow water.

[@waynesmith4589]

This is a great method of tying droppers, I even use this on venues where only 1 fly is allowed 😳😳😳😳, I cut the hook off a sparkly blob just leaving the eye and the sparkly bits, this now becomes a sparkling attractor with no hook, use this in conjunction with a damsel or snake 7-9ft away on the point and it’s deadly. You’re only using 1 fly that can catch anything.

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

will try that cheers Regards MD

[@martinlewis1015]

I just use small rings, then can have short dropper or longer (too long you get tangle issue) but I can change line length to point. I have caught 2 fish at Bewl on same line and netted both

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Thanks for sharing, Regards MD

[@JimReihill]

Can I ask the name of the leader line you said was .25 but 16lb as I cannot find a decent thin leader . Thank you for the video, very helpful

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

I use this stuff infact video 173 i puwww.ebay.co.uk/itm/271334868462?hash=item3f2cd185ee:g:UEIAAOSwLnlWpUsW&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAABAF4jgwrIb1iHTIqJeB8qq8GRCufgb%2B%2B%2FSKjlt2Vzif28PPmcWGuCJW2OLKtmEELPClW%2FM%2FB6OwfKFzDg3cuOhaQHWcS%2Fp74qQZG%2FR6jKLw7UGTDAzbwXK%2FuPnzfKJqbqsX9HfzbYVVYjdt6Y7dGhBRfrO5X4SzQ0EESaSWHzyeZzxjf7T728TTHWjQHRaUuc2%2FQBfflQEeOQyd505IG%2BRZGtF9fDsW1bXdlUuL%2FZgxYH%2FHrFubvrg3s5A2QX5i8vGwt2opJhN82pKoXD45a9W4zN%2B%2FdI8Kk2ku7axxi6SGaCoodogphnVFCBZjXZ0OjlL5y7nqZo%2BY47iWYXLWkHHXw%3D%7Ctkp%3ABk9SR8CZnaeeYgt 4ft on the end to the bibio fly. 4.7kg = 11lb you can get stronger , but this is 0.16mm

[@hownowbrowntrouttasmania7389]

Great, I think were only aloud to have 2 flys on in Tasmania.?? ill have to check. You have caught some great fish.:)

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

That could be the case, at some waters here I can only have 2 flies attached and then they have to be no bigger than a size 12.

[@janphillips1093]

Thanks Easy to cast but would you recommend this style of dropper set up for comorants?

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Hi Jan, for comorants I use the style featured in Video 22. Thanks for watching Regards MD

[@gazjones871]

Hi awsome rug would this method be ok for other applications like lure straight through nymphing

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Hi Gaz see Video 22 on how to rig lures or small fry. It works great for me.

[@clivelangham435]

This is really interesting. I can see how it would avoid tangles. Is there any difference in catch rate if you compare this method against standard droppers? I guess that a standard dropper would have the advantage of being able to move about more in the water and look more natural. Could you comment on that, please? Thanks for video. Just subscribed.

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Hello, It is the way to stop tangles and your leader getting messed up, but its best used on a rippled water with buzzers or fished on a river with a few dry flies. The catch rate on stillwaters I can not comment on, but on my local river it is very good with mixed dry flies and then after a few takes it narrows down which dry to use if you want to just fish a single on the point.

[@picking11111]

Sounds ideal for me. Please could you tell me what make leader

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Simple 5lb leader for the river, ghost is a good make. Thanks for the comment and watching Regards MD

[@Welshwolf62]

Hi MD I fish still waters would this method work on fish feeding in the top layers on a chopy day.

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Hi Cider Man, no reason why not as long as you have a good leader, might be a problem if 2 good fish take at the same time, used this method on rivers with spiders in shallow water 2ft etc. but then again at some stillwaters I fish 2 apps bloodworm worms at once, one at 6ft and then tie off the hook shank of the first fly to the eye of the point fly at 12ft. strange but it works and I also fish a team of cormorants like that on an intermediate line. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJbOenlqr5ybkK8

[@gazjones871]

Hi mate You mentioned on one of your videos that youd found a high strength low diameter tippet Could you let me know the brand please

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Hi I've used Eagle Tex fluorocarbon, which goes down to 5kg at a dia of 0.18mm, which is still near 11lb, Normal fluo line is 8lb and the dia is .026mm. Its hard to get hold of in the UK you will have to shop around, Regards MD

[@harryhudson5149]

Hi great method but if you want to change flies do you have to take the leader from the fly line?

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Hi I make up a number of these leaders set ups with different buzzers or dries beforehand and add the required leader when required if am only using one rod. But if you don't have any other leader options then yes you would need to remove the leader. I will fish 2 floating lines 1 this method and the second being a single fly set up for apps, fry, sedges & eggs etc.

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

See video 42 Harry on leader storage rigs.

[@harryhudson5149]

Brilliant thanks for the explanation

[@paulhughes7079]

Could you tell me what flurocarbon you use? I have tried loads but keep getting snapped off.

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Hi Airflo Sightfree G3 & G4 8lb, Eagle Tex, which is double the strength of the G4, but same dia of 0.26 and Berkley 8lb, 6lb Regards MD

[@paulhughes7079]

@@mdflyfishinguk5220 Great, thanks

[@alexandervose7018]

Does this work for straight lining?

[@hemsjohultet]

Just one question: do you use a level 8 lb leader, i.e. not a tapered 14 ft leader?

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Yes, it would be a level leader. Sometimes down to 4lb if fishing spiders 🕷️ on a small river

[@barbcoll100]

Can you recommend a flourocarbon sinking leader thanks

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Good quality Fluorocarbon does sink, but i use Trilene, which is 100% and Airflo Sightfree G3. Regards MD

[@davidbenjamin5356]

If a fish takes a fly further down your leader does it undo the knot just as when you want to remove the fly in your video

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

No as you will be applying force from the opposite direction. Regards MD

[@drewrawcliffe5593]

I used this knot for the first time in a strong wind. Any tangles dropped out when brought out of the water.

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Its a good method for shallow water, Regards MD

[@theflyfishinginstructor6014]

Nice

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Thanks Regards MD

[@jeffnotti9932]

thanks for the rig advice ... i will try this < J

[@mdflyfishinguk5220]

Great with spiders Regards MD