30k Meme Torps & A Speed Boost - Rodney First Impressions

[@dawa3328]

Wargaming is the one responsible for creating economy in this game, and they're mad that veteran players accumulated billions of credits over the years, so now they will punish new players on every corner of the game so that those vets could feel a weak sting in their wallet.

[@luoya99]

Played since 2017 on and off. I have over a billion credits with nothing to buy and over a thousand of every flag. This garbage economy doesn't affect people like me at all, but it drives away new players. WG is fully responsible for the pathetic player count these days.

[@n2t460]

Thank you for the complaints on flag cost PQ and others. Glad it's not just me, a new player. I decided to sell em all and not rely on them lol. Those no flag notifications are annoying for me. I found em flags to make minor differences, the real game map positioning etc matter way more. Some shop service cost tier 10 forcing players to play lower tier less preferable ships just to earn credits... It no longer is a video game but an unpaid work just to be able to enjoy a bit of tier 10 fav ship. Uninstalled.

[@adamszarek3183]

Maybe new players, or with small income should have some free way to obtain flags, and older player no, maybe it is the solution.

[@n2t460]

@@adamszarek3183 I think new players like me initially didn't even know what was what. No idea what made difference or not. So giving freebies prob makes no difference to them. It's only when they learned the game (high learning curve), and got the ships etc, that it becomes an incentive to manage resources, even though they are seemingly arcade/unrealistic/hard. Game size is also very big. Shouda made it smaller and connect to mobile version - not a separate account for mobile.

[@adamszarek3183]

@@n2t460 I think about add to category new players, a lot of players, and do second category veterans. I can be based on stats, number of battles, or number of tech tree ships etc.

[@franz265]

Props to pq for making a statement on the flag pay2win change they did long time ago. Getting a impactful reward for doing great in battle was such a good feeling.

[@brianj.841]

The flags are better? Of course it costs it get them. WG is quite consistent when it comes to money-grubbing.

[@kruppstahl9562]

But it's never going to happen.

[@j_taylor]

If this game were pay-to-win, my win rate would be a lot higher.

[@franz265]

@@j_taylor What a stupid comment. Of course you cant win every battle no matter what. But if you have all the flags running all the time you will have advantages that others might not have.

[@ryanbrochu3336]

Reminds me of when WG had standard and premium consumables and you had to pay for the premiums.

[@tijger5353]

I tought they where 30km torps😂

[@MikeLowell93]

same

[@ΕυστράτιοςΤσαλίκης]

Imagine the scenes

[@RomuloCavalcanti-bt8yv]

Me too😂😂😂

[@Taooflu]

lol me too, we’re all dyslexic but a good laugh

[@nozyspy4967]

Supposedly HMS Rodney got the only battleship launched torpedo hit, on another battleship. So I guess they were giving a nod to that with the torpedo thing on this ship.

[@Neneset]

And she ran her engines at more than full power for an extended time after hearing Hood had been sunk. Rodney was not originally part of the force hunting Bismarck. She was on her way to the US for a refit. Her commander correctly guessed Bismarck's position and course and ran his ship as hard as he could to try for an intercept. That is why the slow Rodney was there with the fast KGV for the final fight. If her commander hadn't done that it would have been Bismarck vs KGV + assorted cruisers. Anyways, hence the speed boost.

[@2fat4airborne44]

regards to flags. Its not only the removal from match related incidents, they did raise the costs more and more (real money) before they got removed completely from the shop. back in the day with 10-15 bucks you got aout 110-120 signals from every type. Within that timeframe of 100+ games you earned new ones on the way. Lasting months depending on playtime/gains. Later on it was about 30 bucks(little more flags but nothing to explain the costs). Now its basically a rip off. I hope people wont buy credits to get em, cause the change rates should be illegal.

[@smolnoodle]

yes I remember buying 15 bucks package I think and it lasted a long long time. Current signal flag costs are so crazy that many f2p players cannot run those, I mean, they're barely buying a new ship after tier 7, 8. Fire duration reduction and heal flags should be like 1/10 of current prices.

[@EvoraGT430]

Try using Research Bureau points instead of hard cash.

[@2fat4airborne44]

@@smolnoodle even as a premium time player etc, you cant uphold the costs. coal and credits etc arent as easy to come by to cover running full flags. Dont know what they really want. it feels like they wanne get rid of them at a certain point to implement a even more cancerous system

[@archwaldo]

Buy signals using research points. Do the math, they cost eight times less.

[@smolnoodle]

@@archwaldo grinding RB points are very very painful if you are f2p or little spender like me

[@bohba13]

Better idea, reduce the credit costs for flags by a factor of 10.

[@Thor_Asgard_]

flags are ridiciously priced 😂

[@jdogrulez5014]

a few of the flags should just be standard on the ships by this point with how frequent/near mandatory they are such as the secondary flags, and the heal flags. I would say the speed flags too but I get why not for "historical" reasons. game was more fun when you could earn flags based off of achievements anyways.

[@bohba13]

@@jdogrulez5014 agreed. dets shouldn't be a thing, almost all of the stat boosts should just be integrated, and the ramming flag is really the only one I can think of that isn't something that should just be baseline. and the speed flag should remain for historical accuracy reasons.

[@Dont14-r4k]

​​@@bohba13why don't they replace the ramming flag with an upgrade? Like you research it and buy it and now your ship permanently has an armor bow. Sure this cost a lot more but it's now a lot more than just ramming, as now your bow is armored thus alot less things can get through it.a

[@bohba13]

@@Dont14-r4k slot one upgrade, "Ramming prow" increases speed, doubles ramming damage, halves ramming damage taken. sound good? (the speed is also to potentially replace sierra mike)

[@ludvigthebirb7131]

Looks a lot like Nelson. Because it is indeed a Nelson class BB. Her sister ship

[@EvoraGT430]

The only BB to have actually torpedoed another BB in real life (Bismarck).

[@teacoffee5847]

My mate at work is over the moon this ship is releasing, his dad served on it during ww2

[@richieThach]

For some reason, Rodney in game also uses Nelson's camo instead of her unique ones she had historically.

[@Whaley96]

Could just be a place holder ​@@richieThach

[@OddThomas88]

Destroyed Bismarck IRL

[@pegasusted2504]

I agree complaetely with the signals situation. If memory serves they were trying to sort out the economy in some manner when they did this. The only issue with that is that it affected such a small amount of the community ie those longer term players, and maybe those that have spent a lot of cash on the game, who had managed to gain a stupid amount of credits. I liked the way signals used to be done, yes you get credits and such but doing well in a battle used to give you tangible benefits in your future battles. Same goes with the camos. Now, if my ship doesn't have a perm camo then I don't even bother putting them on.

[@sardaukerlegion]

The expensive flags are the WoWs equivalent to the golden ammo in WoT.

[@michawozniak5492]

WoT mechanic is even worse. At least here you can influence a battle with some good decision making not so much in WoT.

[@sardaukerlegion]

@@michawozniak5492 Tried that one for some months during C-Virus, then uninstalled it.

[@BadMedic]

Crazy that the Rodney doesn’t have increased AP damage or dispersion.. During the Bismarck expedition and subsequent other studies of the Bismarck it was determined that Rodney’s 16 inch gun did in fact penetrate the Bismarck belt. Thus proving that KRUPPSTAHL ain’t all it’s cracked up to be.

[@maltemejlstrup4746]

Well idk about all battleships but it seemed to be a general rule that a battleship would be armored to be able to withstand shells of it's own caliber. Like the Iowas are meant to withstand 16 inch shells. I don't remember if that was the case with Bismarck but the fact that Bismarck remained floating for as long as she did is still nothing to scoff at. Certainly worse armored ships out there at the time.

[@atpyro7920]

I mean, at the ranges Rodney was smashing her at, nothing's going to be stopping a 406mm AP shell. Most battleships were armored against their own guns at expected battle ranges of around 10-12k+ yards, once you get within that range the armor becomes less of a "how will it stop this shell" and becomes more "how much damage will the shell do once it detonates inside of the other ship somewhere"

[@Allies_USA]

4:56 Rodney has same dispersion formula as Soviet BB line, not Petro Soviet BB line dispersion formula = Range x 11.8 + 35

[@dooge6690]

When you have auto-purchase on, it pays full price for buying flags in single quantities. When you go to the shop and buy 20 at a time, you have the option of at least using a coupon, when available, and it can be 25%-50% off. I never use auto-purchase.

[@Stephen__White]

I really wish Rodney would have been made a T8, and not just because T7 BB armour is TERRIBLE, but because she has historical relevance as one of the ships to face down Bismarck, and was a ship that was a legit threat to Bismarck, having comparable armour and superior firepower, the only real major advantage Bismarck had over Rodney at least on paper was speed. In practice Bismarck was more accurate because of having a more modern aiming system, and Rodney was in desperate need of repairs and modernization when she was called back from Halifax to sink Bismarck. To the point where every time Rodney fired her guns at Bismarck she would blow the doors to her boilers open. I mean it also would just be nice to have a ship using the Nelson class design at T8 that isn't a stupidly overpowered Russian ship. I'll still likely see about getting her because I love the ship and her history, but still kind of bummed she's not a T8. Edit: 5:25 The flags for achievements were basically nothing. Everyone calming they made any sort of difference in the grand scheme of things is remembering things with rose tinted glasses. It was EVENTS that gave us the massive stock piles of signals that are slowly being burned though. From my recollection basically every achievement gave 10 flags, once per day, and you are not likely to even get every achievement in the run of a day. For instance I'm fairly sure Juliet Whiskey Unaone came from Liquidator, an achievement that was incredibly hard to get, and very unlikely to happen every 10 battles, because torpedoes have this bad habit of killing their target, and to cause 40% of a targets HP in floods is a lot. Or how about November Echo Setteseven, gotten from AA Defense Expert, how often do you really get AA Defense Expert? Because for me, it's maybe once every 14-17 battles, and I play a lot of AA cruisers. CVs tend to avoid the ships that actually shoot down their planes. Unsinkable for Juliet Yankee Bissotwo, yes I'm totally going to let 2 full un-reduced floods run and burn through 40% of my HP just so I can shorten the duration of the next 10. Not gonna happen. It's actually the only Achievement I don't have. I've gotten a Solo Warrior before getting Unsinkable, because floods tend to get fixed before they can cause damage. Like I'm not saying it's a good thing they removed it. I'm just saying they really didn't make that big of a difference overall, unless you weren't really playing the game enough to even burn through flags.

[@Daveyboy1066]

The Nelson class had a major design flaw with the rudder system, which meant it continueously broke down and failed. One of the class had a major modificaion to fix it (can't remember which) but the other was left with the failing.

[@Frigidblood]

Re: Flags The fact that rewarding flags for achievements was minor is part of what made it so stupid for them to remove it. It just made the game worse with no upside.

[@Stephen__White]

@@Frigidblood Yeah it really was dumb, but at the same time doesn't make as big of a difference as PQ(and some others) makes it sound.

[@stephen1r2]

It was a mental incentive to play randoms/ranked that isn't there anymore. It was very minor sure but why take it away?

[@athena139c]

As a new player to wows credits are the most frustrating part of the grind. Even with all the premium time I was able to get from missions it’s still barely enough to keep up with the tech lines I’m progressing down. I’m relying on the Science of Victory campaign to get my signal flags but it’s still frustrating.

[@Stephen__White]

There is no rush on coal ships, put your 3 daily containers into "more signals" and you should start to see a fair boost to your flag counts. Avoid using flags you don't need as well. For instance if you are playing a French CA you don't really need fire chance flags, your fire chance is already high enough you won't see much difference in having them equipped to not. If you are playing a ship like the German CAs you really don't need the consumable flag until you reach T9 and get a heal, even then it's debatable. On that note, repair flags are mostly redundant on Cruisers, it only actually gets you an extra 2.6% HP from your heal. Save it for ships that actually have HP. (The 20% boost is to the base repair % and that is 0.5% per second, so it only boosts it up to 0.6% per second for standard heals. Superheals go from 2% per second to 2.4% per second so it's worth running on those, even on Cruisers.) Save hydro flags for ships later in the tree as well, when your hydro range grows to 5km for standard ships and 6km for Germans. No need in it any sooner. Speed flags shouldn't really be wasted on slow ships. A sub 20 knot ship will still be slow with the flag. You won't really get to the fight any faster. Until you can get a reserve built up, I'd personally only put them on DDs and fast cruisers. Flags are a resource that should be managed. Just because one can be equipped and gives a positive effect doesn't mean you NEED it equipped, or that you are actually even gaining much benefit from it. And remember even though they may not look it, those bonuses are VERY small.

[@yourfavoritelawnguy2722]

just give up on flags. only buy them when you have the half off coupons. You will never have enough flags without whaling.

[@chiracultrainstinct3d629]

I use flags only when I play ranked or when I use a secondary ship (for the range). Except that, I don’t use them and can get nice games and good win/rate. The most annoying thing is the credit/Xp boosters that are just melting

[@jaimemetcher388]

@@chiracultrainstinct3d629 Same, I never use flags. I've been accumulating them for years, probably should start using them in ranked. I just didn't want to get used to the gameplay with them coz I have no intention of buying them when they run out. Same with camos back when they had buffs, I only used the DD camos for higher tier DD matches, coz 10% concealment was such a massive advantage.

[@jaimemetcher388]

@samtraynor3670 I know it's frustrating to run out of credits, but a couple of thoughts that'll maybe help: 1. Honestly many of the most fun ships are in tiers 5-7, so don't feel too bummed to have to spend more time there. Tier IX ships are famously awful, and a lot of times I get the tier X and then hardly play it because tier X gameplay isn't great. 2. It takes waaay longer to grind captain points than ships, so slowing down your ship grind to let your captains catch up isn't a bad idea. So my formula for happy WoWS gameplay is: de-emphasize the grind, forget flags, chill out in the mid tiers where repair costs are lower anyway, and while you aren't looking the credits will accumulate. Then every now and then you get to blow 30M credits on a new tier X that you may or may not like.

[@-sly-Critique]

Oh I agree with you 100%. I am not a new player and I had 100Mill plus some credits but after 4x resets on a line to get the Illinois and the commonwealth tree I am skint.

[@Tundraviper41]

Fun fact: Allegedly, Rodney was the only battleship in history to successfully torpedo another battleship, the Bismarck.

[@stephen1r2]

Having achievements reward flags was a useful incentive towards playing those game-modes that feature them. I have that even less drive towards randoms.

[@Frigidblood]

16:45 Don't think I didn't see that Azur Lane camo on Nelson. PQ is secret AL fan confirmed??? 😉

[@Cocomofo]

Gay

[@Daveyboy1066]

The biggest downer to me compared to the Nelson is the massive HE pen drop from 104mm to 64mm I believe you said. The Nelson's HE pen makes them more like a sap shell but with Fire!

[@waverleyjournalise5757]

It was also something that made the ship really kinda busted, and why shoot HE on guns this big, it's just giving up overmatch and meaningful damage in favour of being cancerous.

[@wojtass1818]

Great great thank you for staying positive CC and content creator for all those years and yet, not hasitating for pointing out some WG "mischieving". Keep up a good work, my good sir!

[@shironee_2384]

I have once received 3 detonations IN A ROW on F. Sherman, and one of them was from Ohio's stray secondaries. Since then I'm concluded that Sherman is unplayable without deto flags, which is sucks because it reduced my credits earning by a lot. On one hand, some ships are safe enough to be played without deto flags, on the other it's the opposite but you need to pay a hefty price to knew all of that. I also believe that the increasing flag's cost would justify WG for putting them as part of "premium" reward for various bundles. Lastly, the only "reliable" way for farming flags is by battle pass crates, which once again is very rng dependant for what useful flags do you get.

[@tonyennis1787]

8:35 Nelson's super-heal plus easily-hit citadel work ak cross-purposes. At least with Rodney you don't lose your meme asset (superheal) because your hull is thin.

[@admiralrover74]

I think they should Buff the AP of Rodney, since historically, it's HMS Rodney's Shells that made The Bismarck a Floating Wreck, after all, it will be good to have a more AP Focused Nelson.

[@preacher3d801]

i did a breake for 3 years .. not only did they nerv the signals from the Medals .. no also from the Containers..

[@bradpederson4510]

Agreed about the flags btw dam that move pissed me off.

[@Notsogoodguitarguy]

Honestly, to me, flags are a clear P2W mechanic. even if you could earn them a little easier, it's still P2W, since you're gonna earn, what, 1-2 flags per game at most, and that's only if it's a good game. But you run at least 4, probably 6 flags each and every game. The solution for me is to remove flags, remove detonations from the game completely and just buff some of the commander skills and modules so that they're actually worth taking.

[@Neneset]

I stopped using combat signals in Random battles, unless using expensive boosters, when they removed signals from achievements.

[@ryanbrochu3336]

Fun fact, because of Nelson and Rodney's unique shape, they resembled British tankers of their era and UK tankers ended their names in "ol" so the crews of the ships referred them as Nelsol and Rodnol.

[@merru-mun7414]

So happy you're talking about the new player experience. It's really annoying seeing CCs being like "Oh just grind this" or "Just run that lmao" Like everyone has access to a fckg CC account where WG spoonfeeds you everything you need.

[@fletch4813]

Don't put another dime in this game

[@retirednavychief6983]

So, we have the HMS Nelson as a BB, the HMS Rodney as a BC, and the HMS Collingwood and HMS Nottingham as CCs all with the aft superstructure/forward armament.

[@randalhuffman8827]

Collingwood is a BB with 431mm guns.

[@Frigidblood]

@@randalhuffman8827 Collingwood has 419 mm guns. Big difference between that and 431.

[@aproudbaguette3605]

Rodney comes out the day Bismarck has been sunk, coincidence ? I think not

[@maltemejlstrup4746]

I also love the fact they gave her torps when she's also the only battleship to ever torp another battleship which happens to also be Bismarck. Allegedly anyway. Oh and doesn't the engine boost reflect that she was once pushed to sail way faster than she was intended to? Gotta love historical consumables and such.

[@old_guard2431]

Not going to beat the $10 AL Littorio. . . Question is how much easier it is to get all turrets on target with this all-forward do-si-do turret arrangement?

[@Broodingrage235]

Just got this in a Santa crate along with a Kutuzov and a Z-53. Santa was good this year.

[@Zenitchik_130]

Saying Rodney looks a lot like a Nelson is an understatement to say the least considering it is quite literally second ship of the class

[@maxmateos719]

Sad to see such an important ship being just a copy paste, even the camouflage is the same as Nelson.

[@구름-e7x]

It seems the developers don't even play the game. How can you expect them to watch the video about it?

[@BiscuitWaite]

I don't recall Nelson's armor scheme off the top of my head but the meta for Nelson was to charge, then reverse course and kite and bounce all the shells. So if you're bow in and trying to angle then you've messed up. Not you you, the theoretical you.

[@xXSgtJackXx]

Thank god you talked about signals, as someone who played quite a bit of WOWS through out the years, ive accumulated a ton of boosters (back in the day camos) and signals and I always hated the signals system, they are terrible for the game economy and for the overall players experience, specially new players

[@tonyennis1787]

6:45 the answer to why they would remove the free "survival" flags can be seen in their financials. Did people start buying them (with real money), or not? A compromise would be that you get one of anti-det, anti-fire, or anti-flood, free, per match

[@garystew2077]

I've been dealing with the flags issue for a while now and really only use them when WG gives me some free premium days. I only have 70 ships at the moment and only use about half that so I try to save up my credits for upgrading new ships I'm grinding since that is also absurdly expensive. I also hate how they make you pay to change commander skills and ship builds around. The elite commander XP is harder to come by and is so frustrating to try a commander build out only for it to suck and then have to pay a ton to switch it around.

[@TheJoe7Six]

Have to agree about the signals. If you don't have a boat load of credit boosters or you have several blow out games in a row, it's not worth running signals. I hardly run them anymore because it eats up too many credits, especially at lower tiers.

[@lightbluewaves5526]

She's gonna be the 8th tier 7 British battleship. We have King George, Duke of York, Rooke, Hood, Renown 44, Collingwood, Nelson and now Rodney

[@HoverLambo]

I love the way that in game a massive citadel is bad, yet in reality it was very important (Oh and Rodney was very heavily armoured (thats why shes slow)

[@billnguyen6329]

can i know what website that you're using to know the sigma values, shell drag, etc?

[@TheShinySearcher]

Google WOWs ship tools

[@BackToRootz]

Thanks for the review

[@ERAUsnow]

Wasn't pleased that sister ships would have different gun performance this wildly, since Missouri, Wisconsin and Iowa are so close (come on, just put New Jersey in to round out the class already), ,but then I remembered Rodney's only notable engagement. Ya know...the one where her 16 inch rifles couldn't get through Bismark's belt at point blank range (less than 9000 yards)?

[@Mr_G.R.A.V.I.T.Y]

Rodney reminds me of defence since it also has the same gun placement and have torpedoes but as a battleship with more guns with bigger caliber

[@DarthCody700]

They did the British so dirty in this game. Just flat out ignoring the armor of the whole line, and the Nelson class was designed like they were specifically to shrink the size of the citadel. If I could redo the British bb line I would remove the Monarch, and move up Queen Elizabeth and KGV, add an R class bb at tier 6 and give them all historical armor. The British thing should be HE faster reloads, and best armor, with the trade off of under caliber guns, poor top speed, average maneuverability, and no special gimmick equipment beyond the heal.

[@ReDiR20]

so it's Nelson with speedboost, torps, but with nerfed damage and accuracy. Plus only regular (not even improved RN) heal. Decent trade off

[@maltemejlstrup4746]

Well it is an improved heal according to one of the last dev articles she was mentioned in but perhaps that improvement simply meant the fast use and reload. Still, the Rodney seems like a sidegrade to the Nelson, which is perfectly okay in my books.

[@hughejass9461]

When I stopped playing, after eight years, I had close to a billion credits, half a billion in coal, and over a hundred thousand in steel but had long ago quit spending real money on the game due to War Gambling's policies. My feeling always was that they wanted more money so that's why they removed the flags from achievements and nerfed the daily loot crate drops. Regardless, War Gambling only cares about money and ignores their player's opinions hence triple submarine and double cv matches.

[@icenad8468]

could we get a video on the lion

[@edwardmackey747]

In addition to reducing the cost of flags overall, the new flag prices should scale with the tier of ship. A tier 10 ship = full price (with new reduced pricing), while a tier 6 ship = 50% of full price (with new reduced pricing).

[@jasonyang4601]

Would you let us know the website you use to check the sigma of the ships? Thank you

[@jarrusjenkins]

it really should get the same shells as nelson really

[@kyleuptergrove4040]

PQ, thank you for another PQ rant bringing up economic worries for F2P players. Its extremely frustrating and crazy. Glad you are enjoying the new Rodney. WG can also make spotting for CVs in WoWs Legends only Minimap spotting but we can't on regular game. So many b.s things in the game. CVs/Subs get all the protection. Keep it up bud!

[@Maximilian7992]

In WoWSB, Rodney is an AP focused Nelson

[@MartyInLa]

PQ, totally agree with you that taking away the flags for earning achievements was a totally bad move for WG. That, shoving CVs down our throats, shoving subs down our throats, making Super Ships totally pay to win, making all our camos totally useless, making fleets of ships with bigger than Yamato guns, all this and more made me stop buying ships and paying for a premium account, something I did for years.

[@stevegentilly726]

Hi PQ, I have not been playing for months, and now seeing what warcrapping has done to the signals it is guaranteed that I will never play again. I just Deleted my warcrapping account. I will still continue to watch your videos, thank you for that. I am very happy to never have to deal with warcrapping's sh*it anymore. See you later!!

[@davidhines7592]

rodney and nelson were both same class and both treaty ships.

[@joshuayang0331]

Yeah, hope the flags could be like modules, they can raise the price if they make it like this, it's better paying it once and for all than paying it every time, it cost a lot long term

[@Gunni1972]

"Confound Penetration" on a DD... @7:41 It has no Citadel. 3 hits

[@brett76544]

Flags, People that play the game a few games a week, the normal player will get more flags in the boxes than they will ever get by getting them for the acceivements. Me, who knows I just go for coal containers and even with playing a few games a day on average but with the Guilio Cesar, Massachusetts and other OP ships I might out preform the 3 containers maybe.

[@mathiasrryba]

Yeah, even moreso if like me you just lazily do battlepass dailies and in effect, daily containers in operations where you don't even need to use flags you can get a crapton of them. That said I too pick coal containers anyways and got 100+ of each flag. Think I was selling them for credits too becaue there were just so many

[@latebraker]

The flag change was a huge negative IMO. About the time I stopped putting any money into the game. I never needed to buy a ton of flags but now trying to run the main flags even with premium my money seems to never go up. One of the reasons I never bought super ships because the credits. Props to PQ for speaking up about this change because it is one of the last straws that really turned my opinion with the game.

[@majornomad5952]

It looks amazing i really want this ship ive been waiting for thos Ship, please can you lets know how to get this ship its not in the store currently & really want this ship so bad

[@snoke5567]

About the flags thing, its definitely a huge problem for me. As a newish player, I have a premium account and even when I play in a premium ship with BLUE boosters I'm still losing 300-400k credits in a good game. I have no idea how to make credits without selling my shit. It is so bad

[@jaimemetcher388]

Don't use flags. A lot of people don't, the game is perfectly playable without them. Losing credits in a premium ship and premium account with boosters is nuts, that thing is supposed to be your earner that pays for all your other ships.

[@snoke5567]

@@jaimemetcher388 that's what I'm saying, but like PQ said in the video, running flags makes your ship so much better that it's insane not to take them. I have started running more of a budget flag setup and that's helped a bit though

[@alejandropinchetti8302]

Its not more comprable with the collingwood?

[@mikeconnor7394]

I hope it will do well in Ranked - so far I like it

[@R-2500]

If WG "had" to reimplement paying for consumables in order to get flags for achievements back I would be fine with that

[@joedoe6444]

if you have paid attention over the last 2 years WG has been slowly nerfing the rewards. just look at the dockyard missions, some require you to tank 30-40 mil in damage and the reward is 10,000 credits. all the rewards for dockyard missions are just the same 10k credits. meaningless. the battle pass was nerfed every few months last year, and now this year we have the new event pass. it not only has greatly reduced rewards, but they were also wanting more dubs to get the pay line. then look at all the patches, camo's, and low skill Cmdr.'s they fill the spaces with. also, the steel was in one lump sum, and now it is in several slots reducing other possible rewards. they did the same with the steel in this dockyard, going from one reward slot with 2k steel to now consuming 5 spots worth of rewards. also, the event pass has taken away the old early access mission we had as a stand-alone set of missions and rewards. everything they do takes away the rewards, all because the players that have spent many years/hours and spent a ton on cash on dubs, crates and ships over the years have "to much" of the resources, and WG thinks this is a bad thing so they decide to punish every player including the new ones that so desperately need the rewards of flags and other things to be even slightly competitive with the old players and the skill difference.

[@zemaj80021]

Couple days late, is it already removed from the shop??

[@zemaj80021]

nm I found it on the website, under featured silly me I looked under ships....

[@ManuR-l4m]

These days its like they roll a 50/50 dice on if a new BB gets Speed Boost or not. About signal flags. Its even not recommended to run many of them as a full premium time player. The good ones are so expensive that you always have to think twice if you want to be able to still buy high tier ships for Credits. Signal flags suck up way too much of your credit income as it is right now. Flags for achievements need to come back. And the prices for them need to be lowered alot in the armory. 500k at the highest for 20 flags.

[@mastermind9393]

We needed another British T7 bb about as much as we needed another German T8 bb or Japanese T9 bb...

[@iamhuffman]

wait they removed the signal flags from the game?

[@James_Games76]

Dunno if anyone knows, but with the new startrek event you can print silver

[@captain.foxtrot]

Maybe not as good as nelson but seems still like a solid ship. Collingwood is also quite good if you make use out of 410mm British AP at T7 with reload booster consumables. Can you maybe cover it as well? :)

[@vitezslavlorenc3479]

Collingwood is just the biggest BB trash that I have ever played in wows. It has just 0 armor.

[@randalhuffman8827]

431 mm

[@Frigidblood]

@@vitezslavlorenc3479 It used to have 16 mm bow and stern plating while in testing. Every T5 BB could overmatch cit it from the front.

[@dinomra7771]

What happened to your Discord server?

[@thegeneral123]

Rodney needs an icebreaker or modified citadel. The idea you're supposed to be brawling in a slow BB with a massive citadel is bonkers. You'll be facing tons of overmatch for the fragile bow and there's too many games you'll be facing T9s. That's a hard pass from me.

[@PoiFudz]

The reason flags by achievement was removed was because WG didn't want us to farm detonation flags. Like, if people really wanted to blow up their ships for some flag.

[@majornomad5952]

How do we acquire this Ship now ?

[@maudrysilvain5905]

PQ; if you're wondering why they removed all flags, it was back a few years ago, when a CM from Austin said that, people were FARMING det flag (yes yes, farming, you read that right) so WG had to remove all flags from the game (which, with what other people said below; feels kinda like BS, more like whaling milk TBH) Also I tend to disagree with your opinion of Nelsol/Rodnol; it is a tanky ship; once you turn around your hull and present the bulge. In that case scenario, the only ship that can hurt you is a Musashi (since she's the only one to overmatch that plating). On Nelson it is a good idea, as you do not have to worry about torpedo, on Rodney however ? I am not so sure... as she has slightly less DPM

[@MultiverseEmperor]

has nelson itself been removed from armory long ago?

[@Burke813]

Yes in like 2020

[@L0RDLUK]

Needing to buy flags is so expensive that even a player like me who has some T9 premiums can basically only play the premiums because as soon as I plan anything else, I am hemorrhaging credits.

[@L0RDLUK]

And it doesn't matter if you get them for achievements or not, because you don't really get the most important flags for achievements anyway. Example: You'd have to get detonated to get the anti-detonation flag.... Get rid of flags altogether and have a better game, please WG...

[@L0RDLUK]

Oh and BTW, you can buy credits for real money so the whole thing about this mechanic NOT being a PTW one doesn't really work. This absolutely is a PTW mechanic.

[@andrewk911]

People were farming achievements at low tiers. It was driving new players away. That's why they removed rewards for achievements.

[@Thaa_Farmer]

new to your channel (subbed) but have played WoWs off and on for a while but way more off than on lmao. I would say I'm more casual but know what I'm doing mostly. Starting a new profile a couple years ago I can say I rarely use the signals because they're too expensive for a 1 game use, I'd just take the L and detonate if it happens even though I hate it's annoying af I just can't afford it. Grinding is horrible and expensive with captains/ship cost/module cost/equipment cost with little reward per game even with a few kills or solid damage etc. and the only time I have premium is when I get it for free so the signals to add onto that make the game even worse. The game is fun for a bit but tires easily for me probably why I don't stick around too long, I don't have an issue with grinding things but with WoWs it just hits different, a negative way different.

[@RealX-Benz]

I don’t understand the idea of having 3 premium of the same exact class and should you take off sell the most powerful ones I mean Collingwood should be taken off cell and then Rodney and Nelson to be on sale all the time

[@bladesideentertainment7002]

I like the detonation mechanic

[@jacobhammock3355]

Hello PQ community... Has anyone else noticed that it's harder to make silver credits in the game recently? I was playing a lot this past Saturday and mostly tier ten and when I got through I had only profited like 1 mil credits over about 20 battles and I can remember I used to make that in one battle back when I played more often

[@Ducky1760]

Now we really do have the British Lenin (the Russian dispersion curve)

[@EvoraGT430]

Without the armour, sadly.

[@ladion7285]

Its soooo frustrating getting achivements but not getting any reward or venefit especialy if you played in the time where it was common to get rewards for them. Its so greedy

[@brianhoyt2469]

The single answer to every and every question regarding why WG makes a bad decision that impacts the player base "GREED” end of story.

[@dlm9709]

PQ should add a tangent counter at this point

[@j5689]

Supposedly their justification for removing the ability to earn flags was because people were farming them. The logic ends there though, because anybody can do it so it was always completely fair, as opposed to the greedy money grubbing scheme it is now where it makes it impossible to come out ahead economically because you have to spend so much on them now.

[@thepaperbagmask]

The heal flag is honestly such a no brainer it sucks that i have to buy them all the time lol

[@adudeontheinternet8658]

WGing, I'm on the edge on playing this game. If my cost becomes such that I have to pay to play then I'm done.

[@Magoo-h9k]

Completely agree PQ! This game is pay to win and compete. The economy is now setup where you must pay for a subscription to advance in this game. Especially if you are a new player. If you are new and want to move up the tech tree, purchase a Premium subscription. Been playing WoW for seven years now. I stopped paying for anything two years ago. Glad I have a large fleet of ships to play with.

[@Boatswain_Tam]

Ill get the ship for historical value, but I'll stick to my Nelson. At the end of the day, no gimmick can beat consistent, reliable, hard-hitting guns

[@BatmatYT]

10000000% agree on the flags 😂

[@ThatAussieBloke1]

Yikes I didn't even know about that flag change and I've been playing since closed beta.

[@yrefrank]

Well,seems really another Nelson with different skin😮‍💨 "We are not pay to win ,we are scam you to win "--WG

[@123ikubuf]

i thought rodney has better armor than nelson?