Explanation of when and why we count a neutral as a current carrying conductor for the purpose of derating (ampacity adjustment).
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@joeljahnke9000 Жыл бұрын
Dave, you are an exceptional teacher. I appreciate, so much, your organized and sequential manner in which you teach. You rock!
@Calico5string1962 Жыл бұрын
Your video presentations are simply the BEST I have ever watched. So we'll explained and presented. As an industrial/commercial electrician for over 40 years, I really enjoy watching your stuff! It's always a great refresher for me. Thank you, Dave, for sharing your knowledge and insight!
@JesseKlaus8 ай бұрын
This is probably the most thorough explanation of shared neutrals I've seen - well done.
@danielelise734810 ай бұрын
This guy actually makes learning this complex stuff enjoyable.🤔⚡
@khanhho8471Ай бұрын
Thank you Dave. You make it very easy to understand.
@bahbee5659 Жыл бұрын
“Oop, keep my thumb down.” A great educator & can bring a smile to my face👍
@stephendavis6408 Жыл бұрын
Clear and concise explainations of both the theory and the NEC. Thank you.
@pamdemonia Жыл бұрын
That was great! Wish you had been my code teacher when I was an apprentice!
@michaeldonnelly2977 Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I was looking for an explanation of exactly HOW current can possibly flow back to the source through the second hot leg on a multi wire circuit, from an electrical theory point of view. You explained it very simply and eloquently with your “trading post“ analogy. Thank you, sir! This was very, very helpful!
@soundman260411 ай бұрын
Best teacher ever, and above all correct!
@martf1061 Жыл бұрын
16:35 Thank you. Now i understand why, sometimes, the engineers asked for a double wired neutral in transformers. I learned more in 2h watching your explainations, than i did in 20 years . I suggest you do some videos about motors.
@doctorgoodwrench2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for continuing to post, Dave. Your explanations are remarkable.
@davegordon68192 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your vote of confidence, and thanks for engaging with the other viewer. I put a link to my new "open neutral" video in the responses below if you're interested.
@charlieperez68447 ай бұрын
Im so glad i subscribed to your channel. Your videos have helped me understand a bit more. Thank you!
@johnnyelectric7572 Жыл бұрын
again....just a great Teacher. Thanks!
@benfurnish9948 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. It makes total sense now. Plus a bonus for having the Soli Deo Gloria posted.
@davegordon6819 Жыл бұрын
Thanks brother. I am thankful for God's mercy to me and may He help us both to use what He has given us for His glory.
@user-xw5ve7nc9k10 ай бұрын
Thank you very much.
@DanielRamos-bq8pyАй бұрын
excellent job sir ! well explained and much appreciated !
@michaelcostello6991 Жыл бұрын
Excellent lecture. So well explained. Cannot think of any questions after this
@renediaz5162 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome and useful class!
@mph59862 жыл бұрын
Clearly and easy understand. 👍
@Lazdinger Жыл бұрын
Soli Deo Gloria for this man’s videos.
@mcarroll598 Жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation!
@user-or3rm9tt8l3 күн бұрын
Thanks...I really enjoying
@ryanjourneymanwireman4937 Жыл бұрын
One of the best electrical videos I've seen (hoping info is correct) but thanks
@paulmullen573 Жыл бұрын
Great videos, Dave. A suggestion... a set of videos on Grounding and Bonding would be super helpful. I understand the concepts, but I don't understand how the grounding and bonding topics are organized in the NEC and I spend a lot of time flipping pages to be sure.
@MrKandela10 Жыл бұрын
the best explanation!
@ramonqo1 Жыл бұрын
You are the best.
@ochoaelectric5175 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done
@michaelarriaga08 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video thank you so much
@xevierred6330 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating
@abigalanderson7494 Жыл бұрын
I like how Dave puts the code section next to his pictures
@Peace88Hi Жыл бұрын
Thank you prof.
@daveculbertson602 Жыл бұрын
Very informative video.
@TheCompton1963 Жыл бұрын
Dave is the best! 🧑🏻🏫
@justd3123 Жыл бұрын
so clear, tnx
@tfun1019 ай бұрын
At 6:40 I was like….”ohhhhh duh” and it all finally made sense. 🙃
@safetythirdified Жыл бұрын
Where have you been all my life!
@brentcory81942 жыл бұрын
Great video! So am I correct in saying in most commercial applications i.e. office buildings, schools, medical offices, etc. we should be counting the neutral due to 310.15(E)(3)?
@RustyJeepHole Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir
@mariogregory4922 Жыл бұрын
I like Dave!
@morelightpm457 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. JW - LU #613
@chadhardwick9214 Жыл бұрын
Dudes a correction factor ninja….😎
@yusprogres5271 Жыл бұрын
Yessss
@tommywatterson52765 ай бұрын
I remember something about neutral ampacity rating at 70% of phase voltage
@brianskellenger93442 ай бұрын
🎯
@faroutdesign4 ай бұрын
Great video! I don’t get to work with a lot of wye systems. I have seen a 10 awg neutral on a shared system with non linear loads. Is this a code article requirement or just a good work practice?
@alyssaisaackson6797 Жыл бұрын
I have a 3 phase solar inverter combiner panel the load is balanced on all 3 phases. I don’t even think the neutral Carry’s current would I have to count it ?
@pakistanian23253 ай бұрын
May Allah bless u.❤
@markchidester6239 Жыл бұрын
Is there a situation where the neutral wire needs to be larger gauge than the "hot" wires because it has the potential of carrying more amps than the "hot" wires?
@ericthered96552 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't the voltage increase if the waves are out of phase?
@TheMinecraftACMan2 жыл бұрын
For the single phase drawing at the top, where you had two separate multi-wire circuits, would it introduce the potential for any weirdness if the two non-shared neutrals were accidentally swapped?
@davegordon68192 жыл бұрын
Good question. If the two neutrals were swapped on the right side of the top diagram it could create a big problem. You would then have the lower black wire sharing a neutral with the upper black wire. The result would be that that neutral would carry the addition of the two black wires - meaning that if each was carrying 20 amps, the neutral would be carrying 40 amps. They would not cancel each other out. It would be like sharing a neutral between two wires from the same leg (bus) in a residential panel. This is why when we are working with 120/240 V single-phase panels we need to make sure that if we share neutrals, we share them between one wire from one bus and one wire from the other bus. Likewise, in other facilities where we run more than one multiwire branch circuit within the same conduit, we must identify which neutrals go with which phase conductors [see NEC 200.4(B)]. Alternately, if you tied the two neutrals together, you could entertain similar issues depending on how much current is flowing on each hot conductor... I plan, at some point, to make videos that focus on current flow with the various systems and point out these sorts of problems.
@warrenjtaylor87142 ай бұрын
The first system is slightly wrong i thought because the coils are wound in opposite direction, so line to line is 180 out of phase. Hence the 'split'. Also tell them it's a voltage source not current source if any load asks...
@mikebavoso2611 ай бұрын
Very good. Does anyone know if Dave is a professor at a nationally recognized University?
@patricksmith24142 жыл бұрын
Would the neutral count if it were a 4-wire, 3 phase wye connected system with only 1 phase conductor and the neutral?
@BG-eng Жыл бұрын
Every time you have a single phase a neutral Carry the current back so that group is counted as 2 wires
@TM-cm4gb Жыл бұрын
Quite interesting, as european i wasnt sure how US 120/240V thing works but logical ofc. Fault with open neutral would cause all kinds of shenanigans in the the system then whereas in EU system it would fully turn off the circuit. I wonder if it is a problem with devices getting destroyed etc with that kind of fault.
@okaro6595 Жыл бұрын
Three phase is common in Europe and in it the results are similar to what in the US split phase. On the other hand in the UK style single phase broken neutral puts full 240 V to equipment cases. In split phase and three phase it can be smaller than the full mains.
@NeoN-PeoN5 ай бұрын
Is it not the case that basically all home setups are unbalanced? I mean, no one is going through their homes and adding the amps up on each circuit to ensure they're balanced. So in the neutral is probably always carrying current, right?
@pld89932 күн бұрын
In individual circuits (1 hot paired with 1 neutral) the neutral carries the same amperage as the hot and is always counted as a current carrying conductor.
@jeanv48712 жыл бұрын
Hi Dave, my husband has some questions and wanted to know if you do one on one video calls plz let me know! Thank you!!
@Waffel-eb2gf Жыл бұрын
whta does it mean when you say "add heat" ?
@GailsonPvPwtf Жыл бұрын
*raises hand* If you take 2 of the hots in a 3 phase service to power a 1 phase device, wouldn't the voltage be irregular since the waves and troughs of the AC current aren't oppsite and balanced? Apprentice here.
@WorBlux Жыл бұрын
Assuming a wye configuration - peak to peak Voltage across 2 phases is 2(cos(30)) of p2p-V on and single phase. So 208 on a 120 Wye. But it's still a regular sine wine. (Any addition of sine waves at the same frequency is another sine wave on that frequency.
@etherealrose2139 Жыл бұрын
Power goes in and out both conductors. It's a perfect sine wave at whatever voltage the two are at line to line.
@stevebrule6172 Жыл бұрын
I have a tricky multiple choice question, hopefully someone with more knowledge can help me out A White/grey wire in a feeder circuit ________: A)Be bonded or have a circuit breaker B)Is the largest wire in that circuit C)Should not have a voltage to ground My notes: On the main panel, neutral is connected to the bar that is bonded with the panel, the green grounding wire is also connected to the same bar. (so does that mean the answer is A?) In the sub panel, the neutral wire is connected to the neutral bar which is isolated from the metal box with plastic between them, the Green grounding wire is separated and is connected to its own bar that is bonded to the sub panel box. In the circuit that this question applies to, --------- “The neutral wire is going to be sized larger than the Green grounding wire” (But that doesn’t mean it’s the LARGEST in the circuit right? Because the two hot wire could be the same size) --------"The neutral should have no potential difference(voltage) to the ground" (does that mean the answer is C?) (But that doesn’t mean it’s the LARGEST in the circuit right? Because the two hot wire could be the same size)
@muradzeynal Жыл бұрын
hey brother, did you find the answer? I want to know as well
@dlp71302 жыл бұрын
Hello mrs Dav.. so if the main neutral wire loose what is going to happen to the system?
@davegordon68192 жыл бұрын
If the neutral is still connected but loose, it could create a high-resistance point in the circuit that would not only get hotter than it should, but could create voltage drop due to the high-resistance point being in series with rest of the circuit. However, if you are asking what happens if it gets disconnected, then I'll refer you to a video I just made that addresses that exact issue of an "open neutral": kzbin.info/www/bejne/gnvZqpWVjNqdkMk
@dlp71302 жыл бұрын
Thk you very much mrs Dave
@P8ntmagnit Жыл бұрын
What song is this?
@Victorkorchemniy8 ай бұрын
“Counting the individual neutral, with one hot.” I get the electrical theory, but it’s not in writing in the code book. How come ? They should add a #4 to clarify that even though is common sense, it’s not mandated in code in specific writing
@TrevorSachko Жыл бұрын
Balanced load, don't use a neutral. Unbalanced load, use a neutral.
@grabir01 Жыл бұрын
Remove the earth ground. Then what you say is true.
@timault8209 Жыл бұрын
Dave... Why do you call power carried by a conductor "heat". I 'think' I know why. But can you explain your use of that word in the context of this lecture, please? (Notice, fellow viewers, that I ask DAVE... and not YOU... for Dave's explanation.)
@JAYDELROSARIQ5 ай бұрын
There are no harmonic you need flux
@abdelghanich7804 Жыл бұрын
hello, Dave i have a question and if you have a time answer me please , first of all thanks for every efforts that you give us so , In a single-phase transformer input, one wire getting entry as live, another as neutral. But what would be in case of its output? In output, which-wire would be phase, and which-one would be neutral? pasteboard.co/dlGFszYF6Iai.png
@BG-eng Жыл бұрын
The system is AC, any one can be hot or neutral. but usually ground/bond is connected to one of the wire which is than identified as neutral. Let’s wait for Dave to comment further