343 is Gone, Halos Future begins | 00 News

[@eragonbromsson1122]

“This rebrand suits you, but it cannot hide that mark.” “Nothing ever will.”

[@Rhine643]

"you are the will of Microsoft by these are my games."

[@MikMoen]

"You are the developer, the maker of Halo Games. But these, are my fellow Gamers. Their feelings matter to me, yours do not." "That makes two of us."

[@Rhine643]

@@MikMoen oh thats better

[@harrisonnguyen5432]

"The stain of suspicion never completely fades."

[@sluggerbutter]

okay okay let’s not compare the arbiter to these hacks but i do understand that analogy HAHA

[@WestonTeli]

keep expectations low...this is our 6th "halo's back"

[@Joe-xq3zu]

Yup, anyone hyping themselves up thinking that this time will be 'it', that surely the Good Halo of old is back this time for realsy real! is just setting themselves up for the bitterness of disappointment.

[@pko1683]

let me know when they give ID software a shot at the IP this is just a company whose brand name that's in the gutter rebranding

[@JonStark117]

*Well seeing as all the hierarchy at 343 who had to “bring back Halo 6 times” are finally GONE…there’s nothing wrong with having skeptical optimism.*

[@Blackstar-yd3yf]

​@@JonStark117the head of the hydra is cut of only 2 more will grow back 😂

[@Lahiss]

Expectations already at rock bottom, but I'm sure they'll find a way to dig under it.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

“Child of my Enemy, why have you come? I offer no forgiveness, for a Fathers sins, passed to his Son.”

[@TheAtomaton]

@jakespacepiratee3740 that's so relevant and so great!

[@camilo9192]

Funny how EVERY quote that people are using to comment on this are from Bungie's Halo.

[@williamklemp3764]

​@@camilo9192 ah, man, almost like Bungie halo was best halo 😂

[@trashjash]

Bruh you're one of the ones who were worshipping the taint of 343i as hard as possible when fans criticised them for their stupid and hostile choices in the past, telling us to be grateful we got anything from them at all.

[@HandsomeCR]

You messed the quote up. It’s not what the grave mine said.

[@LauraTons]

i want to see a definitive statement about if they are going to stop the short term contractors and hire real employees.

[@maube8007]

That's probably up to Microsoft's Personnel department.

[@Areeb118]

It’s a lot easier to use contractors when they’re familiar with the engine they’re working with. Contractors work on so many great games lol

[@BotBruh448]

I don't think they'd take a step as big as abandoning the BLAM!/Slipspace engines for Unreal if they were planning on "permanently" hiring people, sadly

[@BigHeadClan]

⁠@@Areeb118Contractors have a role but unless you have them on for the entire project you are simply a revolving door for new staff that need to learn the processes, coding, difficulties which takes 4-6 months to a year to really get going. Time that senior developers and full time staff need to spend training them for.

[@cdyjv118]

But they lied numerous times before so it wouldn't matter if they did

[@Ratkill9000]

There are also more people versed in Unreal Engine than there are for the SlipSpace engine. So theres a larger talent pool to pull from to bring people on board.

[@blakeblair2120]

@@Ratkill9000 Yes BUT that just feeds into microsofts tendency to avoid long term contracts with people who will really care and be involved beyond a single task for a check

[@CackleTheory]

​@blakeblair2120 yes but if Halo Studios cannot control what Microsoft does hiring wise it's the best thing they can do currently

[@Atoneeo]

Exactly.

[@Atoneeo]

@@blakeblair2120 True.

[@Jermrants]

@@blakeblair2120yes but it’s unreal engine, ARGUABLY one of the best engines in video games and it will only be upgraded and updated throughout the years, It’ll be a lot easier to Make halo games with, and many people will wanna use unreal over halos 20 yr old jambled engine

[@CtKEngage]

Now the modding community and dedicated fans are asking for the BLAM engine to be open sourced as well, assuming it's being completely moved on from.

[@mxm23adregalusandmore62]

Though unlikely, i would love to see the engine going Full open source. It Would not only take modding to whole new levels, but also allow for entire fangames (not that there aren't any) to be made as well.

[@BotBruh448]

This would be such an excellent thing, even fan games would immediately have a step up, modders have known the engine for so long, it being fully open source would give us limitless possibilities, maybe more so than using engines like (previously) Unity and Unreal

[@Freelancer837]

Please, this is the only good thing that can possibly come from the Halo series at this point

[@HappyMexicano]

15:59 average programmer's nightmare. The code didn't work... I don't know why. The code worked! But i don't know why

[@Fulcrumn9]

If it ain't broken, don't fix it

[@adamgardner3768]

The only thing I’m happy about is that the guy who pretty much pulled MCC out of the shit is seemingly in charge.

[@Shadowpack95]

No the person actually in charge, Chief of Staff is the person who 3 years ago said that there should be less men making and playing Halo.

[@solidcdr6]

@@Shadowpack95 yeah i was somewhat optimistic until i saw her lol

[@daweitao2668]

@@Shadowpack95 If that is true, it is sad when misandry is not shut down when it should be :(

[@noblaw7595]

@@Shadowpack95 you do not know what chief of staff means. Hint: it's not above the studio head role. You should stop asserting things about how studios work when your expertise comes from reading angry tweets.

[@Shadowpack95]

@@noblaw7595 Chief of Staff is usually a leading role in a company, often enough Chief of Staff is equal to VP

[@neet_freek4221]

Continue to be cautious/skeptical Halo fans, remember we’ve been here before.

[@ryanhammond5989]

In some ways, yes. But the move to a new engine is unprecedented.

[@ChiefCrewin]

​@@ryanhammond5989...you're...you're joking...right...?

[@shadowguy321]

​@ChiefCrewin it honestly is. Slipspace was not new despite how it was trumpeted. It was a souped up Halo Reach engine, and a terrible version at that

[@Espartanica]

​@@shadowguy321*Souped up Halo CE engine

[@AnExcessiveAmountOfToast]

@@Espartanica *Souped up '99 proto-engine

[@ScrubSlayer117]

I'm really interested to hear 00's opinions on the new halo news

[@lockednloaded9867]

The only news is that 343 changed their name. Same woke slop is going to be vomited into the fans. Are there even halo fans anymore, or is it just old gamers living the nostalgia like runescape players?

[@johnb7627]

I'm not going to be so eager like everybody else I'll just wait and see 🤔

[@ThommyofThenn]

It's good to temper one's giddiness with a realism based perspective. I'm enthusiastic to see what this new iteration of the Halo family brings!

[@nargascoota6896]

When you finally wake chief with some good news

[@ThommyofThenn]

We need you Chief!

[@Kalroy]

Woke the Master Chief.

[@ThommyofThenn]

@@Kalroy chief goes woke!!! CANCELS Sparks plan to FIRE. The Array!

[@Zantsmith]

It's just a rebrand it's still 343..

[@ThommyofThenn]

@@Zantsmith watch rest of video , it explains the differences later on in vid

[@IAsimov]

I think your video sums up what I've been thinking about. 343 Industries/Halo Studios was/is but a subsidiary of Microsoft, and it is one that directly answers to the tech giant. They *have* to follow everything they do, and cannot divert from it. A rebranding was ultimately necessary, especially with the radical changes in management. It's bad enough that all tech giants have been obsessed over getting contractors over full-time employees (hence the necessity to go to Unreal Engine), but if they have to answer absolutely every creative decision to their parent megacorp, then nothing had changed, and ideas with great potential still have a grave risk of being abandoned. HOWEVER. If it is true that they go back to roots, and allow Halo Studios a longer leash to be able to do things without staring over their shoulders, it will mean good things. Then going to Unreal Engine so they can use contractors the best they can, and letting the man that fixed and upgraded the Halo MCC be in charge of things, are both good signs, at the very least. I still love Halo deeply, old and new. I really hope this allows them to make great stuff, because if they do well, Halo is great.

[@maube8007]

I think at some point through development Microsoft ordered 343 to make Infinite a live service game. And 343 said "you got it, Boss!" But they didn't know how to do it, so they just collected pay-cheques and pretended they knew what they were doing until they could no longer hide their incompetence.

[@theelite1234]

I'll always love halo, even if they screw it up again.

[@IAsimov]

@@maube8007 Which proves my point. Contractors are the abundant workforce in any tech industry, and their jobs now have to be learning an arcane engine for over a year before they can actually work on it before those contracts end and they're let go. The few employees that are there cannot confess that they don't know how to do it, or tell their higher-ups that the tech debt has become unmanageable, because they can get the axe. But, the stockholders don't care, they want their money, and that comes either by a game that gives money, or firing people. Half the times it involves doing both. The reason AAA games these last years have sucked is because they've all ended up with the same problems as Tech Companies do right now. With the important fact being, they also get the worst of Hollywoo by virtue of being entertainment companies. When you come down to it, it is all about *how* an organization operates, rather than *who* operates it. You can have the absolute best artists and coders and playtesters ever, when you start but if the organization incentivizes making the ruler(s) happy over ensuring a group's stability that gives dire warnings, all you'll be left with are Yes-Men. And this is something Microsoft as a whole has had as a problem for decades at this point.

[@nickwillard4471]

Glad to see your opinions ln this. You always have well informed videos so this will help bring this all together for me

[@chipsdubbo5.56]

I think this is them admitting 343 was unsuccessful, I am excited about the future!

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

I’ll still enjoy the memories they gave me😊

[@chippsdubbo990]

We'll see

[@Rocco049]

@@chippsdubbo990 this is getting out of hand. Now there are two of them!

[@justinTime077]

@@jakespacepiratee3740 memories of disappointment? me too

[@dmd356]

I dont buy any of this for a single second, im not gonna be hopeful in the name of copium.

[@OrionInSpace]

The next two things that they need to do after this is #1, make the games M for Mature again. Not sure why that was switched, that has always felt like a secret marketing tactic to get more sales and it makes no sense. #2 is make more non Master Chief related games. I think they are hinting at that so let’s just hope we actually see it. I want a new ODST or Reach story like game following new Spartans!

[@WalrusWinking]

"make more non Master Chief related games" Great so you will play as a gay black woman with a hispanic non binary AI Cortano and you will fight the evil White man who is wanting to get revenge on the covenant for killing his family. I don't know about this.

[@falloutgamer347]

​@@WalrusWinkingweird how thats what you first think of. My first thought was another ODST game. You should really take a break from the internet, doesnt seem you have a healthy relationship with it

[@WalrusWinking]

​@@falloutgamer347 "You should really take a break from the internet" Maybe you should use it and find out about all the diversity quotas they have in the videogaming industry.

[@Sir_Guardus]

@@WalrusWinking They kinda need to revive their Cash cow so maybe they would hold off on that bullshit for a little while. If we’re lucky maybe we can get a good spin off game or two.

[@KAISERaw17]

@@WalrusWinking ???

[@devonwarnock2625]

I'm not holding my breath or anything, but the energy in the vidoc does give me hope for the first time in a while.

[@JonStark117]

*I was very happy to hear that the Havoc Plug-In which was one of the primary sources for the physics of the Halo Franchise can easily be implemented into Unreal Engine 5.*

[@zeumai]

I don't think the age of the engine really matters. If we're saying that the version of Blam in Infinite is 23 years old, then Unreal Engine is 26 years old. The real problem with Blam is that 343 couldn't attract the technical talent to support it. The fact that they've dropped the engine altogether instead of making themselves more appealing to engine devs doesn't fill me with confidence.

[@blackdog6969]

There's reasons why it does matter. Main being how both engines were iterated on. Blam is a proprietary engine that had bits of code tacked on over time to be used by 2, maybe 3 studios. Essentially it becomes a bottleneck and newer devs will struggle to find how Bungie worked around the quirks. Unreal on the otherhand, has had dedicated support and availability to the masses while each iteration (I believe with exception of 5) being worked on from the ground up. I also don't think Blam is gone either as UE can integrate other engines as a plugin for things like physics and AI

[@zeumai]

@@blackdog6969 This is a good point. Using Unreal makes it a lot easier to hire and train people. On the other hand, it also makes it a lot easier to give people 18-month contracts and fire people who've been with the company for a long time. There were Bungie engine devs who'd been there for 10+ years by the time they finished Reach. Epic may have good support staff for Unreal, but nothing can beat working in the same office as the people who built the engine you're using. That said, I do think it's possible to make a good Halo game in UE5. Your point about plugins is interesting, and it does seem like they would make it possible to replicate the feel of a Halo game pretty faithfully. I'm just sad that yet another unique, historically important game engine is being replaced by Unreal. The presentation mentioned that they want Halo to be a technological showcase again, and I think that by abandoning their proprietary technology they have made that less likely than ever.

[@blackdog6969]

@@zeumai Great points that I didn't even consider. Hopefully current management will push for long term hires but you're right, it does make it easier for MS to justify the short term contracts. It is disappointing that a lot of games are losing their technological uniqueness but I suppose as they get larger every release, it makes sense to have standardised toolkits.

[@Mophead64]

@@blackdog6969oh my days, a perfectly reasonable and pleasant conversation with people complimenting each other on good points raised by the other?!?!?

[@sierra121cyan]

@@zeumai They're a game studio, it makes sense that they want to hire more game devs than game *engine* devs. I personally think outsourcing their engine to a group that is specifically designed around developing the engine more effectively is good- like a first handshake out to other companies, hopefully to be followed with them outsourcing more things to other companies (like DLC maps were in the past) so they can focus more on making the game with all its content and making it fun for us on launch.

[@Champe19]

Microsoft still gonna find a way to f**k this up.

[@valkyrie283]

Honestly I just… I can’t. Until they prove themselves, I’m not hyped or excited for anything happening with Halo. It’s not even a conscious decision, I just feel… I don’t have any hope for Halo’s future until I see it with my own eyes.

[@darreny1375]

I?... I am a MONUMENT... To all your sins...

[@lo-rez]

I've felt the same since Halo 4 dropped.

[@valkyrie283]

@@lo-rez That’s about where it started for me too

[@JozaMan-t6n]

My hope is maybe in 6 years after theyve ruined it yet again and they finally decide to terminate more than half the staff

[@ThommyofThenn]

I saw a vid on this last night but this is the channel i really wanted to see do a take video on these events. Pretty big news!

[@norsethenomad5978]

I don’t understand the hype. They didn’t say they were changing their hiring model, they never said anything about story or gameplay. Just a rebrand for a company thats had its name dragged through the mud and swapping to a new engine that better suits their 18 month contract hiring patterns

[@speedyazi5029]

Unreal alone should be a sign they are willing to make big changes. But we’ll see. Unreal does allow for more talent to be taken in and also is much easier to make and fix games with.

[@antoine121]

The Staff that made all the 343 halo games leadership are gone. They said there changing the recipe for how halo games are made.

[@IceSki117]

For me, the important thing to see come out of this is how well the new team can make the UE5 engine match the feel that the Slipspace/Blaam engine had. If they can make the new games have the same feeling as the old ones, I will be more open to experiencing and judging how the new games rate.

[@Ratkill9000]

@@IceSki117 Heres the thing, theres a LOT of games using the Unreal Engine and that means theres a larger talent pool to pull from if they need people to come in to work on the game. It's not some one off proprietary engine that takes a while to train on. I think there is a rumor that a lot of people are going to be on 18 month contracts but that could have been something else all together.

[@ToaDrakua]

For that, we have to be thankful that enough of the Halo engine's core features have the possibility of being ported over directly due to shared scripting language.

[@ToaDrakua]

@@Ratkill9000 That was something more from when Halo Infinite was in development.

[@emergency_broadcast_system]

There were many problems with the halo games made under 343. A rebrand of the studio with different leadership and a new engine likely wont be enough to bring Halo's head above the water again. I hope I'm wrong and if nothing else, a remake of the original trilogy in unreal engine could be good so long as it isnt sanitized.

[@fulgrimventris8506]

I'll save my optimism until after they make a game that isn't awful.

[@werewolfwerewolfwere]

Halo 4 was a hard stopping point for me and 343i, they proved they didn't care about the story Bungie left them. Just recently started playing Infinite. I haven't played the story yet, but I've heard it's a banger on Mute. Hopefully, Halo Studios won't keep repeating the same mistakes of 343i.

[@maube8007]

Glasslands was the first sign something was very wrong.

[@BigHeadClan]

Story was the most disappointing part of the game for me. But hey if you enjoy it great enjoy what you want to enjoy. What do you mean “on mute” though?

[@werewolfwerewolfwere]

@@BigHeadClan "on mute" as in the volume setting, I think I heard it as a joke in some review, but I can't recall which.

[@BigHeadClan]

@@werewolfwerewolfwere ya I got that just trying to figure out why, my guess the audio logs which get pretty annoying? Oh well a mystery for another day.

[@marcmichaud1643]

Slow down everyone: 1) Is this a legitimate new stupid or 343 just being renamed and rebranded? 2) Multiple projects? Are we doing "Not Helldivers 3" ODST2? 3) Are we shipping a finished product? Co-Op, Split-Screen, Forge, Firefight on day 1? No Live Service? Seriously, they should look to Space Marine 2 on how to release a game and roadmap it's future. Wait? Didn't games do this 10-15 years ago? Let's go back to that. Extreme caution, with a hint of optimism is where I am.

[@daammobandito7961]

As for point 1, considering most of the people who were involved in 4-Infinite are gone it kind of already was a new studio in the last couple of years. This name change just reflects that. New leadership, new MO, new structure (3 head honchos in charge of different things rather than the 1 who had to handle EVERYTHING), pretty much a new studio entirely. So yeah, for all intents and purposes, it may not be entirely new, but it is 99% new compared to the team that had made all those mistakes over the years. 2, not entirely sure what you're getting at tbh, my apologies XD 3, only time will tell. That said, Pierre, the head of head honchos, was pretty successful in making MCC a more finished project than it had ever been, same with Infinite once he took over, so I have cautious hope.

[@thesthep]

Imagine, a live service, online ,6 player fireteams of ODSTs, Helldivers 2 style, fighting off the covenant from each planet, securing objectives and watching fleet wide space battles as you drop feet first into hell

[@richardwilmer4550]

Humanity didn’t not fight off the covenant, they stalled them.

[@KAISERaw17]

@@richardwilmer4550imagine what they described but it’s literally a fight for survival lol

[@Matt_of_the_mountains]

No live service. I just want a game with a good campaign and split screen co-op.

[@noble00006]

Please refrain from ever using the term "Live service" in a positive light ever, thanks.

[@FLAM1nWaffl3x]

It's insane everyone is treating this like it's a brand new company

[@Halfrightfox]

Im excited with a side of a healthy amount of skepticism. The halo franchise deserves nothing less than being treated with the utmost respect because, to the fans, it is a sacred piece of video game history and culture. But to corporations, nothing seems sacred anymore.

[@tatewinters5565]

@@Halfrightfox Like how the bigger ingredient comes first in the ingredients list, the main thought to this announcement should be skepticism not excitement. They did not acknowledge anything substantial that would warrant any trust. And in this day and age i wouldnt put it past them to artificially generate hype by scattering bots into the comments section to influence the public's perception of this game. What the con artists behind 343 did is wrong. They are the bad guys. And anyone who went along with them are just as bad. You may think im being dramatic but once you understand exactly who's running the show then you know. This announcement stinks of their filth. Unless something like a miracle happens this game is already marked for dead.

[@tatewinters5565]

You should be 99% skepticle. This company is run by the same types of people. They have an agenda

[@Mrmagoo1077]

I dont think its possible for a big corporate game maker to give the franchise what it needs. The financial incentives of the current industry are directly at odds with making good games. Not saying it cant happen, it does, but never at the full potential. When the vast majority of a games income came from point of sale, the studios were incentivized to make the games as good as they could. Every bit of development time was aimed at making the product better. Now too much development time is squandered on micro transactions, subscription services and other revenue generating systems. Which directly hurts game design. We get shiny graphics but shallow predatory games.

[@qruontavierevans1471]

​@tatewinters5565 what is the agenda?

[@tatewinters5565]

@@qruontavierevans1471 To be blunt. To enslave humanity. The dei policies, "aiming to foster inclusion", ultimately undermines performance in the company. So their products and services go into decline. Their target customer becomes dissatisfied then morale goes down by whatever degree. If its one company its not really a big deal but nearly all the big companies have this issue. Add them all up and it slowly rots the society they work in. A demoralized society is an easily controlled populace. Or their agenda is to "to do their best by being their authetic self". What do i know

[@IVolutionI]

I love how the whole community knows better than to say we're back lol

[@IwinMahWay]

Imagine a halo reach like game but during the finale of forerunner flood war. From the beginning you know the end.

[@EastlakeRasta7]

At that point you might as well just play Warframe 🤦🏾

[@IwinMahWay]

@@EastlakeRasta7 might as well just play destiny 🤦

[@theseus1362]

Same studio different name. Looking forward to seeing what they've got

[@117johnpar]

Its just the Lucy and Charlie football bit, Its just more entertaining the more times it happens.

[@rogue050]

nothing's changed with Microsoft, agreed

[@ek_design]

I love your laidback gentlemanly take on things.

[@joshuaneal8501]

I am cautiously optimistic

[@gjtrue]

Same here. Very much so. . .

[@Zantsmith]

I think you need to remember that the team is still mostly made up of 343 it's just optic rebrand...

[@Stuntmachine14]

I want to be optimistic, but man we've been here before

[@captainnicehd5768]

Ultimately, while I think the rebranding and switch to Unreal are probably steps in the right direction, what really needs to happen is for Halo to ditch Microsoft's self-destructive hiring policies concerning contract workers. A game development studio can't really built institutional knowledge if the people doing the actual work are automatically let go after six months. The switch to Unreal means that new contractors don't have to spend half their time learning how to use a proprietary engine from scratch, but it still doesn't fix the root problem that a revolving workforce will keep making the same stupid mistakes without a chance to properly learn from them. Knowledge can not be effectively built upon, nor talent cultivated. Not to mention it's ruinous for morale. Game development is an inherently creative endeavor, and treating the workers as disposable, interchangeable cogs is not a good way to get the most out of their creative talents.

[@reecey1504]

This.

[@ryuhayabusa3302]

They're never fixing the contractor issue unfortunately.

[@JohnnyTightlips2007]

Yeah, pretty certain that rebranding it won't fix the in house problems.

[@ianquyck9834]

Yes, Halo is very pretty looking in Unreal Engine. But this rebrand is just a cloak over a dead body; it’s still 343i with a different name and a few new faces. I have 100% confidence this franchise will continue to be mismanaged. They have left me jaded.

[@117johnpar]

4th reboots the charm.

[@psychobilly42069]

My favorite part of big halo news is sitting down with you over a glass about it brother, keep being the best halo channel on here man

[@psychobilly42069]

Honestly tho, gotta give halo credit for still sticking with the blam engine well into 2025 (since infinite ain't over yet) that's honestly a good run with a homebrew engine

[@MyCoolStrawSir]

I really hope the guy who was turning Halo in to vr was actually being used to make Halo VR. I hope they are still making Halo VR if it was ever being worked on

[@kiana_kaslana12]

Don't get hyped it's 343 under a new mask wake up people and halo was never competitive

[@ParagonFury]

Honestly, my only issue with the engine switch announcement is gunplay. Gunplay is the defining feature of Halo (and Destiny, the game it shares an engine with). It's the reason why Halo (and Destiny) have survived so long despite so many missteps. And no one, no dev nor any modder, has ever been able to make Unreal not feel like Unreal. Unreal feels so much like Unreal that even when you completely switch genres to something like fighting games or JRPG, you can immediately tell by the feel of the controls "Yep, this is an Unreal game".

[@darienattano1272]

What are you on about?

[@RebelOfTheNorm242]

I know exactly what you mean, so let's see

[@heavysniper3o3]

I wish the series would end... I can't handle another setback..

[@SpaceWraith131]

Between halo and gears of war, i think it's been shown that these legacy series don't translate well to an open world formula. There's nothing wrong with a linear style setup, the forest level from metro exodus is a good example of how to set up a linear map with open world feeling.

[@117johnpar]

They renamed the incompetence completely out of the studio. Im sure of it this time.

[@karthiksubramanian2279]

Arbiter: "We trade one studios for another" I hope, Halo Studios bring back the classic era of Halo, without 343i's incompetence and Microsoft's constant interference.

[@MGrabowski70]

Changing the engine to something easier and more widely understood is a great start. I actually loved infinite when it first came out. The gameplay was the perfect balance of old halo feel with modern improvements. Problem was lack of content and updates and it sounds like a major part of it was working with a busted engine that no one understood and made releasing a minor update an impossible task. Hopefully they can give us more maps, game modes and get rid of the awful challenges for an actual progression system.

[@fokkerside210]

They just changed the name from 343 to Halo

[@DeceiverIX]

Unless they've cleaned house, it's the exact same studio.

[@falloutgamer347]

They did have massive layoffs quite recently, i dont remember when but it was around a year back i think. So i think its mostly people they have hired after that who have so far just updated infinite. Im cautiously optimistic about the next games they are making and im willing to give them a chance. So far it seems good though, well just have to see how it goes

[@acrustykrab]

it's different, Pierre worded it well, saying they are changing the recipe. The employees were always skilled

[@Kap_Kay]

@DeceiverIX They did clean house, 3 rounds of layoffs, and 90% of the old management is gone. The new guy in charge is the guy that fixed MCC

[@pixels_per_minute]

They have. New studio leads and mass lay-offs over the last 2 years. Now, the name change, since 343i has been forever stained by the incompetence of the last studio leads.

[@SpottedHares]

They cleaned house like a year plus ago. It was big news on all the halo channels were you just not paying attention

[@WalrusWinking]

Watch them make a new game where Cortana wakes chief up and Halo 4-infinite was all just a dream. I'm not gonna say bad dream just dream. The 343 games had some awesome moments and ideas. Like running around as chief in Halo 4 you really FELT like a 7 foot tall metal man.

[@RedCommunistDragon]

Hope they don’t do that. Franchises that decanonized/recons previous entries and start new continuities typically get far worse. Looking at you, Halloween and Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

[@williamklemp3764]

​@@RedCommunistDragon I definitely agree with you, but I'm pretty sure they've written themselves into a corner, in terms of convoluted storylines, retcons of their own, and bad story boarding. A dream is Def the wrong way to go about bringing things back, but I can't imagine going forward without some major retcons and a fair amount of cannon-jiggling to get back on track.

[@RedCommunistDragon]

@@williamklemp3764 As convoluted as 343’s trilogy is, there’s still several ways to fix it without a series of recons. Such as making the Humans and Forerunners have the same ancestry, so use they won’t have to recon the H4 Forerunners (which started with the terminals in Halo 3), while also keeping the idea of Humans also being Forerunners, as implied in Halo: CE and 2. There’s several other things they could do, but is the most prominent one.

[@brucemaximus3797]

Look, if they had the balls to do it and then followed up with a fantastic story, I'd jump into that bandwagon with both feet.

[@ToaDrakua]

@@RedCommunistDragon Funnily enough, they _did_ explore the shared ancestry angle extensively, but it was all in books that had nothing to do with the plot of the games up to that point.

[@deathbunny1718]

Heroes live with a symbol, villains hide behind a name.

[@justindurfee9375]

As far as the Halo CE remake, I would like to experience the stories of Chief and the other _Autumn_ survivors in "The Flood" by William Dietz until their reunion, at which point the narrative of the original game would resume. In Halo 2, I would like to see a screen rendition of the _Autumn_ survivors' fight to commandeer the Covenant ship _Ascendant Justice_ in their effort to return to Earth and a radio communication of the ODST insertion prior to the _Day of Jubilation_ jumping to Delta Halo, alluding to the events of Halo: ODST. As for title order, I would like to see the games titled in order of occurrence. 1) Halo: Contact Harvest 2) Halo: Spirit of Fire (first-person rendition of _Halo Wars_ told through the eyes of Spartan Red Team, each level being a mission from the original) 3) Halo: Out of Reach 4) Halo: Combat Evolved 5) Halo: Threshold (first-person rendition of "First Strike") 6) Halo 2 (ODST should be included a side story that starts at the end of "New Mombasa" and ends with the _In Amber Clad's_ arrival at Delta Halo) 7) Halo 3 8) Halo: The Banished (first-person rendition of _Halo Wars 2_ told through the eyes of Spartan Red Team, each level being a mission from the original) 9) Halo 4 10) Halo 5: Guardians 11) Halo 6: Reclaimer 12) Halo Infinite

[@TheNamesFrost17]

the game looks GREAT but I hope they don't pay all their attention on the maps and graphics and what not, I hope they work on the armor where you can add whatever you want to your character, also I hope they bring back the female characters like what you talked about on the female "assets" like in halo 5, btw whens the next video on MJLNOR????

[@HandsomeLongshanks]

343 isnt gone. They just rebranded to whatever theyre calling themselves now. Dont get too hyped. They're gonna deliver a shit game. If they do, congrats, you saw it coming. If they dont, then praise them. Do NOT give them the hypetrain until they fucking earn it and using UE5 isnt enough for them to deserve it.

[@1337GameDev]

The only thing that would restore my confidence is this: 1. MS are hands off for internal operations and only minorly steer direction 2. The studio can make a profitable project, without having to make the "most profitable" project as that's usually not the best game but the game that focuses on whales 3. The ability for the studio to have a more informal workflow -- small groups for features/games and less rigid "we need 2 weeks for just the design document for this new menu and sizes of buttons" 4. A focus on LAUNCH day quality and focus on best quality while being profitable -- treating the IP like Nintendo treats mario/zelda. Until I can safely just say "Oh, a halo game! I know i can buy it and just enjoy" halo won't be back.

[@boredtruckerstoriesforgame4006]

Installation 00 is the only source of halo content that genuinely feels like proper Halo content.

[@jrwilliams4029]

I will remain skeptical about a studio that has a DEI hire, Chief of Staff Boone with no video game experience and was clearly chosen just for identity political reasons.

[@survivormandan8576]

343 only changed their Gamertag.

[@theInsaneCashew]

PR stunt. It's a big sign that they're using music from the most hated Halo game.

[@zachariousoftroy]

"I am 343! The voice of the current state of Halo!" "And so... you must be silenced" *incredibly satisfying death scene*

[@insanewelshy]

What a perfect way to showcase what they can do with the ue5 by remaking halo ce with it will be instantly like by everyone and gives them real chance to see what works and not have to waste time on story arcs and focus solely on what this engine can do for halo

[@Nara.Shikamaru]

There better be Halo 7 and not just a remake, because this story needs to see an ending to the current arc. One thing I would like is if the new team really dug into the backlog of characters and narratives in the books. I think if Atriox found a portal to the ark on Zeta Halo, and we can access it, the UNSC on Zeta Halo can rendezvous with Red Team, the Spirit of Fire, and the remaining Ferrets. The Ark is where a lot of the story could be headed. It won’t be hard for Arbiter to find out that fucked shit is happening on the Ark. This series can end in one big finale, even larger than Halo 3. The flood are on the ark too. The endless seem to want the Mantle, which would lead them to the Ark as well. Within the next entry or two we could see some CRAZY shit if only they’d just read some halo books. This could be our opportunity for the Avengers: Endgame of Halo.

[@Mrmagoo1077]

The story ended with Halo 3 (with Reach and ODST being part of the story). 343's story is just bad fan fiction.

[@theoldman5896]

Why? The story is awful.

[@Agora2021]

I'd rather they scrapped everything 343i did and start back from where Halo 3 left off.

[@Mrmagoo1077]

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[@darwinodriscoll7750]

@@Agora2021exactly

[@timfusco365]

3rd person? No. We've been asking for SPLIT SCREEN CO-Op!

[@ThommyofThenn]

8:30 You'd think the corpos would realise it serves their profits BETTER if they stay out of the creative process. Is it a hubris thing? You'd think if they wanted more money they would let the creatives do their thing. All they have to do is keep out of the artistic end of things and rake in the cash, while the players end up with a superior product they are immensely more likely to spend more money on. It's a win win

[@bigdaddynero]

Would Microsoft really authorize a studio restructuring and rebrand if their handling of Halo were unchanged? And contrary to your rumor, it has been widely expressed that 343i worked autonomously from Microsoft and that a large portion of the issues were solely due to 343i's unaccountability I find it hard to believe that many of the issues with 343i, aside from hiring practices, were due to direct Microsoft interference. EDIT: And to add something else, Microsoft has been unilaterally responsible for some of the most iconic aspects of OG Halo. Really confused as to why you spent so much time articulating the faults of Microsoft instead of the people they hired to do a job

[@officerponch3741]

This new management team has my interest in halo again. I hope they stand their ground against Microsoft executives and the community is vocal in their support of it. Otherwise we might go right back to the 343 quality of games (except halo wars 2. That’s was refreshing) Just the thoughts and rambles of an og trilogy fan

[@octopunch9300]

This doesnt count as good news until we have a good game in hand. Fingers crossed though

[@ScribblyProductions]

5:40 Word for word my thoughts, couldn't have said it better myself.

[@chipsdubbo5.56]

22:30 Like you said, I think there's a possibility they might remake the original trilogy. I think that would be awesome, especially adding in cut content and that would give them time to decide what direction they want to go with continuing the story or maybe retcon halo 4-Infinite....

[@thecatfather857]

How 'bout no retcons or remakes? I want something new, not a nostalgia trip.

[@omegamobius0174]

@@thecatfather857 I agree, people keep clamoring for remakes and it's not gonna bring back the same feeling the originals had no matter how hard we try. Treading the same ground over and over when there's a whole universe of possibilities is so boring to me

[@darwinodriscoll7750]

I can honestly see a remake happening just with extra levels, more lore etc. what I do want is to redo halo 4 and the others because the story makes absolutely no sense and I don’t have a clue wtf is going on anymore

[@FranFyrhart]

"This stench, I've smelled it before." In all honesty, I'll reserve all judgement when I play the next game. No excitement, but no pessimism.

[@usuallydopesvsc]

THE RETURN OF THE VIDOC HAS GIVEN ME FAITH Benefit of using UE: You don't have to train people on proprietary software, your potential hiring pool just multiplied by 1000

[@johnbeatty8339]

Damn, here's hoping this campaign is going to be good.

[@chloeholmes4641]

It sucks that Halo Canon is gone, I wish they could come back and hoping their life is better! 😔

[@halogrimfall3173]

Just dropping in here instillation00 we are still around and developement and we still watch your videos gladto see big change is to come it will make our production a lot easier hopefully they up the build limit in forge allowing us to create something legendary

[@Zeltalu]

Im glad you got into comp halo a little bit and glad to see it gaining support from general fans.

[@bladehenge63]

Like many I'm definitely cautiously optimistic. I can feel the kid inside me that was always excited for the Halo 3 ViDocs, but I don't dare hold to hope after Infinite...

[@Anckermann]

The corporate suits at Microsoft should grant the Halo team (or whatever) the same creative freedom that forged Bungie's Halos. 343 games were just corporate whinings, put money to make money. Let go of the chains and Halo will re-emerge, or shut it down completely, leaving the MCC as a monument of what Halo should be; the community will pick up the remains as is already doing. I hope this is not just a rebranding, but expectations are at the lowest, as they have been for the past 13 years.

[@MightyMork]

Bundie had to be kept on a leash by MS or nothing would have got done, does nobody remember the stories about the development of Halo 2? Just look at Bungie when they were on their own, they nearly went under and had to be bought, let's not pretend Bungie were amazing by themselves, they created their best work under corporate structure. 343 was ruined Bonnie and her cronies, and Phil took too long to get rid of her due to their friendship.

[@bigfoot9049]

It was all just a bad dream, Chief wakes up on the Forward unto Dawn.

[@The_Elite_Emerald]

I really just want to know what happened to Lasky. I really like his character especially after watching Forward Unto Dawn

[@chaosknight9131]

If there was any time to help with the story making process It is now Shoot your shot Installion00

[@jdoxpears]

Imagine if they took the foundry as a test bed, as an explorable painting of sorts. Allow players to run round, interact with objects, forerunner structures and learn lore about those specific things. Like Assassins Creeds discovery mode. So not a game but, something halo related to keep the fire alive

[@blacktemplarbrotherlucius1935]

My hope is that the rebrand is the effected that the company is in better hands or at least more capable hands, essentially marking a new era for Halo.

[@alteredendeavor]

I don't think it's obvious that corporate oversight is a bad thing. I think you need a healthy balance because unchecked creativity can lead to excessive budgets, a lack of a road map, and misreads on the market. Look at what happened with RedFall. Totally unchecked and the game was a bomb.

[@KevinKoolx]

Switching to Unreal will be massive for Halo so we can have experiences to play

[@SpaceWraith131]

In this age of remakes, if they're not going to be on par with how resident evil or final fantasy are, then they should stick with a simple remaster.

[@JohnVmc2]

The only corporate interference Microsoft did to harm 343 was having no corporate interference at all. You're wasting your time by trying to imply that there is hope or creativity to be have into this generation of soy devs.

[@teamdoghouse82880]

Genuinely, I hope the future holds spectacular things for not only the franchise, but for you, the content creators, and by extension to all that, for us. The fans that hold onto hope for a bright future for the franchise many of us have loved since the release of Halo Combat Evolved back in 2001. Here's to a bright future and new content for us all. I can't deny that I am a bit skeptical, but I choose to be optimistic.

[@bombasticbadassbrigade3552]

This engine change and rebranding to Halo Studios absolutely goes to show how much of a vital lifeline Joe Staten was to 343 to course correct Halo Infinite. With deepest sincerity - Thank you Joe.

[@scifiswordsman]

Probably a dream, but here is my wish: They convert Infinite to Unreal, and they fully lift 00's plan for 10 yrs. of Infinite. Maybe they have him voice a small recurring character in the game, like a monitor or human AI that we interact with occasionally.

[@l1teralcanc3r78]

"The hopes of all the faithful rest on your shoulders, chieftain"

[@frank-b6169]

Same company y’all. Stay hydrated and GOD bless.

[@eodyn7]

It literally isn't. The least you could do is at least try and pay attention.

[@williamphillips1137]

“Slow is smooth, smooth is fast” Ooooh Rah

[@michaelwong3264]

I know this is a good thing, but I still find it funny that by switching to the Unreal Engine, Halo Studios have decided to save Halo by making Halo less Halo. Again, not a criticism! Wish Bungie does the same with their Tiger Engine on Destiny.

[@FlakFactory]

Nothing gona change lol same studio different name

[@blackdog6969]

15:03 The Blam engine is even older than 23. It started development in *1997* and I believe was used for the Macworld demo in 1998. Blam/Slipspace is a 90s kid. Let that sink in. So yeah, the switch to UE5 is a welcome one as long as they can pull off the right feeling of Halo. I believe they can import components of Blam straight into UE, so I doubt it'll be the end of the engine as a whole, but more taking a back seat

[@keeganfox1864]

Yeah i think another commenter mentioned that they could use components of the old engine for stuff like physics and AI to try and keep things as close to halo as possible while still running the newer engine for the high end stuff like rendering and generation