3900 ATK Kaki With 1600 DEF, One Shots EVERYTHING?! - Summoners War

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[@xenigma1414]

Imagine this build on old kaki

[@wqweqwet1804]

Oh god that would be crazy.

[@raki_raki]

200k s2 easily in this scenario

[@Seiishizo]

Oeff that would be so nasty

[@marijnlastname3132]

tbh a kaki like this would be good as shit in a leo offense as well

[@Seiishizo]

Yep kaki can work well in those.

[@harveyevangelista9206]

Deborah owners our little secret has been found by Seii

[@r3dd09]

What other teams are you running?

[@svencollister2355]

Sad life, now everyone knows and can prep their defs for it

[@MegaKenny9]

@@svencollister2355no lol. This offense is strong but dot teams and Leah teams are more prevalent so people will still be susceptible to this one. Why counter this specific offense when other people run those much more you know

[@svencollister2355]

@@MegaKenny9 im missing leah, so fine with me lol

[@MaelZack]

Kaki post nerf might get another post nerf…. XD😂

[@jr7413]

great video this helped me improve mine! got rid of guard offset for fight on kaki and tiana and dbl fight will on galleon and way more dmg thx!

[@davefk7]

I’ve been playing exactly this off since Deborah came out and it’s really op. Almost everything without spd lead is food for this off

[@mariussim138]

Since I don't have Deborah I use the zaiross galleon tiana pungbaek against no spd lead teams it works very well!

[@Seiishizo]

yep very much true

[@Unapologetic-oe5zt]

Lol these videos are pretty fun to watch bro. Thanks for making it

[@Seiishizo]

Thanks ^.^

[@VIRGiiiG]

Man. I've been using this offense from the moment I got Deborah. It's been so much fun and I could hit punisher for the first time.

[@jaredbrown1128]

I run joegun lead, kaki, kabilla and light tea bunny. Bunny's aoe increase cooldown, def break plus on despair. Joegun strip cant be countered, plus can temporarily remove a threat to start out 4 v 3.

[@gabrielblox_br1395]

Without tiana Nothing works for me 😂 Btw does that team lands everything constantly for You?

[@nanwang4852]

​@@gabrielblox_br1395 No, mathematically only 52% of the time would Jeogun strip all 4 units, and then the same rate for landing all def breaks. Not really a reliable team.

[@Seiishizo]

nice team if everything lands yea

[@jaredbrown1128]

I'm only F3-C1 lol, so not every opponent team is full will, frequently no will. Sometimes joegun is just for the atk buff. I've gone 18-7 in inter server with this team, so it does ok. Only really suffers against 33% SPD lead. I have all the units for the team in the video, I'll give it a shot. @Seiishizo, I appreciate the reply 🙏

[@hamza9460]

@@jaredbrown1128literally everything works in c1-c3

[@inuyasha2029]

Bro i love this. I actually got every unit here. This gives me hope pls no nerfs.

[@Seiishizo]

haha don't expect any nerfs

[@five8501]

Wow that damage is so insane 😮

[@potatomatop9326]

Grogen: he's still bruised af after i decimated him Kaki: oh no... Nigong: bring it on, i can do this all day.

[@dub-dy7uo]

CD build on monk since they crit on everything. even in kinki i think. or highest possible stats on damage based on stats monsters

[@Skaumi112]

Next monster to maybe try: byungchul on damage build. I wonder how much dmg he can do with the right setup

[@Seiishizo]

haha interesting one, can give it a try

[@benjaminmesserer2471]

Please try Christina teams or Leah tems next. Great content Seii. Love it

[@Seiishizo]

Yea those will be fun to test as well:)

[@elda4349]

I only play this off in arena i hit G1, and i have little tips deborah need to move front of galion for Camilla

[@Seiishizo]

Yep would be a lot better

[@cristalmyth09]

once again, i have been reminded that my kaki isnt built to his highest potential

[@CythicG]

I love using Kaki, he is very reliable 😁

[@forsaken1337]

Would be cool to see how high a Bael could hit with top end runes - im early to mid and can get him nuking practically everything possible!

[@Seiishizo]

Wrote down bael on my list :)

[@gabrielblox_br1395]

Seii What if u switched galleon for mirian? Its a bit risky agaisnt cami but def buff also makes kaki stronger.

[@Seiishizo]

Yep would do more dmg for sure. but also way slower animation :P

[@MrEnzoPuttini]

I use, for general atk, Praliné leader, Tiana, Luer and Pungbaek (that could be Kaki)

[@Seiishizo]

Pretty nice team to yea!

[@katiemilku]

I use this team with my Grogen, but it might be worth trading it out for Kaki, since Grogen hasn't been doing great with recent ADs.

[@teol2950]

can use both, grogen runes != kaki runes :)

[@Seiishizo]

yep teol is true. kaki uses pretty different runes than grogen. and grogen is great with we kinda get a psama meta back

[@BoyButarbutar]

that kaki even faster than my s2 spd lushen

[@mauarkantos]

You could use this with miriam if you dont have deborah (and its give def buff also)

[@Seiishizo]

correct

[@KoKoxDD]

Amber next? You could literally use the same build they removed her spd scaling and 1 extra hit but the atk scaling is still there

[@Seiishizo]

Issue is her multipliers on the s2 isn't that high

[@sherlholmesyt7077]

just a question: wouldn't it be better to use miriam in this combo? she strengthens atk+def buff and gives def buff which gives kaki additional stats/damage + fire def leader skill

[@Seiishizo]

Yep would have been stronger

[@User1af]

Thats so much Bro

[@IceSlash]

I feel like Tiana Bastet/megan Carmella and Kaki could work, since carmellas def break is irresistible and double atk bar boost allowing kaki to be even slower than when tiana is only atk bar booster

[@dadrunk5213]

And megan would supply def boost for even more damage for kaki due to his extra damage from def

[@alphahippo]

@@dadrunk5213 defbuff does not increase kakis dmg, only the def he has from the start of the battle increases his atkpower. that means a deflead/determination set will increase his dmg but any further increase of def within the battle does not increase the dmg

[@dadrunk5213]

@@alphahippo “Increases your Defense by 20% of your Attack Power when the battle begins, and inflicts additional damage proportional to your Defense when you attack on your turn. Critical Hits won't occur when attacking the enemy. [Automatic Effect]”

[@dadrunk5213]

@@alphahippo based off that, its “additional damage based off your defence when you attack on your turn”. So def break would lower attack and def buff would increase it slightly. I’ll test it right now and edit this soon. Edit: just tested and i had a 5k dmg increase with def buff from megan.

[@Seiishizo]

Camella is very nice, only issue is landing defbreak on waters

[@luckasneo2089]

i use tiana kaki with truffle and the fire blacksmith.

[@Seiishizo]

Very strong setup to yea

[@Yoschi24]

I use the same team but i use ongy insteat of kaki, but ongy has +3100 atk and he does 96k dmg. Tiana is on swift fight, gal 3x fight

[@jinny7963]

Tiana gally debo ongy?

[@Seiishizo]

Yea i think ongy is super strong for this still.

[@jinny7963]

@@Seiishizo you don't think his passive cleanse needs a tweak?

[@user-hu5qp2yp3h]

Bro casually testing out units at G2😂😅

[@smeeeheeee]

I'd love to see Sige since it was the event HoH. (maybe Tosi if you think Tosi is better)

[@Seiishizo]

To my knowledge their dmg was always kind of disapointing :

[@smeeeheeee]

@@Seiishizo that's a shame 😔

[@wodidia]

As an Ongyouki owner, I see no reason to use Ongyouki vs Kaki. Ongyouki's passive is very situational and stun immunity means nothing when other debuffs work on him anyway (+dots can kill him out of passive). Ongyouki, despite being nat 5, seems very off-placed.

[@gabrielblox_br1395]

Yeah pal idk what com2us smoked to even think about nerfing him.

[@Seiishizo]

I think ongi still does more dmg on same set, but i could be wrong on that.

[@TheRbsnoopy]

As a owner that had him before nerf i agree shits wild

[@fabriciobarbosa5246]

My rush is similar, however Hanwul in place of Kaki lmao

[@altsmoke3322]

Hey Seii. What could I use in case I don't have either Deborah or Poseidon?

[@Seiishizo]

Hmm Gany is an option or CP. something with pushbacks make it kind of safe

[@altsmoke3322]

​@@SeiishizoThank you very much for the advise. I don't have gany but I luckily have Cheong so I'm 100% gonna give it a shot

[@ryumaniarail9532]

I still wanna see a God Runed shumar some day but i doubt that is gonna happen till he gets his 2A. T-T

[@Seiishizo]

haha would be funny :)

[@Unapologetic-oe5zt]

What do you think about the fire and water mercenary queens?

[@Seiishizo]

Hmm water is used sometimes in siege def/off, but fire seems kinda meh

[@R0m0n3]

BIG Kaki energy #BBK

[@skykingtv7671]

could you try to do a full damage kalantatze ?

[@noks234]

Imagine old kaki. Holy shit

[@Seiishizo]

Yea would be very nutty

[@ARivanw]

kaki , leah , cybork fire , triss fire , water cookie that can freeze

[@crkTyphoon]

and how would that team of 5 units work in arena, RTA, or any guild content?

[@MonkeyDKizu]

@@crkTyphoon i was wondering the same but he's probably answering sei's question of what unit to test next

[@clubskitzhardstyle]

Anyone know the conversion rates of def to atk vs stacking attack?

[@dhimasae3618]

Kaki on fatal with almost 3k att, 800 deff, and 101 spd or vio with 2,2k att, 516 deff, and 154 spd??

[@Seiishizo]

as nuker fatal always, as bruiser for longer fights then vio

[@hayden3487]

Would love to see Katarina or wind cannon girl

[@Seiishizo]

Katarina is very RNG for hits. but christina would be a fun one :)

[@hollowzaraki2203]

Could u try the same with Fuuki and Tilasha ? Like Tiana Galleon Tilasha and Fuuki, might be funny aswell

[@Seiishizo]

Might give that a try with byunchul :P

[@hollowzaraki2203]

@@Seiishizo but then you probably want another unit than tilasha i guess

[@cursedadofai]

try christina next

[@crkTyphoon]

replace galle with the fire smith just for the lulz, ez 120-150k clap depending on targets armor

[@Seiishizo]

Yep checked that later did about 130

[@voyya6554]

I would see an unkillable ramagod or something like a despair laïka 100res 😁

[@Seiishizo]

Interesting idea's

[@harshraj5930]

super fast spectra to one shot sonia in rta by skill one

[@Seiishizo]

haha very niche :P

[@tomsparrow6113]

I mean you would kill these byung with a cr Deborah

[@Seiishizo]

True

[@scottstechlab]

the 57k on manon got me

[@Seiishizo]

yea its good to insta clap manon :P

[@billbill997]

kinda nostalgic but how about as much hp as possible ramagod

[@drune2263]

try teshar cleave bro, his damage also insane

[@Seiishizo]

he sure does, however the s3 dmg aoe isn't that much i think.

[@kyubey991]

Is defense buff also increase Kaki's damage?

[@Seiishizo]

yes it does

[@voyya6554]

The water mystical witch wasn't beyter than Gallion ? For def buff :) you could reach the 100k dmg easily 😁

[@Seiishizo]

Yep, thats ture

[@TheBigLeChowski]

Hold up - how does that slot 5 destroy have +37% atk and +12% def? My impression was +32% atk was max 3 roll and 40% is perfect quad, so 37% would have to be a quad roll atk but then how does def reach 12% when max starting stat is 8% and this isn’t even an ancient? What am I missing?

[@MonkeyDKizu]

grinds/gem

[@Seiishizo]

Gems and grinds yes :)

[@user-wp9ms8xq6l]

please build RIGNA (water ele) sir and need info combo team for woonsa (dark ele)

[@Seiishizo]

Woonsa is kinda hard to use in AO, because the moment they go 0 will ur team will fail.

[@mattbrackenbury]

I always use Kaki cleave when fighting these annoying rush defenses with triple Camilla etc

[@Seiishizo]

yep, works very well untill galleon does galleon things :P

[@LootyStuff]

I didn't think the ally runes applied to the unit they are on?

[@teol2950]

"ally" runes, they apply to the whole team, and there should still be something to check the current buffs (pause => top thingy)

[@Seiishizo]

they do for whole team

[@loupelite1882]

Pungbaek next ?

[@Seiishizo]

Maybe :)

[@Flow_121]

Deborah doing 30k dmg by just beeing there is crazy

[@Seiishizo]

Yea it is

[@Flow_121]

@@Seiishizo so tell c2us to give me one 😂

[@Adjnwood8292]

Do water and wind next cause we know how good these omni were when they came out kaki kinki were so dominating among his other brothers😂 sadly they nerf both kaki and kink badly😂😂

[@Seiishizo]

issue is, water needs max stacks, and wind needs low hp :P both kind of an issue :P

[@9595dennis]

Vs Teams that could lap I use Poseidon (L) for S3 push back and fluff dmg. No Deborah.

[@9595dennis]

Nvm u mentioned it.

[@Seiishizo]

^.^ Yep thats one of the more safe teams out there

[@manfredoweber3562]

he has insane multipliers, lets go crit dmg build and oblivion him for his full potential xD

[@Seiishizo]

Its something i might try in the future yea haha

[@SL-bb7gb]

Try dark sniper with best rage runes that you have?

[@Seiishizo]

Does anyone use that unit for antyhing?

[@SL-bb7gb]

@@Seiishizo i saw the youtuber mards use him for giants he dealt like 330k on golem and 2m on dark rift. So i was wondering how much he can deal on g3

[@Zera91590]

you didn't tryed with Miriam to boost kaki even more x)

[@Seiishizo]

true :P

[@kakkasukunimi2335]

Do t2 Leo Christina cleave next

[@Seiishizo]

wrote that one down ^.^

[@WJ-L]

My coms Nepth | Tiana | HongYeon | Kaki / Mir Kaki dealt avg 60k+ AOE Mir dealt avg 50k+ x2 AOE

[@khalilomarbalbon521]

Use Art Master Lead and then deborah as def breaker. You'll shit yourself with the damage he will do.

[@khalilomarbalbon521]

The only issue with Kaki is Trianas passive and Manon paired with reviver. Been using this kind of team but the win rate isn't good.

[@Seiishizo]

Issue is deb is 85% chance to def break which is kinda low

[@khalilomarbalbon521]

@@Seiishizo that too. Her def break fails a lot tbh. Which is why I stopped using this team.

[@nirorit]

Just go with the usual old school slow will cleave team

[@Seiishizo]

Theres so many oldschool teams that can get back in :P

[@JaironMaracayoJ]

Try Deborah+ fire deborah too faster than kaki.

[@Seiishizo]

yea it adds quite some dmg

[@MaelZack]

Oh dear… nerf incoming too xD😂

[@Seiishizo]

haha no don't thinkso

[@TrueHunter999]

Nephtys tiana fire string kaki

[@Seiishizo]

Yep that team is super solid to outspeed most things

[@Myrtlemasta]

now put oblivion on it and see how much a crit will do

[@Seiishizo]

haha Should give that a try

[@Myrtlemasta]

YES YOU DID IT!!

[@eLsain]

my kaki is about the same atk but faster, but the def holy

[@echostone4718]

smh didnt even add cr for the tesa users

[@davicoelhox]

this was just a deborah showcase

[@Seiishizo]

maybe :P

[@moresezer8680]

Tiana galleon double kaki? haha or double galleon just to be sure

[@Seiishizo]

wouldn't recommend that :P better use a different defbreaker then

[@wildcarts3867]

My kaki with +2700 atk dont kill a wind mushroom xD will never understand why others make dmg

[@Seiishizo]

haha, Artifacts :P ? and the def does conut

[@wildcarts3867]

@@Seiishizo artifacts.... Since 2 years i got Not even 1 usefull Rune. Only lowest Rolls and useless Stat comps. Artifacts are biggest fail ever. I never got any usefull. Standard drop: skill2 ACC, DMG Low hp, vamp, DMG taken from x. Never got any eine with 2 compared things.its Like ark Rune with ACC res hpflat

[@Theomars_]

Try Beth + Kaki

[@BlackEyedFish]

with what

[@Seiishizo]

don't have beth skilled

[@Shiki0414]

Where my Kaki😭😂

[@Seiishizo]

next 4star choice event haha

[@Shiki0414]

@@Seiishizo 👌😅

[@VIKRAMLODHI]

try,.. luer, bastet, trinana kaki

[@agungfirmansyahmuhariri2066]

try sleeping unit

[@Seiishizo]

which one?

[@Camero_V]

Kyle AO

[@Seiishizo]

hmm could even work i guess

[@dimasrendrab7]

Need deff buff too

[@Seiishizo]

def buff doesn't work, tried before its only the def that is there at the start of a battle.

[@anthonyfloris980]

​@@SeiishizoOh, interesting. Cuz i wonder why do not try with Miriam. That's why.

[@Skaumi112]

​@@anthonyfloris980miriam still increases the attack so he would deal more dmg if you replace galleon with miriam as attack buffer and deborah as def breaker (unreliable tho)

[@anthonyfloris980]

@@Skaumi112 ye, think about that. But Shei didn't make fast Deb so... However, for the show he could run with Jeogun lead, strip + atk buff.

[@Seiishizo]

Apparently i was wrong, it does work now. (i think it was changed in the past because in the past i think it didn't) However now yes, megan does increase dmg of kaki by the testing i did from about ~20k to 21.5k

[@Demon_is_a_slayer]

Try dragonov

[@Seiishizo]

I;ve heard this suggestion a few times, but what makes him so interesting :O ?

[@Demon_is_a_slayer]

@@Seiishizo so he has hidden aim just like the other snipers but when u do hidden aim he gets about 200% bonus damage and if you kill an enemy with one attack you stay in the hidden aim pose

[@VENOM-qb5uz]

Baal plzzzzz❤ or Wind pioneer ❤

[@Seiishizo]

Written both down in my notes ^.^

[@turbogreasy1632]

taor!

[@Seiishizo]

Hmm what setup?

[@turbogreasy1632]

@@Seiishizo I use tablo tiana galleon/neph taor against slower teams, with taor having a lot of s3 accuracy on artis. Tiana S3 > Galleon S3 > Taor S3 > Tablo S2/3, depending on how much of the control landed from Taor S3. After Tablo, Tiana can finish off with s2 and taor can snipe with squall. You don't need too much speed because the setup gives slow and speed buff before squall is used. My Taor is only at +1500 atk, 65 cr, 190 cd, and +157 speed I'm having a lot of fun with the team so far!

[@NotKilleran]

why share this on broad daylight T.T

[@Seiishizo]

any time of the day is worth sharing ^.^

[@newb4961]

I run a +140 +3100 atk kaki lol

[@Seiishizo]

how much defense?

[@newb4961]

@@Seiishizo a lot less than this one at +450 lol, still kills most things.

[@Seiishizo]

@@newb4961 then it probably could be better optimized :P

[@newb4961]

Probably by reducing spd, i don't want that!

[@lt899]

1st

[@madchickenlol9795]

Seiishizo u bored cuz rta season ended?

[@Seiishizo]

Nah just doing fun stuff :)