“I know what you’re thinking, those do happen to be all prime numbers” nah I wasn’t thinking that
@Paddy6565 жыл бұрын
I don't even know what a prime number is.
@OguriMichiyo5 жыл бұрын
@@Paddy656 Numberphile (a YT channel I've been following for years) has plenty of videos regarding prime numbers. You should check them out! Long story short a prime number can only be divided by itself and by one. So 2,3,5,7,11,13 are some examples.
@paritoshagarwal88405 жыл бұрын
@@OguriMichiyo its a joke . Everyone knows what a prime no is
@GMPranav5 жыл бұрын
@@OguriMichiyo it's joke but I agree about what you said about Numberphile.
@Paddy6565 жыл бұрын
@@OguriMichiyo Don't patronise me, nerd. Everyone laugh at the nerd
@SlackwareNVM5 жыл бұрын
The clicking sound when a point gets hit is really satisfying.
@anshulagrawal6335 жыл бұрын
no it is very annoying a much softer bump sound would be better
@dylogysminter5 жыл бұрын
you are so right i love it!
@timr36825 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the sound of a Geiger counter
@stepexgd66285 жыл бұрын
Go watch 3blue1brown's collision video
@Psi1055 жыл бұрын
@@timr3682 That's why the radiation sign looks like a windmill
@maltml5 жыл бұрын
Came for 3Blue1Brown, stayed for 5Blue5Brown
@unflexian5 жыл бұрын
I'm more of a 4Blue4Brown1Pivot guy myself
@Sooyush5 жыл бұрын
LoL
@SF-fb6lv5 жыл бұрын
That is actually really really good!
@SS-iz9vo5 жыл бұрын
Can someone explain?
@nahina8015 жыл бұрын
@@SS-iz9vo 3Blue1Brown is an inequality (blue doesn't = brown). The solution to this problem was finding the invariant, a constant in this (potentially) chaotic system, which was the number of coloured dots remaining on one side at each dot. The joke was that he came for our maths god, and remained for the solution to the "hardest" question on the IMO, which coincided to be quite an appropriate joke given the choice of colours used for the dots in the video. Hope that was a decent explanation.
@ojotabe34 жыл бұрын
"If a made up windmill prepares you for a real problem, who cares that it's a fiction?" Wise words man
@ifukill75384 жыл бұрын
A constant.... People need to remember this....
@mayurtummewar33124 жыл бұрын
It tells why you do maths
@rajeevagrawal76093 жыл бұрын
@Logan Post +1 and the image was so exquisite, it is my wallpaper now :)
@bait52573 жыл бұрын
F
@babosanders52233 жыл бұрын
that gave me chills. beautiful words
@iamasquidinspace5 жыл бұрын
As a physics student, I really appreciate the take-away message of "look for an invariant". Really good advice!
@JaredJeyaretnam5 жыл бұрын
MiSta BlackJack Me too! I’m about to start a physics PhD and throughout my undergrad nothing has been more important in solving problems than invariants. No surprise that my favourite mathematician is Emmy Noether - whose theorem laid out the basis for finding generalised invariants in physics! Right now I’m working on my masters project (I graduated in July but the project didn’t quite get to where I wanted it too, so I’m putting in some more work this summer) and the one thing that’s really stumping me is calculating a particular sort of invariant called a Chern number (you might have heard of them, but if you haven’t they’re the invariant in the quantum Hall effect for example).
@greatad24055 жыл бұрын
but you can never stick to only one concept, no matter how attractive it was the last time you met it.
@GODofTimewaste25 жыл бұрын
As someone who will start studying physics this fall... Any good last minute tips?
@ashtonduda99715 жыл бұрын
@Darklorddestroyer14 you sit on a throne of lies darklord, olympiad my ass.
@milandjuric80435 жыл бұрын
Yep
@lokoroko12345 жыл бұрын
Let's just take a minute to appreciate how much effort was put into creating such a well animated video.
@chondrya9424 жыл бұрын
I know; I always wonder how educational channels make animations like this
@lamusicadepedrovicente4 жыл бұрын
this conversation sounds like an intro to an ad for an animation program
@Uluc9944 жыл бұрын
@@thomashorne2607but there's no good tutorial videos I guess...
@frosturation24744 жыл бұрын
@@Uluc994 you can check out TheoremOfBeethoven channel for manim tutorial
@Human-gu2cx4 жыл бұрын
Szymon Duniecki expect what he calls brown looks more gray but that doesn’t really matter
@spicyjew67775 жыл бұрын
Came for the video, stayed for the dope clicking noises
@andymcl925 жыл бұрын
I only hope you haven't yet watched the bouncing blocks videos so that you can go away and discover them anew!
@tamarisauce12785 жыл бұрын
ASMR? I feel ya
@veganworldorder93945 жыл бұрын
Came for the videos, came for the noises
@panstromek5 жыл бұрын
oh, yea man, spin that line faster, I need more clicks
@WangleLine5 жыл бұрын
*click click*
@maxliu25874 жыл бұрын
I remember attending a math camp and my instructor was one of the contestants of the 2011 IMO and he got this question on the test. This has one of the best solutions that I’ve seen
@benjaminblackwell2225 жыл бұрын
The inclusion of the animated graphics makes this much easier to understand. It’s good to remember that the kids taking the test didn’t have this advantage. Anyway fantastic videos they let my feel smarter than I am.
@blasecube5 жыл бұрын
... I'm the only that tough on using a pen to simulate the line?
@elijahanitalis34255 жыл бұрын
@@blasecube No
@Alfaomegabravo5 жыл бұрын
I´m of the opposite opinion, nothing will me make feel dumber than comparing myself to the very best you can find on this planet.
@siinxx76565 жыл бұрын
Welcome Homo VIdens. You're the living proof of how we "evolved" into a new kind of stimulae analysis.
@Jokervision7445 жыл бұрын
Did they have rulers? Enough paper to make one out of it?
@johannesbrahms33225 жыл бұрын
3Blue1Brown: "I guess I will try to exite people with this maths problem" Internet: "thAt CLickIng nOISe Is SatiSFyIng"
@J_to_the_F5 жыл бұрын
Honestly I get scared of gama-rays when hearing this😆
@shawncaton94895 жыл бұрын
There is no 's' in math. Why do people keep spelling it with an 's'?
@joemcclinton90015 жыл бұрын
@@shawncaton9489 I think it was numberphile that covered it in a vid. If I remember correctly, it comes from most (English speaking) Europeans considering mathematics as a plural and translating it to the shortened version "maths".
@SniperSX5 жыл бұрын
@@shawncaton9489 There are a lot of "S" in math, because math it's plural, just because a new born country thinks it's singular, the rest of the world disagrees, and no, Europeans don't just "Consider it Plural", the word IS plural, even without the "s".
@SniperSX5 жыл бұрын
@@shawncaton9489 mathematic (n.) "mathematical science," late 14c. as singular noun, mathematik (replaced since early 17c. by mathematics, q.v.), from Old French mathematique and directly from Latin mathematica (plural), from Greek mathēmatike tekhnē "mathematical science," feminine singular of mathēmatikos (adj.) "relating to mathematics, scientific, astronomical; pertaining to learning, disposed to learn," from mathēma (genitive mathēmatos) "science, knowledge, mathematical knowledge; a lesson," literally "that which is learnt;" from manthanein "to learn," from PIE root *mendh- "to learn." As an adjective, "pertaining to mathematics," from c. 1400, from French mathématique or directly from Latin mathematicus.
@Zanaki1135 жыл бұрын
3Blue1Brown: "A question that anyone could understand." Narrator: "The viewer could not understand."
@bcn1gh7h4wk5 жыл бұрын
freeze frame, black and white, and background voice. "It was not, in fact, understood."
@dmitry.clarke5 жыл бұрын
That made me chuckle
@wisdomwielder5 жыл бұрын
I read that in Morgan Freeman's voice
@Zanaki1135 жыл бұрын
@@wisdomwielder perfect lol
@commentconnoisseur10015 жыл бұрын
@@wisdomwielder I read it in Ron Howard's.
@haxney Жыл бұрын
On the "social" point, I've noticed this phenomenon in all sorts of things I've taught to people: programming, dance, woodworking, video games, etc. For human beings, it seems like an essential part of learning something is forgetting what it was like not to know that thing.
@timothydestiny3865 Жыл бұрын
True. I have experienced this many times when learning. I don't know whether you're religious or not, but this reminds me of Isaiah which says "Forget the things of old; behold, I will do a new thing...".
@MaxxTosh5 жыл бұрын
For your 2M subscriber special, can we see you tackle an IMO problem you’ve never seen before, to see how your brain works without having a ton of time to animate and think? You are incredibly insightful!
@3blue1brown5 жыл бұрын
Hmm...intriguing idea...
@pianoforte6115 жыл бұрын
Love this idea.
@JustDawdling5 жыл бұрын
3Blue1Brown agreed!
@danielm37725 жыл бұрын
Understanding the way you handle a problem from the beginning would be extremely interesting, please do it !
@0xDEAD_Inside5 жыл бұрын
Like 'Mathematics Train'
@3blue1brown5 жыл бұрын
(Edited) A few people ask "but what is the formal solution?". Take a look at this writeup, which you'll find is essentially the same as the video. It would get you full marks on the test: artofproblemsolving.com/wiki/index.php?title=2011_IMO_Problems/Problem_2 The fact that an argument doesn't reference equations and sets doesn't necessarily make it incomplete. Sure, you could explicitly define what words like "left" and "right" refer to by defining such and such cross product with such and such parameterization of the line, but for most readers, it wouldn't actually remove any ambiguity. The purpose of formality is to make all the terms used unambiguous to all readers, not to dress up the language to involve sufficiently many symbols. If you understood this video, you understood the full solution.
@randomdude91355 жыл бұрын
Please do a series on Groups, rings and fields 🙏🙏🙏
@milevaeinstein21995 жыл бұрын
💞💞💞.
@chamelious5 жыл бұрын
Is there a part 2 to this one where you give the actual answer?
@anand.suralkar5 жыл бұрын
Cool
@chamelious5 жыл бұрын
@Thomas Wilkinson Err, because no solution is given?
@jamesblunt0065 жыл бұрын
Student: Is this a hard problem? Teacher: It's easy once you know the solution!
@leiffitzsimmonsfrey12725 жыл бұрын
Yep. I forget where I read this, but I once read that mathematicians can only solve trivial theorems, because every solved theorem is definitionally trivial.
@janisgathot28735 жыл бұрын
@@leiffitzsimmonsfrey1272 I read that in "Surely You're Joking, Mr. Feynman!", though it may have appeared in other books as well.
@brunesi5 жыл бұрын
Yes and there is more to it than it appears. 3Blue cleverly has addressed it in the video. Apparently the person who proposed it was unable to measure the problem difficulty for one that did _not_ know the solution.
@ganondorfchampin5 жыл бұрын
In his defense, the proof of this theorem is remarkably short, just compare it to some of the other proofs on this channel, the main thing is just that it follows a very peculiar line of reasoning.
@brunesi5 жыл бұрын
@@ganondorfchampin But no proof was shown in this video, right? To me this problem is much more algorithmic than math. And it was indeed pointed out how a solution could be implemented, rather than math expressions solving the question.
@purvanshbhatia6631 Жыл бұрын
after watching your videos for a year, i’m baffled at how you consistently explain not only the solution to a math problem, but the process of thinking for an entire topic within math. Props
@John.05235 жыл бұрын
See Y’all In 5 Years When This Is In Everyone’s Reccomended
@silasmaurer78355 жыл бұрын
yep
@bluezzz99165 жыл бұрын
I hope i get a girlfriend by then
@jdkwlalos95 жыл бұрын
It's how I found this video lmao
@dietcocaine2205 жыл бұрын
Bluezzz same
@MusicalInnovations5 жыл бұрын
Already happening and I'm a piano channel
@AaronxBergmans5 жыл бұрын
*4.5 hours pass by* Lisa Sauermann: Oh nice perfect score Me: *still frantically drawing a connect the dots picture of a bunny*
@tiecelin94255 жыл бұрын
You sir, are a genius
@Phantom9145 жыл бұрын
A B : 1, Math Guys : 0!
@GirGir1835 жыл бұрын
It just goes to show us, once in a blue moon a girl will do better at maths than a boy. But that's about how often, no more than that.
@wes44395 жыл бұрын
@@GirGir183 incel detected lol
@GirGir1835 жыл бұрын
No. It's just what I've observed around me in the decades I've been alive.
@justinlumpkin18745 жыл бұрын
Yes I was definitely thinking "101, 563 and 2011? Those are all prime numbers"
@billyosullivan45145 жыл бұрын
That is the joke
@Ibegood5 жыл бұрын
Hey! We almost have the same last name. Sorry, but it's rare to find another xD
@chanceencounter1765 жыл бұрын
Yep haha definitely (cough)
@normmacdonaldrules46025 жыл бұрын
Yeah..."Lumpkin and Lumpkins" could definitely be a cop show.
@feixin_duke2 күн бұрын
I’m 7:13 into the video. I’m 18 and being challenged like this really makes me wish I had participated in stuff like this. I’m at a barber shop and I don’t have a white board which is kinda frustrating but here is my hypothesis. The outer most points in the set will form a polygon, and the starting point will be inside of this polygon. That way, the windmill can never escape the interior of the polygon. I say this because I can’t test it with a few cases on a whiteboard. Now repeat this but remove every point forming that polygon from the set, move the point to somewhere inside of this. Keep repeating that step until you find a point inside of every possible polygon that is formed. That solves the problem of the windmill ever leaving the starting point. Now for each polygon find a point equal distant from every vertices. Make a new polygon using those points and the point we found earlier to make a new polygon. And find a point equal distant from all the vertices again. Finally draw a line between this final point and the point we found earlier. I have no way to test this but I’m definitely going to when I get home. I’ll reply to this later with new solutions. I won’t finish the video till I find one.
@vincent-ls9lz5 жыл бұрын
my boy georgios getting a perfect score in the single hardest question that only 0.01% got a perfect score on, but then getting a 0 on the one 60% did. rip
@spotifyhd8904 жыл бұрын
It probably took him to much time, so he had no time left for the other tasks
@zafarb42194 жыл бұрын
it's 1% not 0.01% btw
@saidalas77633 жыл бұрын
greek kid
@jeconiahjoelmichaelsiregar79173 жыл бұрын
@@spotifyhd890 Question 1-3 and 4-6 are given at 2 separate days. The irony being pointed out is that Georgios Kalantzis (4:58) got a 0 on question 2 but a perfect 7 on question 6 (the hardest question) the next day.
@kkounal9743 жыл бұрын
A true Geometry lover, my prof at school was one of the people that "trained" the greek math team, he was very proud of kalantzis.
@tacticaltaco74814 жыл бұрын
I paused this video months ago trying to solve it. I ran into all the traps you listed out after giving about the solution, and ultimately gave in and watched the video. This is one of the most unique failures I've had when trying to solve a problem and an incredible lesson. Thank you.
@infinitum-repertorium Жыл бұрын
As Grant said in the chessboard video, puzzles are a rare gift and it takes ages to forget the solution. Cheers mate! You've inspired me to not give up on hard problems.
@duckymomo7935 Жыл бұрын
I thought they meant any point which makes it so that it is possible to never touch a certain point
@helloimnisha5 жыл бұрын
*All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.* Galileo Galilee
@hacherskanon30825 жыл бұрын
*quantum physics enters the chat
@Toksyuryel5 жыл бұрын
@@hacherskanon3082 The truth of quantum physics isn't difficult to understand, just difficult to accept. The truth is that quantum mechanics doesn't simply model reality, it IS reality. Copenhagen, Everett, and other "interpretations" are all attempts to deny this reality by trying to explain it in terms of the "reality" our eyes show us, and to invent explanations for the things our eyes can't see but which we know are there, and it is this process which introduces all of the confusing and strange elements of modern quantum physics which cause it to seem difficult to understand. People have a tough time accepting this, because mathematics is a tool invented by humans with arbitrary rules we chose and it feels really weird to think of it as something which exists on such a fundamental level. It'd be interesting to see someone attempt a proof of this principle: that any system of mathematics which can be proven to be consistent and can be shown to accurately model reality is functionally identical to any other system of mathematics which meets the same criteria. This would show that mathematics has more in common with language, in that you can always convey the same ideas even if the words are different, which would show that it exists on a much more fundamental level than merely being a human creation.
@meisterlix5 жыл бұрын
Did he know organic chemistry tho?
@x.x-JoJo-x.x5 жыл бұрын
Galilee must be the Chinese copy of Galilei.
@darknez092405 жыл бұрын
@@x.x-JoJo-x.x lmao
@Daniel1341-t2p4 жыл бұрын
The click every time the pivot passes off is god tier
@DarthChrisB5 жыл бұрын
“You want to believe a result before you try too hard to prove it” I finally understand flat earthers.
@hamsterfromabove89055 жыл бұрын
I mean that's how every theory works. You see an observation and you decide what you think it means. From there you decide you believe your own theory. You then need to announce or publish your theory. From there its just a matter of defending your theory from any and all logical and rational attacks. If someone presents you with an relevant observation your theory can't account for then you have one of two options. You can either accept your theory is wrong or you can accept your theory is currently incomplete. Flat Earthers have failed to defend their theory, thus it is not widely accepted.
@SangerZonvolt5 жыл бұрын
@John Smith Or you could look for obvious flaws in your theory. Or try and look if there is another already made theory that is mutual exclusive with your own and try to disproof that one first. If you can´t, there is a good chance your own is wrong.
@josephcagle5 жыл бұрын
@@hamsterfromabove8905 did you watch the flat earth documentary on netflix?
@RyogaEchizen5 жыл бұрын
but i dont understand trangenders though lol
@sarahmchugh41695 жыл бұрын
No, flat earthers actually "research" their stuff. Most aren't uneducated, so they aren't so easily convinced to change their minds from starting off believing the Earth is a globe, to thinking it's flat. The problem is, that since they think they are educated, they think they are capable of doing their own research, and they think that they have covered all their bases with whatever messed up "science" they have, they think they have tested this rigorously. This of course, would have to be coupled with a strong ability to conjure conspiracy to even consider that what everyone else knows as fact isn't actually true.
@jeewansingh40605 жыл бұрын
The clicking sound is so satisfying..... And also the proof
@zpotatoes79235 жыл бұрын
I think you mean "satisfying"
@sleevman5 жыл бұрын
sat·is·fac·to·ry /ˌsadəsˈfaktərē/ adjective fulfilling expectations or needs; acceptable, though not outstanding or perfect.
@sleevman5 жыл бұрын
sat·is·fy·ing /ˈsadəsˌfīiNG/ adjective giving fulfillment or the pleasure associated with this.
@vohehuli5 жыл бұрын
After watching the video: 1. I still don’t know the answer 2. I still don’t know the question
@GirGir1835 жыл бұрын
The whole crux of the maths problem was...Thin line go round and round. Little dots go clickey clickey. That's my reading of it anyway.
@lampie29465 жыл бұрын
@@GirGir183 BIG BRAINNN
@quentinrizzardi17635 жыл бұрын
It's not explicitly laid out in the video, but the video gives us all the needed information: - the video has proven that if you take a point and line that "cut" the set in half, then when you rotate 180 deg both halves are inverted (all the blue points are now brown, and vice-versa). It only works if you cut the set in half "perfectly" (with a little cheat when you have an even number of points) though. - following the same logic, after you've gone 360 deg you're back to your original position. - now, an important point made in the video is that the *only* way for a point to switch sides (become brown when it was blue and vice-versa), is to first become a pivot. - so that means that when you've travelled 180 deg, since every single point is now a different color, they *must* have become a pivot at a point or another (otherwise they would still be the same color). So here we've proven that there is a combination of "starting point +line" that hits every single point. - and, when we've travelled 360 deg, we're back to square one - which simply means that as we continue turning, we're going to do the same pattern indefinitely, hitting all the points over and over again. So, not only are we hitting every single point; we're hitting every single point an infinite number of times. There's not really an equation to describe this, or at least not an easily palatable one. You're better off writing a logical statement. A condensed version of what I've said above, which I believe would be accepted as an answer, could be: "for a set S of 2n+1 points (odd number), there is a point P in S through which we can trace a line that has exactly n points on each side (for a set of 2n points (even number), one side has n-1 points). Since the change of pivot results in a "side switch" for the previous pivot point, and that when the line has rotated 180 degrees, every point that was previously on the left of the line is now on the right, and vice-versa, then it must be that every point has been the pivot at least once. After a 360 degree rotation, the system will reset, and we can conclude that each point of S will undergo pivot and switch an infinite number of times."
@BuckFieri5 жыл бұрын
Well the question was displayed, so perhaps you meant you didn't comprehend the question. Of course, I'm just teasing because when I first saw the question I was rather confused as to what it wanted myself.
@Devonte-w8o5 жыл бұрын
@@quentinrizzardi1763 bravo, that was amazing.
@mcdamastr3 күн бұрын
Even years later I still occasionally come back to this video. It’s such a perfect example of how you don’t need to know calculus or linear algebra or whatnot to understand and appreciate the beautiful logic of mathematics.
@danielroder8305 жыл бұрын
The last thing you said about empathizing with not understanding something, this is something every teacher should think about daily when teaching. People who teach the same stuff year after year forget how it was when they didn't understand it and can get impatient when someone doesn't understand it right away.
@eroraf86375 жыл бұрын
This video is the embodiment of "obvious in retrospect". And I love it.
@julioservantes82425 жыл бұрын
You are the embodiment of a twat.
@luayuahmed5 жыл бұрын
@@julioservantes8242 comes on man
@LostSwiftpaw5 жыл бұрын
@@julioservantes8242 Yeah man comes on
@varunmundale46275 жыл бұрын
Nobody: 3blue1brown: I know what u r thinking... Those do happen to be prime numbers
@terner12345 жыл бұрын
I DEFINITELY thought that, yeah.
@chaosredefined38345 жыл бұрын
@@terner1234 I didn't get that far. I was trying to figure out why the number of participants wasn't 606. 101 countries, 6 participants per country. Then I realised, oh right, people might have fallen sick.
@terner12345 жыл бұрын
@@chaosredefined3834 I didn't even think about the numbers, I just made a joke, it's good you even got that far
@SukoSeiti5 жыл бұрын
@@chaosredefined3834 more like, not all countries had the money to send their competitors.
@Urdailyapple5 жыл бұрын
unfunny format
@QuintessentialWalrus4 жыл бұрын
I can't help but think the reason so many participants struggled with this problem is because it's so difficult to visualize. The graphics in this video make discovering the solution seem almost obvious, but with a pencil and paper? And a question written in that kind of language? It's very far removed from what you typically see in the study of mathematics.
@meiz17954 жыл бұрын
it's not really that hard to visualize, just draw a few points and use your pencil as the spinning line. Such language is nothing unusual for competitive math and while it might be true that contest math and school math are 2 entirely different things, problems you usually solve at school usually involve using some formula or definition you've learned recently which is far too easy and you can't really call that a challenge, which a competition, especially one like IMO, is supposed to be.
@armagor4828 Жыл бұрын
It is actually very hard to visualize. Stating it's easy won't make it easier. Doing it on paper is cool but it take a lot of time if you want to try different starting line And starting points like in the video.
@aoyuki1409 Жыл бұрын
i think they can visualize it, but using pen and paper to turn imaginary visual into practical visual would take a lot of time so they prioritize other questions, and because Q3/6 is harder it probably took the biggest chunk of time.
@duckymomo7935 Жыл бұрын
Actually I think people confused the wording ANY point vs a point in which I would’ve gotten it wrong since ANYONE point is not true Also a windmill process is not obvious at all
@duckymomo7935 Жыл бұрын
Actually apparently the #2 scorer thought the problem was too trivial but he didn’t write more than a 2 line solution and 2 lines can never grant full 7 points shrug
@rashad60095 жыл бұрын
Infinity is a concept created by mathematicians to represent how much I love this channel
@chankhavu5 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, Lisa Sauermann just finished her Ph.D at Stanford this spring, according to her academic website :)
@dave2.0775 жыл бұрын
lol what a nerd
@Mylada5 жыл бұрын
@@yourlordandsaviouryeesusbe2998 Why is anything funny
@shankysays5 жыл бұрын
@@Mylada such stoic
@nikolaypochekai36625 жыл бұрын
Very interesting remark!
@gordn_ramsi5 жыл бұрын
@@Rahul-cb4jb I'd rather have a sense of humor than be a humorless jerk like you.
@PyroBlaster5 жыл бұрын
This was a VERY pleasant experience. I did not expect this video to have such a deep and beautiful message, and I bet even people who whole-heartedly hate math and exact sciences can appreciate it, assuming they can actually sit through the video and resist the urge to click off. Edit: Wow, 200 likes! I never had that many before, tysm!
@ddogg145 жыл бұрын
My focus of study is in the social sciences, and though "whole-heartedly hate" might be too strong a term, I have always been terrible at math and exact sciences. I struggled mightily with getting into the right mode of thinking for discrete math and it is the main reason I did not pursue computer science. Getting a well-articulated glimpse into the mathematical/exact sciences mode of thinking and reasoning into a problem has been very valuable for me. "Find an invariant" was a wonderful insight for me personally, and hindsight truly is 20/20... an important lesson in humility.
@PyroBlaster5 жыл бұрын
@@ddogg14 it's very interesting how much reasoning and logic can be different, but still just as useful and fitting when you look somewhere far from your field. Thank you for the comment :)
@efulmer86754 жыл бұрын
3Blue1Brown As a non-mathematician I greatly appreciate the Don Quixote reference you made at the end of a very satisfying mathematical puzzle. I love your videos. You provide just enough information in one moment that I can make the stab at your next point before you quite get there in your video. Very satisfying, even when I get it wrong, but especially that one or two times I've actually gotten it somewhat right.
@darioj6065 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the Don Quijote cameo at the end :)
@pepinilloloko29185 жыл бұрын
Didn't expect that
@20115685 жыл бұрын
i legit almost cried
@peglor5 жыл бұрын
Don Quixote is the reason that if I ever get a donkey I'll name it Oatey...
@anhthiensaigon5 жыл бұрын
3B1B is expert in both math and literature, he's definitely a renaissance man
@Undaglibenglaubengloben5 жыл бұрын
Very nice touch indeed
@halbeard29965 жыл бұрын
This channel does everything: Sociological analysis, philosophical ponderings and now he's even getting poetic
@plovet5 жыл бұрын
I always like to say, "All Math is Easy .......once you understand it". This is video is a very nice illustration of that principle. I started saying that back when I got my math degree and I noticed that all my 'advanced' math textbooks were still being titled "Introduction to..." or "Elementary ..." ---- never once did I have the satisfication of carrying around a book titled "Really damn hard advanced ...." The people who wrote the books, thought the stuff was 'easy'..... and eventually it was.....
@ne0ck2375 жыл бұрын
What a deep thought btw, every book is named as "basic, eleventary.." xD
@whoot8135 жыл бұрын
You should write world's first "fundamentals of really damn hard advanced calculus (w/applications)" book.
@5097345 жыл бұрын
“This textbook will first melt your brain then marry your mom”
@adamroberts26915 жыл бұрын
i beg to differ
@finmat95 Жыл бұрын
EVERYTHING is easy when you know the solution, but this is the approach of the dumbest people.
@rembo964 жыл бұрын
7:58 I was trying to solve it myself, but I could not, and after seeing just this single frame I understood everything. Of course you still need to see that every dot has changed color, but the first idea is the hardest and the most important. Beautiful.
@KhaosTy5 жыл бұрын
I watched and at the end I said out loud: "Wow, that video was f***ing fun." The sounds and the smooth animations and the little light flash on each point as it becomes the new pivot are all great. I can tell you really pay attention to the sensory experience of your videos.
@xeinrr5 жыл бұрын
like mines? :D
@manja51985 жыл бұрын
It took me 11 minutes to realise that you choose the colors blue and brown lol
@shizotypical5 жыл бұрын
But they weren't 3:1, simply 1:1!
@kuntaldas28435 жыл бұрын
now i realise LOL
@rz23745 жыл бұрын
@@shizotypical Look at 8:13 there it is kind of 3:1
@feschber5 жыл бұрын
10:59 lmao
@CuriousBunch5 жыл бұрын
haha same here!! 10 mins in and it finally clicked why brown but not just red OMG
@anananwar5 жыл бұрын
Me: Haven't done math in 14 years. KZbin: You know what i think you'd really enjoy? ... Strangely enough, youtube was 100% right.
@baguettegott34095 жыл бұрын
I find your comment weirdly motivational. I'm studying physics and maths is stressing me out TO NO END at the moment, and it's really frustrating... but then I read this and try to imagine what it's like to not do maths for 14 years and I can't even imagine that. Hell, I miss maths over a long summer break, no maths for THAT long, I just couldn't do it. It reminds me of how much I love maths, even if it drives me crazy occasionally.
@markhenley30974 жыл бұрын
@@baguettegott3409 Yeah same for me, coming close to going to university and I need to get an A* in Maths and Physics. These videos help me.
@hurbig4 жыл бұрын
Now I know why my university adjusts the grading scale according to the number of points students were able to get. I always thought it is to limit the number of people who pass since the first year is a sort of entrance exam. Now I think it is reasonable to think that sometimes a problem is just way harder than they anticipated so they are more merciful on grading that one. I am often amazed by the fact that we are expected to be able to prove theorems that mathematicians a few decades ago were unable to proof and I am just a student. Of course, it is easier for us because we know that it is provable and we know that we probably need to use the tools that were presented to us in the course, but a few mathematicians died without ever seeing the solution to this problem.
@andrewjuby63398 ай бұрын
I had an astronomy 101 professor whose tests were 10 questions each worth 10 points. He told us that the only way to get a perfect score on a question would be to answer it as thoroughly as he would, which is why 50% was an A.
@marketplierr5 жыл бұрын
Is this problem hard? Well yes, but actually no, but actually yes
@Fins-T5 жыл бұрын
Can you solve it? Well no, but actually yes, but actually no
@Wouterdobbels5 жыл бұрын
@@Fins-T Can you solve it? Only after 3Blue1Brown gives an excellent proof including awesome animations.
@mathymathymathy90915 жыл бұрын
With some problems like this, how hard you find them depends a lot on how quickly you get the right idea. If you get it, it seems trivial. If not, it can take hours. I didn't find this problem particularly difficult, and that was similar to 2018 Problem 3, where I got a key idea very quickly.
@marketplierr5 жыл бұрын
@@mathymathymathy9091 k
5 жыл бұрын
Mathymathymathy exactly, I didn’t really find it extremely difficult either but it all comes down to finding a setup in which the solution is obvious!
@DutchDread5 жыл бұрын
It's obvious....in hindsight. Give that shit to me without this explanation and I'd just stare for 10 years.
@tollboothjason5 жыл бұрын
That's the beauty of this problem. The solution is rather simple, but coming up with the solution on one's own, as Miss Sauermann did, takes considerable insight.
@goyonman96555 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@1AmGroot5 жыл бұрын
“You want to believe a result before you try too hard to prove it” This once happened to me. I believed a result, and my friend believed a different result, so I said "Fine, I'll prove it". In the middle of the proof, I figure out that I am wrong.
@BG_NC5 жыл бұрын
1AmGroot that's always fun
@terrariabookshhelf63175 жыл бұрын
1AmGroot very vague example like thats just rewriting the question and giving it to your teacher as the answer
@vinayseth11145 жыл бұрын
What were the 2 results, and what was the problem?
@vinayseth11145 жыл бұрын
@@SereneJudo That's a good story. Thanks!
@Demozo_5 жыл бұрын
@@SereneJudo That "problem" is very misleading though. 1 / 3 = 0.333... when you're dividing (working with real numbers). But a fraction 1/3 or 3/3 is "1" because you're abstracting away the underlying value. 0.333 * 3 can never equal 1. The catch is really that you're working with two different units, or rather an estimation of the value of 1/3.
@shreyjha19744 жыл бұрын
I liked how you added a philosophical aspect to this problem because what you said at the end is so true. Your solution seemed easy to me, but then again how would I know to go with that solution, and how would I know to look for a constant.
@johnchessant30125 жыл бұрын
"Once upon a time, there was a windmill... ... and the moral of the story is to seek quantities which stay invariant." with a Don Quixote reference! Hahahahahahahahah
@danielmurawski59265 жыл бұрын
I remember doing it when I was preparing for IMO. I was really proud of myself after solving it, the solution is gorgeous
@jackw77145 жыл бұрын
Looks like it paid off. Congratulations on the medal and brilliant scores www.imo-official.org/participant_r.aspx?id=28577
@user-vr6cl9lk1l5 жыл бұрын
@@jackw7714 Wow... he is a genius lol silver medal...
@alexanderwong42325 жыл бұрын
Wow. Congrats!
@rajeshrevankar44905 жыл бұрын
Daniel Murawski congrats
@araptuga5 жыл бұрын
Did you use the same approach as here? Do you know if all who successfully solved it did so? If not, was there something they all still had in common? For example, did they all involve searching for an invariant, but perhaps finding a different one (or a proxy that looked different, even though it shared the same roots)?
@johnchessant30125 жыл бұрын
Damn. The problem is easy to understand, the solution is easy to understand, but it's extremely difficult to come up with. It's all so beautiful. This is real math! :-)
@bornach5 жыл бұрын
Pretty much that was my experience when I participated in IMO 1991 hosted by Sweden. The unusual problem of that year was a problem combining graph theory with number theory. Question was easy to understand, and proof was easy to explain (could possibly fit into one tweet), but man was it difficult to come up with. Needless to say I didn't score very high (no medal) but I did manage to score a full 7 points on that problem. The feeling was worth it.
@kumarthecowboy5 жыл бұрын
@@bornach really appreciate that .. i always wonder what these good student do when they grow up ? do they continue into education or research field or something else ??
@aidanhennessey55865 жыл бұрын
Have you looked much into the coffin problems?
@pianoforte6115 жыл бұрын
@@bornach Beautiful problem. The key observation I assume being that consecutive numbers will always have a greatest common divisor of one, and then you have to figure out how to "break up" the graph into sequences of consecutive numbers.
@TheGoldenutz5 жыл бұрын
Honestly the most satisfying feeling in the world is solving a ridiculously difficult math problem. I live for it. Guess that's why I'm an Engineer 😂
@kasperjoonatan60145 жыл бұрын
Ok so Lisa didn't have beautiful youtube graphics so how did she write the proof ?
@thelostdonkey15855 жыл бұрын
Drawing dots on a scratch paper, putting her pencil on the dots and spinning it around, recognizing the pattern that repeats
@MinusPi-p9c5 жыл бұрын
@@thelostdonkey1585 That's how she figured it out, but that doesn't suffice as a rigorous, pointworthy proof.
@sadmanzaid4205 жыл бұрын
@@beerus553 And they say that girls are dumb at math.
@user-eg6xu7cr8e5 жыл бұрын
This is still a descriptive solution, not a mathematical one.
@kasperjoonatan60145 жыл бұрын
@@user-eg6xu7cr8e yes, but it is ok if it is correct and logical. would mr. Spock say :)
@stonersudowoodo71435 жыл бұрын
This video is literally “Well yes, but actually no” personified
@yung-stephen5 жыл бұрын
well yes, but actually no
@lewisford74385 жыл бұрын
Well yes, but actually no, it's videographied
@lewismassie5 жыл бұрын
"If a made up windmill helps you prepare for a real problem, who cares if it's a fiction" This sounds like something that should be an ancient chinese proverb
@vaevictus46375 жыл бұрын
I think it's a Don Quixote reference.
@Wolf_Khain5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Hamlet. Windmills prepare you to fight giants...Thats a real problem.
@tisaconundrum5 жыл бұрын
@@vaevictus4637 I mean... he did animate Don Quixote into the video...
@campkira5 жыл бұрын
if the balance it off the line will fall off from center to outside..
@Coldcloves Жыл бұрын
Great animation and analysis of the problem.. A huge congrats to Lisa for solving all the problems perfectly.. i see no comment here praising her for this stunning feat..
@kalevala297 ай бұрын
mathematicians are not generally prone to praise. I think a good term would be captious, a concise way to convey the idea of someone who habitually criticizes and finds flaws. Or maybe just nitpicks.
@bartoszmaj86915 жыл бұрын
"And anyone watching this video can understand" Me: "Oh ok nice, usually I'm not too good at math but lets give this a go" *First sentence of problem is said* Me: "Mission failed, we'll get 'em next time"
@d-rabbitfor53985 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha
@angelodc16525 жыл бұрын
It basically means that you have a bunch of points on a flat area
@masterdementer4 жыл бұрын
"It's not over yet, we'll get 'em next time" -CODM domination Lol
@Leyrann4 жыл бұрын
The funny part is that math problems are often easier to understand once you've read ALL sentences, because then the various givens and everything become a whole.
@davidhcefx4 жыл бұрын
haha
@lunashi_e5 жыл бұрын
People: Is this question hard? 3Blue1Brown: yes, but actually no, but actually yes.
@fackarov94124 жыл бұрын
2/3 yes?
@AttilaAsztalos4 жыл бұрын
Vsauce2: So it really is a simple problem, right? WRONG!
@valeriobertoncello18094 жыл бұрын
Oh no it's in a superposition of being both hard and not hard!
@JohnPaul-di3ph4 жыл бұрын
@@valeriobertoncello1809 Schrodinger nods in approval
@Prodbybah3 жыл бұрын
Oviously not but typically yes
@TheScienceBiome5 жыл бұрын
Holy wow, these kids are truly uber-geniuses to figure out how to do this all by themselves.
@nathanaelarnquist5 жыл бұрын
On the shoulders of giants. But, yes.
@iusedwasi29905 жыл бұрын
yeah well i didn't understand even after he showed us the solution so lmao
@hugekingkibblefan69805 жыл бұрын
Wow that comment just came to life with cringe
@RamHomier5 жыл бұрын
@@nathanaelarnquist That specific problem seems to be a good testament of true ingenuity rather than knowledge passed on by "giants".
@thewarlord45555 жыл бұрын
@@RamHomier knowledge molds the way of thinking.
@GyeonghunPyeon3 жыл бұрын
사람들은 자신의 이해를 확실시하기 위해서 혹은 증명하기 이해서 다양한 문제들을 만들어 냅니다. 그 중에서도 이 영상에서처럼 국제적인 수학 협회에서 만든 문제를 풀어볼 기회가 생겼다는 사실이 영광입니다. 이런 문제를 소개해주셔서 감사합니다.
@DubstepCherry5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see her acutal answer to the question. Like, how to you but that in mathematical writing
@magicianwizard42945 жыл бұрын
yeah, the statements and reasons for the stuff
@wiliextreme5 жыл бұрын
probably looked similar to this artofproblemsolving.com/wiki/index.php/2011_IMO_Problems/Problem_2
@someoneontheinternet30905 жыл бұрын
After watching and taking notes I believe the correct answer is "yes"
@tropicarls5 жыл бұрын
@@someoneontheinternet3090 dude the correct answer is "spin thru middle-ish, change the color-ish"
@KucheKlizma5 жыл бұрын
Ah after reading it twice what eluded me was that the "middle" point is in the relative center of the X axis, but the line drawn starts at initial vertical position, and it's the combination of the two that ensures it runs trough the middle.
@80159085 жыл бұрын
Title of video should be "This problem seems hard, because it is."
@amiraslanbakhshili54205 жыл бұрын
"Find an invariant" I am a software engineer and know that this takeaway will help me a lot when solving problems. I am surprized that I have never thought of finding solution in that way. It sounds so obvious after knowing. Thank you so much!
@123Gianlu5 жыл бұрын
It's like design patterns for math
@Garbaz5 жыл бұрын
Definitely a useful way to approach problems in software! Can't remember any specific one from the top of my head, but I definitely have had problems where this sort of thinking helped finding a solution.
@KabeloMoiloa5 жыл бұрын
You've already been applying this without knowing it. Ever written a for loop to add up numbers in a list? Well that's about the invariant that "some variable is equal to the sum of the first k elements of this list." This scales up to quicksort, mergesort, and other array based algorithms. Also there is a close connection between such "loop invariants," and induction hypotheses in inductive proofs and recursive algorithms.
@callumforbes63775 жыл бұрын
I'm starting as an apprentice soon and I'd really like to take a mathematical approach to software. It's why I find the abstractions in Haskell so interesting. They've formalised patterns devs don't even know they're already using.
@Mew__5 жыл бұрын
Just went through my first year of engineering science at university (which included a class in coding), and I can confirm that "loop invariants" are there for the exact purpose Grant describes (except they're rarely used in real-life programming, since oftentimes, that doesn't involve neat mathematical problems). Flexes the mind, at least.
@AmbivalentVermilia4 жыл бұрын
오늘 도파 방송보고 왔는데 자기가 진짜 바쁘다 or 현직 문과다 하는 사람들을 위한 요약 앞에 7:54~9:00부분은 도선생님이랑 봤으니까 따로 1번 더봐 그래야 감 좀 올듯 9:21~10:10 회전중심으로 선을 2등분했을 때, 방향은 시계방향으로 고정이니까 위쪽부분의 선은 무조건 오른쪽 점에 닿고 아래쪽 부분의 선은 무조건 왼쪽 점에 닿음 그리고 닿았을 때는 무조건 색이 바뀌고 닿아야 바뀜(이제 전문용어로 필요충분조건이라고 하지요?) 10:11~11:28 180도 돌렸을 때 직선을 180도 돌리면 똑같은데 이제 앞에 조건을 다 만족하려면 처음회전중심=180도 돌렸을 때 회전중심 이여야함 이 때 180도 돌았기 때문에 처음이랑 비교했을 때 왼쪽 오른쪽 색만 뒤바뀜. 근데 색이 뒤바뀌었다는 뜻은 곧 만났다는 뜻이니까 따라서 이 앞부분 7:54부터 나오는 중심은 무조건 문제의 조건을 만족함 11:29~12:40 점 개수가 짝수일 때는 회전중심에도 색이 있다고 가정하고 똑같은 과정을 하면 됨 이 때 180도 돌면 회전중심만 색이 바뀌고 위에 점 개수 홀수일 때랑 상황이 똑같음 12:40~14:09 이 문제가 주는 교훈중 첫 번째: 대충 머리속에서 선이 돈다고 생각했을 때 왠지모르게 ㅈ밥같아보이는 무언가가 생김-> 문제가 쉽다고 생각함 but 영상 앞에서 보여줬다시피 이 문제는 괭장히 어렵고 이 문제 낸 사람들도 난도조절 실패함. 실제로 수학업계 종사자들은 자기가 하고있는게 얼마나 어려운지 감을 못 잡는다고 함(이 영상 제목의 이유) 14:10~14:55 무언가 고정돼있는 고정값이 중요하다 14:55~끝 수학 문제는 실생활을 푸는데 중요하다 이런 개 무쓸모같은것들도 언젠가 필요해질 수도 있다. 졸려서 글이 잘 안써져서 ㅈㅅㅈㅅ.. 이해안가면 좌표찾아가서 보셈 +이더리움 화이팅
@응으으애4 жыл бұрын
그래서 답을 적을라면 어떻게 적어야하나여~?
@fermiona05133 жыл бұрын
@@응으으애 저 위에 베댓 중에 있어요 영어가 딸려서 직접 찾아보심이
@bait52573 жыл бұрын
What an insightful comment.
@WholesomeLad5 жыл бұрын
"The solution is something that anyone watching this video could understand" Press X To Doubt
@kefinnigan25 жыл бұрын
yea, i still dont understand what the solution is
@devd_rx5 жыл бұрын
X
@GrimOakheart5 жыл бұрын
@@kefinnigan2 In order to make all points be hit an infinite amount of times, on whatever starting point chosen, the line you start with must be angled in such a way that it divides the dots in half.
@babyninjajesus26695 жыл бұрын
@@kefinnigan2 same amount of colored dots on both sides after a full rotation = it never moved from its original starting point and therefore *cannot* ever move because theres no other variables
@mr_confuse5 жыл бұрын
X
@sprazz86685 жыл бұрын
“Problems 1 and 4 are doable” PFFFFFFFFFFF
@Anonymations4 жыл бұрын
I press x on that one
@masterdementer4 жыл бұрын
@@Anonymations I press F on that one, cuz I'm PC gamer not a console player.
@masterdementer4 жыл бұрын
Nd yeah F
@eloisanzara2374 жыл бұрын
F
@aaronkou17514 жыл бұрын
It’s because the people that go to IMO are literally geniuses
@TurdFurgeson5715 жыл бұрын
Imagine the amount of work that must have gone into this video, the script writing, social and mathematical analysis, the animations, and everything else. Then imagine the kind of mind it must take to, after all that, be able to make this into a Don Quixote meme. This channel is too good.
@perrymaskell35087 күн бұрын
I absolutely love the 3B1B videos. Well explained. The visuals are awesome! The voice is very pleasant to listen to. Not sure if it is the YT algorithm, but I am finding these more philosophical videos teaching skills very interesting and a step up (if that's even possible) from the usual explanations of theory. Very well done and many thanks.
@celkat5 жыл бұрын
Let's just stop for a sec and appreciate 3Blue1Brown's BEAUTIFUL animations and sound effects
@masterdementer4 жыл бұрын
Click click that was worth hearing for the entire video, doest matter if I understood the problem or not
@rautermann5 жыл бұрын
I like how the pivot points themselves are a metaphor of how this problem pivots from hard to easy and back through your explanations.
@guard130075 жыл бұрын
"Say, half the points blue, and the other half brown." But that won't be 3 blue to 1 brown. I know this doesn't help with the current problem, but I can't help but be upset at how close this came to that without quite going there.
@izme10003 жыл бұрын
I went there too 😀
@radhatanya97022 жыл бұрын
Although, did you notice how clever he was in the animations? Even with half the points blue and the other half brown, he still managed to have the screen 3 times brown and once white :')
@prajhualak Жыл бұрын
He could use 4 points and as it is even, take the point passing through the line to be blue and.... Yeaah 3b1b
@insooklee4294 Жыл бұрын
ARGH! All he needed to perform was to shift line l’s starting point proportionately to the side and still have been able to solve the problem!
@mskiptr4 жыл бұрын
So for the past half year, from time to time I was trying to approach this problem from different angles - mostly related to convex hulls. Even though I did not manage to solve it on my own, the experience was really nice and I've come up with some cool reasoning.
@sarthaksrivastava80314 жыл бұрын
That's the beauty of problem solving.
@DonVigaDeFierro5 жыл бұрын
"Sometimes you need to focus on the 'micro' to really understand the thickness of the 'macro'". - Josh Waitzkin. Or better said: "Always start simple!" - 3Blues1Brown.
@kamikeserpentail37785 жыл бұрын
As I've once been told, just remember to KISS it. Keep It Simple Stupid.
@flain2835 жыл бұрын
i'm pretty sure Josh Waitzkin is the voice from a chessmaster game i spent too many hours on (although as a side effect i'm better at chess)
@zombeetaz5 жыл бұрын
"This problem seems hard, then it doesn't, but it really is" love him or hate him he's spittin straight facts
@erdem_cologne5 жыл бұрын
that Don Quixote reference was a perfect touch. i want to cry.
@VikeingBlade5 жыл бұрын
Omg I thought I was wrong abt that
@bandie91015 жыл бұрын
actually, I _did_ cry.
@tanshufy235 жыл бұрын
Where? Can you please tell the time stamp?
@erdem_cologne5 жыл бұрын
@@tanshufy23 it is on 15:35 the windmill, figures on the left and of course the sentence. that sentence was somewhat close to the whole point of the book.
@jdkhare5 жыл бұрын
Wow, I came here to comment exactly this. I love all of you here!!!
@MrHankQiuАй бұрын
Changes 20% of my life watching this
@gradientO5 жыл бұрын
*How about a series on **_Essence of Probability?_*
@shubhamchoure80315 жыл бұрын
Yeess
@uttiyamaji12755 жыл бұрын
Yesss
@cptn_n3m0125 жыл бұрын
No !!!
@omerresnikoff35655 жыл бұрын
Actually I'm pretty sure that will happen since there is a folder inside the "active_projects" folder of Manim (his animation software) under the name of "eop" (essence of probability) with a file called "what_does_probability_mean.py". github.com/3b1b/manim/tree/master/active_projects/eop
@rjvv985 жыл бұрын
Essence of Statistics*
@leomorris4205 жыл бұрын
"Knowing when math is hard is way harder than math itself " Wise words right there
@Es-mt9hw5 жыл бұрын
I gained 3 IQ just from touching this video
@mikeydaone5 жыл бұрын
I just realised I have around 3 IQ from watching this video
@DeKosta5 жыл бұрын
I think i lost 3 from thinking to hard on this one..
@cheems082135 жыл бұрын
there is no such thing as IQ
@dft00111010001010015 жыл бұрын
And then someone else in the world lost 3 IQ because the average value of 100 is an invariant right!
@PuerRidcully5 жыл бұрын
I did too. My total IQ is 53 now.
@sorinjayaweera87513 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but that ending had me BALLING, crying my eyes out. Thank you for your channel and everything haha, math is so fun and amazing .
@jamesxyzhybeast27853 жыл бұрын
Cool
@alperenerol18525 жыл бұрын
Every contestant after solving the first question '' ah, this paper is so easy'' 2nd question ''I'm about to end this man's whole career''
@72sh5 жыл бұрын
Lol what about the people who dint even solve the very first problem. Poor kids.
@austinconner24795 жыл бұрын
@@72sh no shame in not solving an imo problem. I don't know about imo contestants, but in similar Olympiads the median score is usually zero
@yogeshsagar96235 жыл бұрын
@@72sh They aren't poor kids ! They're among top 6 mathematical geniuses of their country. I bet you weren't even in top 6 of your highschool. -_-
@lonestarr14905 жыл бұрын
@@austinconner2479 But it can still drive you insane, though. I watched this video 3 days ago and since then struggle to find the solution for problem 3 ...
@leventevirag16535 жыл бұрын
@@72sh Another comment saying "kids".You know that most of the contestants are 17 or 18 years old right?
@lyrimetacurl05 жыл бұрын
13:45 is the other half of the Dunning-Kruger effect: If you actually know what you're talking about, you assume it's easy for others to understand.
@qingyuewu64295 жыл бұрын
This is usually called the "curse of knowledge".
@erik-ic3tp4 жыл бұрын
@Rich 91, why?
@alexjasat52644 жыл бұрын
Rich 91 it’s hard to put yourself in other people’s shoes especially if your audience is like 3 million shoes
@robinsuj4 жыл бұрын
@Rich 91 Most teachers aren't autistic, yet most teachers have to deal with the curse of knowledge. It doesn't they are not trying, or that they lack social skills. It just means that it is hard to go back to before one didn't understand a subject, and to explain it to people that don't yet understand it in a way that all of them can understand (mainly because there doesn't normally exist a single, unique, way in which all of the students understand at the same time and the same way).
@Leyrann4 жыл бұрын
@Rich 91 I would like to point out that empathy is not an issue for autists in general and aspergers specifically. SHOWING empathy is difficult, however autists tend to have it in spades, and I believe there have even been studies that imply autists might be more emphatic than the average person (though I don't have a clue how that's measured). Also autists can be great at explaining things, it really depends on the person. Some autists just have an innate understanding of which parts of a theory are hard to grasp, and that can make them great teachers. Of course, there's also autists that have a total INability to understand that. It's varied. Almost like autists are people. (who knows, maybe we are...)
@lorraineadormonicus5 жыл бұрын
Student : Is the test hard? Teacher :Well yes but no but accually yes
@chaotickreg70244 жыл бұрын
Outer points and convex hulls is where my mind started going. This is a fantastic video about pure maths.
@alecchapman79765 жыл бұрын
That click is really satisfying
@austria1175 жыл бұрын
If you like that, you should watch his Colliding Blocks videos 👌🏼😁
@chervilious5 жыл бұрын
@@austria117 the colliding block has a simple pattern, this is more satisfying IMHO
@patilabhishek1505 жыл бұрын
r/oddlysatisfying
@PersianMusicalModel5 жыл бұрын
I comment once every 10 years on average. That's how much I love your work, keep it up.
@komperakompera21905 жыл бұрын
prove it!
@yuguojie5 жыл бұрын
Based on that I can prove that you've only made 1 comment and you've been watching KZbin since 2009, because KZbin is 14 years old, and you can't have a fraction of a comment. That's as far as my math skills go.
@catbear32945 жыл бұрын
@@yuguojie he never specified wich platform. Maybe he made a comment on some forum years ago!
@yuguojie5 жыл бұрын
@@catbear3294 you're right! I totally missed that...
@YituTG5 жыл бұрын
He said on average, so he might be 60 years old and this is his sixth comment in this year (never posted any comments before)
@ardiris27155 жыл бұрын
My long term takeaway from this video will be "look for the invariant".
@thedoublehelix56615 жыл бұрын
I actually used this to solve a problem I was struggling with on Mind Your Decisions.
@AalapShah122975 жыл бұрын
There is a book called problem solving strategies by Arthur Engel. It's a really great book that sorts Olympiad problems by solving principles rather than the sub field of mathematics. One of the chapters is on invariants which has 100s of problems like this one. There are other chapters on things such as the extremal principle, induction, colouring proofs, etc.
@DolganoFF5 жыл бұрын
Invariant is one of the most powerful solution finding methods. Meaning you're right :)
@duoduopoi5 жыл бұрын
Totally agree!
@cyanozoid27064 жыл бұрын
Beautiful video. Beautiful channel. You have no idea how inspiring your videos are to me and so many others. I think your content goes far beyond mere tutelage, far beyond helping people trying to pass mathematics classes. I'm no mathematician, far from it, but your videos give me no other choice than to conclude how beautiful this complex world is, even when the outside world can be chaotic. Thank you, Grant.
@XDjUanZInHO5 жыл бұрын
I really need to emphasize that this video is way different from the other you normally do and turned out to be way cooler than what I thought from the title
@evaristegalois62825 жыл бұрын
“This problem seems hard, then it doesn't, but it really is” Riemann’s Hypothesis and Fermat’s Last Theorem in a nutshell
@pendragon76005 жыл бұрын
The riemann hypothesis does not seem easy. Nor has it ever
@vojtechstrnad15 жыл бұрын
No. The proof of Fermat's Last Theorem has over a hundred pages and you need heavy mathematical background to understand it. It's very much unlike the proof in the video, which requires almost no mathematical background to understand, it's just really hard to come up with on your own.
@omerresnikoff35655 жыл бұрын
Collatz's Conjecture too
@user-nb6zu3rk4f5 жыл бұрын
@@pendragon7600 Anyway, it seems easier than it is. There actually is an extremely simple explanation: www.quora.com/What-is-the-simplest-way-to-explain-the-Riemann-hypothesis-to-a-young-child, but you know hoow actually hard it is.
@timh.68725 жыл бұрын
@@user-nb6zu3rk4f That is one of the most amazing way's I've ever seen to approach the Implication of the Reimann hypothesis!
@aronthomas95945 жыл бұрын
Great video! This problem is pretty infamous among IMO contestants; I recognised it from the thumbnail. It'd be cool to see some videos on other IMO problems, some of them are particularly beautiful.
@austinconner24795 жыл бұрын
Why is the problem infamous?
@aronthomas95945 жыл бұрын
@@austinconner2479 Largely because the people setting the paper manged to completely misjudge the difficulty. Problem 2 each day is meant to be solved by about 100 people, not 22.
@joeanon8568Ай бұрын
This is is one of the hardest to find but most elegant in retrospect solutions I've seen. And great advice on how to get started. (I hit some of the traps myself) Thanks for the video!
@PrimetimeNut5 жыл бұрын
I have trouble calculating a reasonable tip after dinner, why am I here?
@rextransformation74185 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHA!!
@Adraria85 жыл бұрын
Yeah I suck at arithmetic but am decent with more proofy/logic type math like this
@MassDynamic5 жыл бұрын
current "hard" math is not about arithmetic.
@dudere5 жыл бұрын
Knock a digit off the end of the bill. EX 25.85 becomes 2.58. Round to make it easier, and because no one likes pennies, 2.60. Now, if you loved your service double that amount. 5.20. If the service was ok ad half of the 2.60, so 2.60+1.30= 3.90. This is easy enough if you write it out or you get a second to think with no one bugging you but when everyone is staring at me I have a really difficult time doing it in my head.
Can you make an hour long video with those clicks please?
@u.v.s.55835 жыл бұрын
Buy a Geiger counter, travel to Japan, thank me later.
@mission1015 жыл бұрын
U.V. S. Fukushima specifically
@dauletbekishev5 жыл бұрын
try to watch some "osu!" gameplay if you want to hear more 'clicks'
@schellybelly25465 жыл бұрын
@@dauletbekishev Not gonna lie, because of this comment. Imma go play some OSU now. Want more clicks, so thanks!
@sophiacristina5 жыл бұрын
I can synthesize clicks for you if you want...
@HappyBeezerStudios5 жыл бұрын
An interesting problem with a beautifully elegant solution. In addition, it seems so obvious afterwards, but is really cryptic trying to adress without knowing the result. Those logical parts were always my favorite in maths. All the way back to fractions. They are such an elegant way of describing stuff.
@ranveergupta43 жыл бұрын
An appreciation would be much less for such type of videos. It just blew... Mathematical passion brings you here and what vibe this channel gives is always a real pleasure to have! Thanks for such a beautiful video.
@nchoosekmath5 жыл бұрын
As a person who was into IMO when I was in high school, this is such a beautiful problem and its solution is extremely beautiful! For people who are into problem solving when it comes to 'general case n', I totally agree with 3Blue1Brown that starting small is the key. You will not see the insight of the problem if you just say 'let n be an integer'. Play around with n=2,3,4,... and try to see a pattern first.
@fxyang19895 жыл бұрын
The Don Quijote de la Mancha reference at the end really got me. I love it.
@baguettegott34095 жыл бұрын
...and it gets me again every time I rewatch it. Something about it is strangely touching.
@bigcitybuslines38723 жыл бұрын
tilting at windmills
@Yossus5 жыл бұрын
That social takeaway seems so important to me, I've also observed it teaching Physics. In the new school year, I'm going to try to make it a part of my lessons, and see whether it helps both me and the students communicate better in the classroom
@swanclipper5 жыл бұрын
hmmmm, soylent pizza.
@hallu6666 Жыл бұрын
Extraordinary exposition. This is how love for mathematics is born. It would be helpful to pose such questions to very young minds even in junior schools without demanding formal proofs; just watch how they tackle the conceptual part. Love your videos.
@DarkCloud75 жыл бұрын
The channel is growing so fast. You deserve it. Great work as always. (Also I don''t look as much like a math geek in front of my friends when considering how many people watch your videos.)