TBSkyen reacts to Marvel Rivals character design (part 2)

[@NickyBoi]

Jeff

[@boredhuman6512]

Jeff

[@Joker-hv6du]

Jeff

[@elexer4835]

Jeff

[@Springy05]

Jeff⁴

[@gamertulga6983]

Jeff

[@dunstonlion1342]

Everyone is here for the Jeff review, right? I kinda wish he'd gotten to see the character's in game animations. The fact that he eats a fish to reload, the fact that he backpedal swims when you walk backwards, the fact that he friggin hums the start of the jaws theme when you do his shift ability in game. PERFECT.

[@JAE_1209]

Fun fact the enemies can also hear him humming

[@dunstonlion1342]

@@JAE_1209 I didn't know I could like the character more, and here you come to brighten my day.

[@luxthewriter]

He also has a special animation for when he digests all enemies inside him, for not getting any enemies, his melee changes depending on if he is moving forwards or backward, it’s insane

[@sidhartarodriguez8447]

And the dolphin skin was meant for him to swim in the ocean because he loves going to the beach but doesn't want to scare people

[@Trailblazer1002]

In defense of Hawkeye, Ronin is a very classic thing at this point and he always moves past it to be himself again but now with swords. Which I think is kinda hype

[@Grimjr7]

And Ronan wasn't even an MCU thing. That was a marvel comics thing. They just added it to the MCU.

[@yarriahgraves4334]

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[@nocturnalniceties6585]

Skyen's reaction to Hawkeye is funny to me because I have a friend who loves Hawkeye and he was *so* excited to see he had the swords because technically those were the first weapon that Clint learned to use in the circus (before bow & arrow). As per comics, Clint has been both a sword guy and a bow guy from the beginning, it's just the bow is now more his signature because he's just *so good* with it, heheheheh.

[@Sacration]

True

[@Ixs4i]

also, he references the ronin stuff as an mcu thing but that happened in the comics first too no?

[@DastardlyDavid69]

@@Ixs4iyeah. Ronin was a footnote in the mcu. In the comics he was ronin for a while when everyone thought he was dead.

[@mloxard]

Also the game talks about his Ronin era

[@itsjustdewieman]

I really feel like the grounded hawkeye just couldnt work in such a fantastical multiverse level game such as rivals, where everything gets turned to 11 whether character design or game design wise. I also feel like hawkeye was always a bit of absurd and normal at the same time, so much so he was the running joke of many marvel fans. "Just a guy with a bow" couldnt work in rivals, so leading into his more ronin aspects with his unreal martial skill fits alot more in my opinion. He also just appeals in a fun way to alot of hawkeye fans (me) since he finally gets to be "cool" and less of a punching bag in media for once. Like finally my guy gets to be cool and they give him edgy 90's "cool level 5000" cool.

[@TakumiTheFAUSTScientist]

"Jeff is Perfect" I couldn't agree more Skyen

[@PlayWatch_616]

8:00 Adam Warlock was genetically engenered to be te perfect speciment, so yes, he is shredded because they litterally made him so

[@notsogreatjagras4314]

Plus despite being a healer he can half heath you in an instant.

[@gmlg]

His original name was , HIM

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

@@gmlgThey must have amnesia, they forgot that he’s HIM

[@drlibro2669]

100% HIMalayan

[@MrMetal-xe8lg]

Came straight outta HIMbuktu

[@Ducktagon]

One of my favorite touches for Hela's team-up with Thor and Loki is, mechanically, if Loki or Thor die, Hela can revive them by killing an enemy. The reason they give lore-wise is that Hela is just fed up with them in the kind of "I'm tired of your constant visits, GET OUT OF MY REALM" way lol.

[@yourluckynumber7]

"I TOLD YOU TO NOT GO IN MY ROOM, GET OUT!!!!!!!" vibe from her. really a true sibling dynamic

[@andrellnogueira]

​@@yourluckynumber7 I *Think* this hela is loki's daughter, so they're more like your relatives that come for dinner and never leave lmao

[@fabioherrera859]

​@@andrellnogueiraYeah both in Myths and Comics, Hela is the daughter of Loki.

[@rominaboj1619]

@@andrellnogueira Like a Golden and a Black Dog going to bother the cat.

[@FlubbedPig]

I assume the sexualization on Hela's Empress of the Universe costume is mainly a consequence of wanting to show more skin because they have that transluscent skin effect on it. The more you cover her up, the more you're covering up a major point of interest in the design.

[@thiago.leal17]

By the time Skyen is finished, we will have more characters to analayze, an infinite cycle

[@hannahs.7297]

all hail skyen’s rambles

[@RoboThePanda]

10:30 Groot 17:55 Hawkeye 31:02 Hela 51:32 Iron Fist 1:00:07 Iron Man 1:12:27 ✨JEFF✨ 1:18:41 Loki

[@jamescook5783]

I was going to do that same thing but a see I was beaten to the punch. Thank you. Hope you get to the top of the comments.

[@MoonlightBrillance]

Thank you !

[@SeeYouRyu2032]

Hello Mr Skyen, Lord of ADHD. You may have skipped over ALL the abilities for Iron Fist and Iron Man, and Iron Man's mvp animations. Not asking you to go back just saying you blew past them after being distracted by Boss Baby Riven and then AI Iron Man and his ass plates.

[@n8nja835]

it's crazy how much he has to say with no script or time to think before. I always appreciate someone who just gets their raw thoughts out

[@TheLanach]

Not all heroes wear capes. Which is also works considering the subject of Marvel superhero design, many of which dont actually wear capes

[@hsemicolonc413]

My favorite part about Clint's design in this is that even though he looks like a typical ninja edge man he's still spouting dorky one liners & has a relatively average, not gruff & baritone voice. How he dresses does not dictate how he acts as a person & that's really cool.

[@aerickmon3350]

Cause Clint could never change The hairstyle shows off the most in his design that he still hasn’t changed, with all the dark armor then bright blonde comb over man bun

[@andrellnogueira]

I love that, honestly. I *love* the edgy aesthetic, but I *hate* the edgy personality, so this hawkeye is right up my alley. The only other character that could pull the happy personality with the edge style was nightwing, I'm happy we have another

[@danielz-v4083]

It reminds me a bit of Jotaro from Jojo’s, his design for part 3 particularly. He is this beefy 6.4 tall mean looking mf, sporting a CHAIN attacked to his collar, an open Black Japanese student jacket and his 230 dollar pants, but in reality he is a soft hearted nerd that thinks he needs to act cool in order to be the guy others need him to be .

[@clementgoh9270]

Clint as Ronin was a grumpy bitch but he was still wisecracking and being incredibly sarcastic (although this could just be what happens when you're in a Bendis comic)

[@colbyboucher6391]

I do like how the Freefall skin leans into this kinda dorky sportswear thing, though. Clint really looking like he could just be going to the Olympics.

[@marcz_7]

38:00 I think that Hela's shoulder piece is supposed to turn her whole silhouette into a sword, with her long legs imitating a sword blade. With her abilities revolving around throwing swords , I think it's a neat design choice c:

[@tektyrant]

That is very interesting if it is true

[@Zer0TheProdigy]

@@tektyrantI think it is. I’ve never been a fan of Helas headpiece but once Skyen pointed out her shoulder and neckpiece, I realized her pointed head gives her a kind of “tip” that looks like you can pick her up like a sword or toss her like a sinister javelin

[@kermitsudoku6446]

@@Zer0TheProdigyim just imagining somebody swinging hela like a sword 🤣

[@TheNoxian]

Adam is quite literally made to be the pinnacle of his alien race, so yes. Every tiny bit of perfection must be achieved. Even his name references the importance of his "birth".

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

His birth name was literally just “HIM”, bro was literally built different

[@liamwhite3522]

There's nothing to prevent more characters being added later

[@hellkaiser1366]

​@@halfmettlealchemist8076yeah they forgot he was HIM

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

@@hellkaiser1366 This shit ain’t nothing to HIM man. We smoking symbiotes

[@doubleoart07]

That’s what I was thinking too

[@SituationNormalGames]

If you want to get really technical with it, Jeff's first appearance was in West Coast Avengers Volume 3 #1 as a background landshark that writer Kelly Thompson saw and really liked. Now, technically, this isn't specifically Jeff, and Jeff himself wouldn't actually show up as a named character until issue 7 as Gwenpool's adopted pet Landshark. He's mostly a Gwenpool character, but Thompson has said that she doesn't think of him as pet so much as a little rascal who travels around the Marvel Universe, usually hanging out with Gwenpool or Kate Bishop. Highly recommend the "It's Jeff!" infinity comics. They're some very impressive wordless storytelling and absolutely adorable to boot!

[@ArseneL13]

Also when gwenpooles run ended she gave him to Deadpool so he wouldn't be forgotten when her run ended

[@gbong802]

@@ArseneL13that’s super cute and honestly kinda sad

[@aerickmon3350]

@@ArseneL13and a very Deadpool pet to have for him

[@conorclarke8427]

@@gbong802she knew she didn’t have much of a chance to be immortalised in comics but deadpool is one of the characters that would never ever stop being around so she hoped Jeff could get that safety and comic love by being near him

[@gbong802]

@conorclarke8427 that is honestly so cute of her and man that makes me so sad for her lol

[@eattherichiguess2701]

Something I just noticed about Hela's design is that in her default pose, she looks like a sword, or a dagger. Her shoulderpads makes up the crossguard and the collar works with the central spike of the crown to make a handle, and her crossed legs make up the blade.

[@Klausbro]

Hawkeye became the Ronin in comics in 2007, he’s used swords for almost two decades at this point consistently. This iteration is a mixture of him as Hawkeye and him as the Ronin, because it’s meant to take place after returning to the avengers post-vigilante arc

[@TraceyTra-kv1xe]

He had swords from the start but yeah he went ronin almost 2 decides ago

[@dannydoo8717]

He was trained by a guy named swordsman too

[@hellothisismufin]

The weirdest thing in this game to me so far is that there's no Deadpool considering he's a character that would objectively fit really really well into a shooter like this

[@MrLeft4doom]

Theres still time. I'd expect him to be added at some point.

[@kevinnosaurus793]

NetEase have this MOBA game with Marvel heroes called Marvel Super War. There Deadpool is character that can switch between melee and ranged mode and have an entire diff skill set for each mode. I think they can implemented this to Rivals , like Cloak and Dagger but it's just Deadpool instead 2 characters in 1.

[@dempstick7]

There are leaks of him being added soonish

[@godfii]

They can’t blow their whole load at once, Deadpool is insanely popular so his addition is definitely inevitable

[@yu6btemz]

He's VERY likely to get added in the future. Deadpool's popularity is so high devs would be stupid to pass on him

[@jordanpickering6912]

Adam Warlock is an alien that was genetically engineered at birth to be perfect. That's why he looks like that. He's a custom creation character by his parents. Classic Miranda from Mass Effect sorta situation.

[@Whorlminded]

To answer question at 1:13:04, he originally appeared in West Coast Avengers and got the name from Gwenpool. So technically it's both? Anyway, after wards he follows Gwen around and becomes apart of Deadpool's world and the larger marvel universe following Gwenpool Strikes Back Issue 3- where in her fear of cancellation and disappearing into irrelevancy she asks Wade to watch after him, allowing him to exist longer in the Marvel-verse.

[@chatyxd6078]

As a huge hawkeye fan, I think his designs work because of what the default is trying to do and because Hawkeye doesn’t have a consistent design. His original design has been deemed to goofy despite the fact that is was specifically designed by a carnie to emulate superhero costumes. Then we get stuff like freefall or ultimates where hawkeye has a more athletic design but is still extra enough to differentiate. His ronin faze has really stuck with the character which gives us the katanas and ninja vibes in a lot of new interpretations. And then the best run, Matt Fractions hawkeye, made him actually a regular guy and for as much as i love that run i kinda hate how that has become his default look. So Marvel Rivals is trying to use the ronin design, to explain the swords, while trying to keep it hawkeye and while I don’t love it I think it does its job. Ultimately i think that hawkeye hasn't really had a bad design because nothing has stuck; his classic is iconic, his post fraction design is his most populer look these days, and everything in the middle is a mix of the two.

[@PlayWatch_616]

i don't think you understand the design intent behind Groot, they didn't make him incredibly complex because this way he is more human looking, therefore more relateable so people can feel sefe around him, wich is the way he is meant to feel, someone to be safe around. Just saying because i actually like the design of Groot a lot

[@Ridlay_]

Yeah he’s the gentle giant type, he should have some softer simpler features despite being an angular tree monster.

[@BeyondTrash-xe1vs]

His head also resembles the shape of a leaf, at least to me.

[@ender1546]

I also thought about it. When TB Skyen started saying "Multiple limbs this and hollow trunk that" I thought "Yeah, cool, ALTHOUGH it will make him alien to the audience, less sympathetic maybe even"

[@eiriksundby]

he understands the intent

[@Evan-mt7bc]

Granted yes but at the same time there's also still a lot of friendly Ents in fiction that are just variations on manshape but tree that this iteration of Groot is really not doing anything new or special in the realm of his archetype. It's a good design in it's own right but if Groot is the 45th friendly Ent you've seen in your life you're kinda like "okay another Ent, next"

[@v.v365]

I actually grew to like how different the new Groot looks from the old Groot in the MCU, because at first, he was this tall lanky beast, which served Rocket’s purposes just fine but had to find ways to fit into the escapades of the Guardians as a new team, and that form didn’t survive their first big mission of saving the galaxy, so when he started to regrow he became something that could survive missions like that. His bulky frame allowed for weapons to be hidden inside him, while him being naked drew away suspicious guards who would check for weapons, he has better root shields, he can cover more distance quickly with his form closer to the ground, he can be the tank the Guardians need.

[@frostdragon7135]

One thing you didn't talk about with Groot is that he sort of has green, crystal like things in his shoulders, and he also glows a bit green from his arms and legs. It makes him seem almost a little magical, which I quite like personally.

[@kirbs7500]

Hawkeye becoming ronin and using swords is pretty important to his character. I'm glad they implemented both aspects of his character in this game

[@fallen_Spartan79]

Me too. But it's sad that Skyen kinda overlooked that aspect. To have it JUST be the archer part of Hawkeye would make him feel bland and limited.

[@KingChilled]

I look forward to these yap sessions Skyen, thank you 🙏🏿

[@bnwstudios9040]

Same here

[@hannahs.7297]

seconded!

[@dannmcdan2185]

Shame 3BSkyen skipped over my favorite bit of personification that Loki has. The freaking cheeky snap that Loki does when he swaps with his clone is so cool in its simplicity and it really gives off the energy that Loki is just showing off

[@charizardgamez447]

Watching thit plus maximilian dood's and Lilly's is awesome because they all disagree at some point I like hearing their different Prespectives.

[@wyldloganroth5303]

It's always so fascinating when different artists who are experienced in character design have wildly different opinions on the same thing. It's awesome

[@jeanrushmer8192]

Agreed 👏

[@captainmega6310]

Lilly?

[@181megadude]

In Mythology Hel gifted Odin his 2 crows, so she actually is aligned with crows. Especially with the whole 'being death' deal.

[@Devspace007]

Yea marvel norse mythology is very different from what it's from but each of the small details like that at least justify the names.

[@Carnival_soda]

Sorry, huge norse guy here, where are you getting that hel gave him his ravens? I've been scouring and i cannot find that anywhere!

[@liminalsoup]

odin has ravens not crows tho, no?

[@HDracon]

Based on what I an seeing online. Odin has 2 ravens not crows and there is no origin of where they came from. They just always with him. So where you getting info that states Hel specifically gifted them to Odin

[@marfex6014]

There is a really cool detail worth checking out. In lore section each character has a signature which is a really cool detail that gives them even more character.

[@hamburgerguy85]

One of the details I love about groot, and that imo kind of fixes Skyens complaints about him, is that in game flowers and sprouts grow around his feet wherever he walks. It makes him feel so much more like a gentle giant that he is portrayed as (when not beating people to death)

[@arcredemption7603]

It was interesting hearing you talk about Hawkeyes outfit. Since I’ve mostly heard positives, I liked the other perspective. Personally I think it’s really clever to combine the Ronin and classic Hawkeye costumes.

[@raisylvaine8398]

22:03 “why’s it called Freefall?” Ignores the “First appeared in Hawkeye: Freefall”

[@TulpechaidoplaysMC]

45:04 no, Odin’s are ravens, not crows Different bird, different symbology

[@alyceblak1524]

If I had to guess on the loki horned helmet thing, it might be a reference to the idea of him being a Satan analogue in the attempt to rewrite and christianize norse lore in that one book, which if true, is a fun cut.

[@patrickyao3987]

I think my only issue regarding the sexualization was the point about committing to either the seductress or the efficient killer. I feel that makes more sense in a League or Overwatch champion design where you only have limited time and visual space to convey the character, but when it comes to Rivals where the character already has decades long established lore and characterization that the design is trying to capture, committing to the all or nothing approach makes less sense. The best example I can think of is Taskmaster, he’s ruthless, efficient, mercenary, etc, but the man is also kind of goofy. His own miniseries leans hard into that, his complete realism about his abilities making him turn and run while internally screaming when faced with anyone who is capable of killing him, his refusal to remove the Halloween skull mask when on the job, even when the job is cheating at golf tourney resulting in him putting in full mercenary gettup. So I feel any theoretical deign whose goal it is to capture the whole of the character would need to be sell the scary efficient killer, but would probably need to acknowledge, at least a bit, the inherent silliness of the man and his skull mask, even if it doesn’t fully mesh with the overall air of menace. With widow it’s harder to draw that line since almost all women in comics get sexualized to the point where it enters the characters lore/personality to some extent, but I’d say her using her sexuality as another tool in her spycraft is so inherently baked into her character at this point that emphasizing it slightly in the otherwise ‘efficient killer’ message her design is going for is more representative of her character as a whole, even if it makes the first read of the character design to someone new to the character a bit more ambiguous.

[@captainmega6310]

That's valid

[@RokoMarkov]

So to quickly answer about Adam Warlocks dorito bod, in the comics he was an artificial alien designed by a crazy alien race obsessed with genetic purity to be their ubermensh leader, but instead he becomes a space hippy wizard druid- that the premise at least Also those iron man energy gloves on Cap in the last vid were magnetic and the idea is he uses them to attract the shield to him- it was in the movies, they have it often in the comics, but it is communicated only by the blue glow on the gloves and the shield so i agree it doesn't really work in this design

[@Oniri]

8:28 With Adam, he was basically made to be the perfect being and worshipped as a god by an alien cult. Thus, it actually makes sense for him to both yolked and over the top with his outfit.

[@bfeldz1023]

Multiple alien cults if you also include The Magus.

[@squishyazalea9970]

Death and hela are separate characters in marvel Also bruh he skipped the mvps for iron man

[@Motleydoll123]

Yeah. Death in marvel be a skeleton.

[@makito106]

1:02:48 Tony having a fatter @ss than Black Panther is so funny. Me and my friend had a good chuckle when we noticed. Tony doesn't skip squats and he wants everyone to know lol

[@Zombie4harts]

I mean it fits with how he presents himself to the people around him like “yes of course I do squats. I need to make sure I look good for the camera at every angle”

[@Vektorien545]

8:16 Adam being made artificially as the intended peak of human evolution does in my view bring some ideas of the old greco-roman pursuit of beauty in the physique. I think that's the sort of angle that makes his design lean towards a well developed musculature. Him being physically imposing is only secondary to him looking "perfect".

[@Zer0TheProdigy]

Saw a comment on the last video with someone saying he has Golden ratio symbols or something to that extent on his cape, so that tracks

[@floriandolder8111]

Jeff, my sweet perfect shark child.

[@gg_sam7847]

For Galactic Hela I got the vibes she's more of a "I am near invincible, all powerful, I have achieved true godhood" and she dresses in a way that displays the confidence that comes with that

[@MrRedGreenBlue1]

I will always remember Superior Iron Man for that scene where Tony grants everyone his intelligence and then Reed Richards goes "I actually think I just became dumber"

[@lagartoloco94]

The cake is where Tony keeps the life raft in case of a crash landing

[@kayame18]

The Hawkeye comic han mentions is Hawkeye by Matt Fraction & David Aja published in 2012. And yes it's really really good more a slice of life cape comic.

[@coruscanta]

Was just scrolling to see if someone else had answered that. One of my favorite runs!

[@KaroChase]

35:17 Deathc is a a chareacter in Marvel comics as in the concept of Death si Hella i think embodies an aspect of Death as she is simply the godess of it but that is just mine interpretation oso it may be wrong

[@greenquimera7600]

If pay close attention to the mouse placing, you can see Skyen physically restraining himself from imidiatly commenting on Ironman's @ss. Gotta respect the profecionalism

[@confusedcabal342]

One of the things that genuinely confounds me about the choices the designers made for Black Widow is that this version of the character (the one from Marvel Rivals) is well over a hundred years old. According to the lore blurb she ages extremely slowly due to super soldier-adjacent serum. And like- come on!! This could have been such a unique take! At least give us a gray streak in her hair or something!!

[@brycebitetti1402]

I think that's just a tidbit from the comics that they carried over. She also ages extremely slowly due to a serum in the main continuity as well.

[@keithgarner2759]

Im genuinely interested to see Skyen's thoughts on sexualization with Luna Snow. Shes meant to be a K-pop idol and that is,unfortunately, a big part of the industry

[@gokbay3057]

He is perfectly fine with sexualisation when it has a place and that certainly is an example where the sexualisation is there for an actual reason rather than "Is girl so has to be hot".

[@KakhaPrime]

the loki s2 costume is on point. the loafers and horns included

[@keithgarner2759]

I think it be helpful to know in the lore of the game, the Wakandan empire is sponsoring a global resisantance, which explains Captain America working with them

[@erickcarvalho7314]

I don’t know if it’s official or not, or if someone else has noticed or mentioned, but I believe that Hela’s neck piece is supposed to make her silhouette look like a sword to fit with the sword theming she has. It kinda makes sense when you look at this perspective, but I personally don’t quite like the look of it. 🙃

[@tehawsumninja]

Since no one else has said it - Yes, it did sound like he said "Iron Man" underneath his breath at 1:00:08 , Skyen. You didn't hallucinate that

[@kingcr1mz0n71]

Me sitting waiting for him to talk about the best girl, Squirrel Girl. Also side note, Skyen "man why did they make cosmic hela sexy?" Me trying desperately to hide Death and her design

[@synderthmc]

Just noticing, hela CANNOT do a split. At all, or have her legs at an 75 degree angle, attempting to do so would stab her in the waist. Also, ironman in endgame was not technoorganic it was nanomashines that then form a suit

[@Motleydoll123]

Lol. Indeed😂 at least with the default and ultimate.

[@dasnack]

David Aja is the Spanish artist you are looking for Hawkeye, with Matt Hollingsworth in color department. His Iron Fist run is also really nice if you are looking for something when you reach Iron Fist.

[@oppo-mm3xh]

Honestly at the beginning, the black widow program what is making beautiful and sexy woman turn into an non feeling assassin agent. So technically she's supposed to be sexy AND non feeling only focus on the mission. I think that's the point of her character. To me your opinion is very specific but I can understand on the context of visual storytelling

[@gingersndragons]

18:00 your thinking of hawkeye: my life as a weapon matt fraction and david aja. my favourite marvel comic

[@Artemis_666]

The black hole in hela's skin is so good, cause death eats everything/nothing escapes it, and a black hole can be the same idea on a cosmic scale. i think showing more skin in it makes sense, cause u want the black hole to be seen/accessible and also, it draws your gaze toward the black hole, which draws in everything, which may be unintentional but still works

[@Daemonworks]

Loki's helmet is basically just an exaggerated riff on the trope of the viking horned helmet.

[@nexter1214]

Hawkeye currently is using his experience and time as Ronin to incorporate more swordplay into his combat so him using his sword in the Galactic MVP animation does feel like something he'd do, just not something the old Hawkeye would do

[@ImNotGoodAtAnimation]

Man I can't wait for part 3, part 4 and part 5, all of them will be feature film length

[@hellothisismufin]

The thing that's killing me about Hawkeye is that he's not emoting in his MVPs at all. He's supposed to be a show-off, but he seems really disinterested in the tricks he's performing. Like... isn't he supposed to be showboating??

[@Motleydoll123]

That's a bit of missed opportunity... Hawkeye might look and occupy a similar niche to many other famous archer characters as we have seen many times now... so many have the stoicism turned up high. Hawkeye being a showoff would give him some contrast. Like I could see an mvp of him biting into an apple casually throwing it over at the pov... then we get the arrow splitting it as the camera is lined up for Hawkeye to have bow been just loosed.

[@captainmega6310]

Hawkeye in this game is mostly serious tho

[@Tundra_Hunter]

Ye but why, theres already loads of serious characters

[@cleo3228]

Youre thinking of matt fraction's "my life as a living weapon". Pretty much THE hawkeye comic lol

[@mortexia]

1:12:29 The only important part. Lets welcome the goodest boi

[@gingersndragons]

jeff came from westcoast avengers, which did involve gwenpool at the time. after that gwenppol was his owner, but she gave him to deadpool incase she didnt get anymore books. now hes with kate bishop

[@Pedropaulopoloni]

1:20:02 wait, are you telling me Loki can shapeshift from a Hawk to a Seal? Impressive.

[@zFrizzi]

1:21:08 as someone who's main idea of what a viking looks like comes from Vinland Saga, you just described them exactly how I imagined it

[@Undead_Grius]

Can't wait to hear if jeff design appeals to the Gay Man Lesbian Woman gaze

[@julio1148]

Bro you need an internet break

[@Bombetina_Again]

To be honest I like those videos with less preparation, I think it's natural like talking to a friend.

[@joshuafuentes6595]

Adam is literally made to be the pinnicle of everthing a living being can be, so i think him being muscular makes sense.

[@bunnarchist8965]

I think Skyen is the first person I've seen who doesn't vibe with the Hawkeye design. I really enjoy it personally just cause it does fit his style in this game, but i can understand the critiques

[@cardmaster8772]

He rarely likes cool shiet. Having Hawkeye design with elements from his Ronin experience is a great mix, which is why the outfit in Marvel Rivals is interesting. Instead of having 2 separate characters, they merged Hawkeye and Ronin into 1, which works for Clint.

[@Post-Ioooo]

1:20:02 Missed opportunity to say "and a hawk too"

[@thespectro-]

Some observations - You forgot to see the Iron Man MVP - Sometimes you forgot to see the first appearance in some skins, for Example, Hela Empress of Cosmos (Original of Marvel Rivals) or even some recolors, like Jeff Adopted Avenger So with the first appearance you can search to compare the desings, maybe like addition to next videos - Some emotes are from a pack of the skins, like for example, Doctor Strange God of Magic, the emote of that skin its the staff he use in that comic, or MCU skins, a emote reference something of the movies or series

[@Zamtrios245]

14:40 "I like the feet" - TBSkyen, 2024 Fair, though, it does make his body a bit less human 20:25 I.... am Batman! 22:34 Hawkeye is the Krillin of the Avengers. Kinda just a guy that's very good at a specific kind of fighting, but that's it 33:57 The people in Valhalla are doing the greatest pre-game for the greatest rager ever 1:02:43 Tony Stark is generally categorized as some degree of vain and arrogant. Of course he would make the suit perfectly mold to highlight his ass 1:11:45 It's a wild thing to say, but you're right 1:20:12 The Devil from The Bible, probably. An evil scheming manipulator/trickster that acts as an opposite to the good guy 1:23:31 (Trump voice) I have a crown! I huge crown, they say, the biggest even. I met with (insert senator/governor/world leader/talking head) and he/she said "wow Donald, you have such a big crown", and it's true

[@thegoose8663]

39:34 Fun fact - Bayonetta is a short queen. Even if we count her silly tower hair and heels she's NOTICABLY shorter than any other character. Exceptions are Enzo (built like a penguin) and children.

[@petermarvy3218]

I feel the horns on Loki are propably mostly taken from the fact Stan Lee didn't knew that much about norse mythology and just kinda went with a lot of ideas from judaism and christianity. I feel like originaly horns on Loki were very devil coded (not to mention Hela who have like, kinda devil implications). The other thing: Jack Kirby really loved to design a iconic hat for his characters. A lot of Kirby designs, have those very extravagant hats. Galactus is very good example of it. Also i am not 100% sure but i think some of the visual language Jack Kirby used in his designs were somewhat inspired by Aztec art? At least i think its where those ideas for headwear and those more geomatric patterns come from Also i remember in some comic books Iron Man armors very much have abs. So i guess its true for character of Tony Stark to make an armor that shows how hot he is under it (and i guess the differences in approach beetwen Rivals Iron Man and Endgame Iron Man is that the Rivals one is single while Endgame one is married)

[@groundedfan7724]

Its all my fault. Thanks self for making skynen yap, love it

[@cleo3228]

I adore loki's season 2 outfit because it perfectly represents his character arcs. His outfit is incredibly simple, but still finely made. He still wears a crown, but one of rock or maybe jade, not gold. At the end of the season he sacrifices a lot and in doing so learns to wield immense amounts of power, but in service to others, not himself. So he still wears the garb of nobility but more as a signifier of responsibility then out of a need to announce himself as ruler.

[@problempal5395]

Interesting that they gave iron fist a Sword master skin instead of, you know, putting sword master in the game

[@stevenhedge2850]

Well he is sword master so it makes they gave him his old look

[@problempal5395]

@stevenhedge2850 huh so he is, thanks for letting me know

[@AlexA-ie5zv]

​@problempal5395 yeah they are the same person he used to be sword master then he trained in chi and became the iron fist

[@phantasticgoose]

Jeff just makes me smile even if I’m sick af rn and in pain basically everywhere. Also his animations commit even harder to the cuteness - he eats a little fish to reload, he hums the jaws theme while he’s wandering around in his shift ability, and his backwards movement is the cutest backpedal animation possible.

[@squishyazalea9970]

Him dunking on hawkeye so much, i love how the whole fan base really liked it including myself.

[@WCA_Arts]

I’m so glad that TBSkyen also understands that Jeff is the most perfect, precious, bestest boi.

[@szymonlewandowski9690]

I wish modern media wasnt so afraid of putting Hawkeye in his old triangular mask

[@halfmettlealchemist8076]

I think his Space Kamen Rider skin is meant to be a sneaky reference to his classic costume since the helmet is a similar shape to his original mask, which I think is cool! It's a nice modern re-imagining of a very goofy design

[@HobGungan]

​@@halfmettlealchemist8076 I was coming here to say that. The space skin is totally his classic costume just with a super sentai overhaul. Even has the H on his belt.

[@majikerpfilms6282]

Something that I don’t know if you mentioned, but it’s something I find extremely interesting is if you can notice, whenever you turn the character model, the character(s) will always attempt to turn their faces to look at you, even changing poses in some cases. Unlike Overwatchs where you only pivot the idol animation of the character, here they made them actually alive even within the previewing screen.

[@lorik2005]

1:11:25 this suit isn’t so much “what if iron-man but apple” so much as “what if iron-man but tesla”

[@Mickey-bl5lt]

Adam driver screaming: MORE. MOOORE!

[@cakemanLHK]

Hela's whispy cloak reminds me of the portrayal of Hel in "Jul i Valhal" (which is supect you are familiar with), where she is also cloaked in (an associated with) fog and mist.

[@ahumanoidtroodon1074]

Insanely true Jeff take, 10/10 video

[@joseantoniogomezrodriguez1724]

4:15 you explaining that character is exactly Bart Curlish from the Netflix show Dirk gently. She's an cold uncaring assasin, named herself holistic assasin, she kills everyone she cames in contact and is virtually invencible. She is soaked in blood from her victims, fresh and dry, her hair is always a mess and she only cares for the kill. And she doesn't even like to kill, is like a job and she's careless because the universe always keeps her safe

[@saguierdimas]

16:00 James Gunn actually confirmed that Groot died in the first movie, and the one we see in the following films is technically his son.

[@FancyTophatDude]

I'd say cool and sexy are the default for male and female respectively. And 90% of these characters fall into that.

[@nathanaelfrederic2496]

Awesome, a new Skyen video. Kinda except a longer video but I will not bitch about it. Really good content as usual man, keep the good work

[@DinoJoworge]

"Thank you skyen" we say in unison

[@Fivesallround]

1:23:03 I did not you had adhd, but as a fellow adhder, everything makes sense now about why I love your videos. Also I FEEL that medication rationing thing. Also sometimes I don’t take it when I’m trying to have a fun discussion, really lets me make creative discussion points.

[@MoonlightBrillance]

Looking forward to the next one! I live for these videos. You always offer an interesting and unique perspective on character design. Edit: I agree with your opinion on Widowmaker’s design. The Winter Soldier is a great example of a character who lives only to kill and look how unhinged and unkempt he looks! Widowmaker works much better when they emphasise her creepiness and how dangerous she is rather than sexy. Imagine someone irl trying to be sexy whilst having zero emotion, passion and living just to kill. It would be pretty uncanny lmao and it works better when they emphasise that.

[@IronSalamander8]

Please do keep doing it. Been really enjoying this.

[@Bombetina_Again]

It's my first time seeing his model, so I like to imagine that when he relaxes his arms they disappear into his torso and underneath he only has feet with no legs.

[@witchBoi_Connor]

Maybe they got the horns thing for Loki from Pan?? Like just that kinda cultural association.

[@thiago.leal17]

The thing I don't like about Lin Lie's gameplay is that he still uses his sword as the Iron Fist, as the shards got into his arms but he managed to control them to make a hand blade, kinda like assassin's creed. My assumption is that they wanted to make a generic Iron Fist gameplay so they can add other Iron Fists as skins