3D Printed EDF RC Seagull Full Build | Planeprint

[@andrewgibbs5043]

Hey Troy, you're really close to success here, please don't give up! Observing how the bird behaves shows it has insufficient yaw stability - its always yawing to the left under the influence of the EDF unit's torque. This is likely relatively easy to fix - possible solutions include (i) add a transparent extensions to the vertical surfaces using thin clear plastic sheet; (ii) make up some seagull feet and add them to the model, positioning them so that they add vertical area as far back as possible, (iii) make a new, longer tail, or better (iv) reposition the existing tail at a greater distance behind the seagull body (could make up an extension piece to achieve this). Option (i) would be very easy to implement. Moving the balance point slightly further forward will assist marginally in increasing yaw stability. Hope this helps :-)

[@viesturssilins858]

I really like the idea about using feet as airodynamic surface!

[@T-rexTino]

Hello I also printed it and immediately put a 50mm edf in 3S. I told myself that she would never fly with the 40. Well done for your videos.

[@dronedadfpv4541]

You are a good sport for admitting your failures along with your success. Great attitude man! It seemed a bit underpowered/heavy to my inexperienced eye. Have a great evening!

[@Dartheomus]

Did this thing crash immediately? No video of the flight at all?

[@davidpiper3652]

Reduce the weight with no fan and a smaller battery and slope soar it. It looks really good.

[@spaul85vin-husky]

Unfortunately not enough directional stability due to high wingspan/low rudder arm Anyway, looks spectacular!

[@jdduncan]

Hey Troy we have built 4 of these and 3 of the 4 are flying well. We had to use the FMS 50mm fan and mods because we could not get the 40mm EDFs. I just don't think the 40mm EDF has enough thrust for this design. Here is a link to one of the flights on my seagull: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKSZi32PfsiDY6c

[@hkk5790]

Hey, are you still running on 2s or 3s for the 50mm fan? Thinking of the same fan, don’t want it to be underpowered.

[@jdduncan]

@@hkk5790 We are running 3S 1300Mah packs.

[@hkk5790]

@@jdduncan one more question, did you create a new mount for the 50 fan? Surely the stock one won’t fit, how did you mount it?

[@TheMarcball]

Thank you sir for sharing this, cool build, and watching the crash counter go up and up made me feel better about myself... Thanks for the inspiration and keep on trucking!

[@impuls60]

The moment he said it was windy I knew it was going to crash^^. Clean build!

[@MasboyRC]

This is awesome 👍

[@knowledgebyte]

Lovely build. More power Scotty! She can-ne take it captain, she can-ne take it. Better fan or motor is required, as that thing needs about 20% more thrust I’d say. See the Grumpy Modellers KZbin channel. He does a lot of ducted fan jets.

[@craycle]

Nice Build! I am still thinking your problem on Cg position. I feell that ıt's a little bit tail heavy.

[@fendyrony3264]

Great plastic bucket to scare crows in the garden! )))

[@doronfpv]

The paint job 🔥the video like always 💯💙

[@pepper_guy]

Great channel Troy! Just a quick question, I flew RC airplanes in the past for a number of years and I’m thinking about purchasing a 3D printer. Can you recommend a printer for a beginner that will still allow me to print the planes you build? TIA.

[@Abuzuzu1]

Good performance, well done .. Hoping succed next time .

[@маратаминев-в6з]

You need to mix it on you RC pad like a flying wings drive type. Cause it dosent have elevator. May be you need to fix the gate, it dose nt needable to fly with this aircraft. Amazing art and hand work!

[@stejer211]

"My airplane is clearly underpowered, so let's put wheels on it!"

[@RC-planes.]

And nice paint (it's so realistic) good job guys

[@mikenowland2739]

I can see a Pterodactyl in your future. Aced the paint job Mrs Troy 👍

[@weirdsciencetv4999]

You might consider split ailerons. This way you can get both roll, pitch and yaw control from the wings alone. You might still mix in rudder too.

[@28th_St_Air]

Heck, Skip the EDF, cover the air inputs to reduce drag, and try to slope soar it instead. It might need 10+mph to work but the realism of gliding it silently would be very satisfying.

[@richardhallyburton]

There is a glider version of this model. I immediately thought it would be a better glider than an EDF plane

[@rcpowres]

Good job!

[@ignatplatnitski429]

Thats amazingly cute! Paintjob awesome incredible. Eyes looking so realistick! Thats also cool about everything that you build got optimistick smile. Nice team buddy, next time will be better!😎🤘💪

[@mrvolksmad]

No rudder authority I'm thinking....

[@josephjolly1936]

Good morning Troy, I am in the process of printing and building the sea gull, everything is going well. Where did you purchase the carbon fiber rods. This project has taught me a lot about 3d printing and using Cura. Thanks for the great videos. Happy flying.

[@Мистербин-ы2г]

Bro, Will you buy these models?

[@franyelpaulino906]

Good video

[@InspGadgt]

I haven't flown EDFs yet myself but from my conversations with locals who do...EDFs need a bit of head wind to get air borne So you probably need more wind to launch...typically I see them launching in at least a 15mph head wind or more.

[@mgargon1952]

Hi Troy I built it too ; but I am wondering how to set the mixing program to fly the seagull could you please advise ? Best regards

[@chubscub]

Print Pilot has posted videos on how to setup and fly this thing properly

[@brsrc759]

Super awesome bro! Subbed 😎🤙

[@AerialWaviator]

Looks so nice, but appears to on heavy side, or lacking in power as never really climbed. Heard you state was 610g with battery. Looking at PlanePrint, they state should be ~560g. It may be worth some effort to do a thrust test on the EDF, as the bird also didn't seem to pick up much speed. I've seen other videos where it climbs at 15-20º angle from launch. I'm not familiar with EDFs, but appears to be some variation in thrust producing ability.

[@juanarias3560]

That EDF sound underpower. Maybe a higher ESC or maybe a bad motor. Still awesome video as always!

[@arifhasanmohin]

Awesome

[@docwunder1628]

Tailheavy i guess. It is more or less a plank. Cg is very important. But very nice build and of course amazing paint job. 😉👍

[@MrMtbeck]

What paint did you use?

[@PlaneFunRC]

Try taller tail feathers and angle the EDF to the left.

[@michaelbreen7756]

What EDF did you use, I think I bought the same one now I’m thinking twice about using it.

[@stevec7596]

I have the same one as well. Troy's sounded out of balance, which will rob some power. The lack of inlet ducting is hurting as well.

[@bellopez]

Hello, I am going to mount a seagull and I see that you mount an Emax servo on the tail. I really like these servos. Can you tell me their reference so that they fit on the tail and also for the ailerons. the EDF Turbine is the d 40 mm? Thank you very much for your video

[@ashleywhitehead3710]

Shame it didn't fly, looks awesome. EDF are cool but only really function well at higher airspeeds as they accelerate air to higher speeds and thus produce thrust at higher airspeeds allowing higher airspeeds to be achieved. This however comes at the expense of air volume. A prop is many times more efficient for the airspeed this model would operate at judging by its design. They also really need well designed ducting to work efficiently. The ducting design on that model is very bad. The model seems to have poor yaw stability as well. It seems to have been designed around how it looks rather than any aerodynamic functionality.

[@fyzobaba]

Hey Troy do u have the print settings for ASA filaments on direct drive printer?

[@xehaytecle932]

I want use this 3d foraling things before I want them in application

[@DavidTaghehchian]

Is it just constantly tip stalling?

[@dontravels21]

Next time you should build an emirates 777x

[@phillipwigley6806]

Hi Troy, Awsome video by the way. We are here in England UK. My mate made one. They do look great when decorated like your one. I helped him iaunch it . Very much the same result that you got. It just didn't seem to have enough power for just a hand launch. It flew but he couldn't steer it. Then it stalled and nose dived into the worst place posible ( a farmers tarmac track). Breaking it into small peices. (Dow!) He also printed me a slope soaring version. I hope my slope soaring one fly's better. Did you ever get your ducted fan one to fly correctly? My mate has reprinted his to try again. But any tips you can pass on will be more than helpfull. We know the center of gravity is critical. Plus you need speed of air over the wings with ducted fan's to have any effect on the flying surfaces. Unlike a prop-on -the -front model that generates it's own wind. We are thinking like you of throwing it from a slope or maybe a bungy lauch may work? Also what static thrust was coming from yours? And what amps watts etc? I think this is more about animatronics than aeromodelling. Happy landings anyway from Phill W (wiggles)

[@nopy117]

did u register this with the FAA after you built it lol

[@pomanpomahovich9265]

Troy collect plastic goose -Hughes H-4 Hercules) like to go to the tops))Трой собери из пластика гуся -Хьюз H-4 Геркуле́с )лайк чтобы вышло в топы

[@hydragon_8570]

I’m still surprised you don’t have a cr 30 at this point

[@EnglishTurbines]

How many times do you have to crash it going left every time??? Didn't you recognise it needed some right yaw trim??...It barely has enough power but once it's trimmed it should be enough....I'm guessing you were trying to use the elevons all the time when clearly it needed Rudder trim ..🤔😳😳..It's a great looking Gull though, not sure an EDF like that is appropriate, the inlets and outlets don't look like they're efficient enough... I'd take the Fan out and fly it off a proper Slope or Beach location...

[@therc4784]

How do you get the Inside structure of your prints for your planes to print, because when I use Cura I can’t get the inside structure to print it only prints with infill

[@Vipcioo]

You must read the available instructions carefully and/or buy better glasses ;) The most important reason why only Cura prints this is the "Special Modes-> Surface Modes-> Surface" option. That's why you are failing.

[@franfilmmaker2794]

WHERE TO DOWNLOAD STL? THANK YOU

[@TBL_stevennelson]

That's a lot of pieces

[@SPEXWISE]

I've been enjoying your builds. Have you thought about designing a 3D printed hand launch glider? Do you think it maybe possible to make a DLG with a 3D printer?

[@johnpeters4214]

Can you please build the glider version of this model.

[@tumadsvids]

So where is the flight video?

[@enricovolante]

I gave up on this bird, unfortunately the edf is way underpowered. I hope planeprint will come up with a front propeller version

[@kendaughtry3908]

It appears underpowered and not enough vertical surface (rudder). I enjoy your stuff and you do a really good job. Still, 3d printed planes are way too fragile, I hope they get better with the designs. I just started using Polylite and I'm having issues. I suspect it has gotten wet since I opened the package. I've looked at reviews for this product but haven't found one that lists their print settings the way you do here. Would be great if you could print something with Polylite and give us your impressions.

[@RC-planes.]

Plz build a scale Cessna 172

[@aserta]

Check out FESTO's flying bird for a fun 'creature'.

[@andrewgibbs5043]

Feel free to pm me if you want to discuss further.

[@fyzobaba]

Good try and nice to see u building and flying again. I think it's more of under powered than been CoG problem.i hate EDF! Good luck next time.For me no way I'm printing this except it's a prop style.

[@paulradford4100]

It looked really promising with the build and I loved the idea of the wing attachment. It may have been my next purchase, having no prop to dig in to the ground. I was disappointed to see it wouldn't fly, even for someone with your knowledge of 3d printed planes. Maybe better not to waste my money on that then..

[@SharphandXeno]

Honestly it's not worth it on the 40mm fan which is the equivalent of a fart. Mine did the same exact thing. It needs at least a 50mm and a decent one at that.

[@tubamanandy2]

Looks a little underpowered but good build

[@debojitacharjee]

It didn't fly because of the wing design was wrong. It didn't follow the aerodynamic curve.

[@rodneytrotter2643]

Looked a bit underpowered and I cant believe the jet stream blows out were its ass would be.

[@GulliJ]

Too bad design, not enough rudder. Too low power for the high speed needed by weight But very nice looking Inspire from bird : use winglet as stabilizer and full tail rotating on herself. It will work

[@nipperdog7777]

To heavy, not enough power.

[@pushthebutton4602]

To heavy!

[@googleyoutubechannel8554]

Um, I assumed it just crashed repeatedly. Pretty disingenuous not to discuss the failure - a lot of 'tuber diy-why' vibes here, just make a honest account, no need for the crappy royalty-free musak, jumpcuts and info hiding.

[@kwhp1507]

Obviously it’s a terrible design

[@paulpat8180]

You didn't even show it flying?? what's up with that??