Paul Jurczak thank you. I've just made a gear without having to constrain the belt so there's no distortion along the teeth. I do this by simply having one outer ring with n teeth and the other with n+2. Will try and make a short video to show at some point. The key to making this actually useful is being able to constrain the assembly so it can transfer loads while dealing with all the sideways moments etc. Anyone know any good larger diameter bearings for this? I've got a lazy Susan bearing but it requires a clamping force to hold the faces together and that makes the mechanism harder to design.
@ahobimo7327 жыл бұрын
I was just watching videos on strain wave gears, and I had the same thought (to use a timing belt as the deformable element). But I could never have put the idea into practice as elegantly as you did here. This is fantastic work!
@simonmerrett7 жыл бұрын
Mark Osmond thank you for your kind words. I have improved the design from a mechanical perspective in my more recent video on the strain wave gear.
@ompatel52263 жыл бұрын
Amazing u have created a simplest and best design on whole KZbin
@MCRuCr3 жыл бұрын
It depends on the requirements of you solution
@das2502507 жыл бұрын
That is fantastic , thanks for sharing ..another practical 3d print exhibition. it also could be used to convert a microstepping stepper to no micro steps .
@lucianolizana4463 жыл бұрын
This is really cool !
@joshmnky7 жыл бұрын
It's amazing this isn't more popular. It seems like using a manufactured belt in lieu of a 3D printed flexspline could greatly increase durability. Friction isn't as much of an issue here as in 3D printed gears as well. I really think the potential cost savings and design flexibility could make this revolutionary for diy robotics.
@simonmerrett7 жыл бұрын
joshmnky thank you for your encouragement. There's a lot of development needed to get this as a functional gear. One idea that excites me is that if the mechanics can be sorted out, the wave generator arm might be able to be driven by a metal gear servo. If you modify it for continuous rotation and put the feedback potentiometer on the outer slow moving gears you could have a cheap closed loop gear.
@joshmnky7 жыл бұрын
+Simon Merrett I've been thinking about this, and it seems like I might be able to make a version with just my dremel drill press (don't have a 3D printer) and dremel circle cutter attachment. Some belt profiles have essentially round teeth that would fit perfectly into a drilled hole. If the gears were aluminum, do you think the belt would last under a great deal of torque? I want giant servo! haha
@simonmerrett7 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely no expert on the belts. Bear in mind they are flexed in the opposite direction they were designed for - I don't know if that's significant. If you can drill, cut and finish a tooth profile which prevents slip and isn't sharp (so it doesn't cut the belt), I can't see a reason this wouldn't work for a decent amount of time. Consider that I haven't tried spinning the wave generator quickly yet and others who've 3D printed their strain wave gears have seen the mechanism heat up in normal use. The profile of the wave generator arm that is in contact with the inside surface of the belt (the bearing edges) is also probably a factor in the torque you can transmit with this design because it determines how many effective belt/gear teeth are in contact with each other. I think Barton Dring used an array of bearings to create an oval, rather than the two I have at each end of the wave generator arm and his way may allow better contact area. Please post a link to your servo when you've built it!
@CatNolara5 жыл бұрын
I don't know how good this would hold up with high torque or with higher rpms. Some ideas to the design: -use bigger bearings to push against the belt so you get more teeth into contact -use a smaller belt, this way the teeth will only rub against eachother where the bearings aren't pressing on the belt -try to find a belt as wide as possible for maximum contact -preload the bearings with some kind of spring mechanism Anyway, in normal belt applications you have really good contact conditions because it literally wraps around the pulley. In this application though it has only proper contact to a couple of teeth and some just on the corners.
@mgiaros7 жыл бұрын
If this design could handle 500 w, 3000 rpm rc outrunner motor and a gear ratio of 100:1 it would be a revolution in mid drive e-bikes.
@janickjorgensen29644 жыл бұрын
As of now, they are very expensive to make
@mirceaar4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic job. How did you get the HTD 3M profile into the design? Using some OpenScad pulley design and revesing/subtracting it from a large block won't do the trick as it's not a reversible/symmetrical belt design.
@simonmerrett4 жыл бұрын
It's been so long I can't remember, sorry. But I do remember using the dimensions of the belt profile taken from diagrams. That said, my printer wasn't that accurate, so it may have been quite a rough estimated profile and some trial and error with print tolerances. The onshape files are probably still lurking somewhere publicly, although I don't touch onshape anymore.
@mirceaar4 жыл бұрын
@@simonmerrett Thank you for the answer, I sketched the reverse tooth profile in F360 and managed to create a toothed crown. Best of luck.
@BenryanALS4 жыл бұрын
Sleek engineering man!
@adisharr6 жыл бұрын
Very clever using a timing belt, this looks like one of the better designs. I would love to know how ling the belt would last, they;re usually pretty durable.
@amantin4 жыл бұрын
Questions : 1)Could you add add a third circle so that you have a compound ratio? 2) do you know any bicycle that works with this at its gears? Thank you!!
@simonmerrett4 жыл бұрын
Yes. I did consider doing this but got distracted away after making an unsuccessful initial attempt. I don't know any bikes which use this but perhaps their priority is being able to change gears and I don't know how you would change the ratio on this.
@FPChris3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been trying to print the belt with TPU
@SebastianOsterfeld7 жыл бұрын
Very nice! Not having to constrain the belt makes this gear more simple and intuitive. Is it possible to buy these parts somewhere as a kit? I would like to buy one, if it's not too expensive.
@simonmerrett7 жыл бұрын
Sebastian Osterfeld I'd wait until it gets developed into a more rigid design as it's quite "floppy". If you're happy with that and can't wait for something stronger, perhaps get a local 3D printing service like 3D hubs to make one for you. Use the thingiverse link in another comment on this video for the files.
@Pompiduskus7 жыл бұрын
This is awesome !
@simonmerrett7 жыл бұрын
Pompiduskus thank you. I realise I still owe people the files on thingiverse. Hopefully we can get a stiffer version, able to be used in robot arms. Barton Dring has a project on the go which looks promising. Check out his video of the prototype.
@Pompiduskus7 жыл бұрын
I saw same same principle but with 3 or 4 arms, and i like it to, because you have fore time the surface grip. If you could share the model files, i would like to help develop this model. In last couple days i saw something similar, but ridget body.
@JaredAllaway3 жыл бұрын
very cool!
@cyberspider789106 жыл бұрын
Can you put files on thingverse ?
@MatchaMakesThings Жыл бұрын
Did anyone ever find the stl/cad files for this?
@dorianmccarthy76025 жыл бұрын
In the cases where you are referring to either side of the arm, you're referring to each side of the arm. Either is one or the other and each, refers to both.
@jamesmatheson58134 жыл бұрын
I need a harmonic drive I can backdrive if you can recommend one Thanks for the video
@353click4 жыл бұрын
You can't back drive harmonic drives.
@simonmerrett7 жыл бұрын
270mm circumference, not diameter.
@3D_Printing7 жыл бұрын
"Speed Rings" are like washes but do not bind against the skate bearing
@simonmerrett7 жыл бұрын
The standard M8 washers seemed to do fine without binding but thanks for the tip
@SebastianOsterfeld7 жыл бұрын
One issue is that the red and black gears have slightly different diameters, so the timing belt will be twisted. Is there a way to improve that?
@simonmerrett7 жыл бұрын
Sebastian Osterfeld yes there is! I've tried to explain in the project log of my hackaday.io pages. The link is in a different comment on this video.
@simonmerrett7 жыл бұрын
Here's the link to a video explaining: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nprUZoR6mr2qY5I
@3D_Printing7 жыл бұрын
Looks like high Torque :can't work it out but 90 to 92 (45 to 46)
@simonmerrett7 жыл бұрын
Not sure about torque transmission yet but gear ratio is 46:1 (I think).
@NSAwatchesME7 жыл бұрын
nice
@simonmerrett7 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@simonmerrett7 жыл бұрын
Here are the files for this version: www.thingiverse.com/thing:2013137
@simonmerrett7 жыл бұрын
This is now a project on Hackaday.io for anyone who wants to join in: hackaday.io/project/19405-strain-wave-gear-with-timing-belts
@budasfeet7 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Looks great! 👍 Where can we find it on thingverse?