2017 Sea-Doo GTI SE 130 Salt Water Rental Project - Part 2 Engine Disassembly

[@cap2c484]

Amazing that that thing had almost 900 rental hours on it. Clearly the company that owned it must have followed a pretty rigorous maintenance schedule. I’ve now increased my expectations for my machines! Thanks for documenting and sharing your work!

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks for your comment

[@kel_bandz8462]

Rental company in Siesta Key beach florida has a 2015 Yamaha VX with 3,690 documented engine hours, do your maintenance and they will last

[@cap2c484]

@@kel_bandz8462 Wow!

[@3ftDeepChannel]

That's great news! Thanks for the info.

[@greggignac188]

I have 743hrs on my 2011 Gtx 215 is. Runs great but probably needs a new IBR.

[@peterearnshaw2895]

Good to see a tradesmen from my era with excellent trade skills and old school pride in what he does

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks, Peter!

[@nicksutton6123]

this makes me feel so much better about buying my ski. it was an ex rental with 365hours on it. been serviced well and it honestly still runs so damn well. they did tell me they have others with near 1000hrs and still going well. great video mate

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks, Nick. It gave us a lot more confidence in the integrity of older skis, too.

[@AuthenticTexas]

Great editing. The clicking of the torque wrench is almost melodic.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks, Texas!

[@Dreamvivid]

Excellent video. My purchased new, 2008 RXP is sitting at 226 hours. I’m impressed that so many hours went into that ski in such a short amount of time.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

So were we. They must’ve had a lot of business over those past two years!

[@trvman1]

and think how many $$$$$ they made over those 2 years :)

[@agentstevehaines9164]

A 900 hour salt water ski looked like that??!! Holy cow dude BRP FTW!

[@Platypus_Warrior]

Frequent oil change maybe?

[@agentstevehaines9164]

@@Platypus_Warrior oh definitely! But the fact everything is still that great of shape and so little corrosion is amazing no matter how good the service was. And rental units of anything get the piss beat out of them.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Ain't it the truth!

[@3ftDeepChannel]

No doubt about that.

[@TheRealKalEll]

No unnecessary parts, very clean and professional, high quality workmanship re: cleaning and torquing. EXCELLENT video!! Thanx4sharing thanx4caring.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks, Kal!

[@aarondashiell3488]

I am glad I bought a GTI 130 and. a 170SE. Granted I run in fresh water, but the engine still looks good after being a rental in salt water!

[@3ftDeepChannel]

It looks like if it’s well-maintained they could last you well over 1,000 hours. We’ve heard of machines that have lasted over 2,000 hours.

[@lonelybikr]

Thank you. I've never torn into a seadoo before and got a great offer for a 2017 with almost 900 hours on it and now I have a general idea of the mother layout. Should be a fun winter project.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Good luck and enjoy!

[@IHadToMakeThisAccount]

As someone who works on these everyday for the past 12 years, the reason why this looked so good is because its the a 130, and it’s probably have a Rental tune that reduces even more power to save fuel. Tear apart a SuperCharged one at 180 hours and there’s a hell of a lot more wear and tear. The 215’s had so much blow bu problems around 150 hours many wouldn’t stay running.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Hey, thanks very much for the feedback. Any idea what that reddish oil is? The best explanation we’ve heard so far is that it is stained red from the marked fuel.

[@kyletrump8025]

@@3ftDeepChannel lol, Mr 12 Years seemed to have disappeared 🤣

[@alloutdoors5358]

The 215 gtr. Always in the shop with major engine issues. Lots more maintenance needed with the high out put engines. Supercharger slip check etc.

[@danbush1249]

I use Mobile 1 full syn. in all my bikes ,cars, and Seadoo. My GM pickup is nearing 600k, and the motor sounds great. I got turned on to it , when we used to use it in the jet aircraft engines at work. I worked as a mechanic for Eastern Airlines back in 80's. In the jet engine, it goes in the gearbox, an gets pumped up to the turbine bearings, and thru out the whole engine. I change it every 100hrs. on the Seadoo like my manual states to do. Your engine is wearing down every hour it runs, might as well use the best oils to slow it down a bit.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks for the tip, Dan.

[@tilexceramics]

I have a 2013 Seadoo GTS130 rental with 1060 hours and I recently took it to my local Seadoo dealer. They were amazed how good it runs and amazed that still has strong compression. Also the jet pump was in great condition. They told me they were surprised it had 1060 hours by looking at the ecu data. I thought it had 360 hours as the cluster was replaced sometime before i bought it. I am amazed at how good these engines are if you look after them with regular servicing. And yes! it is all original! Seadoo confirmed that.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

That’s great to hear, Daniel. I have heard that they can go two thousand hours without having issues. I’m starting to believe it. Thanks for your comment.

[@tilexceramics]

@@3ftDeepChannel Wow that is incredible. I also know this jetski has lived its entire life in salt water. I use almost every weekend traveling between islands and it goes very well, has never let me down.

[@davem3789]

Nice video. When I rebuilt my 155 GTX I used my own ball hone with good results. My piston clearance was a little high and I had the skirts coated which gained back 0.001" OD and provided some additional wear resistance.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Nice. Thanks for the comment, Dave.

[@jackpinesavage9806]

Oil spray nozzles AKA piston cooling jets. Common on diesels. It was nice of you to take a perfectly good engine apart for us to be amazed at it's good condition!

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks, Jack.

[@cuzzined7567]

You should have pulled an oil sample to have the analysis done on it to check for metals and what type of oil it was. Great job guys!

[@3ftDeepChannel]

We never thought of that. Next time! Thanks for the kind words.

[@alloutdoors5358]

Those oil pumps always look like that. Really good for 800 hours compared to others I’ve seen. They’ll look like that if u put a brand new one together and spin it a few times it’ll still have those marks after. As long as you can’t feel them.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks for your comments.

[@PatriotSteve]

Video deserves an Oscar!

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks Patriot Steve!

[@RoopsPhoto]

Excellent video. I already felt pretty good about my 2019 GTI 130 former rental with 300 hrs. It is much better shape than my 2012 50hr GTI. Maintenance is key. Low hours can be bad if not maintained.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Ain't it the truth! Thanks for your comment.

[@tracyenlow8344]

As the owner of two 300 4tec motors, I loved seeing the shape of this engine after so many hours. Rotax sure loves E Torx bolts. I noticed that you did not replace some of the components that were still within service limits. I'm fine with that, but I expected you to replace the valve stem seals. It would have been more work to break the head down, but with that many hours and new rings....... Love your videos, very well edited. I have the shop manual, but seeing the actual work done really helps the perspective.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks for your comment, Tracy. We didn’t really consider replacing the stem seals, as they also appeared in good shape. You do have a good point, however, as we were already in there elbow deep…

[@Anotherday787]

I guess not bad considering a well taken care of outboard can go for over 3,000 hrs with no problem. It seems that this engine had a long way to go if it was washed down externally a little better and even hit with TFE protectant. I love jet propulsion engines so it's cool to see. Yamaha is next for me.

[@yozeruga]

my spark 2018 blew the piston out the bottom side, 52 hours was good and first 15 minutes of riding it in lake water the second time it blew.. I only rode it once before and made sure to clear the hull of any water afterwards. Tearing it apart now to see if some of it is salvageable.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

That’s terrible! I hope it’s salvageable and repairing it doesn’t break the bank. Good luck.

[@abdulazizshabili8661]

Good video but We need to know the torque wrench for each bolts and how to do the timing chain properly?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Those things were shown in previous videos. If you scroll back through our videos you will find a couple of them. Good luck with your project.

[@trevorw7400]

Great video, one thing I noticed is the tensioner should go in before the cam bolts are torqued. This sets the cam gear to the correct advance, probably wouldn’t be noticeable on a NA engine but could alter the performance.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Agreed, good point. Thanks for pointing that out to our viewers.

[@ezekielreyes7680]

Wow for that much h hours on the gti 130, I won't have any hesitations on buying one! Great video

[@3ftDeepChannel]

They really do appear to be bulletproof. Thanks for your comment.

[@skyeric875]

Honestly, rentals are typically more maintained than regular owners. I know several people who dont service their skis other than oil changes. Then I am close with a ski rental shop and their in house mechanic works on solely servicing the rental units. Those units are sold in better condition than many skis on the market

[@3ftDeepChannel]

We believe it. Thanks for your comment.

[@jeffhicks1008]

Those pistons are the size of a big block chevy! no wonder that motor can make big HP on just 3 cylinders.

[@DieselRamcharger]

they are under 4 inches. he must have small hands.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

…like Donald Trump's!

[@aj9270]

great video nice to see the ski had good maintenance was surprised you didn't change the bearings and oil pump gears just for the sake of it being apart even though they were in good shape

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Good point. We were on a tight budget, so trying to keep the parts cost to a minimum. As they didn't need replacing at this point, we opted not to do so. Thanks for your comment.

[@zloftsgard1]

Awesome video. Love these old school build videos!!!

[@justme.9711]

That all VERY!!! nice, but it's the jet rive that has the most salt exposure, do you have a vid on that?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

The first video of that series shows the pump corrosion. It didn’t need rebuilding, so we put it back together without doing much to it but a cleanup.

[@alhit007]

Epic job and video guys as usual.. that crazy red oil, looks like it did the job😜

[@scottsmall9898]

Wonder what kind of oil it was...I'd like to run it in my 2018 RXT-X 300 because that engine was really really clean for so many hours on it. Kind of wondering if was rebuilt sometime recently.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

We think they used the recommended Sea-Doo semi-synthetic oil. The red colour is probably due to staining over time from the marked (dyed reddish), marine gasoline.

[@JH-tc3yu]

@@3ftDeepChannel not likely. Some Schaeffer's, Redline, Amsoil (and a few other fleet type oils) are dyed red

[@3ftDeepChannel]

You guys are really making us wonder about this. I am going to try to contact the previous owner again.

[@jc35957]

@@3ftDeepChannel i instantly thought redline as well, will be interesting to find out

[@DiarmuidODonovan]

Great job. Love watching these. I miss the torque setting ye used to put at the bottom. Would love to see them in further videos.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks for mentioning that. We put the torque units in the how to videos that are more instructional. In these ones we are just troubleshooting, or tearing into interesting projects so we don’t repeat the torques that we have mentioned in other videos that are specific to engine components, etc. Thanks for your comment.

[@DiarmuidODonovan]

@@3ftDeepChannel ah ok. Thanks a mill. Can’t wait for the next video. Keep up the great work.

[@dougowens2686]

outstanding job looking forward to the next one

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks, Doug.

[@dobieracing6931]

Wow very impressive on seadoos part for designing such a great engine, great video too!

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@bmxbarron]

a good synthetic is why those surfaces look great

[@3ftDeepChannel]

You're probably right. I'll bet semi-synthetic with regular oil changes would also leave those surfaces looking nice, too.

[@mauriceclemens3286]

I used to work at a Kawasaki/Sea Doo shop in the 90’s and back then it was common to see Pierson all watercraft come in that were in terrible shape after just one season. They would have been sunk or they would have been left for weeks full of salt water. The engines would be solid corrosion! I wouldn’t buy a used PWC for anything in the world. These 4 stroke boats must be better built then back in my old days. This one is in surprising shape.

[@Xixu.co.6]

These use closed loop cooling. The salt water never touches the engine other than the exhaust manifold

[@3ftDeepChannel]

It had a lot of exposure to salt water (it was sitting in it for 2 years), and had lots of corrosion due to the exposure. Whenever we ride in salt water we always thoroughly rinse with fresh water afterward. A little spray lube on the metal components after also helps to minimize corrosion.

[@mattgallant1715]

Awesome video! Hope you guys are managing to stay cool through this heat wave

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks, Matt. It was a scorcher, and now we're scrambling looking for air conditioners for the first time in our lives. Hopefully it’s not a sign of things to come!

[@mattgallant1715]

@@3ftDeepChannel No problem! Being a HVAC mechanic in Calgary, it has never been so busy. I'm hoping the same, it's pretty extreme.

[@1FishinAddict]

Plenty if not straight transmission oil was used in the case. Very high anti corrosion properties.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

I thought I already responded to this comment, but can't see it. It makes me wonder how suitable it really is in an engine. Doesn't sound like a good long-term strategy, but the engine internals sure looked good.

[@stylz9873]

It surely is motul oil for motorcycle engines. Some of their motorcycle oil is red. You can use any motorcycle oil with the right specification from the manual.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks for your comment.

[@bigb0ngz]

Whatever that red oil is, USE IT. holy crap that is good.

[@ericbryant796]

Maybe Redline? I know their gear oils are red in color

[@mashdatrashvideos2831]

Great Video guys. Did you ever find out what oil they were using, They obviously did good maintenance and used something other than seadoo oil

[@3ftDeepChannel]

We were never able to get confirmation, but there have been a number of good comments regarding possibilities. There were a few suggestions for the oil, and some regarding red dye in marine fuel which may have stained the oil. I’m not sure about the red dye though, as it should have been flushed out with regular oil changes (assuming they were done).

[@juliorodriguez3034]

Motul

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Which one?

[@MrDazana]

I was expecting an intermission-grill-cheese eating moment

[@precippro]

I really enjoyed this video thank you for sharing !

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks!

[@ToyotatechDK]

Looks like the famous Castrol 4-stroke Race oil I also use on my Yamaha quad.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Was that synthetic oil, or mineral oil?

[@ToyotatechDK]

@@3ftDeepChannel it’s fully synthetic

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Well, hopefully it’s not that. Fully synthetic is not advisable in those machines.

[@31modern]

Awesome great job helped me out love the music

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks!

[@trvman1]

and now you know why a GOOD jet ski mechanic (if you can find one) charges what they do. How people learn this is beyond me :) But I can see a nice living once you do learn.

[@charlesnostrand3620]

Very nice just got to watch those bolts that were wired wheeled unless the stainless or aluminum but if there just zinc coated there’s no more coating and they’ll be even worse

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Agreed. Most of the screws, if not all of the screws and bolts on these machines are stainless steel.

[@krotchlickmeugh627]

Zinc is used inside the engines and is an oxidation attraction. Its used so the zinc "diodes" get all the oxidization while the surrounding aluminum gets far less. Seadoo or any manufacturer would be mentally challenged (aka polaris or arctic cat) to use zinc on these machines

[@MOTOONI19]

New oil pumps and the head of the pistons must be clean and the valves.

[@darkcrystal438]

Awesome.. the more u you use a marine engine the longer it will last. Worst thing for any engine is not using them! My yamaha vx1100 has 1050hrs on it.. brought as ex rental at 750hrs 7 years ago and still running great! Just oil changes and sparkplugs every 40hrs or so..

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks for the info. Fingers crossed it will last another 1,000 hours!

[@weavejuice5911]

superb video! do you have any videos for replacing a stator?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

thanks! We don’t have one specifically, but if you scroll to one of our earlier videos about supercharger failure damage, that should help you out.

[@chasemixon6327]

bring mine into your shop and take a look at it...LOL that would be fun!

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Well, we don't have a shop. Just our garages ...

[@chasemixon6327]

@@3ftDeepChannel garages are shops just parking for cars... :)

[@coreyhubert1728]

Absolutely awesome video. Thanks for making this!

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks, Corey!

[@matthewholzmueller6292]

Giving the overall lack of wear of the engine, I would love to know more details of the maintenance schedule as well as exactly what that red oil is and how long they have used it.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

We wanted to know that, too. All we were told is that he had it maintained "regularly", and that he didn't know what oil the mechanic used.

[@karlalbrecht9226]

@@3ftDeepChannel Looks like Redline oil. They make good stuff

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks, Karl.

[@modelhometourswithkimandst7302]

Incredibly satisfying to watch thank you!

[@technology_pro]

The 80's porn music really sets the tone

[@3ftDeepChannel]

We’ll, we like to give the viewers music they’re familiar with ;)

[@justme.9711]

Do you have a similar vid for a yammy 1.8Lt donk?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Sorry, no.

[@mashdatrashvideos2831]

Great video, I have a 2019 fishpro with 240hrs, I run offshore 70 80 miles and I maintain and clean my engine really good, my only concern is the starter, how long will it last and do I have to pull the engine to replace. I start/stop quite a bit and if starter goes out there is no way to get home

[@3ftDeepChannel]

I haven’t heard of a starter going on any of these machines. We know of people who've replaced them before, only to find out that they weren’t the issue. They are, however, extremely awkward to remove from the engine while that is still in the machine, but it is possible. You will wish you had an extra joint in your forearm, though. If it were my machine, I wouldn’t worry about the starter motor. Good luck.

[@brandondew3207]

I just replaced the starter on my 2014 gti was a rental with 748hrs on it. Paid 1500 with trailer because they said the engine was seized. Ended up just being a worn out starter from trying to crank with a rock lodged in the impeller. Mine would start once every 4 hours before I changed it, now it starts everytime. If you have slim arms its quite easy to take out and put in. I removed and replaced mine in 15 minutes.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks for your comment, Brandon. You must have very special arms to replace your starter motor in 15 minutes. Both Chris and I have struggled with ours for at least an hour to get it out!

[@brandondew3207]

@@3ftDeepChannel the only perk of weighing 150lbs at 5'10 haha scratched the crap out of my left arm fishing it under the exhaust manifold tho.

[@krotchlickmeugh627]

@@brandondew3207 bullshit. I work on these for a living and have replaced hundreds of seadoo starters over the years. Still cant do it that fast. Liar

[@wanderer6510]

I wonder if the wear at he oil pumps was caused by Cavitation. Not sure if the pressure would get high enough to cause that, but just a thought.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

I'm not sure. As we don't know the history of this machine, we'd only be speculating. Thanks for your comment.

[@zacbaxter]

Great video! Maybe someday tear down a salt water high hours Yamaha 1800. I flush mine religiously and rinse engine bay after every ride but always curious how the salt water could be affecting it. But 2 years & 220hrs later still runs like new. Anyway your videos are great for learning the disassembly and assembly process. Question: any idea how often I’m supposed to replace the anode on the engine block?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Hey, thanks for the kind words. You only need to replace the anode when it starts to corrode badly. Good luck, stay safe.

[@canammx125]

Cool music dude

[@alaindutoit8573]

Nice seiko field watch ⌚

[@antoniocarlos77]

Deus abençoe essa equipe ! Sigo daqui do Brasil . Passo horas vendo os videos

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Saudações do Canadá e obrigado por assistir!

[@antoniocarlos77]

@@3ftDeepChannel Um Salve Brasileiro ! Ces tem watzaap aqui é ruim pra peças . Você me ajuda bastantes com seus vídeo. Deus abençoe pelo trabalho.

[@mauriciomuttschall4370]

Esses mecânicos são os melhores do mundo

[@3ftDeepChannel]

¡Gracias, Mauricio!

[@jhuntjeeper]

Definitely not afraid to purchase a high hour machine now. One question, why were you guys using a torque wrench on basically every bolt and then 3 of the most important places to use a torque wrench, one of them the head bolts, you go and use just a breaker bar? Your going to have uneven pressure on the headgasket and potential for it to leak... what up with that. Also the tightening of bolts in a sequential order all the way around instead of in the proper pattern got nerves going haha

[@3ftDeepChannel]

We always use the proper torques on all engine components, except some of them require a torque and an angle. For the angle, we estimate it while using a long breaker bar to get enough to work. Thanks for your comment.

[@Xixu.co.6]

Everything uses torque angle now. So for example you will torque a bolt to 30lbft plus 90 degrees instead of just torquing to 80lbs like back in the day. It’s easiest to gauge angle with a breaker bar since it’s solid. They do this because as torque increases so does friction, and that 80lbft is measuring the force it takes to turn the bolt, not necessary the clamping load the bolt is applying. So by torquing to a low number, then a specific degree of rotation you get a more accurate and consistent torque

[@martykath4427]

Was expecting the water pump to get some love and perhaps a lap on the oil pump surfaces?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

No love for the water pump. This wasn’t meant to be a restoration video, but an exploration into the state of the engine. Thanks for your comment.

[@martykath4427]

@@3ftDeepChannel All good.

[@pabbip9]

It’s funny this just popped up. There’s a 2016 GTI 130 for sale local to me from a rental company. It has 690 hours, new starter,relay,battery,bumper,grips. It was a fresh water ski used with the rental key so no full throttle. He’s asking 4.5k for it. Was going to ask if you think I should get it and if it would be a good buy for a first ski. Would really appreciate your input! Thanks

[@3ftDeepChannel]

You should check it over following the advice we give in a previous video about how to buy a used personal watercraft. I wouldn’t worry too much about the hours on the machine, as we found out, but the resale value will remain very low no matter what you do to it. So keep that in mind. Good luck!

[@pabbip9]

@@3ftDeepChannel thanks for the reply! I will check out the video you recommended. As for the price what are your thoughts on $4.5k. Is that to much or is that pretty fair? I know you don’t want to give the price of this project but if you were offered a 2016 gti with 690 hours for $4.5k would you take it? Thanks

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Without giving away the price that we paid for our machine, I would offer a little bit lower than that price. Of course, the market is very different now with such a low supply of machines worldwide. Today, I would be happy with $4,000 Canadian assuming there weren't any obvious issues. Good luck.

[@paullinkins8121]

5:38 "4 thou, 3 thou, and 35 thou. So that's, the 4 thou is right at the edge of the service limit." If the .004" was the only one close to or at a problem then it wasn't .035", it was 3.5 thousandths as was written on the pistons.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Yes, you are correct. It was as written on the pistons. Not thousandths of an inch.Thanks for the clarification.

[@13chase2]

Wow this is incredible! You guys seem to really know what you are doing and I can’t believe how good everything looks. Do you think the supercharged skis (RXTX/RXPX) would last to 800 hours too? I am not sure if I want a seadoo or a Yamaha. Do you have any recommendations? Also how much did it cost you for all the parts to rebuild this machine?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Yes. If they're properly maintained, they should last 800 hours. The supercharger needs to be rebuilt on all models (except the 300 HP machines), or they may fail and cause catastrophic engine damage. Also, the intercooler on those machines need to be monitored, as they can leak and also cause engine damage. If those two systems are regularly maintained and repaired, the engine should last. Thanks for your comment.

[@nickk5345]

@@3ftDeepChannel Excellent work! What year had the intercooler issues? My 2004 RXP has the intercooler in the Intake manifold. Was it that type or the external that would leak? Thanks! ** I’m also about the tackle the exhaust valves too…any tips?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Actually, the internal and external intercoolers have had problems in the past. Just keep an eye on the oil (after every ride) and look for any signs of water intrusion. If so, it’s likely the intercooler. As for the exhaust valves, just make sure you seat the new ones properly with lapping compound. Good luck.

[@nickk5345]

@@3ftDeepChannel Will do! Thank you for the reply and tips!

[@pulgamazzgst]

Very nice video, I like your channel! Any special reason to keep the piston head dirty and did not brushed them?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

That’s a good question. It doesn’t really improve much by cleaning them up, so it’s really up to you unless they have a lot of carbon buildup. Thanks for your comment.

[@johnniteixeira261]

Vcs Sao fera os vídeos que vcs fazem Sao de muita ajuda pra nós aqui do Brasil poderia me enformar com quantos quilograma força é apertado esse cabeçote des de já obrigado

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Obrigada! Você deve ser capaz de encontrar os valores de torque neste vídeo: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipKuiXRqa9qmjck

[@johnniteixeira261]

@@3ftDeepChannel obrigado perguntei se ele pode me fala em português pós não intendo em inglês 😭

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Confira este vídeo a partir de 1:36 kzbin.info/www/bejne/i4jTqXRomal7pc0 Boa sorte.

[@SeaDooEric]

Nice work

[@BrockoM]

Wow! Your videos are Awesome! My 2005 RXP recently blew up with only 149 hours on it. Pretty disappointing considering the hours on the engine in this video. I haven't pulled the engine yet, so I don't know the extent of the damage yet, but when I was riding I heard a bang (similar to a belt blowing on a snowmachine) and it just coasted to a stop. There is oil on the bottom of the hull and I also found some chunks of metal below the engine. Do you have a website or number I can contact you to ask a few questions about my Seadoo to determine if you think it is repairable?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Hello Brock, Sorry to hear about your ski. It could be the supercharger, if it hadn’t been rebuilt. That’s a common problem in machines of that year. Feel free to send us any pictures or questions, etc. by email at: [e-mail], but we prefer to have as much discussion in this forum, as others also get the benefit of the chat. Oh, and thanks for the kind words.

[@BrockoM]

@@3ftDeepChannel I don't think it was the Supercharger. I took it out and had it rebuilt immediately when I bought the machine. It has right around 100 hours on it since the change, so ironically I was planning on pulling it this fall (now) and getting it rebuilt again. I have been reading a lot about bad valves in the pre-06 machines as well. Do you think that could have been the problem? I am scared because my wife has the matching machine with about 100 hours more on it, so I don't want to end up with two blown machines.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Hello Brock, Unfortunately some of the older machines did have bad valves so it is possible that one of those went. Hopefully not.

[@channell11]

@@3ftDeepChannel 2004-2005 models had a lot of issues with valves rusting and then dropping while in operation. Like the supercharger rebuild, valve replacement is obligatory when buying one of those if it hasn't already been done. The issue was corrected on newer models.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Yes, we did a valve replacement in an older video for that very reason (preventative maintenance). We always check the valve numbers when we’re in the engine to make sure the good ones are in there. Thanks for your comment.

[@wayneschenk5512]

Crazy red oil did the trick.

[@Xixu.co.6]

You have the patience of a saint to be able to use a torque wrench on every bolt lol

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks, but dem da rules ...

[@roam849]

Is that an impact driver or impact wrench your using?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

One of these: www.amazon.com/dp/B00Z7BSFY0/ref=as_sl_pc_tf_til?tag=3ftdspor-20&linkCode=w00&linkId=2bb87d1a64bc532f2f1fe13311208bf7&creativeASIN=B00Z7BSFY0

[@tuxedorooster9337]

Red oil is probably Klots

[@bjensen64]

After installing the head and rotating the complete assembly, how much resistance do you feel with the valve train?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Well, it’s hard to quantify but the resistance should be considerable. There should be no binding, though. The resistance will be even higher if the spark plugs are in.

[@bjensen64]

@@3ftDeepChannel makes perfect sense to me. Thanks for the quick response.

[@keving1774]

Cool video

[@bartbutler9960]

Nice video. The RED oil is from using dyed marina fuel. happens to boats too. These motor are great. The supercharged version not last as long, but thats because riders keep them redlined at over 8000 rpm for long periods! LOL Also rentals are speed limited to 45 mph (yawn). cant do much damage.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

That suggests that the two are mixing (oil and fuel). Can you elaborate? Thanks for your comment.

[@bartbutler9960]

@@3ftDeepChannel there is always a little blow-by. Gas will always leak into crankcase

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Yes, but enough to stain it that much? Could be, though. Probably the best explanation so far. Thanks for your comment.

[@bartbutler9960]

@@3ftDeepChannel yes it does. Happened to my RXTX. I was using Marina gas exclusively. Oil would have tint of red in it.

[@bartbutler9960]

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[@Grottolova]

At 13:18 what socket is used on the screw holding CPS? I need to replace mine. Wires tangles with the exhaust and lost

[@3ftDeepChannel]

I believe that is an M6 flanged Torx screw. It could be an M8, though but I believe it’s an M6.

[@patrickduran8163]

I wonder if it was so clean because it’s not a very powerful ski, I wonder if a 255 rxp or 300 would’ve looked the same

[@3ftDeepChannel]

It’s hard to say. If a supercharger was neglected like the rest of the machine, there could’ve been big problems to clean up.

[@KennethCrawford1970]

This video gives me anxiety. I could never put it back together! LOL

[@3ftDeepChannel]

That’s what service manuals are for! 😀

[@kyletrump8025]

Sure you could, it's just like a puzzle.

[@Habibi264]

@@3ftDeepChannel where can i get the instructions? and the torques for all screws?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Watch the earlier series we did about the supercharger failure. That has all the information in it. Good luck.

[@jonathanstansell8511]

13:01 my heart sank! i thought it broke lol

[@3ftDeepChannel]

That would never happen while we’ve got the workpiece on the bench and easy to work on. It would wait until it’s inside the machine, impossible to get to, and while we’re on vacation far away from our tools ;)

[@Gmtail]

Did you end up replacing the oil pump parts that were scored? Thank you for making the vid. I’d also probably replace that damned carbon seal while you have everything apart.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

We did replace the carbon seal, but felt that most of the pump parts were not in too bad shape to warrant replacement. Thanks for your comment.

[@hamzalag2006]

Thank you

[@Platypus_Warrior]

Hi ! I'm no professional and I wonder why after lubrication there's still some seal scratching afterwards. Isn't better to lube after all the "hands on" scratching is done to prevent dust deposit ?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Which part of the video are you referring to?

[@Platypus_Warrior]

@@3ftDeepChannel That was 7:56 for example but actually searching for the timeframe to reply you, I noticed that shot was taken prior to what's just before so my bad on this.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Hey, no problem. You're right, though. Thanks for your comment.

[@pepeclavito9923]

hi..do you need to put the rings in a special order in the pistons??..i will apreciatte your help thanks.jaime

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Yes. There are different rings in the piston and it is critical that they go in the proper placement. Good luck.

[@GloryOnHigh]

I'm curious...did I see you torque bolts with a torque wrench and then further tighten with a breaker bar? Confused...

[@3ftDeepChannel]

I’m not sure what scene you’re referring to, but some of the screws in the engine require a specific torque followed by a further torque of a specific angle (i.e. not force).

[@GloryOnHigh]

@3ftDeepChannel interesting. Never heard of that before. But I'll take your word for it as I haven't wrenched on these types of motors before. Looks like it ran great after all your work. 👍🏻

[@Gustavo_enduro]

great job how many ours you think I can get out off my 2015 gtr215 I'm about to do the supercharger rebuild wating on parts it has 190hrs on the original Bering's I'm not riding it until that's done

[@3ftDeepChannel]

I would feel very confident that you could get at least 1000 hours on your engine, but I have heard you can get up to 2000 hours. The supercharger should be rebuilt between 150 and 200 hours normally, so make sure you stay on top of that if you want your engine to be in good shape. Good luck and thanks for your comment.

[@greggignac188]

I have 743hrs on my 2011 Gtx 215 iS

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Did you encounter any major issues along the way?

[@nswiss19751]

Should of put a fresh oil pump in it and kept it going

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Well, we felt the one that was in there was "fresh" enough. Thanks for your comment.

[@earldail6461]

That's Red line oil we run them in are skies on are big turbo builds

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Is that oil semi-synthetic?

[@bfc8467]

Any reason for not installing new main/rod bearings? Didn’t look “bad” but this seems like a long way to go not to just throw a set in in.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Well, like we've been responding to other similar questions, we dug into this to see what the condition of the engine was, not to rebuild it. So, we only changed components that needed changing. Thanks for your comment.

[@brandonstews238]

Wonderful video!

[@Foundanktuary1]

Was this engine already rebuilt previously? cause damnnn

[@3ftDeepChannel]

No, never rebuilt. Regular oil changes, though.

[@Foundanktuary1]

@@3ftDeepChannel that's incredible! Makes me feel a lot better about buying my 2021 GTI SE 170 😁

[@cryptocuzzins9214]

Did you ever do a compression check before teardown?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Yes, you can see the results in part 3 of the series. Around the 4:55 mark we compare the two results. It is a bit confusing the way we organized the video. Thanks for your comment.

[@MikeZ32TT]

Nice, Thanks Guys.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Thanks!

[@f143744]

Red Line motor oil is Red. That’s what I run in my 2020 Fish Pro.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Is it semi-synthetic?

[@trvman1]

Marvel Mystery oil is also red. Maybe they put some in.

[@3ftDeepChannel]

It could be. Right now though, our working theory is that the marked marine fuel stained it red.

[@robertpayne1153]

Looks like “ motul oil, synthetic was used, that’s why the engine is in good shape internally

[@TOUCTI]

However, 100% synthetic oil is not recommended for these pwc

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Hopefully not

[@ViolatorZ06]

I was going to purchase a new gtx limited 300hp. I noticed you said the supercharger doesn't need to be rebuilt on those? Did I read that correctly and why if I may ask?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Correct. They changed the supercharger quite a bit on the 300 hp models so that it doesn’t need to be rebuilt. We will see…

[@ViolatorZ06]

@@3ftDeepChannel thank you for the quick reply and information!

[@channell11]

@@ViolatorZ06 The superchargers got steadily better over the years. They were upgraded to metal washers from the ceramic ones, which increased the rebuild time to 200 hours over 100. 2017 and up models just call for an inspection at 200 hours. Caveat is if something is wrong you replace the unit instead of rebuilding it.

[@cap2c484]

I wonder if you would be willing to share a cost breakdown? How much was the ski plus refurbishment costs?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Are you from revenue Canada? Just kidding. I can’t tell you what we paid for it, but it was relatively cheap because of the condition it was in. If I recall, we put in about $1800 in parts, including a new seat cover. We made a few hundred bucks on it at the end of the day, but if you count all the hours we put into it…

[@cap2c484]

@@3ftDeepChannel Haha, I’m sure revenue Canada would allow you to assign a value to your labor, resulting in a tax loss. 😂😂

[@3ftDeepChannel]

I will speak with my accountant!

[@randyb6485]

@@cap2c484 if you assign a value to your labour it would then become income to you on the other side.

[@meeperrxp]

you cant know if the timing chain is stretched for sure it was after that many hours, replace it every time engine is out

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Yes, most mechanics have that philosophy.

[@Cre8tive81]

8:01 Shouldn't the liquid seal be applied to have all bolt holes are on the outside of the seal? Or not that important?

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Really, you should apply it as if it were a gasket all the way around the surface for best seal, but as long as there is a barrier all the way around unbroken, that is the main thing. Thanks for your comment.

[@bluegrassbassing3790]

It got a lot of use... if it wasn’t maintenanced well it wouldn’t had made it to 900 hrs in the salt... so unfortunately I guess I can’t say “rode hard, put away wet”

[@3ftDeepChannel]

Well, I don’t think we can say it was put away at all. It was in the water docked the entire two years.