Plane Touches Down Too Short

[@Zzrdemon6633]

That first ryanair hit the paint perfectly !

[@CerberusTenshi]

Exactly. He landed right on the markers.

[@fwof3347]

@@CerberusTenshi mod t let your correct facts get in the way of fake header

[@bigdog1150]

Cleared the fence by 15-20ft

[@johns5826]

Seems like he nailed it. Probably a short runway, and wanted/intended and maybe even briefed that he would touchdown just over the threshold.

[@petesmith1924]

@@johns5826 Clearly you don’t understand the first thing about 737 landing performance. It is based on crossing the threshold at 50’ AGL, not ‘just clearing the fence’.

[@feynthefallen]

The shadow gives you some perspective on what an incredible amount of ground speed these planes really carry onto the runway.

[@operationscomputer1478]

140kts - 259.28 km/h.

[@feynthefallen]

@@operationscomputer1478 You're not seeing my point. I know perfectly well it's between 120 and 160 knots. So do many other people. But that's just some abstract numbers, as is "250ish km/h". Seeing the shadow move over ground, buildings, cars, streets gives you a tangible feeling of what those numbers _mean._

[@힐만94]

@@feynthefallen yepp, i can see your point... because in the air, we feel that airplane moves slow because we have no reference point, compare to the ground vehicle, i.e. car, bus, or train, where we can see nearby trees/buildings move faster than the far trees/buildings...

[@feynthefallen]

@@힐만94 Exactly. Just like you can't really experience what it means if Verstappen goes down the straight at 340km/h, unless you've been there and have watched him go past.

[@alexandersoren4938]

The runway length at Skiathos is 1630m which is just enough for an airplane like 737-800, so the normal practice is NOT to flare but land firmly as soon as possible because every metre matters. So there's nothing unusual nor abnormal about this particular landing.

[@rdspam]

If you look at the satellite view, there’s plenty of rubber right at the threshold, and a bit before, so getting it down early seems to be a common strategy.

[@sweeptheleg.]

There's a tendency for this channel to sensationalize it's titles. I suspect in an effort to gain clicks.

[@thomasdalton1508]

That's a very unusual landing. When they calculate landing distances, it is based on touching down in the touchdown zone, which is 1,000 feet down the runway. That's so you have some leeway if you come up short. You should never be coming up so short that you land right on the threshold. Landing firmly so you can start braking straight away is standard on pretty much any landing. You still flare to do that, otherwise you will damage the landing gear.

[@alexandersoren4938]

@@thomasdalton1508 that's right except for Skiathos. Technically, landing calculations might allow for a short flare but I'm positive no pilot in their right mind would do that. You either land firmly and stop within the runway or flare and risk ending up in the sea.

[@thomasdalton1508]

@@alexandersoren4938 If you are flaring properly, it doesn't stop you landing the plane on the runway. If you are floating down the runway, you've done it wrong. Take off distance is pretty much always much longer than landing distance. If the runway is long enough for them to get back in the air, they should have no problem at all landing on it. There is no need for risky landings.

[@haraldhechler3557]

No passenger in that Ryanair plane paid the extra for "landing in the touchdown zone".

[@grantmosis]

Do Ryanair use runways?

[@JeffRL1956]

I thought O'Leary charged extra for *everything.* He's the guy who wanted to charge for using the washrooms and who thought standing room only like on a city bus would be a good idea.

[@happyslappy5203]

Passengers on Ryanair flights don’t care, they’re too busy fighting each other: « Shock moment brawl erupts on Ryanair flight from Bristol to Tenerife leaving female passenger with a bloody nose » 29 Nov 2023😳 « Ryanair in emergency landing after mass brawl breaks out onboard flight from UK to Canary Islands » 19 jan 2024🙄 « Chaos on Ryanair flight from Edinburgh to Tenerife as men and woman brawl in front of passengers » 21 feb 2024😆 « Mass brawl forces Ryanair 'flight from hell' to make emergency landing after just 36 minutes » 7 July 2024😅 « Major brawl breaks out on Ryanair flight as passengers have punch-up in middle of aisle » 20 Aug 2024😂

[@isabelstokes4042]

@@grantmosis They're the pits. Awful.

[@justing42]

yawn

[@thadoctorreturns2999]

To be fair that's probably one of the smoother landings for Ryanair.

[@isabelstokes4042]

They are without a doubt the worst airline I've ever flown with. Never again!

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

Awful airline!

[@dex1lsp]

I have a bad back (spina bifida) and I've always stayed away from Ryanair because the risk of injury is way too high. I generally have no problems with "normal" landings, but those "slam dunks" could potentially f me up real bad! Ryanair does in fact injure people from time to time. Look up the flight attendant who sued over a back injury from a hard landing, for example. So yeah, no thank you! We need to regulate this problem. It shouldn't be an accepted practice.

[@Debbie-u6q]

😆

[@danganbeg7225]

@@isabelstokes4042 Worse than BA?? I don't think so!

[@drmedanina]

2:00 the fact the pilot still somewhat buttered this landing is crazy😯

[@pwrcaelenx]

I wasn’t too surprised when I saw it was an A330

[@jakehurst10]

It’s impossible to not butter an a330 landing

[@drmedanina]

@@jakehurst10 watch me in msfs😂😂

[@Imperialvoidking]

He buttered it

[@PN_48]

Watch the thump when he hits the deck… that is never a greaser😂

[@quantumss]

" barely clearly the fence", what the hell are you talking about. 3ft is barely clearly, 30ft + is not. Stop with the bull.

[@BariumCobaltNitrog3n]

*clearing

[@SeventhSwell]

Right? I was like 'Well, this video's off to a... start. Must be a slow week in aviation videos."

[@gingerninja0712]

For standard landings you cross the threshold at 50ft... this is low

[@danstrayer111]

for St Maarten, which is where this is I believe, it's normal

[@JohninRosc]

@@danstrayer111 Do Ryanair fly to St Maarten now? Fantastic - thanks for telling me.

[@2373stevieb]

Ryanair pilot was trying to get a better look at the ladies on the beach.👨‍✈️

[@steveavant9727]

He just hates to waste runway

[@Aviation71700]

💀💀💀

[@jone7414]

Good joke😂

[@Jnoooooo]

Maybe she was too busy checking out the men????

[@Littlebigbot]

Maybe he was checking out the men.

[@daveriley6310]

Over 40 years ago as a DC9 co-pilot and the pilot flying that leg to KPBI, the captain expressed a preference for the shortest runway and asked me to set it down on the first brick. I was still actively flying F-105s, which used up a lot of runway at a 220 mph minimum find approach speed, in the Air National Guard at the time. So I touched down at the very beginning of the runway just as that 737 did, while the captain was sucking the seat cushion up into his sphincter. Instead of saying nice approach, he said that he didn't think I was going to make the runway, to which I replied that's where the proverbial first brick is. He then told me that he had not meant it literally. Live and learn. It now occurs to me that the same scenario may have been in play on that SXM landing.

[@jefflarcher5627]

not saint marteen, but Skiathos in Greece. 1600m runway so it definitely played a role here. Wizzair did a notably low approach there a few years ago

[@billmorris2613]

@@daveriley6310 Y’all put a DC 9 down on a runway only 3214 feet long X 75 feet wide??

[@mineduck3050]

Thanks for that insight

[@tonamg53]

If you’re a pilot for real you would have learned that you’re supposed to be at 50 ft above the runway threshold. Also they don’t use mph in aviation…

[@billmorris2613]

@@tonamg53 Yes I’m a real commercial pilot. Yes we still use MPH in aviation. My first airplane’s airspeed indicator was in MPH on the outside ring with knots on the inside. Although knots are more prevalent now, I use it here because the vast amount of watchers are not in aviation and understand MPH better than knots. No where in my training or in the aircraft I flew, which includes some jets, was there a requirement or SOP to cross either threshold at 50 feet. Those are used mainly by airlines and some corporate operations. I feel that is fine on runways of more standard lengths. But this runway is the shortest runway in mainland Europe that is used by the airlines. There is less than 5200 feet available for landing. And I believe using up valuable runway length on a very short runway just to cross the threshold at 50 feet is being unsafe. Apparently so do the pilots on every video I have seen here on You Tube landing on this runway, and a few others too.

[@Yellow_Apollo]

0:51 “drop it like its hot” 💅

[@Mr2greys]

I hate when they include his clips. Nobody cares for the commentary, shut the fuck up

[@DonegalOverlanding]

That shot with the shadow was unexpectedly awesome, really loved that they lifted the camera at touchdown too.

[@LeighArredondo]

Much agreed...that was my favorite clip of this post!

[@GopherBaroque61]

My first thought before watching this video but after reading the title and seeing the thumbnail was "Ryanair? Yeah, that figures". However, once I saw the video, I'm like, "How is that *_TOO_* short? A little short, yeah, but it was still on the runway.

[@thomasdalton1508]

The touchdown zone is 1,000 feet down the runway. They landed 1,000 feet short of where they should have been aiming.

[@Tom_Hadler]

@@thomasdalton1508 Not at Skiathos!

[@thomasdalton1508]

@@Tom_Hadler What are you basing that on? It's the same everywhere. If the runway is so short you would have to land earlier than 1,000 feet then it is too short to land on. You don't risk landing short in an airliner just to get into an airport with a short runway.

[@IBM29]

Fumes in the cockpit could be anything from chaffed wiring to a bad taco the night before...

[@pksmith1275]

Just what I was thinking. LOL

[@LeydenAigg]

No RATIONAL person would be willing to ignore fumes in the cockpit.

[@will.5642]

Engine bleeds air directly to the cockpit first and then to the rest of the cabin

[@IBM29]

@@will.5642 That makes the taco scenario particularly troubling... 😁

[@ge2623]

Wrong. There's no such thing as a "Bad taco"

[@dhc950]

The B787, like most transport category aircraft, have special procedures to follow when they dispatch with unserviceable components. Leaving the gear extended for 2 minutes is a fairly typical requirement when a brake sensor is inoperative. There is another MEL procedure that can require the gear to remain extended for 10 minutes, but this is much less common.

[@petesmith1924]

Yep, done it numerous times!👍

[@turnpike]

thank you kind sir, had to scroll way to much to find some info on the B787

[@TheShowblox]

Props to the Delta pilot for putting safety first

[@starguy2718]

Ryanair: "We paid for this runway, so we're going to use all of it."

[@ge2623]

Old.

[@darkpixel2k]

​@@ge2623lame

[@jeffpotipco736]

Ive been chased by my shadow too😌 You never really get away from it...

[@simon199418]

Having football-style commentary on landing planes just sounds weird man.

[@Whiteangelstar]

Yeah but you got to admire the player's on the wing!!😁

[@spicylemon2623]

Football commentators don't make funny noises what are you on about

[@MeppyMan]

@@spicylemon2623what country and style of football are you referring to? 😂

[@spicylemon2623]

@@MeppyMan normal football

[@jhmcd2]

In Ryanair's defense, when I flew to St. Lucia, the taxi way was pretty close to the end of the runway, so we would touchdown on the numbers to stop as fast as possible so that we didn't have to back taxi, and given the the fact that they figured that they gave the passenger's too much time on the plane as is, they probably wanted them out as fast as possible.

[@deepshotone]

The airplane shaddow gives you a very good perspective on how fast that plane is actually traveling

[@sycokriket1]

That Saudia bird looks the gear pins were left in, the gear handle was activated but only the doors cycled.Makes a hard right for a return to field

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

The 787 opens the gear doors automatically, 1 second after liftoff and if the door handle isn’t moved into the up position within 30 seconds, those doors will close again. So no, pins were not left in. They likely had a brake inop and had to wait 2 min for the wheel to stop spinning before retraction.

[@sycokriket1]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Yea I don't think so might want to refer to Boeing AMM 32-30-01-02C-340A. on gear door operation.

[@hottuberrol968]

Hot brakes, cool off, retract later. There - 6 words instead of speculative BS. Pins left in 😂😂😂😂 muppet

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@hottuberrol968 brake inop. Wheel spin down, retract later.

[@sycokriket1]

@hottuberrol968 not questioning the hot brake theory, might want to actually read something before looking like the actual Muppet! Just another tool showing his ignorance.

[@joshdubrow6494]

1:01 Okay forget about the gear for a sec, can we take a minute to appreciate the beauty of a sound this aircraft produces?

[@sandrainthesky1011]

What an amazing time we live in to be able to, for a reasonable price, hop into one of these and go tearing down the runway. I have always marveled at take-off and now retired I fly off to far away places half way around the world, never getting jaded. This won't be around forever, it will eventually become way too expensive and the age of jetting around the planet will end. Enjoy it while we have it!

[@npr1300A8]

You can guarantee the ones who'll ban it will still be flying and cruising on their diesel guzzling super yachts.

[@RS-hh3et]

So instead of technology advancing and more forms of flight becoming available, you think it will become "too expensive" all of a sudden but offer no explanation as to why..🥱🙄🙄🙄

[@ErhanGaming]

0:55 - I saw the same thing a couple of years ago with the same airline. I wonder if it was the same pilot?

[@MeppyMan]

This wasn’t a pilot thing.

[@ErhanGaming]

@@MeppyMan oh what was it?

[@petesmith1924]

@@MeppyMan oh yes it was. Crossing the threshold lower than 50ft was DEFINITELY a pilot choice.

[@Spaaadz]

Love the videos!!👍

[@pb68slab18]

Any landing ya walk away from is a good one!

[@KenanTurkiye]

I ❤ trains, trams, take a ride, I have a folder on ''transportation'' (folder 2, in playlists) you will love them too :)

[@rolandvk6259]

👌👌 The timing on the close-out music is impeccable !

[@JeffRL1956]

Better to forget to raise the gear after takeoff than to forget to lower it before landing.

[@xenadu02]

That Ryanair was about a fuselage height above the fence which is close. He touched town right before the piano keys which is definitely short... but that's what the touchdown zone is so far down the runway to begin with.

[@rdspam]

With only 5,300 feet of runway, and over-run putting you in the water, I suspect the threshold marker is more often a target than the Aiming Point marker for commercial jets. There’s a decent bit of rubber laid down before the threshold.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@rdspama lot of pilots landed there while being nervous. They really shouldn’t have to. The landing calculations considers the first 1000 feet in the air. So a normal landing shouldn’t be a problem.

[@petesmith1924]

@@rdspam it makes no difference how long the runway is - you calculate your landing performance and you can either stop with the regulatory safety margins built into the calculation or you can’t. If you can’t you don’t land. If you can you land just like you do anywhere else - crossing the landing threshold at 50ft ATE and touching down in the correct place. The threshold is displaced TO ENSURE YOU DONT HIT ANYTHING on short finals. If you pause the video, he actually touches down just before the threshold. That is a BIG no, no. He compromised safety and an ASR should have been submitted and his fleet manager involved. It’s as simple as that. Sea off either end, short runway etc etc makes NO DIFFERENCE.

[@petesmith1924]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 exactly, they have calculated that they can stop so there is no need to land before the threshold, which he does if you pause the video at touchdown.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@petesmith1924 right. And I saw your responses in other places too and I totally agree with all you wrote. Going into short runways, I’ve seen pilots do the strangest things and make it more dangerous. A lot will duck under the normal glidepath. But I’ve seen guys fly Ref minus 5. I’ve seen guys land with minimum fuel. It’s flabbergasting sometimes.

[@thunderamu9543]

That Ryanair landing is NORMAL for Skiathos.

[@petesmith1924]

It is abnormal to cross the runway threshold below 50ft. End of. The fact a lot of pilots do it at Skiathos just means they are doing it wrong, not that it is normal. Yours, a 16,000hr 737 Training Captain who checked pilots out for Cat C airfields like Skiathos.

[@duckfeverretrievers600]

@@petesmith1924 🤣

[@Tom_Hadler]

​@@petesmith1924 Plane landed after threshold and just beyond piano keys. Perfect. I flew a 737 pro simulator into Skiathos rwy 01 and overshot because I didn't get it down in time. (I called for a TOGA but the end time of session meant the instructor basically said nah) Short runway, with a specific approach where it is more critical to get the wheels down ASAP. This approach seemed a little lower than usual, but shallower approach but the plane landed where it should

[@petesmith1924]

@@Tom_Hadler No it didn’t. It touched down at the threshold. That is far from perfect. You are supposed to cross the threshold 50ft above it, not touch down on it. You flew a ‘pro simulator’ did you? I’ve got 15,000hrs flying the real thing and training/ checking pilots for Cat C airports such as Skiathos, Samos, Funchal, Chambery etc. So I’ll take my expertise over your ‘I’ve been in a sim and think I know what I’m talking about’ guff.

[@petesmith1924]

And before you comment further about my hours, 1000hrs are on the B787, total 16,000, with 15,000 on the 737 from Classic through to Max.

[@salemas5]

2:50 is there particular reason airbrakes didnt extended evenly or its just shitty maintenance ?

[@ChrisBohling]

That is normal operation for a Boeing 737 Max.

[@EdOeuna]

Different hydraulic systems, so timing will be out, slightly.

[@Molders32]

Ryanair pilot at the disciplinary hearing: yeah but I got the company loads of free publicity

[@stephenconway2468]

The joke is that landing was perfect. The video claim or suggestion is nonsense.

[@hazmat5749]

That runway is particularly short, pilots have to make use of every foot.

[@rustyshackelford3371]

​@@stephenconway2468Yeah, I gave a thumbs down on this video because of that.

[@petesmith1924]

@@stephenconway2468 You have proved you don’t have a clue about 737 regulatory landing performance and Boeing SOPs twice in these comments now. Stop spouting shite.

[@petesmith1924]

@@hazmat5749 No, they don’t. They have calculated stopping distance based on crossing the runway threshold at 50ft. There is NO NEED to cross it lower and thus compromising safety. None whatsoever, and that would be a fail if it was a check ride.

[@nigelcox1451]

Talking of a low landing. A few years ago, Brize Norton, Oxfordshire, England. A road passes by one end of the runway, with traffic signals to hold traffic during take-offs and landings. I'm sat at the lights, with the airfield to my right, and there are two guys at the fence, looking in towards the runway, and we can see a plane taxiing towards the runway. Distracted by that, we do not see the one coming in to land, from behind the two guys. Plane almost lands in the field before the road, and the first I see of it, is as it rises from behind the hedge to my left, landing gear almost brushing the hedge. It hops over the fence, again, almost touching it, to drop gently to the runway. The two guys were a bit shocked when it went over their heads, still rising. Brown trousers moment perhaps? That's why the lights are there, to protect traffic, but not apparently, plane spotters. Like a pantomime, "it's behind you".

[@rossontinternet]

Ryanair saving fuel to keep them prices low!

[@jcmaguier3199]

About the Saudia 787, it could be a dispatch item requiring to maintain landing gear down for 2 until 10 minutes after take off, required cool down time for the ldg gear.

[@lawsonic]

That British guy sounds like he doing a soccer commentary

[@johnsmith-wd5sq]

Gooooooaaaaaalllllll!

[@fernandoramoa7079]

That shadow shot is super dope

[@cris_261]

Aerosucre pilot moonlighting for Ryanair? 😄

[@TexJester-no8th]

My thought exactly!!

[@mustbmark]

Seen the shadow to many times to remember. Take a ship and go across the equater and see you have no shadow unless you lift your feet. You must be right under the sun. Fascinating. 😊😮

[@BariumCobaltNitrog3n]

The shadow of an airplane from the sun is always the size of the plane.

[@MeppyMan]

Umm not quite how that works. Maybe midday summer at the equator.

[@davidf2281]

You are clearly an alien who has never seen a shadow.

[@BariumCobaltNitrog3n]

@@MeppyMan Ummm how does it work then?

[@BariumCobaltNitrog3n]

@@davidf2281 Please show your work.

[@davidf2281]

@@BariumCobaltNitrog3n Step 1: Place airplane in hangar. Step 2: Place bright spotlight next to airplane, pointing at both airplane and wall of hangar. Step 3: Observe shadow on wall of hangar.

[@randygreen007]

Somewhere there’s a first time flyer watching videos on flying to get their nerve up. Then this pops up in their suggested videos. 😂😂

[@EdOeuna]

@@randygreen007 Many years ago I was sitting on the flight deck looking into the terminal and the tv was showing the film Airplane / Flying High, which I thought was amusing considering the passengers were about to board a night flight in a turboprop.

[@AlexIanMartin1]

"Chased by it's own shadow." yeah, that's how shadows work...

[@BariumCobaltNitrog3n]

Unless you are moving towards the light source, which it isn't.

[@davidhowe6905]

True, but nice to see them get some credit! 😉

[@amblincork]

And they know some passegers will start standing up and getting reeady to leav as soon as the plance touches down which gives ryanair an additional 30 seconds for a quick turn around..every second counts

[@johnsmith-wd5sq]

Still Better than being chased by the Cops!

[@pct2025]

@1:00 perhaps the Saudi airline left its gear down for a test. I flew United last year and they informed us they were going to leave the gear down for 10 minutes or so. Super loud and you’re very glad once they’ve retraced the landing gear.

[@AnonymaxUK]

One of the wheel brakes is inoperative, so they have to wait 2min for the wheels to stop spinning before retracting.

[@mousumimitrapal8139]

0:23 butter!

[@sushigood6548]

rare thing to say about ryanair

[@ironmann16]

For Ryanair it was 😂

[@justing42]

nobody says that

[@bert-qu3iq]

2:05 That Delta landed pretty gingerly. Did they dump fuel?

[@flaps45]

They can’t. Delta’s 330s don’t have fuel dump capability.

[@klonix2137]

0:35 mute alert

[@spicylemon2623]

It's his channel quit yapping

[@darkpixel2k]

​@@spicylemon2623it wasn't his video

[@spicylemon2623]

@@darkpixel2k what? I was saying that part of the video was from big jet TV

[@JAMESWUERTELE]

1:05 hot brakes. Or wheels still spinning. It’s common on the 787. You will notice the gear doors open after positive rate.

[@zuhairnajjar]

1:00 its a hydraulic failure for my airline 😮

[@colestock9980]

I saw an Air Canada video not long ago exactly like that

[@tomstravels520]

or brakes were too hot

[@TeamS1mple]

not a hydralic failiure. its just a fault where the wheels get too hot and they keep them down a bit longer

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@TeamS1mplenope. One brake is inop and they have to wait 2 minutes for that wheel to come to a stop, before retraction.

[@me734]

These vids are out fav 3 minutes of the week

[@cooolmanko]

0:35 omg just be quiet 😌

[@jameshoyle5918]

Yes, very annoying

[@spicylemon2623]

No! He does livestreams of London Heathrow that would be really boring if he was sitting there not talking to his viewers

[@cameraman655]

It's Jerry’s damn channel he can do what he bloody well pleases. His commentary is why so many tune in, then again I guess you don't watch BigJet TV, so your ignorance is forgiven.

[@joãoAlberto-k9x]

oma Oh My Allah!

[@MarksamtheMarksman_Official]

Why y'all always hating on Jerry?😭

[@allwelsh]

Skiathos is renowned for its landings and take offs.Look at other videos.

[@BackyardDogPark9862]

I always wondered why pilots never used the first part of the runway for landing. Then I learned about margin of error.

[@cal7875]

TCH…

[@petesmith1924]

It’s called landing performance and the SOP is to cross the landing threshold at 50ft - lower than that and you risk hitting things before the start of the runway. It is a REGULATORY REQUIREMENT

[@WVMS42]

Thank you for this beautiful moment. However can you please change the music to a calmer one 😊

[@RLVIDEOS2024]

*Excellent Video 👍🏻*

[@theodorosathanasiadis7489]

Pretty sad that the titles get increasingly click-baity.

[@gothard5]

That first one reminds me of a beach on the island of St Maarten where incoming airplanes pass over the beach in fairly low altitude as they approach the runway which is just past the beach. I got to see this first hand during my visit to St Maarten back in July 2012.

[@Eroupe_person]

Nice

[@Debbiedoo.123]

The first one looks like The Island of St Maarten in the Caribbean. Happens all the time. People love it!

[@lizh4933]

I would not love sucking up jet fumes.

[@arnesw2647]

Coool! 😁👍

[@woohunter1]

Watching how the flaps came up shortly after touchdown was pretty impressive. Even the angle they were pointed tells me that it also puts a lot of downforce on the plane to keep it planted on the runway as well as more braking.

[@ArthurTanner-d7s]

*braking

[@woohunter1]

@@ArthurTanner-d7s thanks for the correction!!! I really appreciate that!!!

[@BrianMaiden-o9c]

The Saudia787 probably had hot brakes after taxiing out, quite common to leave the gear down on climbout to cool them and retract once the temp goes down.

[@charliechristmas5147]

Correct…..not the other bullsh1t in the comments

[@petesmith1924]

If your brakes are too hot you shouldn’t be taking off - you might need to reject at close to V1. On the 787 it is more likely an MEL restriction requiring you to leave the gear down for a period of time - one situation is 2 mins, another is for 10mins!!!

[@EdOeuna]

You’d only get hot brakes once airborne and the gear is up, so you lower it again. This is likely due to a capped brake MEL, where the wheels have to spin down before being retracted, as others have said.

[@justing42]

NON SENSE. The crew will NEVER taxi with hot brakes. That’s why we bring BRAKE fans out to the hot brake and cool them down. And, you don’t get hot brakes from taxiing, so just stop.

[@justing42]

@@charliechristmas5147nonsense

[@kellydalstok8900]

Landed three times on Skiathos. It’s a short runway between two bays and the only stretch of land large and flat enough for an airport.

[@Coolpilot360]

Whats the ryanair pilot trying to do lol!

[@OhSoddit]

Haven't we seen the Ryanair clip (and the plane that did NOT retract landing gear after takeoff) before? Recently?? I don't think that was 3 NEW minutes of aviation.

[@AnimalisMD]

Ryanair once again demonstrating their policy of using every possible inch of the runway!🤣☘

[@mrsmith8224]

You should be happy then

[@markw1123]

If an airplane has a brake out of service it is still permitted to fly, but the pilots have to wait about 2 minutes after takeoff for the tire to stop spinning before retracting the landing gear.

[@billmorris2613]

The Ryanair DID NOT TOUCH DOWN TO EARLY!!! The touchdown was past the approach end of the runway, and exactly where they should be on a short runway like this one is. The touchdown zone starts at the approach end of the runway.

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

The touchdown zone is 1000 feet down the runway. That’s where you are supposed to land, even on short runways.

[@mrsmith8224]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183touchdown markers are 1000 feet and that is not standard

[@billmorris2613]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Nope. It is very legal to touchdown on the key board right at the threshold of the runway. At this airport there are many videos here on You Tube of aircraft landing. They all barely clear the fence. Rather they touch down on the key board right at the approach threshold just short of the numbers of the runway or the end of the touchdown zone is up to the captain based on the conditions of their aircraft at the time of the landing.

[@billmorris2613]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Your statement is not correct. The “AIMING POINT MARKING” is usually about 1000 feet from the runway “THRESHOLD LINE.” The “TOUCHDOWN ZONE MARKINGS” usually start about half way between the threshold line and the aiming point marking. The far end on the “TOUCHDOWN ZONE MARKINGS” end around 1000 to 2000 feet past the “AIMING POINT MARKING.” At MSY near New Orleans, the far end of the “TOUCHDOWN ZONE MARKINGS” are 1900+ feet past the “AIMING POINT MARKING.” This depends on the length of the runway. The far end of the “TOUCHDOWN ZONE MARKINGS” are there because this is the end of where the runway construction is the strongest. The middle portion of the runway is usually not constructed as strong as the “TOUCHDOWN ZONE” is. The “TOUCHDOWN ZONE” begins at the “THRESHOLD LINE” and ends at the far end of the “TOUCHDOWN ZONE MARKINGS.” The “TOUCHDOWN ZONE MARKINGS” main purpose is due to the construction strength of the runways. The airline’s landing procedures may be based on these markings. But as far as the FAA in the US is concerned if the aircraft touches down any where between the threshold line and the far end of the touchdown zone markings, it is a legal landing. At SXM the Ryanair landed on runway 28 and there are not any “TOUCHDOWN ZONE MARKINGS,” just an “AIMING POINT MARKING.” Runway 10 does have “TOUCHDOWN ZONE MARKINGS.”

[@Quillons1]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 You have ABSOLUTELY no idea what you're talking about. You're not a pilot. If you are a pilot, you need a 709 ride. Read the regs on where the Touchdown Zone is. Go ahead, I'll wait. They're the same in the USA and ICAO standards. I'm not even going to tell you the definition because I want you to read it and discover it for yourself so that you never make a rash response to someone who is actually correct, trying to correct them. You're wrong. The end. Read it.

[@JoshuaTheTransitProdigy]

😂😂😂😂😂 not the "drop it like it's hot". I'm dead 💀💀💀💀💀

[@Judgeprodz16]

Can we talk about how it’s exactly 3 minutes

[@fastica]

2:59 actually.

[@Sakonema]

2:24 Which landed first?

[@operationscomputer1478]

nothing wrong with the ryanair landing - right on the piano bars. good job!

[@petesmith1924]

Say ‘I have no idea about landing performance and where the touchdown point should be on a 737’ without using the words ‘I have no idea about landing performance and where the touchdown point should be on a 737’🙄

[@petesmith1924]

He touches down BEFORE the displaced threshold. He should be crossing the threshold at 50ft above it. He has COMPLETELY compromised safety.

[@1978sjt]

that was 2 mins and 59 seconds... RIPPED OFF!!!!

[@CessnaAviation]

I mean, it’s RYANAIR, knew it would happen some time 🤷

[@NEaviationn]

He owes us a second of aviation

[@jakehurst10]

Saudia was cooling the brakes presumably after a quick turn

[@Aviator727]

agreed

[@57silverwings]

The gear pins were never removed.

[@57silverwings]

You can see the gear covers retract but not the gear.

[@jakehurst10]

@@57silverwingsthe 787 landing gear doors automatically open a few seconds after the gear is off the ground

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@Aviator727no. More likely one of the brakes was inop and they had to let the wheel spin down to a stop, before retraction. The 787 doesn’t do quick turns quick enough for hot brakes.

[@Google_Does_Evil_Now]

Boeing Dreamliner at 1:00 wheels not retracting. The wheels failing to move is quite serious. Are Boeing seriously ferked!?

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Pilots didn’t select gear up. This is common when a brake is inop and they have to let a wheel spin down to a stop, before retraction

[@petesmith1924]

No it’s not. It will be an MEL dispatch requirement to leave the gear down for a period of time. It’s quite a frequent occurrence.

[@glocke380]

False advertising! The video is only 2:59. LOL

[@DeweyCheatumNHoweLLC]

Take it off the extra 15 seconds from last week

[@samuelgarrod8327]

It's not an advertisement.

[@notanairbusa380]

The dreamliner drops the doors early, that is a feature, the pilots dont usually retract for a while.

[@djtomoy]

0:35 please no videos with talking 🙏

[@projectdesign4675]

it was excellent flying......pilot knows his game!

[@Bampybear]

UNDERWHELMING

[@jiyushugi1085]

Pilots will sometimes delay gear retraction to allow the brakes to cool. Brakes can get hot during extended taxiing. You really don't want red hot brake discs tucked away next to the tires inside the wheel wells....

[@EdOeuna]

It’s not as simple as that.

[@geirha75]

perfect landings if you ask me...

[@100tallpaul]

Just what I needed to see when I gotta fly from Stansted to Germany on September 12th for work.... With Ryanair..... 😩

[@ozodyssey5528]

Surely there's 3 minutes of aviation that doesn't have that loudmouth at bigjettv

[@spicylemon2623]

It's his fucking channel why are you complaining?

[@josephszot5545]

Captain, following an old practice in earlier days, leaving gear out in the airstream to cool the brakes and tires.

[@Bryceplayz1]

UNDER 10MINS GANG

[@adamt4742]

8 min ago

[@Lauriedriver]

Oh dear,I think you need to get out more.

[@bealzibub4002]

First one looked like skiathos which has a short runway with sea at both ends.

[@ArthurTanner-d7s]

There's an 'expert' elsewhere on this thread who will tell you it's not Skiathos but Sint Maarten. If you wait until he's finished on Microsoft FlightSim I'm sure he'll tell you why. 😉

[@petesmith1924]

The fact it has sea at both ends is irrelevant.

[@bealzibub4002]

@@petesmith1924 cool story bro!

[@petesmith1924]

@@bealzibub4002🤷‍♂️ If you knew anything about operating jets you would realise. But hey ho…🤷‍♂️

[@bealzibub4002]

@@petesmith1924 all I said was that it looked like skiathos with sea at both ends of the runway. I didn’t mention anything about the landing so………………

[@Logan11thMEU]

Sometimes if the pilots get an indication that the brakes or tires get too hot after take off they purposefully leave the gear out to cool before they retract. Doesnt mean its a hydraulic failure. Ive seen this with the 757-200s at Manchester

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

Or what this is. Likely one of the brakes inop and they need to wait till the wheel spools down.

[@ArthurTanner-d7s]

How can pilots tell when the "tires get too hot"?

[@rtbrtb_dutchy4183]

@@ArthurTanner-d7s LOL, I missed him saying that. No, pilots don’t get an indication of tires being too hot. Hot tires isn’t even an issue. Tires don’t get too hot, only brakes.

[@ArthurTanner-d7s]

@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Well not quite. Tyres can overheat under certain conditions (heavy braking, low tyre pressure, cornering at high speed, an overweight aircraft) but @Logan11thMEU seems to think there is a way to monitor tyre temps and report those to the flight deck. I'm keen to hear exactly how he thinks that is done.

[@petesmith1924]

It’s a 787. It is more likely an MEL dispatch requirement.

[@SteveMUFC]

Ryanair probably running on fumes when landing 😂

[@trukr817]

Did the tires touch runway? Not too short, that leave more room in case something goes south, like brakes etc. Looked like and awesome landing to me, nice and smooth too. I've seen plenty land like that.

[@petesmith1924]

All of which are compromising landing performance calculations and reducing safety. They should be crossing the threshold at 50ft and NOT BELOW.

[@farmerthatflies]

I’m glad you know all about what I know about

[@emilijapikeryte5977]

He really said " drop it like its hot😂

[@ryanfrisby7389]

Great video!

[@kingghidorah8106]

it's oddly common to see Saudia 787's flying away and getting lost in the horizon with the wheels all down.

[@acreguy3156]

Great video!!!!!!!!!

[@timothypropst238]

When you have a brake temp sensor MELd the MEL requires you to leave the gear down for one minute after departure. At least that’s the way it is on the Airbus.

[@6yjjk]

*brake

[@timothypropst238]

@@6yjjk thank you! Fixed!

[@YourAverageAvgeek16]

For that Saudia 787, the pilot can leave the landing gear down after a long taxi or a short turnaround time like RyanAir so “never retracts its landing gear” is wrong. Or the pilot just forgot

[@Gunsforbuns]

2:30 woah, the rare, barely heard of shadow! What causes that phenomenom?

[@TheGrumpyEnglishman]

I guess he's not seen the phenomenon before!