3rd Gen 2023 Nissan Frontier - How To Disable Auto Start Stop Button

[@uperrsc]

Thanks for your efforts. A truck should only turn off when its driver turns it off.

[@khockstedler]

Can confirm! This works. I did it on my 2024 Nissan Frontier SV and it works perfectly.

[@SA-hk8xj]

Nice 👍 Always glad to see someone see the light and permanently disable this A.S.S. feature 😎 👍 I assume no codes are thrown as well?

[@chancey1979]

Thanks for watching. Nah no codes. Its just a switch and a switch just makes a connection of 2 wires. IN this case pressing a button is what makes the connection of the 2 wires. I just bypassed the button is all and the connection is always made. It's a hands off button free connection now

[@JohnEighty3]

I figured it out with the eliminator ....don't connect the power wire and it works

[@Mike.D.843]

Nice. Who would've thought it would be that simple! I was really disappointed to learn that Nissan added this "feature". If it's this simple to defeat, then that is awesome. I don't understand why they don't simply make it remember the last setting instead of defaulting to always on. I don't know anyone who likes auto start stop.

[@chancey1979]

The Eliminator does just what you say. It remembers. What i don't like about it is that it runs through your ECU and its powered by a 10Amp fuse, I changed this to a 2AMP and that is still WAAAAY To much but it does work. Check the link in the description to my ClubFrontier thread. There's 3 ways to disable it. I got the Shop Manual the Nissan Techs use and figured it all out via the shop manual wiring diagrams. Again, link is in the description.

[@UKnowBo]

We rented a Chevrolet that remembered the last setting- why can’t they all do that? Because they don’t want you making decisions for yourself. So thankful for this video. Thanks @chancey1979

[@PRO4XKEV]

4d Tech now has what you seek.

[@clarkkent9080]

sticking a piece of plastic in between the pushbutton and the button frame will and do the same thing, (since the button will always be depressed) as shorting the wires except you don't have to pull the dash apart.

[@chancey1979]

yeah i mean that whole 5 minutes it takes for a custom look - i mean, who'd want to do that?

[@clarkkent9080]

@@chancey1979 I was just indicating that you don't have to disassemble your dash to get the same result. They do make a newer defeat (4d tech) that does not require a separate power cord but it is ~ $99.

[@chancey1979]

@@clarkkent9080 yeah i've seen it. Here in Texas its hot year round. I just don't need it shutting off at all. I've seen that Eliminator and it isn't a bad choice either but with just a piece of wire laying around i don't have to deal with it at all. In fact, i jumped the connection, pulled out the switch all together and put in a 2022 Bezel. So i've completely deleted the switch. My dash looks like a 2022 which is the same as later years minus the A.S.S. switch

[@clarkkent9080]

@@chancey1979 I just bought a 2024 and discussed it with the salesman that said using it would void the warranty. And he was a cool very young guy. It is hard to tell what big Nissan brother knows about your vehicle. They emailed me the address where mine is parked, the mileage, doors locked, etc. I like the idea of this new defeat system that is in line with the normal wiring and does not require a power feed. Some systems apparently draw some (very little) power. this system simply "remembers" the last switch position (on or off) and returns to that on startup. If something happens and I have to take it in for warranty work, I don't want to have to open the dash and remove anything. Since this system allows you to put the system back in service by simply depressing the button, I think it would be less likely for a mechanic to notice. The simplest way to bypass it is to shove a small piece of plastic in the switch to keep it depressed. Anyway, I hate this kinda crap.

[@chancey1979]

@@clarkkent9080 YES, they will look for ANY REASON to void your warranty - you better believe it. They're not your friend. They don't notice as much as you think they do though as i've had all my oil changes there but since i totally deleted the button and put a '22 Bezel in with no A.S.S. switch i wouldn't take it for anything but warranty work. If they can tell its been jumpered by some scanner voodoo they'll be able to tell you're running an eiliminator so i don't buy that for a second. Only way they'll see my truck again is for warranty work and that more than likely will never happen. In fact i was just at the Nissan Parts Counter talking to the parts guy. He told me about his '24 PRO-X - i asked if he like the A.S.S. Said he hates it. I directed him to the ClubFrontier link thats in the description on how to delete it. They'll never see my truck so who cares what they think they know. You do realize you there's several ways to turn it off and you're commenting on 1 single way and 1 single video i made among many. Link in description to CLubFrontier has several other ways. One way is by disconnecting the grey plug on your negative battery post. Takes all of 5 seconds and A.S.S. is disabled along with the VVCS which i doubt you know much about either. Club Frontier is your friend. You can learn a lot there

[@LockStockAndBabble]

If you ran a wire from terminal 5 & 7 to a simple on/off switch wouldn't you have control the way it should have been from the factory to begin with?

[@chancey1979]

Yeah, basically what you're talking about is what the Eliminator does. It Remembers your last selection - On or Off with a powered memory chip inside. If you added an On/Off Switch you'd just be manually setting it up to either be On or Off the next time you turn it on or even while you're driving but an On/Off switch allows you to turn Auto Start Stop ON if you wanted too. The 3 ways i go over are all just to disable it except for he Eliminator which i think is great and would just use the eliminator if the switch wasn't run through the ECU but then again i totally deleted the button, got a '22 bezel and don't have the switch at all anymore. Turns out all you have to do to disable A.S.S. is to jumper pins 5 and 7. The button is not required. So behind my dash is the A.S.S. harness with a jumper wire in it and button taken out with '22 bezel

[@PRO4XKEV]

We can all thank our Government and EPA for this bullshit. Same with some vehicles having 2 or 4 cylinders shut down at cruise speed. LOL.

[@chancey1979]

Yeah, The EPA - couldn't agree more

[@clarkkent9080]

I don't like all this auto stuff either. But I have a Mazda CX-5 (4 cylinder) with cyclinder deactivation and I can monitor it but I never feel it switch. I can be driving on level ground at 70 mph and 2 cylinders will shut down. If your coasting to a red light, all cylinders shut down and the transmission locks up so the wheels are turning the engine and when the rpms drops to idle (600 rpm) all cylinders fire and your stopped with the engine idling. It really works well and as often as it functions, it must save fuel.

[@markheldt8026]

Will this be the same for he 2023 Pathfinders

[@chancey1979]

Probably.

[@ACDInc1]

The auto manufacturers need to rethink the auto stop. It should default to disabled upon starting the vehicle. If a driver wants the feature, then he should push the button to enable it.

[@jimboslice7389]

I just unplugged the harness next to the negative battery terminal. My auto start/stop does blink. I don’t even notice it anymore. I may have to try this.

[@chancey1979]

Yep, thats one way to do it too - the blinking light didn't bother me as its grey and blends in with all the other lights. Thats was the first way i found. There's 2 other ways as well. Link to ClubFrontier thread in the description. I go over all of it. I got the Nissan Shop Manual the Techs use and figured it all out.

[@clarkkent9080]

Removing that wire effects the VVCS as well. I have yet to investigate the wiring schematics and computer logic but my understanding is that it is a control input to the alternator. I would think removing it would make the alternator think the battery is dead and max out the alternator. If that is the case, you will eventually damage the battery from over charging and the alternator from over heating. Things that seem simple rarely are.

[@ACDInc1]

The vehicle manufacturers need to rethink the auto stop feature. It should default to disable, and then if the driver wants to use the feature, he can choose to turn it on.

[@clarkkent9080]

@@ACDInc1 If it can be permanently turned off then the EPA fuel and emissions tests must leave it off during testing.

[@igoranisimov6549]

It disables the feature permanently. For $80-100 you may get an adapter that remembers the last state of the button. Then you will be able to use the button again, if you get stuck in a traffic jam.

[@igoranisimov6549]

4d Tech eliminator works fine.

[@chancey1979]

Of course disables permanently - thats the point. Have yet to see anyone without the A.S.S. option asking how they can add it. - It's hated. My 2024 Hyundai doesn't even have it. Anyways, Already went Eliminator Route which can be bought on AMazon for $15 - even have a video on it. I've done it all and figured out all ways to disable it with the NIssan Service Manual - THOROUGHLY. Check the link to ClubFrontier for the link in the description. - Here's the link tho - AND theirs also a copy of the Nissan Wiring Diagrams from THe Nissan Service manual so download your copy for free. Again, I've Been THOROUGH: www.clubfrontier.org/posts/4127389/

[@chancey1979]

@@igoranisimov6549 I"ll give credit where it's due. At least the eliminator you posted doesn't have a power wire to power the chip like the $15 ones on AMazon. Regardless, the Jumper method takes the EXACT amount of time to install. Also, i've yet to find anywhere that someone is asking how to install the A.S.S. option on their non equiped vehicle. My 2024 Hyundai thankfully doesn't even have the option. IN the the description there's a link to my ClubFrontier thread. I've THROUGHLY gone over ALL ways - there are MULTIPLE WAYS to disable the feature with the Official Nissan Factory Manual. This is just one video from a thread with tons of info. Btw you must live somewhere cool bc here in Texas that A.S.S. feature is hot garbage. AC MUST stay on at all times. I'll just post the CF Link here. In the 1st post i've uploaded the COMPLETE wiring schematics for all 3rd Gens so get your OFFICIAL free copy - ENJOY: www.clubfrontier.org/threads/auto-start-stop-a-s-s-deleted.387547/

[@eddiehaskell5578]

Boy, thanks for the info. Pushing the button to turn it off was to difficult.😅

[@chancey1979]

You're a liar if you say you remember to do that everytime.

[@rods6741]

If you remember to do it EVERY TIME, you need more stress in your life.

[@chancey1979]

HERE's THE UPDATED VIDEO FOR THE ELIMINATOR - IT GOT IT WORKING: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h3K4oZSrdrukbKs

[@diegovn]

I was looking for this!

[@RexHolbrook]

Im glad my 23 doesn’t have it

[@RKDriver]

'23's have it. Probably every '23 actually built in 2023 like mine.

[@kamryn7496]

@@RKDrivermy 23 doesn’t

[@Ryan152103]

23’s have it just the later ones towards the end of the year

[@rods6741]

Is it too late to boycott models with this "feature"? No, I get it. Simpletons will keep buying them.

[@clarkkent9080]

You would have to boycott every new vehicle.