4.8 - Did Natlan Imprison the Saurians?, What You Need to Know Before Natlan | Genshin Lore & Theory

[@Golden12500]

I've been throwing around the idea that Natlan City is a neutral ground/trading hub where all 6 major tribes can interact peacefully. Perhaps they hold some sort of yearly gathering to discuss economic and political plans for the coming times like the Reverie in One Piece. The Archon could be the one overseeing things in the neutral ground like a UN secretary general.

[@Deepstab1]

Why would the archon of war precide over neutral ground and pacifism?

[@Golden12500]

@@Deepstab1 War is their ideal, not exactly something they're trying to cause. Fontaine may be the nation of Justice but some people like Veronique have a corrupt sense of "justice"

[@thecrystalliaguild]

oh when I saw someone point out what looked like a city in the teaser I was thinking a similar idea that it's like a special spot for celebrations, tournaments, meet ups, etc. between all tribes either that or it's just a city but for everyone

[@AruHiseki]

the World Summit in the Holy Land (Fertile Lands in Natlan?) Mary Geoise every four years (400 for Natlan maybe?) is too close to Teyvat's cataclysm of 500 years.... AGGHHH I want to see some form of Joyboy in Natlan

[@Golden12500]

@@AruHiseki I mean the 4.8 plot from the trailer suggests we'll fight a Dragon in Natlan, like Kaido, and the name Joyboy comes from a mythological character who was said to have come to the Carribean(the iconic home of Pirates) from West Africa... Is the Traveler's new title in Natlan the Warrior of Liberation?

[@alexanderericson8628]

What is evident is that dragons took a major hit in their development cycle. There must be a reason for this since Celestias only rule is to not create a species other than your own. Egeria broke that rule after crossing Oceanids with primordial water, leading to the narwhal trying to absorb the primordial water back into it's body. However that prophecy is later explained to been created by Veldfolnir, and the narwhal is the "pet" of Surtalogi another sinner. This is somewhat confusing because Surtalogis disciple Skirk took Childe in and trained him so he would be ready on that day to defeat the narhwal. Was all of that planned to create a rift in the Firmament the fake sky. If so that is wild. Hoyo has shown that the narwhal breaks through the fake sky through Childes constellation. Were the Sinners trapped outside the firmament and now have access to Theyvats leylines or was that whole prophecy set up to free Childe from fate, and if so what are their intentions with him in the future. We see a sinner inside a memory and it appears that they have trouble appearing in Theyvat in physical form. It's more than likely that the narwhal shattered Childes original fate. Since the narwhal feels what Childe feel it's reasonable to speculate that the narwhal IS Childe but what his fate would have looked like, therefore it's a Childe in the future in the form of a trapped narwhal that breaks him out. It would explain the mutual feelings they have and why the connection was made in the Abyss. He is now free to weave his own fate after that since his constellation no longer exist in the firmament. This has never happened before and it should mean that Childe is the only character currently in game that is capable of fighting Celestia. Side note Dainsleif mentions "it" as well in a conversation with Halfdan in the Chasm, this could suggest that the potential protagonists in the game are all connected to some form of star beast and that Dainsleif was aware that in order to change fate "it" must be defeated first. This would I suspect be a part of the "truth of this world" and what Celestia is trying to shelter Theyvat from with a giant dome wrapped around it. Dottore is travelling across the world trying to obtain all kinds of knowledge in order to become an artificial god using Scaramouche and creating his entire tragic story in order to trick him into a test subject. All while Childe was destined to be one effortlessly. The irony is that Tsaritsa is looking for a solution in all her harbingers while the boy that joined the Fatui last on a whim has all her answers in his palm. How aware Tsaritsa is currently of Childes power is unknown no Fatui saw him fight the narwhal unless Arlecchino had spies in that audience which is somewhat likely. It should be noted that Arlecchino does not show any sign of interest in Childe but that could just be a ploy from her, shortly after seeing him she takes a long time pondering her situation the player assumes that it's about Clervie but it could just as easily be her next move regarding Childe. Arlecchinos story let us know that while Arlecchino appreciates Tsaritsa she isn't submissive towards her rather regard her as an equal in the game of thrones. This means that even if Arlecchino knows what Childe was able to do it's not necessary obvious that she is going to pass that information to her when she eventually returns to Snezhnaya

[@thexqueen6709]

I love this idea! It also makes sense about the sinners plotting the prophecy of Fontaine. Skirk even mentioned how the narwhal is a bad pet on many levels

[@AruHiseki]

ahhhh I need to do Bedtime quest to undertand this huhu, but man thats a great sinner theory o.o

[@montse3139]

@@alexanderericson8628 That's right! Childe fits with what we know for the moment about how to become a descender, have you read about the theory of his reencarnations?

[@alexanderericson8628]

@@montse3139 Are they on reddit?

[@alexanderericson8628]

@@montse3139 I was thinking that Childe might be a loom of fate and Surtalogi is preparing him for that. But they have Caribert now, so I am not sure but Caribert seems less likely to co operate. You have the connection with the "Foul" and what Childe is using is called the Foul's legacy. I kind of think they have prepared him since birth.

[@HERMES097]

just a tiny correction on the pronunciation, yupanqui is a spanish translation of the quechua name, meaning the u in q"u"i is silent, a better way to read it for english speakers would be yupanki

[@mitab1]

The nation was just teased yesterday and y'all already blaming Celestia?

[@user-biscut]

Yes. Both Celestia and the Abyss (all forms) deserve blame.

[@mitab1]

@@user-biscut still, we barely saw anything about natlan, and dude is already like "yup, Celestia destroyed natlan"

[@user-biscut]

@@mitab1 I'm not necessarily agreeing with his statement. I'm just judging Celestia and all forms of the Abyss with extreme prejudice. That's just me personally.

[@adamek8316]

If you don't know who did it, Celestia did.

[@thewanderingartists]

I blame celestia for losing my 50-50 too

[@AloyImpact]

I can’t wait bro I’m so excited

[@nicbkat]

the new 4.8 quest makes me think natlan is gonna be almost like a democracy, where the six tribes once depended on the archon but will come to chose their own paths where they share the pyro authority and the archons isn’t rlly the archon but more of a spokesperson or representative. power in the people type thing

[@a-passerby]

I kinda wonder.... We see that Saurians of every other element exists than Pyro, and probably people of every other element also exists, definitely pyro too....but something tells me that If u think about it, Each element can represent a nation, which is ruled by Celestia, right? Now if u take pyro and put it above the rest, it will kind of feel like pyro one is ruling over or controlling other 6 elements Couldn't this hint at Pyro archon's and even the pyro main tribe's or the "royal/noble" tribe people's character? Kind of reminds me of old Mondstadt ruled by the aristocrats.... What do u all think?

[@starlight14673]

true also wasnt murata's tribe like forgotten when they came to mondstadt venessa does have pyro power what if pyro tribe is the descendants of murata's children tribe? then why would murata throw her ppl out??

[@AruHiseki]

Pyro being the main ruling element of the six... That would mean that Pyro could also rule over all the dragons. King Nibelung!

[@a-passerby]

@@AruHiseki Exactly!! Well its just a theory

[@kotarouinugami1745]

I think that maybe the events described in that artifact set, are the events that led to exile of Muratans, who were the main supporters of half-human tyrant.

[@KakoThePoet]

W video, but btw pronunciation- Xbalanque “esh-bawh-lawn-keh” and Quetzalcoatl “Kweht-zahl-co-ah-tl” just for future reference 👍

[@iantorres3119]

X in old Spanish had more of a "shē" sound. That's why some Hispanic names like Ximena turned to Jimena

[@iantorres3119]

Also, there is no 'kwe' sound. The u is silent so it is 'ket'

[@KakoThePoet]

@@iantorres3119 I’m talking about the Maya and Nahuatl pronunciations :)

[@AruHiseki]

ohh I'll keep this in mind next time :D

[@Necrochaosium]

It will interesting to see how the the prequel manga about the lost tribe that vanessa was from fits into the overarching lore of natlan.

[@AruHiseki]

Yeahhh I want to see more Muratan tribe lores soon X_X Vanessa's tribe and Murata, hasnt been mentioned again since the Ludi Harpastrum I think...

[@montse3139]

Quetzalcóatl / Kukulkán was known for giving knowledge to the humans so they could prosper, also he and his brother Tezcatlipoca were the ones to form the earth and sky by killing Cipactli/Tlaltecuhtli, a deity who was a marine creature that lived in the primordial waters. Tenoch is pronunciation is Teh-no-sh. The pyr amid from the upper right side is from the Teotihuacán culture and there is also a moon one. The "trinket" you show is the solar stone from the Mexica (or commonly known Aztec) culture carved with astronomy knowledge from them.

[@skybattler2624]

Note, your mistake is saying 'inquisition' and not 'conquista" Inquisition is the removal of protestantism in Spanish held Catholic lands, while conquista is the conquering of the New World, usually by conquistadors

[@AruHiseki]

Was scared to use both really X_X. but thanks for the correctio :D

[@kakoXIII]

​@@AruHisekiscared of what?

[@Kageyamaaberriesweet]

Lmao😂 Ok, so as an African, you did amazing, justice at pronouncing these names because they are pretty hard some ppl don't try as hard to pronounce names and more my favorite part about this was the possibility of resurrection and talking about the lands and more

[@xtremdragon]

going through this the first time, just feels like noise. All these names are just confusing me even more.

[@senatuspopulusqueromanus2082]

Honestly, Natlan does look like something that was fucked up beyond belief once

[@kotarouinugami1745]

I am thinking that maybe the youth that came from the flame and went into the flame when it was all over, was the Pyro Archon of the time.

[@cristalaguilar6197]

They prob have the pyro sovereign chained up beneath that big volcano or set in a big mountain

[@Zero_Li24]

0:00 Nostalgia 🥹

[@AruHiseki]

Fellow hunter 🤝

[@GavinGenshin]

Sakook? Well that was immediately wrong

[@captaindanger13]

7:05 alright i see where they got the natlan vision frame design from lol

[@AruHiseki]

yeappp, every vision is a free calendar in Natlan

[@Iwantapookie]

After nikou and her skin ill save for the archon

[@kdashchronicles5204]

4:48 2PAC should be a chatacter in Genshin

[@SakiBlablabla]

Well he was named after one of them so technically he kind of is …

[@shanedoesyoutube8001]

Ughhhhh I'm reminded of Ms Ames (Raiden Ei) from class of 09

[@AruHiseki]

he was mentioned in the Talking stick, hopefully he has a descendant 🙏

[@thomasgaming7656]

Wait 2 more patches

[@lazyvoid7107]

Nah it's mostly 5.1

[@captaindanger13]

ikr time is FLYING

[@starlight14673]

true lol but we might get a natlan full trailer with CAPITANO before 5.0

[@AruHiseki]

I actually cant wait X_X

[@ljleonardo4909]

I honestly thought Natlan would be more african based

[@robertmelconde8151]

ayos na video. Sigurado pa akong may kultura pang ilalabas ang ibang tribo ng natlan kapag nasa natlan arc na tayo sa ngayon africa at south america palang ang pinapakita

[@WhiteKoneko]

Yes for now but we'll see more in 5.1 and 5.2 ❤🎉 Very exciting!!

[@xxmatchalattexx5414]

If it's African culture why are there white people show cased in it?

[@3mptysh3ll38]

lmfao mh reference

[@AruHiseki]

fellow hunter!

[@rosies69]

I'm still confused why they look like pokemon/pokemon trainers. And wheres iansan? Also THIS will be the land thats based on AMERICA. more so native america. Fontaine is france btw 😁

[@WhiteKoneko]

To be more precise Central America, South America, Africa...pretty much the ring of fire.

[@garb8933]

lol i dont get why the characters are so pale and look so modern, not like those cultures at all 😭

[@captaindanger13]

@@garb8933 half of hoyo's revenue is from china so they're definitely gonna pander to them a bit.

[@captaindanger13]

fontaine is more than just france just as all of the other regions are based on more than 1 country.

[@starlight14673]

@@garb8933 hoyo wont prbly add dark characs. i didnt even expected a bit the enemies gives the vibes but characs. are cute and have their sneakers on but they are indeed not dark hope that hoyo atleast adds dark prev. pyro archon

[@arosdeco1629]

The way content creators are desperately trying to salvage Natlan is pathetic. It's gonna be a flop guys, prepare for Sumeru 2.0, no respect to mexican culture, just plain fantasy jungle with ugly little pokemon they are calling "dragons".

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

Bruh 😂