Video Contents 0:00 - Intro 1:18 - Trek Session Geometry and Details 3:05 - Old Session vs. New Session 4:19 - 29 vs Mullet 5:57 - Bike Cockpit Setup 9:10 - Easy Suspension Setup 10:22 - Sprindex Adjustable Coil 11:08 - High Pivot Hype? 13:53 - Progression Mino Link 14:08 - Weaknesses 17:45 - Strengths 19:27 - Bottom Line 21:30 - Value $3,399 Canyon Sender 6 Review - kzbin.info/www/bejne/aommpnirfs1kiqc $6,999 Pivot Phoenix Race Review - kzbin.info/www/bejne/ap6lcp2Jh7ujfK8
@evanblackwell39203 жыл бұрын
I've said this before, but as someone who races and likes to consider themselves a pretty good rider (whether that is the case or not...), its awesome to see testers with a) different riding styles, and b) seriously good bike handling skills and racing pedigree. When watching some reviews, you can visibly see some testers from other sites lacking some key riding skills, struggling to jump or lean the bike properly into corners, which always makes me wonder if it was the limits of the bike or their skills that drive their verdicts. That is clearly not the case here, as you have two high level racers riding the bikes with very different styles. As a viewer, that gives me a lot more confidence in the verdict they draw and more insight into what products will work for me.
@vitalmtb3 жыл бұрын
glad that these reviews are helpful for you!
@Jon-nz3dm3 жыл бұрын
@@vitalmtb I'll just add to that...this new style of bike reviews is awesome. I don't even have the slightest interest in a DH bike as a Texan, but y'all are killing it
@Alexandros_Patsialidis3 жыл бұрын
100% agreed ❗️👌🏼
@topspot48343 жыл бұрын
Spot on. I mean, most guys and gals doing these reviews could rip, but if you're genuinely interested in purchasing one of these bikes, you want to see it pushed to it's limits, by a knowledgeable pro with experience riding different bikes, disciplines and terrain. This new format is perfect. Very helpful, especially cause they're not afraid to say some negatives about em too. Not every bike is for everyone, and unlike many reviews, they'll let you know who is for and who it's not.
@andrewaltermatt64993 жыл бұрын
You guys just have to put these out on Fridays. Now I have to take 30 minutes out of my day at work haha
@WyattBrown3773 жыл бұрын
Looks like a Session
@justinmcmenamin90373 жыл бұрын
Griz with that “Fast Times” jersey🙌🤘
@HUSHHUSH-3 жыл бұрын
The intro is so catchy. Awesome bike . Would love to have the money for one ☝️ of them bad boys to include in the fleet .
@Kraken-uu6bb3 жыл бұрын
Hey Vital, could you please test the new Propain Rage? The downhill community would be uuber appreciative.
@Monsterislandkrew3 жыл бұрын
Griz struttin out with that pimp walk
@MillenialFuddOutdoors3 жыл бұрын
Limpin' ain't easy!
@TeilzeitSender3 жыл бұрын
alright i get it, 4999 is budget. i guess im living in a different world
@devinwillis77873 жыл бұрын
For dh bikes you don't get much bike for less than 4500. Kind of the nature of having such low sales for a style of bike
@razortec3 жыл бұрын
@@devinwillis7787 like enduro bikes are any cheaper...
@devinwillis77873 жыл бұрын
@@razortec you can get fairly high end Enduro bikes for 4500 so yeah I'd say they are. If you're on a tight budget you can get a really good bike for 3k from commencal and yt so I'd say thats a good value for an Enduro bike
@TeilzeitSender3 жыл бұрын
@@devinwillis7787 thats not my point, the only thing I say is that 5k is not budget, not what you get for the money. It is for sure one of the cheaper DH Bikes, but still expensive af...
@devinwillis77873 жыл бұрын
@@TeilzeitSender budget just refers to cheaper than most of the other bikes. If 5k isnt in your budget you probably don't need a dh race bike anyway
@samrobertson2331 Жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me the correct size of Sprindex coil for the Trek Session 8? Nightmare information online Thanks
@bigappleandbass93793 жыл бұрын
So a 5k bike is budget now ??
@TeilzeitSender3 жыл бұрын
same ??
@zchatora29793 жыл бұрын
my dream bike
@ryankidd22163 жыл бұрын
5k for an entry level aluminium bike with a pretty modest build kit 🥴
@wumbobo3 жыл бұрын
That's Trek for you. Just wait for Trek to make a new Session in carbon and release a "pro build" for $10k.
@wx29993 жыл бұрын
Alumimum is better than carbon
@joshmarks39543 жыл бұрын
@@speedpilot I’m no racer, but my new tues comp has transformed my riding on steep and large features. Second bike is a ibis ripmo AF, great bike too but the tues just gives me so much confidence to send it.
@J.E..2 жыл бұрын
4:57 what would be his parkbike pik?
@thelongestnameinthecomment96772 жыл бұрын
17:07 after riding a Supreme it feels like the poppiest bike on earth
@maxencegregoire86182 жыл бұрын
supreme aint even bad at jumping isnt it?
@thelongestnameinthecomment96772 жыл бұрын
@@maxencegregoire8618 hell of a lot worse than the session
@maxencegregoire86182 жыл бұрын
@@thelongestnameinthecomment9677 im guessing the weight? Supreme is my first and only dh bike so i cant comparé
@thelongestnameinthecomment96772 жыл бұрын
@@maxencegregoire8618 nah the session weighs a similar amount it's just cuz the high pivot makes it harder to pop, i had a norco aurum and it was the same
@antrace923 жыл бұрын
Hey vital, great video, but what does the summer of downhill mean? Plenty more bike reviews? I hope so
@vitalmtb3 жыл бұрын
we have 5 DH bikes being reviewed this summer. Pivot Phoenix is done - kzbin.info/www/bejne/ap6lcp2Jh7ujfK8 - trek done, YT tues comp, canyon sender 6 and scott gambler 930 - after they're all done individually, they'll be compared, too!
@nealhrmgns3 жыл бұрын
I bought this bike just this summer and after the first ride the headset would have some clicking noise, i had my local bike shop work on it and after riding it again it would come back. Did you guys have this issue while you guys were testing it?
@soimdavid3 жыл бұрын
You need to grease it, I bought a New Trek Fuel Ex and Slash both were running dry from the factory.
@danaminyip3 жыл бұрын
weight would effect traction positively
@ceogeo61063 жыл бұрын
It would ? Well let’s make it heavier
@vitalmtb3 жыл бұрын
which is why it was mentioned that for DH racing, the weight may not be an issue. for jumping, park flicking, it's a bit on the stout side.
@danaminyip3 жыл бұрын
@@ceogeo6106 no need it's probably perfect.
@bigmikeshooter3 жыл бұрын
The bikes getting more and more expensive....5K it's a lot of money....
@bodevisavino52812 жыл бұрын
One day 🥺
@cougar2310003 жыл бұрын
Lol since when 5k Is "on a Budget"?
@Basement_CNC3 жыл бұрын
looks like a session 😆 verry nice bike , but i dont race , so dh bikes dont really make sence for me ,i rather spend 5k on something else , i ride my 140mm trail bike at the same speed over every feature at my local bike parks , but id like to try a 160 to 180mm freeride or enduro bike
@prophetd69563 жыл бұрын
5000$? Haha!!! Commencal, Propain, Scott, Canyon.
@vitalmtb3 жыл бұрын
we have canyon, YT and scott reviews coming.
@joshmarks39543 жыл бұрын
@@vitalmtb YT tues??? Please !!!
@koreanmtnbiker29313 жыл бұрын
This $5k DH bike, weight would be my only grip. At 38lbs, is too much. Under 35lbs would be idea.
@lukasbormann48303 жыл бұрын
"For you rippers on a budget " and then put a 5k bike....Uhm what
@karlodrmesic18683 жыл бұрын
5k is a budget bike?! I dont think so haha
@hazza7883 жыл бұрын
You can get a commencal supreme with a similar frame design but way nicer components for that price...
@karlodrmesic18683 жыл бұрын
@@hazza788 yea i was looking just yesterday and compared some bikes and prices.... Its crazy how prices are jumping these days...
@yogi31032 жыл бұрын
Sometimes reviews are a bit of a head scratcher. Is it the bike or your skills??? Kinda like an F1 Car anyone can review it but not everyone can “drive” it.