【4】Eye Rig part 2 Physics + Eyebrow + copy-pasting

[@MerelyWufeii]

Common Problems 1. Only one eye shock: Edit the other EyeOpen to have a maximum of 1.4 too! 2. 9:24 Glue colors are inverse of mine: apply glue until eyebrow and eyebrow sh are different colors, doesn’t matter if the colors are inverse 3. Can’t create a deformer (error: please create an object with same parent deformer selected) Make sure your selected elements are of the same hierarchy! So you can’t select child layers and the parent deformer together. You can click the little ( v ) above the deformer window until it becomes ( ﹥ ) and it will collapse the deformers, so you can better tell what’s on the same hierarchy. See my post for more info: kzbin.infoUgkx8fZ6rX4mblhgTsGUNLgCT6SUYNydsfWt?si=69KbNHw539LtqLVP 4. Reflect eye doesn’t go to the other side: A deformer takes the axis of reflection from its parent deformer, so likely you have another deformer on top of what you're trying to reflect!

[@VantAlex]

What do I do if I have 4? I don't see any other deformer 😭

[@NostalgiaArtist]

thank u for saving my life /j /pos

[@АнастасияМалая-х5э]

I have a problem with gluing. It always ends uo either with not being able to move an eyebrow anymore(I make the brow fully turquoise), or I can move but a part of eyebrow is glued to place so the eyebrow deforms(tried to use glue only on one part of eybrow), or part of an eyebrow stays in place but it's shadow moves (on that part there is a bit of red). In my glueing, the eyebr shadow is turquoise and the eyebrow is green/yellow. Edit: I think I somehow figured it out, I made all eyebrow red and it somehow worked

[@DeRpiePaNdiT]

That feeling when you watch your art come alive for the first time 😳 The first blink sent me into a fit of giggles like a mad scientist🤣Not enough words to express how much I appreciate your tutorial series 💜

[@sleepysammy333]

this is as far as i've gotten in one session (and on the free version, let's see how far i can get- already had to remove his lower body bc too many layers-) and i gotta give you a HUGE thank you for offering a tutorial like this for free, seriously, it helps so so much!!!

[@franchezvibritannia7320]

anything new on your second session?

[@sleepysammy333]

@@franchezvibritannia7320 YES, am currently on it and have discovered some issues due to me using the free version - 1) i cannot glue the eyebrow to the shadow since i can't copy and paste the art mesh, so i had to create an additional deformer for the shadow, 2) and the bigger issue,,, i can't save the file now because the free version only allows for 3 blend shape objects (i think that's the eye physics for the left eye) so i'm not sure what to do about that right now - might update once i find a solution for it

[@sleepysammy333]

i might have to leave the eyes linked so they're tracked by one eye, restricting them to 3 parameters for now - not entirely sure yet

[@charistellajesayutitaley8598]

@@sleepysammy333 why you didn't use 40 days pro free trial? 40 days is enough for rigging one character

[@LeeLemon008]

@@sleepysammy333 If I'm understanding the glue problem correctly... you can still glue them on the free version if you select both objects (eyebrow + shadow) and then manually mesh them at the same time (the vertices should lie exactly on top of each other if you create them while both meshes are selected). Or you can also manually move existing vertices so they lie on top of each other (I think you can still bind them even if they're not *exactly* aligned...) People normally just copy+paste one mesh onto the other because it's a lot less hassle

[@rayray5918]

I've been learning L2D every now and then with the models i made myself for like a year now. I know the basics well BUT THIS TUTORIAL SERIES IS CHANGING EVERYTHING. For some reason i have never thought of making the "eye skin" warp to make the eyes look even more realistic as they move (and haven't seen it done in the few tutorials i watched). MY MIND IS BLOWN!!

[@Talonos2]

Alright! Finished this one too! Man, the physics major in me was going *nuts* as I was doing this. I was like "But... pupils don't do this! Irises don't do this! Eyelashes *don't do this!*" And then I go back to video 1 and look at your completed poopoo model and I'm like... "I've got to trust the process..." I'm glad I did. By the time its finished, using the "Squash and Stretch" animation principle looks way better than trying to make it physically accurate to the way eyes behave. Thanks so much for your tutorials! I'll keep working my way through them one a day!

[@monstai5632]

As someone who watched dozens of tutorials to get through her degree in animation, these lessons have been a DELIGHT to follow through. Easy, intuitive, straight to the point, but still going through every tool. I feel like I started from 0 into knowing my way around the program. All of this was also very easy due to the free poopoo model you allowed us to use. Thank you!!

[@MerelyWufeii]

This is the best compliment I could get!! It’s what I always wanted to achieve as someone who can’t sit through long tutorials myself thank youuu 🥺❤️

[@monstai5632]

​@@MerelyWufeii of course

[@tootbubex]

ive tried rigging a few models but this by far is the best tutorial, simple, concise and actually great tips. ill be rubbing the model in all my friends’ faces 🙏

[@doggoo69]

your tutorials are so helpful! it is easy to understand. im just practicing how to rig rn on the free version and to know stuff so for when i get the pro trial ill be able to finish rigging quickly. Poopoo's model is so adorable too

[@wordydird]

Man I hate to complain because this is so incredible and I really appreciate it but yeah the Right and Left being swip-swapped is super confusing! It's okay though! I will persevere! Thank you for your hard work

[@UnknownDraw]

i have the eye details (shading etc) clipped to the main iris while the iris is clipped to the eye socket. However the details still clip through the eyelid and shows outside the eye. This may be a personal problem with my layering but i was wondering if you knew how i could fix this. If i was unclear please let me know^^

[@MerelyWufeii]

Oh that is a common problem I had too, I try to avoid it by only having layers that clip to eye white but if you reaaally do need it to clip to iris, the solution would be double clipping as so: x.com/maikohbe/status/1601406777865949185?s=46&t=L4EEqvTgfgjJcS-GpBzZdA

[@MiyaMam948]

I really enjoy the process of seeing you do things in real time, messing up, fixing things, inserting addendums. It’s good to see how things play out if you do this or do that or accidentally do that and how to solve the issue. I much prefer this style of tutorial over the highly-edited-and-perfected style

[@olieq4765]

Just finished rigging the eyess of your poopoo model

[@YummyCo0kies30]

Thank you so much for this tutorial and providing the psd file, it's really easy to understand plus it teaches us all the things we should do with our models before-hand, it's really well done

[@hilla3353]

I'm only at 5:13 but wow... this is so helpful. A year ago I tried to make my frist model. It didn't look that good but most importantly I kept messing things up. I followed multiple tutorials but I couldn't find a "full" one, so it was pure chaos. For the first time today I managed to get something right, and my eye jiggles😂 Thank you

[@PokeAmp]

lol when i heard you say "and now its time to duplicate everything to the other side" i was like F*^* because iv been going back and forth copieing everything on the other eye x_x

[@zoxl-l1s]

this is so much easier to understand since i have a lot of experience with 3D modeling. it looks fun ngl

[@franchezvibritannia7320]

Ok, so this video was how far I could get to on the free version! When I try to save, I get the: "The limit of Blend Shape parameters is exceeded (3 objects) You have assigned 6Blend Shape parameters to the opbject. Save dailed, Pleae try again meeting the restrictions" This happened right after I finished following the video, the way I fixed it was moving back the 3 paramaters of Iris R p1, 2, and 3 back to Iris L p 1, 2, and 3. I'm going to Save it, and then start the trial version and seperate the iris L and R physics again. I wonder how far i can get with the free version by leaving both R and L iris physics together, but that will be for another day!

[@carlwilliams7333]

Drat. Looks like pasting meshes is a Pro only feature. They really know how to get inconvinient to the freebies

[@foodforfaeries]

Thankyou so much this is so much clearer than the tutorial Live2D links to

[@Evieegotlost]

13:15 In the last video you added the shocked eye expression but when I do the changing of the parameter here it didn't carry it over for the next eye, it only goes up to default. Why is that? Edit: Nvm fixed it myself! I realized you just needed to change the max range amount to the same as the parameter you're copying lol

[@ananijesusjesus5309]

THANK YOU

[@agatha7932]

I spended a whole day trying to find why my model was with weirdos onion skins, I just pressed the wrong button aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[@zeviolett]

when i change the parameters from right to left...it messes it all up.. why

[@DumberDore]

hi miss wufei! what do i do if in eye physics, when i want my iris thingy to look at the right, but it looks at the left instead? please help idk if this is normal ahh

[@anko_bun]

This entire tutorial series has been amazing. ;w; I've been able to rig my character's head with physics now, but something seems to have happened when I went back to the eyes and re-copypasted. I retraced steps for copypasting and linking the EyeR physics to EyeL, but now the other eye won't blink automatically in the Modeling > Physics Setting window! The physics are working, though...Has anyone else had this problem? I'm so lost as to what happened...

[@PokeAmp]

on the eye lights you can just right click and reflect instead of moving it out and in

[@cheesydraws]

you did not mention how to get the physics from the highlight from r to l after you reflect. since you take the highlights out and then put them back in, they do not have the physics from l's eyes. how do you get the physics back? do you have to remake them?

[@MerelyWufeii]

If you need physics done on an asymmetric art mesh or deformer, it’s best to remake them! In my case I didn’t give the asymmetrical highlight its own physics so I didn’t need to do anything, I just put it in the iris p deformer which was symmetrical reflected from r to l.

[@nsjhdhdhdbhsudgvdydb7751]

thanks so much for the beginner tutorials they are helping me alot with my first rig. im doing a pixel art v tuber

[@Bekkocho]

Man the eyebrow + eyebrow sh glue step has halted my progress - I've tried everything shown in the video, and it's still not working as expected. The eyebrow just doesn't hold more weight than the shadow - I tried to use Glue for that, it didn't function properly no matter what I did. And the deformer would randomly stop being associated with the eyebrow, I just don't know what's wrong 😭 UPDATE: went back to the start, redid it all, and I figured out what was wrong and fixed it, ahhh

[@Judy-xm2ml]

Does anyone have trouble gluing the shadow to the eyebrow 😢 when I bind, some dots just aren't bonded 🥺

[@Bluehousesys]

Hoping the future videos go a bit slower, I'm only 3 min in and feel like I'm in a speeding bus with seatbelts off 💀 -- I'm a bit slow to process things, especially if new or complicated, and it almost feels like there was a rush for time

[@MerelyWufeii]

Please please slow down the vid as much as you need 🙏🙏I personally get distracted way too much if things are slow so this is just a pace that I like, totally understand if it isn’t for you!

[@Wizora]

my rig is MUCH simpler than this one, so im actually struggling with what steps to skip 🤣

[@mohammadtariqrahim4468]

this is the best tut. I hate to complain but I'm having issues with my eyebrows as they are not binding

[@omalga]

I have a question, soo there is an information that you shouldnt add more than 2 parameters to a single object because the performance will be bad. But I saw a lot of speed up processes of really pretty models with physics etc where people completely ignored that and assigned like 5 parameters to a single object like for example a lot of different physics and movement too, f eg for the eyes. and the results were astonishingly pretty, but they ignored the 2 parameter rule. and now I dont know how it really is.

[@MerelyWufeii]

You can disregard the rule if the params are blendshapes! I’ll have a tutorial for hair physics later on where you add multiple blendshapes, but for normal params I def don’t recommend adding more than 2 for unless you completely understand how 3+ param works.

[@YumenoUmii]

it feels like i found a real diamond.. ty for ur tutorial!🩷

[@YuukixBerry]

After copying and pasting the right eye when I go to physics settings the right eye don’t blink by it self what should I do?

[@skye4082]

For some reason, idk if they’re too small of what, but the highlights and side eye bit (bottom part of upper lid) will not import into Live2d no matter how hard I try and I cannot figure out why. I’m going to have to go without those, I think

[@mewmewmwah]

*squish* and *squashhh* weeeeee love the way you say that i really like the tutorials ayfhgwailfhlajwhf

[@aceamber8195]

at the copy and paste part my right iris is slightly delayed, i made sure to follow the exact steps but somehow something still went wrong (this happend on two different models i used this tutorial on)

[@AzraelSpace]

when i reflect the eyes they look left and right on the same direction but when one sees up the other eye sees down 😭😭IDK WHAT TO DO

[@cutelycanthropy]

im loving this so far is allready been super helpful and I don't know if anyone asked this yet but if by chance do you know how to rig a coin flip for a vtuber? i cant seem to find any videos and iv seen your animations their so smooth!

[@whatIIIIIII]

when i change the eye l physics to the eye r phhysics, they dont show up. anyone know how to fix this? edit: hey, turns out i wasnt following the tutorial quite correctly! all i needed to do was stop panicking. thank you so much for this tutorial!

[@shirodeski4631]

Can you do a tutorial in eye rigging where both eyes are different colors?

[@batsfine]

I'm having a problem with the weight painting. The brow's shadow is turquoise, not red when it's time to paint. The brow ends up fixed in place. I'm not sure what I did wrong.

[@MerelyWufeii]

In your case it’s inversed, just directly apply glue until the color is the brow’s color, instead of shift+glue!

[@cinnmonbun364]

Tysm so much for these videos! This is my first attempt at rigging a model so your content is perfect for me to get started. Question: While trying to copy and reflect my eye, the eye would reflect but not across the face. It would just flip horizontally on top of the previous eye. Any way of fixing this? Again thanks for the content, your art is amazing ❤

[@MerelyWufeii]

🫶🫶 A deformer takes the axis of reflection from its parent deformer, so likely you have another deformer on top of what you're trying to reflect!

[@cinnmonbun364]

@@MerelyWufeii Thank you!

[@fluffy1263]

that Smooth gets me everytime xd

[@0oppiii]

excuse me, i forgot to seperate the two eyes ( eyeball, iris, eyelashes ect) before rigging, does someone knows how to do it on live2D ? (sorry for my bad english, i'm french)

[@carlwilliams7333]

Lol. I had to undo the eye physics. I did NOT like having Jello eyes.

[@d4n1elturtle]

i have the problem that my eye l when its shocked it does the same to my eye r.. no idea where i went wrong

[@oddstars4472]

hello, you props wont see this but if anyone knows how to solve the corners being blank but the up and top having the keys you've changed and wont synthesise correctly , its props a problem I did?

[@0oppiii]

helpp i can't ctrl V my lip on the lip skin to glue it, it ask for pro version

[@KURAYMUSIC]

okay but, what do i do if i dont want to animate the eyes closing? i have 3 different eye shapes for open close and semi closed, how do i animate like that?

[@MerelyWufeii]

If I’m understanding correctly, you might need to look into live2d framing by frame! Essentially give the 3 eye shapes each 3 key points to eye close, and adjust their draw order so that the correct layer appears on top for a frame by frame effect

[@KURAYMUSIC]

@@MerelyWufeii my head is exploding rn ahshshss

[@KURAYMUSIC]

@@MerelyWufeii is there any chance you can help me in private? im not understanding how all of this works properly ahshshs

[@eggleg9655]

so after I change my EyeR Open Param it stops blinking in sync with the original eye

[@MerelyWufeii]

double check if you set the correct ‘settings for eye blinking and lip-sync’ at 2:55

[@kuangjuitsou1699]

The Opacity parameter is grey-out and can not be changed.

[@kuangjuitsou1699]

Ver 4.2 blendshape does not support Opacity

[@aamellow_5819]

HI! i got right up to 14:26 but when i separated the eye opens to each eye, all of a sudden in my physic settings the duplicated eye would not blink with it, but the pupil jiggle physics would happen at the same time, i have no idea what im doing wrong

[@TehKamoii]

If you're still struggling, go to 3:02 and make sure you also have those enabled, I was having the same issue and saw a comment on it.

[@summernielson7463]

I had the same exact problem. If your physics are still blinking with the wrong eye - look at 14:01 and make sure that your effectiveness is the opposite on each eye. That controls which one it's mapping to.

[@CelesteriaAmne]

I am having an issue with my Physics parameters not copying over to my asym highlight despite putting it in the Iris Phys Deformer T^T

[@CelesteriaAmne]

I fixed it!!!

[@MiyaMam948]

@@CelesteriaAmne how

[@anonykitsune]

part 4 took me the longest to finish so far (stares at L_eyebrow_shadow) i made mistakes during manual mesh, thanks to my bff (chatgpt) i was able to finish it 😭💙

[@silverly_]

does anyone have any tips if the glue colors are inverted? I can't get the state of the brow shadow to change...

[@silverly_]

found out they don't have to match the video, as long as the colors are opposites (brow is red, shadow is turquoise *OR* brow is turquoise/shadow is red) it works as intended! I know she responded to another commenter having the same problem, but i couldn't understand her explanation Q_Q

[@skye4082]

When I try to create the warp deformed “iris p” it says “Please create an object with the same parent deformed selected.” How do I fix this?

[@skye4082]

I’m going to try and just apply the warp deformer on “iris closed” like you showed to do for “iris roll” and see if that works.

[@MerelyWufeii]

Make sure your selected items are of the same deformer hierarchy! It has been a common problem from past vids, and I have copy pasted a more detailed explanation at the pin comment if you need 🫡

[@thearcanamodernau8130]

3:08 physics settings

[@girlfarter444]

hii!! your tutorials have been a bunch of help so far, but im a little stuck with trying to rig two different eye colors with two different eyelash colors too qwq.. my left eye is completely rigged already!! thank u for these tutorials btw!! they help me learn sm!!

[@MerelyWufeii]

You could refer to the asymmetrical highlight at 10:56 which was an example for any other asymmetrical eye parts! However you would need to re-rig the eyelash physics after putting the asymmetrical eyelash into the copied eye though.

[@girlfarter444]

@@MerelyWufeii thank u sm for your response!!!

[@Craios-mr1fp]

12:10 me

[@jueunyu6551]

if you have an asymmetrical highlight of the eye, and do as you instructed in the video, then it will not have the same keyframes (for physics) as the other highlight. If I try to duplicate the highlight with physics keyframes and drag it over to the other side of the face then it only transforms one keyframe....do you know of any easier way to get the same keyframes of asymmetrical parts (pls help me I beg of you I'm losing my mind ;-;)?

[@MerelyWufeii]

You can refer to how I modified the eye white so that the modification applies to all keyforms attached: 12:06 , so just make a temporary deformer for the highlight and drag that deformer! Don’t forget to put the layer in it’s according iris deformers afterwards too

[@jueunyu6551]

asdfghj#@$! you're a genius! It's fixed and my sanity is somewhat maintained. Thank youuuuu! ╰(▔∀▔)╯@@MerelyWufeii

[@DiamondRedFox]

im rigging sprite art from a pre-existing game for the silliness of it (that took like 7 hours) and seeing this bastard just kind of exist in the "play" option in physics is killing me

[@BiggestMommas]

the cutest yippie i ever herd 7:12💕💕

[@Riley3999]

For some reason eye smile didn't reflect to the left eye for me everything else went fine just not smile

[@LeaStrife]

Whenever I reflect the eye it goes to the other side of the face and is the right direction, but it's tilted? I don't know how to fix it and it won't let me manually rotate for some reason, anyone have any fixes