4 Million Roman Soldiers VS 4 Million Spartan Soldiers! - Ultimate Epic Battle Simulator 2 UEBS 2

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[@Kenjames10]

It is crazy to think that there are 2+ million more soldiers on that field than my country Finland has population...

[@sidneyvandykeii3169]

@Ville Jokela. Let's see 10,000 modern Finnish soldiers vs 1 million Spartans or Romans.

[@erikdayne5429]

Don’t worry Finland, we will protect you. Love, America

[@RMFCfan137]

331 million -America

[@official_pol2198]

@@RMFCfan137 Even more crazy to think the USSR lost 20 million soldiers during WW2. This really puts it into perspective.

[@its.lyss_]

My country America has 100 million

[@brilliantgamestudios]

Hey Daley! Just letting you know we added some new content last night to UEBS2. We added 3 new units(2 new heroes and a giant troll), as well as the infamous Unit Customizer is now open, check it out!

[@DaleyTactics]

Awesome thanks for letting me know :D

[@yigaboii2254]

Unit creator? Like in tabs?

[@brilliantgamestudios]

@@yigaboii2254 We have never played TABS here. UEBS1 has a unit creator and it's the new version for the sequel.

[@roguenugget242]

@@yigaboii2254 it’s more or less kind of like that but you can make whatever almost like modding. Also I would love some more units per era I know you guys are already trying your hardest and this game is crazy but yeah I would love some American soldiers and German soldiers, as well as like Soviet soldiers so yeah that would be very cool

[@legobatman5067]

Will UEBS2 have a custom workshop like the first game?

[@ejt2287]

Daley's battles from now on are just gonna be in the millions

[@ThomasEM]

Hey Daley, I believe I saw the developers say in another video that there is a bug with large armies right now that cause them to not run well. You want to have the groups at about 1 million max each. If you split up each army into four groups of 1 million each, it should help with the frame rate according to what I've heard.

[@brilliantgamestudios]

You're close. Having 8 armies with an even amount is the most ideal for performance. This will likely be handled internally in a later update, so eventually the user won't need to worry about this.

[@gamerstheater1187]

can't expect this to end well

[@thegadflygang5381]

Glad I discovered your channel, a ton of fun. That said Iron age Spartans, whom i love, would have been throttled by Roman age Repubic\Empire forces. Better weapons, armor and shields. More advanced tactics as the Spartans fought small scale wars while the Romans led tens of thousands. Romans had siege and artillery weapons along with cavalry, the Spartans only had foot soldiers and a few Perioeci sling men So much more. A fairly weak Roman army without professional soldiers early on defeated the Aechean League and Sparta at Gythium

[@gaiusmarius4209]

Yep, Spartans were fantastic individual warriors, while the Romans made ARMIES. Formations, combined arms, and siege craft were their fortes

[@thegadflygang5381]

@@gaiusmarius4209 Indeed although Spartans, and Greeks/Macedonians fighting was also contingent upon fighting as a group, ie the Phalanx. But I think what you are saying is on a larger scale beyond a few hundred guys. Romans were the first real masters of being able to work countless unit types and moving pieces synchronized together like a well oiled machine

[@88006]

Also there was about 400 to 500 years difference between when Sparta and Rome were at their respected peaks

[@thegadflygang5381]

@@88006 Indeed, Iron Age vs Roman Age. The only question is when was Romes "peak" but even if we go to the very beginning of the Empire with Augustus and Germanicus, that is about 500 years from the Peleponessian War when arguably Sparta was at their most powerful. For reference if modern military forces with high powered rifles, jets, tanks etc fought the Spanish or English from 500 years ago they would be using pikes, swords and primitive lit fused cannons and Arquebus.

[@KingTotz]

@@thegadflygang5381 Since technology is speeding up it would be more like a modern army vs WW1 or WW2 army. The Romans still used swords, spears, shields and armor as the Spartans did, albeit more advanced and varied.

[@gamerstheater1187]

Daley idea! One Side: 10k Redcoats backing up 50k calvery with 2000 catapults Other Side: 50k knights with 10k zombies and 15k archers

[@uruuphiil8335]

Maybe 250k spartans vs. 1,000,000 romans next time, or 1M Spartans vs. 4M Romans

[@uruuphiil8335]

it was.. very cool tho

[@ryancollins8767]

Tune in everyday to see a massive UEBS 2 battle with daley being extremely excited. Keep up the good work!

[@JustinMatsumoto]

The Spartans had a massive advantage because when on the middle I noticed they used spears that have more range to damage the Roman’s and the Roman’s only had short swords

[@dailydoseofcomments]

Today is my birthday and im celebrating it by watching some of my favorite youtubers! Can't wait to watch the new vid!

[@bobbywise2313]

I don't know much about the Spartans but the Roman soldiers were a volunteer unit that paid its soldiers better than civilian jobs. For the most part they were a proud group and discipline was very high. They marched many miles ever day caring more weight than modern units. They would build build a defensive parameter and every night. These guys were tough as it gets. But it was the discipline and tactics that made them such a dominant force. Of course not all the Roman Generals were equal in battle.

[@ethanluttrell]

Spartans were literally trained for war starting at 7 years old

[@adolphbismark4331]

Roman legionnaires were the best soldiers of the ancient time. Unstoppable war machine. Spartans are mostly overrated and lost battles to Persians, Athenians, Macedonians and ultimately Romans easily defeated them in 170 BC. So this battle is crap.

[@stathispap8291]

The only reason they lost some wars and power was because Sparta was running out of real Spartans​ and many outsiders become "spartan" citizens @adolphbismark4331

[@stathispap8291]

Sparta was a warrior state ,that was life there, discipline and blood was normal until you die. Romans were just wanna be soldiers for money as you said

[@diligentpotato9045]

9:57 Ah yes, a body of piles.

[@kristofevarsson6903]

I really wish the Romans and Spartans were more closely matched in terms of ability, but really the bias falls a little bit on the Spartan side which is then amplified with numbers. The Spartans run faster than the Romans, their shields are stronger, their attacks do more damage, and they have farther reach than the Romans. I think the reason why this bothers me so much is that this game is just simulating a war of individuals in army numbers. Historically a Greek hoplite could and did outclass a Roman legionary, but it's the Roman manipular legion that was superior to the Greek phalanx that was the deciding factor, and why Rome won out in Greece historically.

[@edwardhardwick2180]

I'm going to have to call shennigans on your claim that that Greek hoplites were individually superior to Roman legionaries. Greek hoplites were a citzen milita called up when needed and then disbanded afterwards. They did not receive military training as mentioned by Xenophon, a very experienced Greek mercenary and historian. Plus the *aspis,* the hoplite shield was a bad shield for individual fighting. Great for formation fighting, but terrible for a one-on-one. A Roman legionary on the other hand was a professional soldier with equipment and training provided by the state. As a professional soldier he didn't have to split his time between his trade and his role as a soldier meaning the average legionary was more disciplined and experienced than his hoplite counterpart. Finally the legionary had ranged options and a shield better suited to one on one fighting. (The *scutum* had a single central vertical grip similar to later norse/saxon round shields, which made it easier to defend with.) Rome had quite possibly the best army in the ancient world for a damn good reason.

[@robertplunkettschesslab]

The Spartans were professional soilders basically trained from birth. Nothing came close in the ancient world not even the romans. The romans real advantage would have been numbers. Sparta was just one city state and the rest of Greece didn't field professional armies. If the forces were equal I'd always give it to the Spartans. I highly doubt that the forces would ever be equal but on a soilder to soilder basis the Spartans were just better and probably also on a unit to unit basis. Training from the time you are 7 years old to do just one thing and only one thing has to give you an advantage. LOL.

[@kristofevarsson6903]

@@edwardhardwick2180 you're nit-picking because I went from saying "Spartan hoplite" to "Greek hoplite" but it wasn't just the Spartans - they're simply the best example of a more Peloponnesian phenomenon. The Hellenes and the northern Dorians differed from the southern Dorians in the Peloponnese by using irregular citizen-soldiers as their armed forces, while the Peloponnesian city-states had some form of regular force consistently active - whether or not they were Spartan, their allies, or their enemies at that immediate moment.

[@Initium1000]

Count yourself lucky. I'm Persian and look how they rate our armies smh. It's a bit perturbing.

[@kristofevarsson6903]

@@Initium1000 Operation Human Wave is usually a success. And you guys taught the Russians something so that bears mentioning. Two thumbs up mate, sorry pop culture is so mean to y'all.

[@jacobroberson8450]

You should do some more Spartan simulations. Make 100,000 Spartans on defense and 300 elite Spartans on attack And just go ham on some Persians. I enjoy when the Spartans defend inner city locations.

[@themechanic8643]

Give Thanks Men! To Leonidas, and the Brave 300! TO VICTORY!!!

[@rayengstrom1905]

I assumed the Romans armor would come into play and give them the advantage.

[@dandy-insanity2154]

Hey Daley. I was just wondering about if it would be possible to add a bit more diversity to the armies like different types of cavalry/infantry such as spearmen, swordsmen and bowmen? I would love to see a battle of two gigantic armies and how the AI would behave on such a large scale having more assets (Hopefully without melting your PC). Love your videos Daley, your commentary is astounding!

[@timothyissler3815]

One thing I dislike with UEBS is that there aren't really any formations or tactics at play. It's just line up and charge. It'd be cool if you could get the Spartans to charge and fight in proper phalanx formations, or the Romans in their "checkerboard formation". This could really change the battle, because the checkerboard formation gave Rome greater manoeuvrability than the phalanx, which helped them conquer Greece in like the 200s BC or so.

[@fieldfighter6952]

In UEBS2 the have added a new rts factor so you can create your own formations

[@brilliantgamestudios]

@@fieldfighter6952 You're correct. To add that that, when ordering units they do sorta attempt to create a line formation on the destination of their order, we have more work to do on this though. Watch the video we did on RTS mode, there is more info.

[@johncarlvaldezjc]

can you make 2m Spartan's vs 4m roman and 2m romn defending

[@zabrakbricks7320]

Crazy to think Daley's just casually just running a simulation with almost twice the population of my country in it lol :P

[@tallbrosasquatch1384]

Bruh this is a massacre.

[@arturogranados1133]

okay, but the Roman soldiers aren't using the formations that made them so dominate in real life conquest. Of they actually coordinated their spears and shields as they were known for the Spartans would have not chance.

[@ransomedavis2208]

both sides were extremely well trained. for me i am a fan of both armies but the spartens has to be my favourite. i love this stuff you guys put together. great stuff.

[@johnscott6083]

Four Million dudes all shouting, "This is SPARTA!!!"

[@NJHamilton30]

This was pretty spectacular! What if we tried the same numbers, but Centurians and Footmen? And instead of two gigantic mobs, the armies were broken up into smaller tactical units? Like 500K for the Romans and 250K for the Footmen?

[@littleranger7854]

Daily has lost it we gave him to much power he’s made 8million people fight without choose he is a Sith Lord

[@warriors1313]

I can't believe you thought this could be anything but a Spartan domination

[@rooni7615]

the fact that this man is barely lagging means is computer is an absolute BEAST

[@pidevildog31]

You should do king of the hill on that map. Start each massive army off the mountain and make them all try to climb to the top of the mountain.

[@kennenjocson9318]

i love your vids and your content

[@paulchapin6877]

I find multiple teams/armies/types of combatants much more interesting as the battle can ebb and flow depending on who is actually fighting who at any moment. With one on one after a minute or two who’s going to win is obvious.

[@kuerbisformel_388]

Funny because after watching the romans vs us army and after spartans vs persians i was like hmm why not

[@couchtomato3789]

Ngl, I totally want to see a Persian Roman coalition against the proud Spartans!

[@riseandshine7174]

5:21 the traveler has descend upon the spartans

[@Ellerion2]

8:34 - my prediction based on what i saw so far: there is a vood chance that Spartans will win. Unit comparison: roman shields cover more of the body and they have iron armor, their strength. Spartans have heavy round bronze shields that don't quite cover as much but they are equipped with spears, which outrange the roman gladius swords (spartan strength). I think the spear is the tie-breaker though romans should be able to hit Spartans in the unprotected parts of bodies while Spartans are on the high ground. I don't know if Spartans are equipped with bronze armors like historically but i guess that detail can be shared by the youtuber making the video

[@cristsan4171]

The last time Rome besieged Sparta, the Spartans didn't stood much of a chance. Except for the Italian. They are why Rome left. They don't count.

[@jcaaata7338]

I think and want the spartans to win This is the first of ur videos I've seen, this is really way cooler than I initially thought it could be

[@jezzaminepardilla8942]

My god the mountain is filled blood these are the 4 million

[@patrickforget5088]

Now you need to do the Spartans versus the Persians that is pretty much a equal battle

[@snaplordmeep6748]

I want the Roman’s to win but I think the Spartans will win. Can’t wait For the next ultimate epic battle simulator episode

[@damionzody8307]

Do a final stand on that mountain top, like have someone defend a bunch of the pathways up and see if they can hold it

[@gogameing5657]

This must be taking a very big toll on your computer?

[@Pablo668]

I think this would make my PC run away screaming.

[@Tally-MMall]

If you combine your PC with combining another PC that is combined to another PC, it should be better to combine Another PC which is combined to another PC that is combined to another PC, so you would get something at least.

[@madogg8844]

Great video keep up the good work

[@billywilliams4991]

Bro the games have to put each armies tactics in the battles for it to give close to real life results

[@kuerbisformel_388]

Maybe 300,000 romans vs 4million persians

[@jeremiahzamis8656]

Spartans!

[@supthisisme5692]

daley: nice:) PC: help

[@lobsterking1451]

That field has the population of NYC just clashing

[@tashap5105]

For sparta from the 300 movie

[@multipotentialite666]

hi

[@sasbub6842]

Spartans OP. Calling their win.

[@ViewtifulJosh388]

I can't wait!!! I'ma go back to play UEBS while I wait. :D

[@masterxiong7368]

Spears are a difference maker.

[@kenfox22]

Go Spartans. Can't stand what Rome stood for. The shield 🛡️ is also a weapon

[@sharkstorm8vr841]

What it you used that mountain as a defensive position like playing king of the hill

[@travissimpson3354]

Hey daily tactics when are you going to do a Lego Star Wars clone army video for 2022?

[@lancebell1627]

I'm really loving uebs2 keep up the good work Daley

[@kristofer1123]

Would have loved to see the flanking maneuver completed with the time lapse at the end rather than the middle of the field. But still really enjoy the videos

[@lothsper]

As far as I know the Spartans should be just a tad bit stronger with the attack and the armor and they have range

[@stevenreyngold1166]

That's like 2 million tier 1 operators vs. 2 million regular army. The Spartans were born warriors, bread to be the best, and were in fact that. The Romans may have been inspired by the Greeks in many ways, but the motivation and training of the troops wasn't nearly to the same level.

[@springfield03sniper]

This would be like 2 million WW2 SAS vs 2 million current Marines. The Spartans and Greeks in general did not do well against the Romans.

[@adolphbismark4331]

Roman legionnaires were the best soldiers of the ancient time. Unstoppable war machine. Spartans are mostly overrated and lost battles to Persians, Athenians, Macedonians and ultimately Romans easily defeated them in 170 BC. So this battle is crap. Also Spartans might have thought to have been born warriors but they were not. Roman war machine and legions were a pure roman invention.

[@stevenreyngold1166]

@@adolphbismark4331 That quite a screen name you got there Adolph. Anyway, you were not there, you did not see, and the Romans were fine soldiers but they won due to numbers and not because they were better or worse than the Spartans. The Romans adopted the Spartan phalanx and even kept the Greek Gods for themselves. Next you'll be telling me how unstoppable the Bismark was.

[@justanormalcat5192]

@@stevenreyngold1166 I’m pretty sure most spartan losses were due to numbers and not poorly trained soldiers

[@dominicgagliardo2377]

Not bad tactic from the Roman

[@nuwankodagoda5974]

Lets goo spartans

[@razzledazzle2388]

How the hell is your PC aren't destroyed

[@williamfisher233]

Spartans always win in these games. But I'll watch once more to see.

[@williamfisher233]

Yep. These programs love the movie 300. Naked men are unbeatable. Even fighting armored soldiers. Yes the spartans were quicker and lighter for that reason, but they would not have won this battle.

[@nickk6501]

Re-do the spartan vs persian fight. This time make the map a little flatter. The water killed 50k Spartans in that other battle. That amount might've won them the battle. Also have them on free roam

[@ihatehiphopcultureandsosho6317]

I wasn't expecting siege weapons or anything, but it would be nice if the computer took into account the battle formations and tactics of both respective armies, instead of just having them slam into each other like Barbarians 😆.

[@garfablobble]

what GPU do you have and what settings are you running? I have a 2080ti and running the game on medium causes my game to freeze before i even enter the millions of soldiers. Does map and placement affect it as well? (in cities/buildings vs open fields).

[@dominicgagliardo2377]

Like the 300 hundred movie

[@jacobheap082]

Imagine A mountain defense though....

[@Toadyru]

spear & shield vs short sword & shield with soldiers on top of each other (fighting in limited fighting space)...... Spear wins?

[@g-rex416]

Somebody else probably commented this before me but it’s the Trojan war

[@jacobnewby5391]

Where do I got to buy and download UEBS 2 I have number 1 but want a trusted download source

[@natercrash4140]

Great video as always Daley. I think you ran the time laps too long. I wanna actually liked more of the updates instead of that 1 angle

[@caiuspostumiusturrinus1024]

IRL Rome would have bested the Spartans with minimal loses. They would never be stupid enough face a phalanx head on...

[@lancebell1627]

Roman empire vs Sparta to hard to decide. THIS IS SPARTA

[@apanapandottir205]

The Romans should have at least on spear each.

[@adamschrader328]

Born of winter.

[@LeSamuelMan]

how do you have uebs2 already

[@alexforce9]

Ok, what kind of rig do you have so this could even run? Like some NASA shit?

[@Art-Alcala]

This man is growing yesterday he had 430k subs now he has 3 thousand more

[@S3018146]

In real life the Romans had better discipline, tactics, gear and combat record. The Spartans were hardcore but they had nothing on the Roman legions.

[@scpsputnik9730]

Debatable , romans were further down the timeline Spartans were extremely disciplined and had a special diet which made them powerful, true the romans had better equipment but further down the timeliness I guarantee Spartans would crush them , a close battle but a spartan victory

[@adolphbismark4331]

Roman legionnaires were the best soldiers of the ancient time. Unstoppable war machine. Spartans are mostly overrated and lost battles to Persians, Athenians, Macedonians and ultimately Romans easily defeated them in 170 BC. So this battle is crap.

[@adolphbismark4331]

Spartans were a failure miltary wise and never managed to be a big power. You are just imagining too much

[@justanormalcat5192]

@@adolphbismark4331 it was mainly due to not having massive armies. Their military was ver well trained but they didn’t have tens of thousands of soldiers like most armies.

[@america1st907]

Can you do a massive tank battle?

[@Gman-ee5os]

Thanks for listening to my comment

[@Gman-ee5os]

I knew Sparta would win easy I love Sparta and Roman but because of Spartans will I like them

[@troytownsend101]

How are you able to have so many units without any lag?!?!

[@AwesomeWiseepaul]

the guys in the back🗿

[@jazzydino3159]

Ad giants ore bear to a 1 million vs 1 million

[@elyssapaull]

Spartans FOR SPARTA

[@freak_weirdest9543]

I want the Roman’s to win but I know the Spartans will win

[@glenntownsend7637]

I want the spartans to win

[@charlesfallang375]

Go Sparta!!!

[@VigilantOoga]

THIS IS SPARTA!!!

[@NikoHL]

Spartans would never defeat Roman Legions.

[@NotLinn_LMAO]

The blood sea

[@Bootsharmonica]

What is this program and where can I buy it!!?

[@yumi1384]

Wish Rome total war 2 or Future Rome total war 3 can handle this many unit like numbers ikr.

[@turtlemaster2.025]

I'd like the Spartans to win and think they will win but honestly they're a pretty good match ngl it's hard to tell

[@Tally-MMall]

Aren't those Athenians?

[@usaiakilaiverata5945]

Spartan. 🤜🏾

[@jazzydino3159]

Nice vid

[@braidenreyes2804]

Spartans are going to win⚔️🏛🏛💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻