4 Steps To Creating Great Math Rock Tone With Amp Sims

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

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[@MionMikan]

Thank you man! as someone who is constantly battling their computer and software to find a good math rock tone, this helped out so much. I live in south korea too! It's great to see someone so passionate about being an ambassador for math rock to this generally math rock devoid country!

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

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[@elliesarchive7]

Your videos are always so good! The way you talk and explain things is very calming and clear, I always leave your channel feeling inspired and like I want to try new things.

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Thank you so much! Don't know how motivating that is to hear! Thanks

[@Natenie]

10:55 onwards was straight up magical

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

haha thanks

[@broncoxy]

super cool video, thanks for going so in-depth with it! very helpful for me to get my tones up there ^^ one small note, from someone who has been using NDSP for a while: when you click the little button on the bottom to the left of the cabs, you 'unchain' them and you can basically use all three of those cabs with whatever amp you choose~

[@aquieteveningmusic]

Wait wait wait... I think I've been using amp sims wrong this whole time! I never knew about the high z thing. I just tried it out and it sounds sooooo much better. Why have I never heard anyone talk about this before?

[@ラウこ]

Bruh , literally every audio interface tells u to press the instrument button when you’re recording an instrument di

[@ErebosGR]

Most audio interfaces nowadays are hi-Z by default, or have 1 hi-Z instrument input and 1 mic input and don't have switchable impedances.

[@GrizzzlyPanda]

Also a just as important tip for these, especially Neural DSP, turn down the input lvl on the plugin anywhere from 5-15db and magically your heavy crunch turns into a buttery clean

[@JoseLuRu]

Glad to see a review by you of this archetype

[@ScottWDrums]

Great video! I personally like the tone king neural dsp plugin for getting those slightly distorted tones but I may have to try this one out

[@krooked-dg9vv]

Love your videos man, they've helped me so much!!!

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

excellent! stoked to hear that they help! thanks

[@lewischerry3552]

As someone who owns nothing but an orange micro dark and Guitar Rig 6 this is the exactly the kind of video I wanted to see

[@peterschmitz1754]

what riff was that at 7:30?

[@Haraamcore13]

It's the main riff from steves song Incandescent.

[@dimazramadhanp6695]

I do really love your tone! Please create it using plini and cory wong archetypes too!

[@riverstone5994]

Would love to hear your thoughts on all the different types of recording you’ve done. What was good and bad about each. If you have a preference after trying them all etc. please

[@scarv7544]

I run my pedalboard into my pc, typically running a twin rev in amplitube. A piece of advice id have to give is to help with fizz. Youll realise that with drive there can be a lot of fizz in your sound, making your sound really muddy. A lot of this fizz (particularly in anplitube, i havent tried too many sims) is in the lows and highs, so by adding a low pass and high pass filter you can notice an immediate improvement in tone and clarity. You can also isolate particularly annoying frequencies and notch these out, but i havent really tried that much

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

For sure! Thanks. This plugin has an EQ, perhaps I'll try that too.

[@eyeriiis]

Dude you are a sick guitarist!

[@endarior]

Light overdrive into fender style amp with a telecaster on the middle pickup should be called "The Steve". Math rock guitarists world wide could say 'gimme The Steve'

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

😂

[@rileyhef]

Great vid! It's so nice to watch it slowly and hear each step explained. How do you run it into the DAW, though? Do you adjust gain, duplicate tracks, pan, etc? And do you EQ in post once you've recorded your tracks? I'd love to see your entire process broken down!

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Hello! I didn't run it through a DAW in this video. I was using the standalone plugin and running that into OBS so what you heard was the direct output of the plugin. If I was to run this into a DAW then I'd go through all the usual process as I would recording any guitar: 1st get a sound I like 2nd record it 3rd edit it in post to fix the mix of the track

[@rileyhef]

@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock would love to see your process in a livestreams or something, I spend way too much time tuning things and second guessing myself! Anyways, you're the greatest and your production quality has been amazing this year. Keep it up!

[@Trauzzinator]

Best time for Incandescent!!!

[@yvmuw2]

Hey Steve! I got a neural dsp nolly and plini canI make that one with this?

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

sure! if you mean follow the same steps, then I don't see why not. You’ll just have to adjust to taste 🙌

[@yvmuw2]

@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock thank you so much 🥹🥹

[@Haraamcore13]

An important thing with plugins is to set the input level correctly on the interface. There was a misconception going around that you should set your INPUT gain to zero on the interface. DO NOT DO THIS. It will ruin your signal to noise ratio. Instead set the gain just below clipping in the interface and use a gain/clipper plugin (or the input level in the plugin) to bring the gain down. (Usually 8-12db reduction in my experience.) This gives the plugin the correct input gain and maximises signal to noise.

[@chris5588]

Thanks for this! Gonna try the sim. Can't find the link to the presets, tho...

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

That's because I totally forgot to put it in there! Apologies. I'll get that sorted right away

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

drive.google.com/file/d/1C-wuquuttNNWM8falq0b381rXUH6Qwsh/view?usp=sharing here you go! apologies again

[@stargazer1090]

hey steve! is it possible to purchase your ebook outside of US? (asia to be specific)

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Hello! For sure. It's a digital product so all you need is an accepted method of payment. Thanks!

[@stargazer1090]

@@LetsTalkAboutMathRock hell yeah, ill come back around once i get an album up in a few years 😂

[@roycwu]

Do you think i could get a math rock tone with an ibanez rg421? I've heard its a very versatile guitar

[@ZachA-T]

What song is getting played at 8:55

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Hello! It's one of my own: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnmai3WCeN1jfdE

[@Gummmibaer]

What I noticed is that no matter how good an Amp Sim sounds, the problem is me having to sit in front of a screen which is really killing my creativity and 1,000 things distracting me. My best ideas came when walking around my flat with my tele on a strap without any amplification at all (with my semi-hollow it sounded somewhat okay). And I tried many amp sim plugins and even costly solutions like Strymon Iridium. Still they all didnt really have convincing crunch tones. And to even get a tone I was somewhat pleased I had to try so many IRs and settings that I just lost fun playing my guitar at home. What I will try in the future will be mini amps for home use. I hope theyll sound good but Im sooo looking forward to forgetting about booting up my laptop, connecting my interface, all these cables and buttons. Just plug and play is the way for me I guess.

[@femiiir]

hey Steve I use MainStage and it works wonders...I am paraplegic so pedals are not so much of an option

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

I'll check that out. Thanks

[@femiiir]

please when you do make a video about it @@LetsTalkAboutMathRock

[@mohitrahaman]

Ayo Steve NeuralDSP just released Morgan AC-20, any plans demoing that? This is just your kind of stuff!

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

hello! I'll be downloading the trial to have a tinker with it soon. thanks for the heads up

[@mohitrahaman]

@@LetsTalkAboutMathRockperfect! can't wait for the surprises :D all the best 🖖

[@NoNo-py2mh]

What daw are you using

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

Abelton 👍

[@ErebosGR]

2:35 That's not what the Input control is for. Your line level should be controlled through the Gain control on your audio interface. The Input control on the amp sim is to simulate your pickup output and therefore how hot is the guitar signal hitting the preamp. Otherwise, the amp sim doesn't know whether you're playing low or high-output pickups. In your case, you should back it off a little. That's why your guitar sounded "gainy" and "boxy" from the start.

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

I took that as most people would know to set the level going into the plugin to be not too hot by checking the input signal on the audio interface, but yeah, probably should of included that little explainer 👍

[@maeve3427]

Any audio interfaces u recommend?

[@HansyPants184]

Pretty well any interface has gotten good enough to play into these days. I use a focusrite Scarlett but know people who run Motu, Behringer, and arturia that all get good results as well. It's mostly just about the amount of inputs and outputs you personally need, having it set up correctly, and having a computer that has specs good enough to run the amp sim.

[@ErebosGR]

The Focusrite Scarlett models are outspecced and outperformed by newer similarly-priced models, like the Arturia MiniFuse 1, the Native Intruments Komplete Audio 1, and Audient iD4 MKII.

[@maeve3427]

@@HansyPants184 thanks, im really new to all this stuff so this helps alot

[@gotoastal]

Guitarix is a good option for those that don’t like proprietary, closed-source, nonfree software.

[@ErebosGR]

There are plenty of free amp sims that sound just as good as any outrageously-priced Neural DSP Archetype. What you're paying for is the presets.

[@kantina4765]

I'd go as far as go as far as to say the majority of them are better. Plenty of youtubers paid to advertise them get great sounds but in my hands they just sound like arse.ignite emissary does everything I've ever needed (despite it being a metal amp and me never playing metal.

[@Elytrii]

*cries in poor and shreddage vst*

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