4 Ways to Defeat Starless Hua with ONLY Elemental Valks.

[@KeenanHI]

Nice! Didn't know Luna does so well here, i guess i should try and see what score i can squeeze out of her, good to know. Bleed damage isn't indirect in case of modern bleed valks tho, it is affected by buffs and weathers, debuffs too probably, like less Lightning in case of Luna or less Physical in case of Griseo and Susannah.

[@amadeusrolux0488]

Glad you correct this one. Under normal circumstances, the bleed dmg is separated from other type of dmg so it's why unaffected by enemy debuffs and type counter multiplier and etc etc. In Luna's kit description, Luna's lightning damage from ult and special weapon skills is considered bleed damage, so minus lightning weather will affect her overall output too? Hmmm. In this case, totally independent indirect dmg like HP loss is the only one unaffected by anything?

[@amadeusrolux0488]

Oh, I remember strange encounters when using Luna. Apparently, her damage is not amplified much by HoTr's ult (gives ult breach), but missing Bigseo's ult severely reduces more damage than HoTr ult's do. This consistently happened throughout my mald of the same boss (I think an SD boss, Epernay or something). I never really notice again the damage output differences this way after this occurence, but this really is the reason I think Luna's bleed damage is a massive weapon against SD bosses, tho it could be Bigseo's adaptive damage helping as well...

[@carlrohr6310]

@@amadeusrolux0488 To clear it up somewhat bleed damage counts as neither ranged nor melee and can't crit, but the damage from the characters abilities that is counted as bleed damage is still a form of direct damage and so is being affected by Physical Breach, Impair etc. or in LV's case Elemental Breach etc., the DoT Bleed effect and DoT Ignite effect should still be counted as indirect damage being not tied to a character move directly but it should still be affected by phys resistance etc. will check that with ignite on kallen next week, already used my tickets for this one

[@amadeusrolux0488]

@@carlrohr6310 ... im more confused :"D mechanics discussions in HI3 only get worse the more time passes huh :") thanks for the explanation however, this clears up to some extent indeed!

[@tsukimiya2059]

The sp regen is absolutely insane.

[@amadeusrolux0488]

Yep, helped by both supports and for Ely, SP regen stigma affix hahahah

[@aljaylerios8007]

Damn... I now regret for not pulling for HoTr

[@amadeusrolux0488]

For Luna's support, you can save for Eepy Teri next patch. She's a good Teri valks breach support, which means Luna is included xDD

[@mangohead8606]

Im saving for vita, not pulling anyone until I got her

[@amadeusrolux0488]

@@mangohead8606 good luck xD

[@chifffy]

I think there are better hof rotations, cn qteweapon skill>hotr ult transform>charged>finisher->cn ult with no qte->hofs

[@amadeusrolux0488]

This will cause CN's buff uptime to be reduced by the time HoF is on field. I personally would use this rotation only if I'm sure I don't need one full HoF sequence to finish off the boss, as it is indeed taking less time than switching supports thrice

[@P4fuu]

Welp, this kind proving that HI3rd isn't balance at all Also Jizou too you pretty much can bruteforce Jizou with elemental team even Jizou have "High Elemental Resist" stat And just Sayin' Sena Latern Thele can get around 650+ pts (Red Lotus) with mid invest (S0 char, T1 Weapon, fullset stigmata) in this "Starless" weather

[@amadeusrolux0488]

its more of the better mechanic, the less time taken to complete a rotation, and the longer the time stop each team has (except trio for some reason lol), the better their scores are, which Part 2 valks have heavy advantages against.

[@P4fuu]

Yea, absolute time stop is busting... But still, im salty with latest generation trio i mean they have 30% (45% if using stelar outburst) damage reduced, alongside with high elemental resist from the boss itself but still can get good score... (I thought new elemental trio get below 500 but im deadass wronk 🤣)

[@amadeusrolux0488]

@@P4fuu when even the supports can be standalone dps-es, we can't help do we........... :")

[@Meixelyz.]

nice Ama!

[@amadeusrolux0488]

thank youu Meixelyz xDD