$40,000 TILT ROTATOR or $4,000 Tilt Bucket? 4K

✔︎ Cheap ✔︎ 1/10 the cost of a Tiltrotator ✔︎better options

[@larion3296]

Here in Sweden most excavators over 5 tons (11 000 lbs) have used tilt rotators normally for the last 20 years. Only for really tough conditions, such as for handling large stone blocks, the tilt rotator is removed. Smaller machines might have tilt buckets. But the versatility in movement is just not even close, like comparing a reciprocating saw to a chain saw for cutting down trees. For skilled operators the tilt rotator makes grading, digging ditches and finishing off surfaces so much easier and faster, and with so much smoother result. For me it is puzzling that tilt rotators are not used more in other countries, in particular USA. Still, thank you for yet another interesting video, Stan.

[@Timmiboi740]

Tillomed åkerman hjulgrävare hade tiltrotator 😂

[@thequattro20v]

I like to compare a tiltrotator to a tiltbucket to a stiff bucket as your own wrist on your hand, you can play this game at home like making your self a cup of coffee and try to never turn your hand. Now how clumsy is that 😂 You can still do it, but with a cost.

[@brianpearl7504]

Not only that but can can change implements in seconds by yourself.

[@notsure6182]

the cost is insane for a tilt rotator over here.I am CDN, the bare Sany sy50 I bought was $95g, after Steelwrist it was $150g. I bought a sy16 for $43g. if I was an hourly hire company I can bill more for a second machine then I can for a tilty. contract work I can do far faster with the SW so it pays for itself.

[@AutisticDigger87]

We kind to these fossils in the west they are 25 years begins..

[@brutuszoey4817]

Tilt rotators vs tilt buckets are two things you shouldn't even be comparing, for the price factor, and the fact that rotators can make an excavator into a swiss army knife of a machine if you know how to use one, they can be used for grading, forestry, regular digging, pallet work, road work, the list is endless, a tilt buckets is more like a regular bucket than a rotator, and hell I don't even like them that much!

[@brettknighten1171]

They mentioned on the other machines besides the kubota you can flip the bucket around meaning you can still use it for those things just not as fast moving from use to use

[@brutuszoey4817]

@@brettknighten1171 still though it doesn't have the extra attacher so you can't use it for forestry or cutting roads, of have a grade beam, a broom, or the little pinchers

[@challe_challe3622]

@@brutuszoey4817I totally agree with you. This is almost like comparing a thumb to a grapple with rotation, to build the straightest woodpile.

[@theoneonlymonkeymanohyea6769]

@@brettknighten1171yea but you can swivel the bucket around 20 times faster and you can do way more with a rotator

[@Forestryman707]

I agree with this!!!

[@farmingwithmitchellmorgan7041]

Hey Stan. Over here in Australia we have a tilt hitch on our machines where you can tilt every attachment. They are a lot more versatile than a tilt bucket and less wait than a tilt rotator

[@MrSeadawg123]

you have a company name?

[@Drew_peaballs_128]

@@MrSeadawg123jaws, Aussie buckets they are all pretty similar and excellent

[@isaachill4725]

I'm 17 working as a laborer for a heavy equipment company. My boss told me recently that the majority of guys in our industry are aging out, and that there is a major need for young men to fill these positions

[@nickmulvey5818]

Tilt buckets are definitely great for a lot of applications but there’s still a lot of applications where the tilt rotator is superior to just a tilt bucket but it takes a skilled operator to run one well

[@jamesburba1995]

Your skill, and their knowledge, almost make that bucket a "must have" for anyone with rudimentary intelligence. A very nice product, and improvement for any small excavator, for a very reasonable price . Thank Stan !

[@MiniMachines1]

Tiltrotator winns anyday and i run both tiltbucket and tiltrotator for years. It's maybe 1/10 of the price but the tiltrotator does 20 times more effectively work.

[@sirwallygator565]

Tilt bucket is really good but if I was buying a new machine I would get a tilt mount and then every attachment you put on is a tilt bucket or tilt attachment. Plus it give you a better break out force and no hoses flopping around to get caught on stuff.. It's a tilting coupler so it pivots at the couple and not at the bucket.. It's way way better

[@robsdeviceunknown]

I liked those guys. They were great reps for their company. I hope half the people at all those trade shows watch this and see how it's done. They had the answers they knew there product inside and out. And you Stan. Mde operating that bucket look easy but I know dang well that was sheer skill and experience. My "ditch" would have looked like the nile river.

[@TrentMcNary420]

My man never forget you always have a bodyguard on the ready for you! Love your content and as always One love from South Dakota 🤙🏾🖤

[@runningscout14]

1st thing I thought was "those hydraulic hoses are begging to get snagged and cut. The Encon is a far more versatile set up. You can swap attachments from the cab. Losing the use of the thumb would be a deal breaker for me. The thumb is so useful.

[@notsure6182]

you do not need a thumb after you have a tilt rotator (mine is SteelWrist) and get used to using it. at first I missed my thumb when pulling up concrete or asphalt, now once my brain wrapped around what the bucket rotating can do I dont miss it. way less aggression required once you get the hang of the tilty and the weird buckets they use. I put a friend in the machine and pulling up asphalt he was missing his thumb, I just told him to spin the bucket around the slab and grab it from a different angle. he actual said 'woah' when it slid right in the bucket. the Grab is far more useful then a thumb. I can pick up a full coffee cup with the grab, I can pick up a labourers dropped in the way shovel and then gently lean it on the fence out of the way. I am only about 700hrs in to tilt rotator use.

[@CZAnthonyX]

I think there is only 1 company around me that has an engcon. Pretty neat machine. Id love to try them out! Hope you have a wonderful week! Keep it up!

[@steveprince3747]

This was a great video for me. I’ve watched all the Camarata vids a bunch of yours too :) Cool of you giving him that recognition. I’m the guy with a mini ex and small skid and this is a product I’ve been interested in but yeah the root tilt is unreasonable for me. Thanks for the info

[@rickyceccanti5914]

might want to bundle those hoses! cool attachement

[@kelvinelrick807]

Tilt buckets are really handy. I'm a trail builder in Colorado, this bucket makes back sloping, drainage rollers, and final grade work so easy.

[@xxxmikeyjock]

wait til you try a tilt rotator

[@charlesahon]

I love to watch your team Stan. Your guys are a good crew. Thanks for sharing.

[@michaelrasmussen5430]

I use a tiltrotator and haw been for 10years now and I wer Brought up with fast attachments on takers. But along came to till rotator and that one just makes your machine into a swiss You can stay in one spot, you don't have to move.

[@treemonkey_ma1718]

I purchased a 36" tilt bucket from Jordan in Feb 2021! It's a nice unit, customer service was great when ordering

[@ADJPoirier]

When trying to put on fittings under pressure, put the bucket down something raised off the ground and apply a downward force, the Preasure will be released on one side of the hydraulic system, you can then plug in and reverse the pressure to easily answer the other side.

[@chuckb9867]

Stan tell your million-dollar operator he could spend the machine a little and stand on the track and save his knees and he won't be 60 years old like me wondering why his knees are bad from jumping out of the machine in a high height just a tip

[@Mitalayeka]

Thanks for showing us other options but i still think nothing beats the real thing, tilt rotator.

[@ThriftyGarage]

We have a PowerTilt on our Bobcat E35 that goes 180°. It's not a tilt rotator but we have been amazed how much added functionality to our machine we get from that one attachment. There are certainly some negatives such as added weight and it also extends the bucket about 12" away from it's connection point on the boom.

[@MiniMachines1]

Got on one of my machines also great tool much better than a tilt bucket.

[@michaelrasmussen5430]

People who say they don't like tiltrotator they ar the ones who don't knows how oprate it!!!!

[@corneasp9418]

Perfect for digging swales!

[@TheApoptygma]

Engcon tiltrotator is the best = ) made in Sweden.. Usa is way of the new tecnoligy

[@royby7941]

I’ve got a tilt bucket on my 1.8 ton excavator and a job that a 5.5 ton couldn’t do. Between two apartments that are 2.4 meters apart and then separated later with a fence down the middle, I had to prepare the ground to grade away from both buildings towards the centre for concreting. Normally I would use the grader blade to cut any grades but there was not enough room with even my machine and it was done in a day and there were 24 apartments with identical situation. I also graded towards two surface drains in the same area.

[@sneezinhatch]

Had a tilt rotator and prefer the tilt bucket great for everything especially when it can be reverse mounted you able to get a lot closer and have no spill in

[@BarryHull]

I've got that exact bucket for my Bobcat T770, love it, it's a beast for a tilt bucket.

[@bert26a]

Stan did you look at CMP Attachments new tilt-rotator its much much cheaper than the European tilt-rotator's and you know its built very well.

[@AlexKall]

Can't find any tiltrotators on their website.

[@elewo2]

They only tilt 35* no bueno

[@timberhitchllc]

Xboom QC mate clamp is cheap and woks like magic to connect hydraulic quick couplers. Every machine with xoipled attachments should have one in the cab!

[@adriansowden138]

Hi stan here in the uk a tilt rotator dear as it may be but, A 5 man gang ground working team we be cut by two men so here its a no brainer . no days off sick, a mate had him plus two men now hes a one man band .

[@michaelrasmussen5430]

😂😂😂the tiltbucket is a fossil and usd for small diggers .tiltrotator ar fir bigger machines 5.5ton.a for the most part. And if you ask my 2 guys on the ground they love my tiltrotator 😍😍saves them a lot of digging with shovels.

[@bobbymarion3043]

Also for 40 k you can get a tilt rotator for that a grading bucket a digging bucket a grapple and maybe forks lol

[@DR-ge7lo]

That's a pretty slick setup. I'd want the lines to be a lil more tidy, but not quite sure what you could actually do for that at first glance. Thanks for demoing it for us!

[@corym.3580]

That's the first thing that I noticed, it's like Dumbo's ears flopping on the sides. No wonder there's no warranty on the hoses.

[@glenmel78]

They're gonna sell a bunch of these buckets. It's handy and at a decent price. I seriously thought it would be $8000 or something crazy.

[@kills456]

I just bought an e60 and have been eying one of these since I bought it

[@Norwegian_contractor]

Hi Stan. Tilt buckets have been around for a long time, but it will never beat a rotortllt in work speed and finish , that new mongo bucket is to short and round in its belly, so its hard to get a good contact with the ground., with a tiltbucket you have two ways to dig, against you and 90 degree seen from the belts. yes ill drive a rotortilt every day and ill never going back =)

[@Smackvttv]

You can go into your hydraulic profile and tone down the flow rate so the bucket doesn’t switch so fast

[@Youtubsucks5]

I always wanted a bucket like that on the front of the skid steer.

[@thequattro20v]

tilt attacment between the machine and bucket and it does that.

[@ripstickish]

Tilt buck is limited to only using the one bucket. Tilt hitch has 180 degrees of tilt freedom + I can tilt any bucket and my rock grab. Tilt rotator has all the abilities of a tilting hitch and a massive amount of movement and flexibility for any work application and eliminates the need for labour on most jobs. My line of work is golf courses shaping ( bunkers, greens, irrigation and drainage) and landscaping retaining walls. The change to tilt hitch and rotation tilt hitches has saved me 200k

[@brads9931]

Not even a comparison, just a plain old ditching bucket lol, turn it around and scoop backwards… doesn’t work? Take it off and grab a different attachment without getting out of the cab… still doesn’t work, at least compare apples to apples

[@71jdonn]

When I was landscaping, our 40 had a switch in the cab to go from tilt to thumb. We also called it a wrist bucket.

[@therealme613]

Any chance a root/branch/re-bar grabs those huge hose loops and rips it off?

[@user-kb2wr3vq9f]

I question the hydraulic hoses hanging out so far. Getting into working around trees or hanging objects around a house would make it difficult .

[@dannycrooks8462]

They're 2 different types of equipment a tilt rotor is more universal overall it is more expensive but you'll use it more and they can save loads of time being able to do jobs without moving the digger

[@michelpicton8357]

This channel is great. Always entertaining Stan

[@Smackvttv]

I’m getting this same bucket I have a 36” 5 year old one and it’s about had it I like the looks of this 42 the only gripe I have is the geometry it won’t curl up far enough to load trucks without spilling some .. and the thumb not closing … and the stock hoses are way to long

[@ohAerox]

Is this new in the USA? We already had these for over 20 years in Germany

[@Natural-Causes]

It’s probably been mentioned but can’t those hydraulic lines be secured? Way to easy to get caught up in trees and brush just hanging out like that.

[@joaomarum]

Hey Stan. I´m from Portugal and I follow your chanel for 6 years maybe. I run a project and landscape company in Portugal and we have kubotas and an Avant.. We have a tilt bucket on a U36 and it was a game changer for us. I never tried a tilt rotator trough. The only thing that frustrates me is conecting hooses for the reason you´ve shown. We have the avant with the multi conector system and its sooooo easy to conect atachments. Does any of you guys known a system for a excavator that would make this job easier? Thank you!

[@johnclark5153]

Pro Tip...Connect the hoses together when you take off the attachment. Pressure will stay equalized for the next hook up.

[@graveldrivewayrecovery]

😅

[@gregdawson633]

Try loading a dump truck! The materials fall out of the bucket. The angle of the quick attach is off. At least with the KX bracket.

[@luisarevalo8394]

With a tilt rotator would you just be better off getting a skid steer around 45k plus?

[@jamesnm21]

Andrew Camarata will put a machine through it's paces like no other. He's got quite a reputation for his full speed ahead approach and is basically the Batman of youtube.

[@Trump-2024MAGA]

he does hackjob work.

[@martineastburn3679]

He is good. I think I would have pushed a stack to the tree and then set the blade at 2" and drove backwards to level it out to grade.

[@dannycrooks8462]

Tilt buckets are good but they're not a replacement of a tiltrotor

[@randywilson6869]

If u watch hedblom u will see why a tilt/rotator should come with every excavator as standard equipment watch them people over sees and u will see why their so far ahead of the usa on equipment. Cuts down on so much labor. For 1 and it cuts down on different equipment because u can just reach over get a broom and sweep on the way out

[@stewbird]

Interesting how different places around the world have different ways of attaching a bucket to a digger.

[@thequattro20v]

Like comparing a Plane to a boat.

[@bobbymarion3043]

Your goes are leaving out tilt rotator have oil quick now you can drop the tilt rotator off and hook your bucket on keeping your break out force then you can drop the bucket pick the tilt rotator up and pick up say a grapple and never get out of the cab it's not far to tell people yea they will do what a tilt rotator will do it's false

[@robertvannicolo4435]

Stan it will be very useful for many tasks I wish list for my u35

[@thegingerlandscaper3549]

Man, one day you guys are gonna discover tilting quick hitches and your mind is gonna be blown… 😂

[@AlexKall]

Since he's already familiar with tiltrotators I don't think he's going to be blown away by a tilting hitch.

[@pirrehansen]

4000$ on a tilt bucket is a skam! i live in sweden and here get a good tilt bucket is about 1500$ , the pricing in us is just nuts. a tiltrotor here for a 5 ton machine is about 20-25 grand, but the main diffrens is that here like 95% of new machines have them so if the demand is high prices will go down

[@dieseldrivenpulvermos673]

brukar finnas begagnade rototiltar på blocket för runt 40000kr

[@ianunderwood1163]

Love the videos

[@theobserver7643]

The whole world: What if we could be faster with a machine, cover more ground, and save on personnel? USA: What if we attach a mechanical quick coupler to the excavator so that we can change attachments more slowly, pair it with an old system where we still have to connect hoses by hand, and make the excavator slow and inefficient? Sounds good, let’s do it. If you want to save some money, instead of buying a bucket for $4,000, get a tilt for $6,000 and a hydraulic quick coupler with MS03 for $2,000. That way, you can at least tilt all your buckets, turn them around when needed, and it’ll only take 10 seconds to change buckets instead of at least 5 minutes. Plus, you’ll save yourself a lot of dirt and broken connections, etc. We got rid of these kinds of buckets about 15 years ago because they’re heavy, and the cylinders kept breaking, especially at the connections. edit: Ur "good operator" timmi, realy need some training.... he rly cant drive a excavator i have the feeling you dont use excavators over there a lot. for example watch "Cat 316F and Engcon Tiltrotator Backfilling Garage" what he does alone there u need at least 2-3 people for it and you would be much slower. btw: Tilt Rotator for such a Mini is like 15k not 40 ;) buyed one not long ago for a 12To wheeled from Kinshofer (nox) and it was 20k

[@spencerwebberwing4618]

Your comparing 2 things that aren’t even comparable makes no sense at all

[@dieseldrivenpulvermos673]

it has only one thing in common with a tiltrotator and that is tilts. a tiltrotator has a hyd quick cuopler , extra hydraulic conections plus you can youse it on every atachments and a tiltrotator also rotats wich i think is moure useful then the tilt, maybe americans woundt need tilt buckets if 95% of machines came standard with rototilts just like the logging industry and ag industry america will always be 30years behind

[@TheDroidKilla]

this is a silly comparison.

[@staceygandy2009]

That for the cost is a no brainer. I've always ran different equipment but fixed bucket. You could do all different kinds of work with that. Good deal Stanley!

[@georgehofgren6123]

Import garbage... you don't know they make them in This country?

[@4rubberzaday]

Yo Stan have you ever used Brunt boots and are they any good looking for an opinion from someone I can trust’s opinion

[@tomlorenzen4062]

When I first saw the title I thought that it said Tit Locator 🤣

[@fredthompson1988]

I think those house could be a bit shorter so they dont get caught on something and break

[@seandonaghy9224]

Hey Stan you mentioned a heavy equipment operator who has a KZbin channel I did not catch his channel could you share that?

[@treemonkey_ma1718]

Andrew Camarata, he lives in NY and does some crazy stuff with the equipment that he has

[@jamesnm21]

Dude's got about every machine you can have from telehandler, dozers, crane, mining trucks/loaders and on and on.

[@northeasterndirtandpropert7974]

I don't think you can go wrong for the money.The extra versatlity is worth the small price.

[@pietervanoverstraeten228]

Is it the stoneage?

[@bearded_ginger6765]

fucking crazy on these prices 😂

[@bwdiver1]

Dude no comparison of the two.

[@challe_challe3622]

It would be quite fun to see if you could borrow a machine with tilt rotator try it on a job. It’s maybe hard to get hold of that sort of machine. Also feels like another big difference is that you can change the bucket or implement on a tiltrotator compared to the tilt bucket. we have five different attachments to attach to the digger (5.3 ton) for different jobs, and we are a small company, the bigger ones have even more attachments to provide the ultimate tool for the job. Its a huge time saver. If you wanna see a professional (not me) using tiltrotator here: youtube.com/@HedblomSwe It looks really easy

[@Timmiboi740]

i have send hedblom links to stan before but he wont look at them....

[@Joshyd346]

Literally comparing two attachments which aren’t comparable Tilt bucket may be half the price, but can only do half of what a rototilt can do

[@Dirtmonkey]

Tilt bucket is 1/10 the price. not 1/2. I could buy 10 tilt buckets for 1 tilt rotator

[@Joshyd346]

Your right, let me just jump out and switch the bucket around then the hoses every time I need to spin the bucket to dump dirt against a wall Each has there own benefit, but do not compare this to a rotatilt, your throwing your new operator fan base off course with this one It’s like comparing a excavator to a bobcat, and your saying bobcat is the way to go because you can “pick one up for 1/10th the price” They are not the same!

[@dieseldrivenpulvermos673]

@@Dirtmonkey used nice rototilts in sweden go for around 4k and a rototilt has 10times more usefullnes

[@Jtex95]

I love watching Andrew camarata videos too.

[@randywilson6869]

Rotator is worth a lot more

[@befree322]

Tilt rotator over price

[@freakyaussy]

Tilting quick hitch is better

[@jacobbuckley8232]

Why not just use the blade

[@luiscaquias6523]

Stan can you the thumb on this?

[@court2379]

Fact #1 isn't a fact. It depends on the volume of the system, what it is made of, and it's geometry. It will vary significantly.

[@geraldnisly3829]

If you would have a true blue excavator call the Caterpillar. You have a much better luck and much better machine.

[@Chad_Heishman]

Too bad they put 10 foot lines and a toy bucket on the thing 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@andrewburridge2955]

How do u spell Andrew ??????? that tester this bucket hard ???

[@DocOlson]

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[@DocOlson]

Camarata

[@jamesnm21]

If Andrew can't break it it's pretty sturdy.

[@andrewburridge2955]

What is his full name (Andrew ?????) and what is the write spelling ?

[@dannycrooks8462]

When you were diggthe ditch you couldn't rotate the bucket

[@nashcobb3056]

here to help

[@grantmeyer6097]

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[@NateMorello111]

I really like most of your videos but to compare a tilt bucket to a tilt rotator is like comparing a spoon and a fork. Yes you can scoop with both but only one can stab. Probably one of the dumbest things I have heard you say in the construction industry. Get a tilt rotator and then compare what you can do with the two.