40k THE WAR FOR BADAB! The Warders Chapters Lore, The Defenders of the Maelstrom

[@patroclusilliad233]

Lamenters: *Hope The Setting: "How many times are we going to have to teach you this lesson old man?!"

[@Marinealver]

Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

[@Crexman501]

And yet Hope is the only thing holding back from the depths of despair.

[@Dartchone]

@@Marinealver to properly use this quote when descirbing the 40k universe "Hope is a first step on a long an painfull road to disappointment"

[@stevennicgorski1657]

"The Astral Claws sound awesome, but why do they sound familiar?" Remembers the Lamenters video* "Oh yeah."

[@Trapsarentgay133]

Sad power armour noises

[@bezyn2291]

"The Lamentors... as the luck would have it" Cruel and unusual.

[@whitekong1033]

Normal human mortal stubbing their toe: Ow, dang that's a zinger. Lamenter stubbing his toe: *Toe bones shatter into powder, toe nail flies off and embeds itself in his eye, the table suddenly explodes shredding the Lamenter, and there's no Apothecary to stop them from bleeding out in the mess hall.*

[@Thunder_Anglo_of_Monster-Girls]

If he's lucky

[@vass6120]

Somehow still saving an innocent family

[@some_shitposting_idiot3023]

@@vass6120 and that family end up joining the guard and become high ranking officers leading several successful crusades against orks and chaos

[@bradymenting5120]

Lamenters don't stub their toes... tables covered in cups of hot coffee just yeet themselves directly at the Lamenter's face while spontaneously combusting and sending shards of asbestos and lead based paint everywhere.

[@theenderdestruction2362]

@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 and they always remember and speak highly of the lamaters

[@GrammarTron3000]

"Four highly recommended space marine chapters near a stable warpstorm. Nothing could POSSIBLY go wrong." - High Lords of Terra

[@iulian943]

I can only imagine Guilliman's reaction reading records about great ideas like this

[@Vollification]

This won't totally backfire at all :D

[@Matihood1]

I mean, if I recall correctly, they were doing pretty well, getting deeper and deeper into the Maelstrom before... I won't spoil anything.

[@fritzvoss5263]

@@Matihood1 slaneesh approves of your choice of words

[@pensador6953]

@@iulian943 I SO hope Alfabusa does a skit on that!!!!!

[@sunjian5458]

Charnel Guard have an armory that makes even founding chapters jealous? **BLOOD RAVENS WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR RELIQUARY LOCATION**

[@woaddragon]

Just like the Minotaurs

[@gso619]

Maybe that's why they're so secretive and avoid others - so the magpies can't track them down.

[@sleipnirodin2881]

Will i dare? I *WILL* dare! [ *THE GREY KNIGHTS WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW YOUR RELIQUARY LOCATION* ] [Edit: to Deus Ex Machina even more of course! ]

[@QixTheDS]

@@woaddragon they’ll bring the Charnal Guard to their knees before taking their toys because the Minotaurs are cunts.

[@gruntmasterbroadcast]

Lamenter Marine ship: Mechanicus tech guy tripping accidentally spilling coffee onto the ships warp drive Lamenter: "NO NOT AGAIINN!!!"

[@Che8721]

DRIVE FAILURE! DRIVE FAILURE!!

[@donwebber9071]

coffee in the engInes.......ENGINE GOES. VVVVRRRRROOOOMMMMM and bouncing around like a 2.year old on pixie stiz

[@Interrobang212]

Alfabusa? Is that you?

[@This_side_of_the_internet]

Drive failure: recite hymn of inevitable demise:(

[@TheVladdracula1]

Oooohhhh... So that's what happened that time they got stuck in the warp for a couple hundred years

[@Hero-yu4om]

Arch: "Grrreetings and salutations friends, and welcome back to.." My brain: "The siege... of Vraks" Arch: "The war... for Badab I was genuinely taken aback by the change

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

I'm actually watching the siege of Vraks series right now. This was like a record skip in my brain.

[@inveteratecrusader4882]

For real. My brain substituted death korp of Krieg for astartes for like the first five minutes.

[@GrayderFox]

Y'know, I feel kinda bad for the Imperial planners here, they did surprisingly good work. The Lamenters, a Chapter who can be relied upon to stand up to odds that would make most of their peers baulk, would surely be an asset in the face of a warp storm. The Charnel Guard seems both unquestionably loyal and reliable - they'll do the job, even if the job is...uncomfortable. Again, surely an asset in the face of Chaos corruption warping local populaces, and the nice equipment is a good bonus, and makes up for the Mantis Guard's lack of toys I'd reckon. The Mantis Guard themselves know the area so well that their inclusion is a no-brainer, so good job on the planners for actually including them, and the Astral Claws sound like golden boys amongst golden boys for the Imperium. Sure, that 800 year stint is odd, but if they're still serving loyally...well, what is the Imperium going to do, NOT put their best and brightest at the head of such an important campaign? It seems like a perfect setup. Surely, nothing will go wrong!

[@HrothgarHeavenlight]

It's intresting if Lamenters bad luck was somehow unlocked or expanded with them being so close to source of warp energy.

[@DarkCT]

yeah, this is a selection of on it's face incredible choices... oh boy, punished for good decisionmaking.

[@Interrobang212]

Setting up the Warders was a stroke of the Imperium doing good by it's citizens and being an actually effective body. What happened AFTER they set up the warders is a bit more... expected.

[@warhammsravinegourds9557]

I’m leaning about badab for the first time and I can already guess that the Lamenters are gonna get hung out to dry or worse more than once by the other 3. They’ll probably also butt heads with the Charnel Guard because I know the Lamenters care about imperial citizens and any chapter like the Charnel guard probably doesn’t.

[@ivanthemadvandal8435]

@@warhammsravinegourds9557 worse, much worse

[@gso619]

I like to imagine the Lamenters codex has an added chapter at the end - a series of laws written by chaplain Murphy.

[@torch1028]

Lamentors are cursed because chaos recognizes how incorruptable they are and how capable they are Chaos fears the lamentors

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

They lament there incorruptible status

[@williamwilson1222]

If they changed their color scheme to blue, their luck might change.

[@Valasilphukiir]

Either that, or Tzeentch just *reeeeeally* gets a kick out of f***ing with them.

[@Vollification]

Normal bad luck: Trip on a banana peel, fall and hurt yourself Lamenter level bad luck: Trip on a banana peel, fall on a bookcase filled with important documents (that seems to have materialized out of thin air) that tips over, bursts into fire for no real reason next to a leaking fuel tank (that ALSO seems to have materialized out of thin air) that in turn goes boom and turns an entire hive-city into a firestorm because for some unkown reason this very fuel tank was directly connected to every fueltank in the entire hive! My theory on why the Lamenters have never been corrupted or influenced by the Gods of Chaos is because Nurgle don't want these walking accidents destroying his garden, Tzeentch don't want them anywhere near his well constructed plans, Khorne doesn't want them to accidentally cause skull-avalanches and tipping over his brass citadel and Slaanesh doesn't want to think about the accidents that could happen involving sex-toys.

[@alanrickett2537]

I think there are to have a run of luck that saves 5he empire at some point and the empiror is setting up the kama train

[@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436]

@@alanrickett2537 sounds like fun, I merely can not wait to finally have this "good luck"!

[@alanrickett2537]

@@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436 I have great record of getting it wrong when silent kings crew first appeared in white drawf I pegged they as a immune system for the galaxy built by the old one to deal with the tyinids infections which happen from time to time

[@casbyness]

@@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436 Their bad luck is what has prevented them from turning traitor and becoming damned forever. The Emperor protects.

[@thydzz2180]

The Lamenters suffer from the excess of accidnets that even Slaanesh does not enjoy

[@13loodCrow]

Mantis Warriors: Independent, experts at infantry hit and run tactics, with surgical precision. Charnal Guard: Lapd- I mean.... Loyal, unquestioning, heavily armed, and determined Astartes of the Imperium of Man! Astral Claws: The Ultimate Badasses, basically. Lamenters: Poor fucking bastards that are arguably better and more loyal than any other Chapter. Oh lovely day, this is going to be a great time!

[@morningnapalm9963]

Lamenter's: *Does literally anything* Universe: "Roll D20." Lamenter's: *Rolls a 1*

[@ObsidiaBlack1]

Spoiler, every face on the die is a 1.

[@hasunoushasu9710]

@@ObsidiaBlack1 nah. One of the face is a 20, otherwise they would have disappeared. The Lamenters are basically a group of dnd making a lot of 1 putting them near extermination and saving their life's with a 20 at the end.

[@chubbyninja89]

I think it's kind of shitty writing to make the Lamenters have *that* bad of luck all the time.

[@LRMRULES]

@@chubbyninja89 that's the point, that's there curse, there "flaw", nobody gets out of the cursed founding unscathed

[@chubbyninja89]

@@LRMRULES I can understand that, but that doesn't stop it from being really stupid. And it's not like I expect things to be all sunshine and rainbows for the Lamenters, but I just think that having terrible misfortune befall them just because is just poor writing. I think that it'd be far more interesting if the Lamenters' misfortune was more due to them choosing not leave the people of the Imperium to be slaughtered or something, instead of them just getting crapped on all the time.

[@wintersking4290]

The Lamentors are one of the best Loyalist chapters, despite their bad luck they keep on fighting in the face of ever greater despair. Truly a manifestation of human determination and compassion.

[@doomguy9049]

Yes that's right

[@gavinr4214]

Dats rite!

[@killinspecialist1965]

as Sanguinius would have wanted

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

One of?

[@KyleJordanGaming]

“The Gods hate us. I truly believe this.”- Iskander Khayon, Lord of The Black Legion, Advisor to Abaddon, Formerly of The Thousand Sons (Alleged), Formerly of The Lamenters (Suspected)

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

if not, he's definitely mood kindred, as Calgar would say.

[@theenderdestruction2362]

The Idea that a lamaters defected and ISNT possessed by atleast 20 daemons is just hard to actually think about

[@HungPham-qq6me]

​@@theenderdestruction2362 why would a daemon want to possess a lamenter? It has better chances trying to seduce khorne than trying to survive as a possessed lamenter

[@theenderdestruction2362]

@@HungPham-qq6me probably tcheechian in nature or malal or something

[@macromondo8026]

*The Lamenters are the "Hope in the Pandora's Box" made SPACE MARINE and anyone that says otherwise insults the God-Emperor's fabulous Hawk Boy's legacy*

[@Seldonlair]

Actually, I think they ARE the box. And they're desperately clinging on to hope as all the other shit let loose rampages around them.

[@barryward2128]

@@Seldonlair I like this guys theory

[@macromondo8026]

@@Seldonlair No the Box is the "Cursed Founding" itself, everything that came out of it is more or less horrible, but the Lamenters are the embodyment of Hope as the only ones that try to do the right thing for the Imperium and Mankind time after time again and never giving up no matter what their cursed fate throws at them

[@QixTheDS]

@@macromondo8026 that’s the golden one right there.

[@StrugglingInTheInterstice]

Celestial Lions: "Bad stuff keeps happening to us and we can't explain it." Lamenters: "First time?"

[@Xaxp]

*Hears Lamenter's name* Me: *Holding back manly tears*

[@Seldonlair]

F in the chat boys.

[@DarkCT]

@@Seldonlair F

[@ryanchatel3675]

F

[@aleksanderwertynski9870]

F

[@kingzephyr6878]

F

[@daywither927]

"Chapter master, we are to be reassigned to defend the Maelstrom, along with our brother from the Mantis Warriors and Lamenters and-" "What did you just say?" "Uh, the Lamenters, chapter master." _starts crying_

[@gorvarhadgarson5227]

Squat Guardsman: ( About to be overrun by heretics) Hang on manlings, the Astartes are on the way! Krieg: ( mutters in confused gas mask noises) Cygnax Guardsman: What is he saying?! Cadian: Good news and bad. Good news a group of Astartes are on the way. Cygnax: That's good! Cadian: The bad news is most seem to have forgotten their boltguns...and now they are stumbling over their own feet. Squat: By the Emperor, it's the bloody Lamentors! Cygnax: By the golden throne, no!!

[@Sarindanvelor]

Krieg: (happy gasmask noises)

[@jacobduty28]

For those we cherish, we die in glory. Ave Imperator.

[@dagdamor1]

One of many things I appreciate about the Astartes fan series: hammering home how *utterly suicidal* it would be to challenge a Chapter of these warriors, let alone FOUR.

[@cryptosporidium1375]

Lamenters are the greatest Blood Angel descendant chapter because despite their misfortune, they push on. Their will to the Imperium stronger than adamantium. Their will is a dim resolute bulwark against the enemies of Imperium. Their compassion allows them to live despite being battered and broken. While their hearts continue to be broken, they continue to rebuild and push on despite the odds. That is why they are my favorite chapter. Their misfortune epitomizes their resilience and you cannot lament about that.

[@DarkCT]

...this Chapter is one of the very few i utterly respect. if i were to EVER make an official marine army, it would be them.

[@kriegkorpsman402]

"Oh Emperor" "Here we go again"

[@catsareevil101]

The Mantis Warriors were loose cannon cops. So they were dropped in a wild west of the Imperium. Are we sure a decision this clever came from Terra?

[@Seldonlair]

They were high at the time on warp dust, so certain mistakes are obviously going to be made.

[@KyleJordanGaming]

Can we send them to Portland next?

[@thangvitanh]

As I see it, they are already there, so it make sense to use them as wardens, moving them out might have hurt their pride

[@NetMoverSitan]

They're a White Scars Successor chapter.

[@clevermcgenericname891]

Probably a drunken ork Warboss who overran some Administratum communications bunker and started issuing random orders for the lulz. Efficiency went up 120% so the IG refused to take the planet back

[@KyleJordanGaming]

The Lamenters... Steady yourselves, Brothas. Remember, even the Emperor himself occasionally sheds a single, manly tear. ❤️✊

[@calorinedarkness5232]

in fact, he does so on a daily basis. whenever a loyal servant of the imperium dies... allegedly.

[@myvideosetc.8271]

@@calorinedarkness5232 For the lamenters actually started to rain in the throne chamber.

[@calorinedarkness5232]

@@myvideosetc.8271 there gave been many lamenters lost. brother. too many. not to mention the fact that each lamenter lost is worth many tears.

[@chrishill3536]

he can make oceans with the tears he shed about the Lamenters.

[@timestealer9152]

The Astral Claws sure sound like swell guys. I'm sure they will do a great job of dealing with this new chaos problem.

[@Haloister]

They do! Until they don't. Oh boy when they don't.

[@EddyOfTheMaelstrom]

The Huron fella sure seems swell. I'm sure he's a loyal master who isn't being subtly corrupted by Chaos at all.

[@KyleJordanGaming]

Lamenter 1: “The ‘Astral Claws’ are so nice. They even invited us to dinner. Did we... did we just make a... “friend”?! Omggggg ^____^. Ok, no screw ups. We *cannot* be rude to our new ‘friend’! Alright, what was the Commander’s name?” Lamenter 2: “Chapter Master... ‘Huron’... First name... Uh... GOD DAMN IT.”

[@fumarc4501]

*Mood*

[@scotcheggable]

"Just call him Chapter Master Huron, he'll never know."

[@Frerichs1962]

The Lamenters: Breathes Tzeentch: Its free real estate!

[@keqet12]

>Lamenters >As luck would have it

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

those two lines hurt a lot more than they have any right too.

[@akuinator6350]

“Shoulda sent the Ultramarines instead guys.” -Unknown High Lord

[@roguepsykerhaaker4813]

ugh, you always say that Steve And I'm always right!

[@GorNaKat]

Not even "the Ultramarines". Just 1 Ultramarine would've been enough tbh. On a side note, which do you think is stronger: an Ultramarine or the Lamenter's bad omen?

[@roguepsykerhaaker4813]

@@GorNaKat I think it'd kill everyone around the ultramarine, but not him

[@killinspecialist1965]

@Dr. Jimmy_Rustle only when matt ward is involved . . . mostly

[@marcusriley1311]

The lamenters are the eternal kicked puppies of the 40K universe. just like kick puppies thay always return to the warm comforting arms of the imperium's embrace. no matter how hard the Imperium screws them.

[@Maezhughes]

I feel like the lamenters have gotten all the slightly defective/ barely operational equipment that comes from the forge worlds. Either that, or tzeench is having a real great time fucking with them. Probably a mix of both.

[@stevenendersby8442]

yes and....yes...just because it makes way to much sense to not be a thing.

[@johnj.spurgin7037]

It's tzentch. Definitely deeeeefinitely tzeentch. *pink horror noises* A daemon incursion? Not again!

[@farmerboy916]

I suspect that on the one hand, it's genuine warp fuckery. On the other, it would be... aided, by people who do not like them or are superstitious not sending their best.

[@Maezhughes]

@Lord Admiral Spire honestly that really wouldn't surprise me that much

[@lucasbeck1391]

Tzeentch is sending them all the defective gear

[@tulipalll]

I feel like there is much potential in the lamenters story! For instance, things go wrong so often for the lamenters that they go to the Nth degree to account for those problems. They always expect the worst so they always prepare for it. Consequently, there would be no chapter in the Imperium who is as adaptable and fluid as the lamenters. Bolter jams? Not even an instants hesitation and they have proceeded to contingency B, C, amd D. The weak enemy turned out to be the strongest nut to crack? Sucks, but that's why they packed extra fuel to jet out of there quickly. I feel like their superpower would be resourcefulness.

[@farmerboy916]

Ah, but only made so by constantly having their skills honed via bad luck; and therefore, only ever having to prepare for the worst case, rather than middling ones. And if their bad luck were to disappear, they would presumably be very effective for a while as they don't have to deal with a handicap, but quickly lose their edge without excessive paranoia; even worse, would that even work to enhance their capabilities without their bad luck narrowing down what could happen to "always the worst?"

[@MizantropMan]

Lufgt Huron appears upon the stage, the only illumination in the entire hall being a stark beam of focused light that revealed his presence. 'Well then.'- he speaks to the audience.- 'Let!'- he swings his flamethrower to the left and another beam of light manifests, revealing a representative of the Lamenters.-'Us!'- with a swing of the talon to the right, a member of the Charnel Guard is revealed.-'Begin!'- he raises both arms as the entire stage becomes bathed in light, a Mantis Warrior standing behind him, and a courtain of deep red spreading all the way from one side of the stage to the other. A cheer breaks out from two hundred and thirty three thousand throats as the spectators let lose their built-up excitement, chanting the words etched in gold upon the curtain, right above the black and white sigil of something resembling an arched gateway. 'BADAB WAR! BADAB WAR! BADAB WAR!'

[@l.d-b3465]

You ever wonder if the Lamenters 'Bad Luck' is due to warp shenanigans? Do you think standing near some Blanks/Pariahs might fix it for them?

[@colmcorbec7031]

Strap in boys! It's going to be a bumpy ride!

[@ethrsag735]

Straight Silver lads

[@KyleJordanGaming]

Official Warcry of The Lamenters.

[@thydzz2180]

*Minotaurs Theme Song Plays*

[@deathbytouch4252]

Like for lamenters the poor misguided sons of Sanguinius! :(

[@KaiserAfini]

Not exactly misguided, more like stoic. It takes a seriously steely will and focused mind to remain loyal and standing in the face of fortune's constant spite.

[@deathbytouch4252]

@@KaiserAfini no misguided is exactly right, Not going to explain further cause spoilers

[@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436]

Misguided? We're still loyalist. We just got some (get this) bad luck by getting put there.

[@deathbytouch4252]

@@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436 again don’t wanna talk spoiler but the lamenters their trust in a certain allie betrayed and were misguided in to war -_-

[@fumarc4501]

I like the Lamenters and the Mantis Warriors, they both did what they thought was right.

[@KaiserAfini]

You would think the Lamenters would be colored green by now, from becoming so jaded. Its seriously incredible they both survive and remain loyal, because the galaxy is not giving them good reason for either.

[@Matt-md5yt]

glad you did this series. Blood Gorgons are one of my favorite Chaos guys

[@NewGuy2534]

An Arch video on Wednesday? I’m happier than a Slaaneshi Prince on an unprotected Eldar Craftworld.

[@wintersking4290]

That's pretty dang happy

[@aeric257]

I can't think of anything happier, except maybe the moment the orkz finally fill the entire universe with dakka.

[@wintersking4290]

@@aeric257 A Nurgle prince in an imperial underhive?

[@NewGuy2534]

Impossible. It’ll never be enough DAKKA.

[@Khornecussion]

An UNPROTECTED SLAANESHI PRINCE doing UNPROTECTED THINGS on an UNPROTECTED CRAFTWORLD. Prepare your butts, Slaanesh is about to do some damage.

[@mnbvcxz486]

I just picture some Mantis Warriors glaring from behind their chairs rather than sitting on them during the first official meeting of The Warders.

[@wintersking4290]

So basically the Lamentors would be almost as equally combat effective if they charged the enemy naked and used Pankration wrestling to win?

[@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436]

No, our armor and weapons still work pretty often, we just need to be ready for them to not work.

[@wintersking4290]

@@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436 hey it might be amusing enough to convince certain powers to reduce a curse.

[@CuteWolfie1]

This reminds me of a video I saw, a former Lamenter ends up completing a mission for their new chapter, and almost breaks down crying in joy when nothing goes horribly wrong

[@AnikaJarlsdottr]

Adeptus Biologis 1: "Lets make a chapter that weaponises Murphy's Law" Adeptus Biologis 2: "ok sure, or.... hear me out"

[@kevind807]

Me: Thats weird, why do I hear Chumbawamba playing in the distance? Arch: Proceeds to deliver lore about the Lamenters

[@TheAschwittek]

Imperium:Deploy over 4000 space marines to the fringes of the Maelstrom About half may be corrupted over time Also Imperium: *surprised Pikachu face*

[@DeHerg]

What's the alternative? Letting whatever comes out of it run rampant? PDF militias + Guardsmen? Without hypno-suggestive indoctrination they would become corrupted even faster (which was the reason for astartes deployment to begin with). The only thing you could deploy without that happening would be grey knights but those are needed almost everywhere in the Imperium.

[@jackdaalfbrainork6392]

The high lords must have been smoking something strong to think that placing four chapters next to a small eye of terror was a good idea

[@alexbrown1930]

Honestly, I have always wondered if the Lamentors luck is actually good. How many other chapters would have survived all the stuff that the Lamentors suffered? Let alone survived and stayed loyal?

[@QixTheDS]

How is it good luck to have all that shit happen to you?

[@alexbrown1930]

@@QixTheDS because they survived. The luck isn't the stuff that has happened to them, but that 5hey survived things that any one of which would have destroyed a lesser chapter.

[@swampking666]

The Lamenters, my heroes, just beside Garviel Loken.

[@bluefalconssuck5881]

*Lamenter... **_"What makes you think you're worthy to join our Chapter?"_* Prospect... "I lost 274 coin tosses in a row". *Lamenter... **_"So, you won the 275th?"_* Prospect... "No, not exactly. The coin fell down a storm drain... It was my last coin". *Lamenter... **_"Ahhhhhh, A future Captain"._*

[@aconcernedcommissar6261]

"My Chapter Master, Lord Huron why have there been early terran songs or as you put it '1700 sea shantys' playing in your chambers non stop" A Astral Claw marine

[@creightonleerose582]

To drown out the "VoicesInMyHead"......~Shit gets NOISY @ times...You should hear em yelpin now....-Poor, Poor Bastards... Chief theme songs? ~Warren Zevons "My Shits Fucked Up"..."Send Lawyers Guns & Money"..;)

[@Martijn_Steinpatz]

🎵When you need a purge in your neighborhood... Who you're gonna call? CHARNEL GUARDS! 🎵 - Unofficial, unconfirmed recording from a Charnel Guard drop pod

[@HengerR]

Is there a phone number on that unconfirmed record? Asking for a friend!

[@Caboose7]

@@HengerR 1-800 purge the heritics

[@DarkCT]

Every time the Lamenters get brought up, im going to be watching with great interest.

[@RedwolfDogrocket]

Black Dragon 1: "pass the ketchup." Black Dragon 2: "ok." Black Dragon 1: "ouch. Thanks."

[@philip8498]

"To be granted the honour of three successor chapters is nearly unheard of" Ultramarines: whats that? We couldnt hear you over the "courage and honour" cries of our 500 successor chapters"

[@anthonywalker6268]

Mantis Warriors + Vietnam = Home

[@shawnm1902]

The trees speak high gothic?

[@savag3salad813]

@@shawnm1902 clearly you haven't been to Vietnam

[@MrArdhes]

Lol, after hearing with who the Charnel Guards teamed up the last time, I already knew what kind of Chapter this is. The Lion would be pleased with these guys.

[@17ryuzaki]

Arch: I already made a video on these guys so I won't talk about them too much Also Arch: *spends 8 minutes talking about the Lamenters* Always love your long-winded digressions/tangents, Arch.

[@QixTheDS]

8 minutes is too short for a quick explanation of the Lamenters. They are the best boys.

[@cthomaspeasant3059]

Ah the poor Lamentors, goodest good boys who can't get a break

[@60sSam]

The Lamenters: Are involved. Possibility of something going wrong: Nothing. Zip. Zero. Nothing: Someone hold my beer.

[@ej.crusing6130]

You were the chosen one Huron! You were meant to destroy Chaos, not join them!

[@Bgh583]

The lamenters, the good bois doing their best. These good bois need a blanket and a mug of hot chocolate and hug.

[@ragingidiot2842]

Summary of the Mantis Warriors: Everybody gangsta til the trees start speaking High Gothic.

[@Benthesniperof8]

Yes yes. Badab, been waiting-longing for this series yes yes. Membership is valuable to receive videos day early, glory to skavenblight!

[@Balevolt]

Ah, the Carnal guard who have 2 pictures. Also, I think the Astral Claws are Luna Wolves gene stock but I have no backing on this.

[@Matt-md5yt]

or are they UltraMarines but are crazy compared to the real ones?

[@Balevolt]

@@Matt-md5yt I mean there's the chance they could be like pre Guilliman ultramarine but we get like a sentence what that was like.

[@Avi_Imperator]

I was just thinking about what the chapter tactic for the Lamenters would be: All rolls made by Lamenters units require the re-roll of all successful rolls. What do y’all think?

[@RemusValeryain]

Honestly these get me though work, I don't make much but I stock selves and Arch makes the night manageable with his good lore videos.

[@WombatDave]

The Emperor weeps manly tears for the Lamentors.

[@andreykuzmin4355]

Lamenters... My poor, dear mood-kindred.

[@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436]

Mood-kindred!

[@andreykuzmin4355]

@@theoverpreparerlamenters3r436 Are you... are you piece of s-t too?

[@bjornthefellhanded5655]

Yknow, the Lamenters manage to simultaneously be one of the absolute best Chapters for any scenario with the odds against the Imperium AND one of the worst Chapters for any scenario with the odds against the Imperium.....

[@guibass2000]

Really liked the background music, this is already getting me excited for more!

[@mikkelnpetersen]

If you think luck isn't a factor in battle. You haven't played D&D and only roll 1s, ALL the time. THEN you'll see the importance of luck.

[@DarkCT]

This. A run of bad luck is damning, even in one fight, as any battle is a matter of timing and odds. on the scale and means war is done in 40k? you best believe this is a bad thing to have in such horrendous supply.

[@KyleJordanGaming]

You’re not wrong. Now consider- there are no d20s in 40k. Only d6s. There’s nothing quite like watching your Deathwing Terminators, some of the greatest warriors in the Imperium, the elite First Company Veterans of the First Legion, each with hundreds of years experience of war, garbed in priceless, nigh invulnerable, blessed Tactical Dreadnought Armour, striding forth gloriously into battle, as some random jackoff cultist blindfires a laspistol from 20 meters away, the pitiful beam unerringly striking his eye lens before exiting the back of his skull, a somewhat ignoble end, I’m sure you’ll agree. It’s cool though, his 4 squad brothas will surely avenge him. Seriously, what are the odds that any of the 29 other shots will do the exact same thing? (Spoiler Alert: High) >:|

[@DeHerg]

@@DarkCT "on the scale and means war is done in 40k?" The scale would actually diminish any effect of good or bad "luck" (ie unusual deviation from the expected value) due to the law of large numbers.

[@DarkCT]

@@DeHerg And yet with the Lamenters, it does not, seeping into every little thing they do. who they ally with. when they are turned on. their technology large and small down to every bit of weapon and armor. tactical and logistic placements suffer as well.... It's no wonder an era so superstitious has given them such a dark cloud hanging over them. it's as if a... god of fate... is holding the scale down and affecting every single one of them all the time. gotta consider whats thats like on each one of their psyches as well as all those they work near.

[@trygveblacktiger597]

The Lamenters reminds me of a Warhammer Fantasy Empire knightly order. Cant remember their name but in short their members have a tendensy to fall down the stairs and fall upon their own swords. And other moments where they just died and its sutch a problem they are quiet agressive on the battlefield to atleast die in honorble combat rather than by slipping on a puddle

[@ErikWarhammer]

Wait! The Lamenters were founded in THAT "Age"? No wonder the founding was "cursed". Wouldn't be surprised if the Work on the Gene-seed WAS done right and somehow Vandire found his way in and just pissed on everything.

[@elysiankentarchy1531]

He probably ordered all the geneseed alterations that happened there in an attempt to one up the Emperor.

[@ErikWarhammer]

@@elysiankentarchy1531 "Make those ones grow horns!" "Why, my lord?" "Cause the voices in my head said so!!!"

[@Noxims47314]

lamenters: The unlucky kid, born on friday the 13th and forever accompanied by spilt canisters of salt, broken mirrors and black cats. Charnel Guard: the teacher's pet. Mantis Warriors: The one kid left behind on the playground because he wouldn't want to come back inside and eventually turned into a feral hobo living in the nearby park. (Space Marine Rambo's that could make a Catachan fighter blush.) Astral Claws: See Harvey Dent, he's known to have a fitting quote or two.

[@jamesthelamenter3403]

[Cries in Lamenter]

[@ElGreco15]

Looking at these suits makes me glad this is pre-primaris lore. They actually look like space marines, not generic marine #462

[@Phe0niz]

I'm just sitting here hearing Arch talk about how great the Astral Claws are, and as someone rather familiar with Lamenter lore, that name rings a bell... Oh no.

[@Crexman501]

Oh Yeaaah

[@cossack9991]

It seems like your videos are REALLY stepping up in quality. good job

[@draochvar9646]

To be honest, I can't think of any other 40k lore-channel who would go to the extend of comissioning custom artwork.

[@bob_the_barbarian]

"It was Tuesday..." Emperor bless the great Raul Julia. One of the greatest actors of late M2.

[@TheAlterspark]

Lamenters: We have bad luck because we keep getting nearly annihilated. Big E: Counterpoint; you have extremely good luck because you never get completely annihilated.

[@JPLOWMAN2]

You know, I’ve been reading up on the history of the Blood Angels as a Legion cuz I’m trying to write a book, and there does seem to be a point of commonality between the Lamenters and their parent legion, at least as it was before Sanguinius showed up - nobody liked them. I mean to the Lamenters’s credit, their biggest problem was an incredibly convoluted series of unfortunate events. But the original 9th Legion was just plain crazy. They were blood drinking, cannibalistic psychopaths who were so brutal that Rogal Dorn himself called for them to be censored for eating POWs captured during a siege in sight of their comrades on the walls. And with their uncanny ability to reinforce their numbers back to full strength despite getting the worst dregs of humanity as recruits, they seemed to have earned their nickname as the Revenant Legion. So you can imagine how the other Legions would rather just split the scene rather than work with the guys.

[@sadwingsraging3044]

Cowards... Leave then.

[@danieldickson1617]

Arch, if this is to be a series bigger than Vraks please number them in the titles..

[@gerennightstride8364]

Arch, you have no idea how much this early Lore video means to me after the week I have had, Thank you XD

[@robber233]

Just remember this despite all their misfortune, the lamenters are truly heroic. For what forges heroes? If not the ability to preserve through hardship.

[@shawnhardy-lester8496]

Is wrong of me to have always thought the Astral claws being of sons of horus gene stock

[@woaddragon]

No not really, 40k theories video often theorized that many chapters has traitor gene stock.

[@MrMortull]

It's not such a wild theory, just one that very few in the Imperium would countenance. The High Lords and Mechanicus still hold vast reserves of Crusade-Era "traitor" genestock that supposedly has never been touched, and more than a few Chapters (of the Legion/Bellicosa organisation) of the Traitor Legions went rogue and either rejoined the Imperium or outright rebelled against their Primarchs. Between these Loyalist holdouts from the Traitor Legions and the rather murky origins of a worryingly high number of successor Chapters, I'd speculate that as much as a fifth of ALL currently serving Astartes are in fact sons of Traitors. There's just been a lot of administrative fuckery to either conceal or "forget" their origins.

[@phyton9O]

at this point i would not be surprised if the inqusistion used the lamenters as canary to sniff out the bad trouble from regular war.

[@timm2428]

Holds back manly tears as I hear the Lamenters mentioned.

[@Fireontire]

Love having these ¨War-series¨ on in the background while playing something.

[@inctastic]

Me, who has no idea about the Badab war reading some of the comments, repeating "What could possibly go wrong?": "I don't like where this is going."

[@NetMoverSitan]

One White Scars successor chapter, TWO Blood Angels successor chapters (you've covered one of those) and...I'm not sure what the last one has as their Primarch. Considering their gene-seed stability before...THAT happens, they're likely Ultrasmurfs, if that's the case (monotome) All hail the Ultrasmurfs. | 6:05 - Not as bad as the Afriel Strain, but still pretty bad. | 9:10 - They're either Ultrasmurfs or Loyalist Death Guard. | 10:05 - Thank you, General Bison (!) | 12:21 - Other than that they're vulnerable to the Red Thirst and the Black Rage, of course. | 19:26 - KHAN!!! (Echoes) | 20:00 - Not as bad in that regard as the Space Wolves. | Well, they'd need to adjust their tactics to suit their environment...so they're skilled in the art of misdirection, an art that only the Alpha Legion could do better with. | 32:10 - Annoy Orks?! That's not hard! | 35:40 - "You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain." - Harvey Dent, The Dark Knight. Resistance, doesn't mean immunity. | 39:45 - Ah, they fought alongside the Sons of this universe's Bane...possibly something to do with "The Fallen"? | 43:47 - They're Sons of Dorn.

[@aveioacosta371]

Sees Notification: Time to Lament!

[@Limixiz]

FeedTheAlgorithm!!! It's nice to see you back Arch.

[@Pwnicus187]

I keep thinking of danishes and other related breakfast 🥐 type food every time I hear Astral Claws

[@wolfofnowhere]

I have to say I'm loving the music used for this lore series

[@Bikeadelic]

This is what you do best. Long seires in depth videos of 40k lore.

[@sirb_s6190]

So... it's possible that this entire war might be because of the Lamenters cursed luck

[@darkmerc02]

I can’t help but feel like we’re the Lamenters during 2020.