What Happened To Sevatar? - 40K Theories

[@40KTheories]

To the people who are commenting about how the Grey Knight hypothesis is wrong, bear in mind that I do point out as to why such an idea, while interesting, is impossible within this video. This is why watching a video all the way through before commenting is always a good idea :P

[@fallenwelsh]

sevatar is the giant in trayzn's collection that a possible theory

[@kolya7162]

In Konrad Kurze: Night Haunter the Primarch prophecies that Sevatar lives and will eventually turn aside from his father's mistake and begin the 'long path to redemption.' Although Kurze is insane his prophecy for his equerry in a similar passage does indeed come true which lends credence to this as Sevatar's fate, and also explains why he refuses to believe the First Captain is gone in multiple parts of other books after his disappearance.

[@sharpetutor227]

I’m positive Kurze said in one of he’s prophecies that Sevatar dies in battle and Sevatar interrupts him saying wall that’s hardly surprising and don’t tell me more. I don’t see Sevatar bing executed on a ship is much a battle.

[@brendanmuller7301]

@@sharpetutor227 Well it would make sense if he founds the space sharks then dies at some later point

[@malb.4107]

I sincerely hope so. I believe we will find out in the next Siege book, because ADB is writing it.

[@greglewis725]

@@malb.4107 Shoot. We'll find out in 2027 then. 😉

[@Lazrael32]

@@sharpetutor227 he could have metaphorically died. I'm ok with him being the founder of the Chacharadons, but i also think it would be cool if there was another force or legion out there that he founded that we haven't heard of. maybe they are even stalking the nightlords. I dunno. it's up to GW to decide if they want more of the story or not, and the campaign really thrives off of have truths, and unexplained events.

[@ivanharlokin]

There is a cool hint in a short story (The Long Night?) where Sevatar talks about "the eyeless sharks of Nostramo"

[@jeffreypatterson8759]

I just reread the story a week ago and caught that also.

[@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it]

He does so again in Prince of Crows while trapped in his cell on the Dark Angels ship. This is why I am convinced he was redeemed and allowed to form the Charcaradons.

[@WelcomeToDERPLAND]

Not Going to lie, I would love to get a novel revealing that Sevatar has just been patrolling the imperium/galaxy dispensing justice to high priority targets of corrupt and evil officials, sadists, cult leaders, tyranid genestealer patriarchs and what not.

[@angeloace882]

Oh yeah :D upvote for that

[@Gwolfsoun]

+1 Harrumph

[@mrbreck1]

I would get a good laugh at sevatar being cypher. Dark angels saved him so he is redeeming the fallen.

[@WelcomeToDERPLAND]

what the fuck are you going on about you killjoy asshole? Nobody said that the literal evilest space marine chapter in existence should be turned into good guys, we are specifically talking about sevetar, not the whole legion you daft fuck.

[@ImvuAlts]

@Mean Bob If You Really Think That Then Your Not Only An Idiot But Not A True Fan Of The Night Lords. They Were Made To Bring Peace Through Fear Not Torture And Terrorize For The Pleasure Of It. Learn Your Lore Before Commenting Again And Making Yourself Look More Stupid

[@haidaralsadoon6928]

He is what the imperium wants him to be he is ...... batlord

[@BAGELMENSK]

*needs* him to be

[@SonsOfLorgar]

@@BAGELMENSK he is what the Imperium *deserves*

[@alphagonomegarius5068]

@Brakamar, or else! batman is HIS sidekick

[@ian7809]

@@alphagonomegarius5068 Don't disrespect Batman

[@crackedhammer4612]

Honestly idk which one to chose as head canon Sevatar creating the Carcharodons or being one of the original Grey Knight Founders. They’re both so badass

[@UmbraNupe]

Eric Harrison there are hints that they are connected to the nightlords though in the two Carcharodons books.

[@Lazrael32]

@@UmbraNupe the skin and eyes are pretty heavy (though not confirmation of) hints. GW is really about their mysterious legions that are maybe/definitely traitor legions turned loyal. Sharks, Minotaurs, Blood Ravens. though i had previously liked the idea of the ravens being part of the raven guard that were adopted by the blood angels instead of a mysterious traitor legion. but that's just me.

[@atsukunisumeragi1967]

Sevatar's fate was repertoriated in the tome "Secrets of the Dark Angels Chapter", just ask the Fabricator-General.

[@randomcenturion7264]

REPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEENT!

[@hyfryd6677]

He better be alive, GW do the Chaos Undivided legions so damn dirty these days, they need every decent character they can get.

[@greywakez]

Well back in the day us Iron Warriors fans got Honsou. I thought the Night Lords got Talos?

[@ultramarinescaptain3840]

You know when I eventually get started on my Chaos Warband, I'll probably go with Iron Warriors as the main part with Night Lords as a Elite unit. Daemons would be very uncommon, in trade for elite sqauds, and lots of guns and tanks. But that's my list.

[@ИльяЛунев-к6д]

@@greywakez Talos is dead, the new one are Decimus - The New Prophet

[@greywakez]

@@ИльяЛунев-к6д Yeah I've read the series since commenting

[@official_rtsfrmdah1323]

@@greywakez bro came back a year later 😂

[@princeofcrows6502]

I never died! *I just vanished with vindication. Suck it Dark Angels, didn't you know your undergarments are meant to be worn under your armor instead of above it?!* Edit: By the way, love your videos. Definitely one of my favorite KZbinrs on here. 🖤💙

[@darthimperius2865]

i approve of this message

[@darthimperius2865]

@Anzu Wyliei and people called ME crazy

[@DoomStarRequiem]

@@darthimperius2865 when are gonna get your head back and then start tearing the Imperium and thr Traitor legions a new ass.

[@terminatorofbaal7853]

SEVATAR LIVES! * STOMP STOMP* SEVATAR LIVES! * STOMP STOMP*

[@princeofcrows6502]

@@darthimperius2865 you were not crazy, father. They were all blind to the truth that this cesspit of an Imperium allows injustice upon it's own for whatever benefit it may reap. It is too bad they now reap what they sow, for we now come for them.

[@supremeghost7950]

Jago Sevatar: The Frank Castle of 40k.

[@derrabbit7289]

Gruncle Malcador got his paws on him and said, “Boy, you will serve!” And either founded the Carcaradons or made him a Grey Knight

[@dmajor9982]

Wouldn’t it be funny if Cypher turned out to be Sevatar

[@SprockX2]

I literally just had that same thoughts. Or conversely what if the Lion had pulled him aside at one point and gave him a choice to join him based on his martial prowess. Right now he's a knight of the dark angels. Yeah, far fetched but keep your friends close and enemies closer. And let's face it the dark angels can keep a secret.

[@MrJedimedic]

Sevetar is Alpharius.... (wait... that makes zero sense. Carry on.)

[@ryantay9642]

That would have be an epic plot twist.

[@jasonusborne8629]

fuck yeah

[@MrKago1]

@Ethan Tiernan-Lang wouldn't openly displaying psychic power drastically narrow down who it could be? maybe he's careful not to use it. plus consider how much Sevatar hated the warp.

[@ternel]

I like to think he made his way to Terra and died protecting civilians from the Emperor's children as they rampaged across the planet.

[@BinBinBinBinBinBinBinBin]

@Mean Bob Hell of a Gary Stu, gets captured by Dark Angel's, and never heard from again, really Gary Stu-y that is isn't it?

[@danielstephenaguilos9346]

@Dionysus’ Grapes Sigismund isn't a Gary Stu, he's just fucking badass.

[@plasticspoon60]

Could be fulfilling the batman role that conrad was always supposed to fill.

[@majormajorasic]

@Mean Bob Ofcourse not, Conrad was the Boogeyman

[@plasticspoon60]

@Mean Bob goes after naughty people and punishes them for being naughty sounds like batman to me.

[@Xer0sama]

If they want us to think he's dead without showing us a corpse, obviously he isn't.

[@juanpablomontalvo4715]

Xer0sama *looking over at Dorn, Jagati, Leman, Vulcan, Conrad, Corvis* sounds about right *looking back to ferus’s literal decapitated head and sanguinius’s limp and lifeless body*

[@Fordo007]

@@juanpablomontalvo4715 Wouldn't it be ironic if Ferrus and Sanguinius came back instead of all the other missing Primarchs?

[@irishwristwatch2487]

​@@Fordo007 that'd mean we'd get 10,000% more lore for the Iron Hands and I for one would be hyped for both of those books

[@AloneD.Walker]

I hope he was the founder of the Carcharodons Astra. I always love it when a traitor comes back. Be it in one way or another like some founding members of the Grey knights of the sons of the Phoenix. Yes I know officially Dorns sons but come on. That name, color and behavior? Nope loyal Emperor's children.

[@Maxidemt]

Lol never knew about these Sons of the Phoenix 😂 Mr. CAWL surely have done a good job creating heraldry and masking the descendance of these guys

[@ReverseBees]

Eidolon was the best warrior in the emperor's children? Poor Lucius...

[@jackhogg634]

Best overall warrior, lucius is a fantastic swordsman, but he is heavily flawed and ruled by his ego

[@KorpenXIX]

@@jackhogg634 Lucius also got super spanked by Nykona, twise. =)

[@braveheart40kglasgow56]

Eidolon was a beast, Lucius was a great swordsmen but far from the best

[@ReverseBees]

@@jackhogg634 isn't being ruled by your ego par for the course in the emperor's children?

[@jackhogg634]

@@ReverseBees it is, but its detrimental when facing skilled opponents, tho I suppose its counter acted by him being immortal

[@elijahhadley4205]

great way to end the school day by watching some 40k theories i love these videos

[@alphaomega938]

Loken punches Lucius, honorable and cool move by gang culture legion, Lucius considered big crybaby, no one bats an eye Sevatar headbutts Sigismund, LUCKER! Cheap shot! Cheater!

[@sonofjack6286]

Lucius was an arrogant prick, and also look at how he is in 40k. Sigismund however was the 1st captain of the Imperial Fists and he was pretty cool, Sevatar was First Captain of the Night Lords, who were seen as a bunch of psychos.

[@MrKago1]

@@sonofjack6286 to be fair, the Black Templars, which Sigismund founded are also psychos. just not nearly as sadistic. also, Sigismund was an asshole too. Just no where near as bad as Lucius of the Plot Armor.

[@sonofjack6286]

@@MrKago1 Like I said, Sigismund was part of the Imperial Fists, a very highly applauded legion, as for the Black Templars, they're honorable psychos, the Night Lords are murderers and other such criminals, it'd make sense that Sevatar is looked down upon for his victory and methods based on the context of what legions he and Sigismund are from. As for him being rude, I take it that's towards mortals, seeing as most Astartes look down on mortals?

[@MrKago1]

@@sonofjack6286 yeah, the whole looking down on guardsmen who have no power armor, no real reliable infrastructure and have not been genetically altered to feel less pain and fear and who STILL show up to do the grunt work is still being a dick. like I said, not as much as Sevetar who treated most other Astartes just as poorly. Pedro Cantor is proof this attitude is proof that being a dick is a choice. Not saying being harsh on upholding rules or a strict commander is being a dick. I'm saying treating guardsmen like dogs just because they haven't been genetically altered, given the best equipment in the Imperium, the best training, the best support.....you get where I'm going.

[@ultramarinescaptain3840]

@@sonofjack6286 Sevatar is pretty sick though.

[@Karmajoy530]

He’s one of the few that are chosen by malcador to become one of his grey knights. There’s a scene where the chosen are brought before the emperor and he paused at one of the warriors and looks at malcador who simply nods. These chosen abandoned their previous identities entirely and were given entirely new identities. So in a way he is dead, and not dead.

[@bxmully]

Where did u find out about this?

[@Karmajoy530]

@@bxmully so in the short story with sevatar it establishes that he's imprisoned. and it is in one of the last books of the heresy, it might be slaves to darkness, where malcador brings his chosen to a chamber, Loken is there, and the emperor is able to show up to tell them they must go to titan and prepare a new legion. It's during this scene the emperor looks at each of the chosen Astartes, most of whom are wearing helmets, and sort of nods in approval. He stops at one of them, freezes for a second, and looks over to malcador with a surprised expression. Malcador simply nods his head, and the emperor looks back at the helmeted legionary and moves on. Whoever this guy was, he was important enough for the emperor to actually pause and wonder about it, and it had to be someone significant, otherwise why include that passage in the story at all. Its never told who that legionary was, and there all given new names anyway, but we know the first grey knights were psyches, and many were from fallen legions. So my personal theory is that it was sevatar, but we'll never truly know.

[@MiddleAgedGuy73]

I'd like to believe The Prince of Crows has more stories coming. I'd also like to see clone Fulgrim get more time in the sun though... Ifs and fifths and all that I guess :)

[@generalnawaki]

YAS NIGHT LORDS! AVE DOMINUS NOX! hail the prophet, hail thee talos of the 10th company first claw! Sons of our Father, stand in midnight clad. We bring the night!

[@terminatorofbaal7853]

ASHES OF NOSTROMO. WE HUNT ON THE BLACK STARS.

[@elsieoliver1671]

In midnight clad, we are coming for u

[@gadzilla6664]

Nice! I've been looking forward to this video ever since you said you were working on it in a response to a question I asked you guys in your podcast. Love it. You're right, Sevatar is probably long dead, but I still love the idea of him somehow returning to reunite the Night Lords so they can tear the galaxy a new one in the name of his own brand of justice. Starting with the Night Lords warbands who have fallen to chaos worship of course. AVE DOMINUS NOX!!!

[@a.d.3352]

I still think that sevetar founded the Carcharodons but put some elements of ashen claw in the chapter so the theory is still strong in my personal opinion.

[@wandererdragon]

My headcanon is close to yours. I believe Sevatar escaped (or was given pardon by one of the Primarchs on condition of keeping vigil on outskirts of the Imperium). He traveled to the Ghoul stars region were he was accepted into Ashen Claws chapter for his martial prowess and common way of waging war. At some point Carcharodons split from Ashen Claws and I believe Sevatar was leading them. This explanations fits the lore of Carcharodons of serving for 10 millenia and having chimeric Raven Guard and Night Lords gene seed. However, if this is true it doesn't explain why the first Chapter Master of Carcharodons changed his primary weapon from power-glave to two lightning claws - chain fists. Changing old habits is hard, but not impossible. There could be another possibility, that Sevatar gained control over the Ashen Claws chapter, and Carcharodons are those marines that couldn't stand a marine not related to others by blood as the head of their force, so they split out. The reason Carcharodons have chimeric gene seed is that apothetecaries of Ashen Claws gathered Sevatar's gene-seed, and used it on some of the recruits. Is Sevatar still alive? Who knows?

[@greywakez]

@@wandererdragon Yeah I doubt Sevatar is Tyberos as Tyberos is the size of a primarch. Though he isn't the first chapter master. The chief Librarian Te Kahurangi is stated to have known the first Carcharadon, the first chapter master.

[@I-am-Ranb0]

GreySiege Tyberos is most definitely not the size of a primarch.

[@greywakez]

@@I-am-Ranb0 He is, at least in terminator armor. He dwarfs normal marines.

[@Rosenberg1990]

@@I-am-Ranb0 In Outer Dark a few tech priests confuse him as a "primarch sized statue" because he was standing so still. The art with him standing infront of the one armed Mantis Warrior shows this perfectly. He most definitely makes other astartes look small.

[@jakeholley563]

Curze said he would die in battle in the book prince of crows and he was right about himself and Talos

[@ericlobes]

This was a good video. But you forgot a key detail, concrad has an ability when he meets you to see when and where you die. When he reunited with his legion, in his primarch book in the primarch series, he makes an off hand comment that serveritad found an honorable and good death far off. I don’t think that meant he died in combat supporting his PRIMARCH or the legion, I got the impression he returned to the imperium and served them.

[@derekdrake8706]

(This is one of those times where it's up to your headcanon) I think he's a grey knight. So.. The person we know as Sevatar is as good as dead. His body and soul still serve Mankind in the darkest corners of the Galaxy.

[@derekdrake8706]

@@ericharrison7518 Time becomes irrelevant and anything but linear in The Warp, you can't rely on "before" or "after" so anything is possible.

[@coltonzavitz8346]

Eric is right here, the identity of each of the original grand masters is known. Sevatar was not one of them, regardless of your warp fuckery defense.

[@dziri3330]

Might not have needed to be a lord of the grey knights. Could just as easily have been a brother. They leave a lot open ended for us the community to make up our own mind about what happened

[@40KTheories]

It's almost as if I point out why the Grey Knight idea wouldn't work in this very video, or something... x3

[@NemesisMarine01]

Id like to think he is still alive. He's like the 40k equivalent to Darth Maul, awesome warrior but not really focused on by GW.

[@daemonofdecay]

He has a condo outside Miami. He’s dating a nice girl from New York and takes line dancing on Tuesdays.

[@leeboy26]

He lives in Florida? Suddenly the Eye Of Terror doesn't look too bad...

[@BohdanKaiba]

Loved your cossover with Baldermort on Sunday, it was awesome, hope you guys make more!

[@40KTheories]

Oh is that video out? I didn't realise it was done already xD

[@BohdanKaiba]

@@40KTheories Yeah it came out Sunday morning US time, it was fantastic, it was great to see so many lore tubers who I love come together and make it! Got really excited when I saw you were in it!

[@Izzy777-_-]

@@BohdanKaiba What video was it?

[@Big_E_Soul_Fragment]

Dark Angels made him "repent"

[@StrawberryBastard]

Asmodai make him repent

[@youroverlord6937]

ASMODAI

[@darkassasion]

REPENT!!!!!!!

[@Nyctophora]

They seem to have a lot of trouble even making their own repent ... ;)

[@RADINNS]

Asmoda is still young and harsh, he would die and not be the greatest Interrogator Chaplain, most known maybe, but nowhere near Molochia

[@rsiraistlin2473]

If hes long dead, he got done more dirty than Shadrak Meduson.

[@michaelkimberling7307]

I recently read the book where he unlocked his abilities it nearly killed him when he did. He was bleeding from his eyes and nose if I recall correctly just before he passed out.

[@lonewanderer1328]

Michael Kimberling big ouch

[@jonahtexhex2835]

Listen to the audiobook The Long Night(Created after the Prince of Crows novel) & there is more info to fill in the what was going on.

[@omnighast2054]

he seeked out justice for a little girl he is only good in my book

[@richbattaglia5350]

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[@Archangel1994]

In the novel Konrad Curze: The Night Haunter, Curze makes a comment about it not being the time to kill their brothers, foretelling the Heresy. When Jago asks him about this, Curze coldly asks “I can tell you how you die if you wish....do you want to know? It is far far away from here, in the endless dark” This, for me at least, is further evidence of Sevetarion being the Carcharodons forgotten one.

[@thecrtf4953]

I truely think he still lives and in a way serves humanity, fighting to purge the cruelty and evil that taints it, his own form of justice

[@sessy01]

Furthest from being loyal to the absolute authority that is the Imperium like a criminal would be but reformed enough to live under an axiom of "Be a dick, and I'm coming after you" like how the Night Lords were initially meant to be utilized.

[@ryantay9642]

He's alive. He is on the Hive World of Goth'ham fighting an Eldar Harlequin named 'Johkar'.

[@Burlaphen]

You have such great quality videos, I don't see why you'r content isn't popular! Thanks again and keep up the awesome job!

[@Colenelnelson]

The person who coined the phrase Death to the False Emperor, ending up Grand Master of the Grey Knights seems like a fitting irony.

[@gamechanger8908]

As much of an irony as Lorgar being responsible for the Imperial Cult, and being labelled as a Daemon(and not a traitor) in the Imperial Cult's Mythology.

[@AximandTheCursed]

I think we should adopt the sensible approach that the Inquisition took regarding Lord Commander Eidolon: Without irrefutable evidence, it would be a mistake to declare him dead!

[@ConWWW]

That first dislike is a salty dark angel

[@40KTheories]

@Eric Just like you seemingly ignored a pretty large amount of this video, eh? ;) Considering I pointed out that Fel Zharost was a founding member of the Grey Knights instead of Sevatar at around 11:57, which you conveniently ignored before going on a commenting tirade :P Especially since the purpose of these videos is to: Present hypothesis Present evidence to support said hypothesis Present counter-argument Present evidence to support counter-argument. Which is exactly what I did in this video :)

[@leeboy26]

@@ericharrison7518 Calm down, Azrael. I hear there's some Fallen hiding in the youtube comments section.

[@spacecowboy2836]

Love your video's keep up the good work

[@SigfridSWE]

This is so weird... I have been thinking about Jago Sevatarion the whole day yesterday... Reading and thinking... And then, when I wake up... This video are released 😅 Awesome 🤘🏻 🤯

[@davidh7177]

Weird* and Whole* I'm the Grammar Nazi of Scotland and even I get ot wrong sometimes! No offence Xxx

[@morgyrmz]

@@davidh7177 it*

[@davidh7177]

@@morgyrmz ah shit, swings and roundabouts I guess 🤭🤭🤭

[@morgyrmz]

@@davidh7177 I'm just taking the piss man, nothing by it 😆.

[@davidh7177]

@@morgyrmz I know! It's this old fashioned text all inflection is lost, unless you go mental with bold, italic and the rest!

[@sonofjack6286]

3:28 I saw a little comic of these two, in it Altani has hair that covers her eyes and Sevatar ends up acting like an crazy calling himself "something something nightmare" I don't remember it exactly, and Altani stays that this "nightmare" could do with a nap, I ship it.

[@MiddleAgedGuy73]

I love these videos. My hope is a Black Library author watches this and says "what a fantastic idea, I think I'll write a book about that theory".

[@captainnuno]

I think the incertitude and myth surrounding him will be too juicy for GW not to try to capitalise.

[@andrewsilver9730]

Azmodai respects his need for justice trains him to root out fallen. He becomes cypher

[@juanpablomontalvo4715]

Andrew Silver Isn’t cypher a dark angel?

[@andrewsilver9730]

@@juanpablomontalvo4715 o yeah baby. That would be the biggest secret

[@chainbound6816]

"Sevatar" is long dead as "night lord" but reborn as Paul "The giant chainsaw wielding" lumberjack and plus family on some extreme far back unknown planet. Where nobody knows about him, that goes missing ever hundred years to be persumed dead. Then return with newer name and persona. Hahahah

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

Excellent work. Cheers for the upload.

[@Jagrofes]

My favourite bit about Sevatar is that he likes to refer to the Other Primarchs as “Uncle”.

[@monkeylugz]

Hopefully he ended up a grey knight ur theory on it is spot on gd work as always!!

[@monkeylugz]

@@ericharrison7518 apologies brother :) But i still like the idea of it being Savatar :)

[@grimtastic6356]

Love your videos!

[@chrisfrombeyond4240]

I like the Grey Knight theory. Ima just roll with that.

[@kharnthebetrayer181]

It's confirmed in one of the latest horus heresy novels the the Grey Knight isn't sevatar, its the fel zhaorst dude

[@Nyctophora]

"Let's see what's in my recommendations today ... :O *SEV* "

[@obadiahvonhammerstein4553]

Hello and thank you for once again putting out a short bio and audio clips concerning one of the more unique Astartes from the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy! I personally got into the Night Lords after reading about Zso Sahaal and Talos "Soul Hunter" in the Novel Lord of the Night by Simon Spurrier and the Night Lords Omnibus. But I digress from the main focus this comment. The fate of Jago Sevatarion. I do not know what ultimate fate he experienced. Sadly I have yet to read The Long Night by Aaron Dembski-Bowden. (Do not skin me yet 8th Legion I am not done speaking yet!) Where was I? Oh yes! From the audio clip you gave us at 13:24 to 14:06 the testimony that he struggled to find a focus or clarity, coupled with his emerging psychic powers seem to suggestion an overlooked direction. The pursuit and annihilation of these monsters and aliens being a focusing point for Jago that he had not had in years. Much like Talos decided to start winning the Long War his way, after his Gene seed and wounds were tended to On Hell's Iris, I believe that Jago would pursue the course that would enable him to see his goals through, just like Talos did by gathering possible initiates and salvaging Terminator Armor from Space Hulks and Loyalist Chapters. As such I find it unlikely that he would then choose to ignore this clarity by going back to fight the Loyalist Legions in a conflict that would see Humanity weakened and the various Xeno species of the Galaxy granted time to rebuild and rearm. This event DID in fact happen in the period of history known as the War of the Beast, where the Orks somehow manage to come back from their defeat of Ullanor and not only make the High Lords of Terra almost surrender, but also develop their own version of Primarch in the guise of a Prime Ork where the Orks in question were black skinned behemoths that managed to see the Imperial Fists Chapter wiped out! For crying out loud, it took Vulkan, Primarch of the Salamanders to get some backbone into the High Lords of Terra and even he struggled to slay just one of these Prime Orks. He had to immolate himself and the Ork in and explosion or reactor ( I forget which. ) to kill the freak. I have difficulty accepting the possibility that after everything Jago went through that he would just up and join the Loyalists in hunting down demons when Xenos population seemed to call out for justice and due punishment. I believe that Jago went out into the realms of space where these true foes of Mankind lurk and proceeded to begin their final extermination. Whether he received some if any aid from Loyalist, Traitor, or Night Lords Legion it will likely never be known. One thing that does puzzle me though about this possibility is Why the Night Haunter would ask where Jago is. In one of the books, possibly Konrad Kurze, Night Haunter by Guy Haley, the Primarch tells Jago that he knows the manner of death that Jago will experience and inquires if he would like to know. Jago refuses and the matter appears to be abandoned. Which brings greater confusion to me when Night Haunter would later ask where he is, which makes no sense to me since he Foresaw Jago's death. The only two theories that grant me any reasonable conclusions are that Haunter was losing his sanity and was forgetting his memories, or that Jago Sevatarion managed to change his fate, avoid his Father's sight, or had already died. Problem is that I cannot imagine Any Loyalist Legion resisting the chance to tell any Night Lords they come across that Jago is dead by their hand. Well that was my opinion on the Fate of Jago Sevatarion, 1st Captain of the Night Lords Legion, Atrementar and Equerry to The Night Haunter. The true Champion and Exemplar of what the Night Lords were. Thanks again and good night! It took me an hour to type this all and I need sleep! I am only human after all!

[@jamiecunningham8394]

Would like to think that the Lion spoke to him many times during the journey through the ruinstorm and saw something in Sevatar that convinced and granted him and other prisoners like Sevatar their freedom and formed a chapter under the guise of the first.

[@exactinmidget92]

15:27, do you want power fist, lightning claws or chain fists? Chapter Master - YES!!!!

[@donperez8774]

A data slate containing a vox recording, covered with warp stink and blood, addressed to Inquisitor Remleiz (Tech priests identified voice as Night Lords Primarch Konrad Curze after comparison with other artifacts; yet the slate is mysteriously dated to 30K era ...) “You talk about my main man and NOT mention that I gave him the option of knowing his end? In some Guy's book, I hinted I saw him out in the great dark void, and would tell him more if he wanted. He shirked away. 'I thought so,' I said, or something like that. I wasn’t in a good mood that day. (Mutters: when am I ever?). “So … you think he’s out there, spinning in a suspended animation coffin like I was, in the void of space? Maybe. A great warrior deserves an honorable death or formidable incarceration, not a simple execution like some menial panicky grunt who grabs the wrong attention of a commissar. Eh, maybe I'm sentimental on the subject. Ha, me sentimental. (Giggles). “I was tempted to tell Sevatar his fate anyway, you know, but I held back. The few interesting ones in my idiot-filled legion … I knew their deaths. Talos, Shang, even Sev … best to let fate teach than their crazy father (sneering, as if talking to someone else: ‘Got that from YOU, Dad.’). By the way, you want to know why I didn’t garrote that weasel Gendor Skraivok, for poisoning my legion and in a way forcing my judgment on Nostramo? When you hear Yakety Sax in the background of fate, which is busy curb stomping the guy in the groin repeatedly in his pathetic life, gives him a brief bit of glory all to be dashed in a pivotal moment resulting in a laughable death, then resumes kicking him for millennia in the warp, and his moronic actions on Pharos jeopardize his ‘demonic ascension’ thousands of years later … how can I top that with Mercy and Forgiveness?”

[@LostChrisB]

I will stick with what his precognition primarch told him, 'You die in battle Sev.' Conrad could not see more than that and Sevatar sure as hell didn't want to know more than that. The final stand for the first captain of a legion of psychopaths has yet to be written, but it will be bloody and I have no doubt many fell before he did.

[@DoomStarRequiem]

Ahh nothing like the company of your fellow eighth legion fanbois. Stand in midnight clad.

[@TK199999]

It could also be that Sevatar encountered the loyalist Ashen Claws, who left the renegades. To continue their service to the EoM in exile, but not as marauders like the Ashen Claws had become. Meaning that Sharks are a Terran Raven Guard successor chapter. Who's first Chapter Master was Sevatar a Night Lord, if that means the few unknown loyalist Night Lords joined the Chapter. Or if Sevatar gene-seed stayed in chapter as a handful of Sharks being Night Lord rather than Raven Guard as Sevatar gene-seed was harvested after his death and used in again a handful of Sharks over the millennia. Though most likely if Sevatar was part of the first Sharks, as just a memeber or founder/First Chapter Master. His Night Lord gene-seed died with him and the Sharks are all from loyalist stock.

[@orestislazanakis4960]

Let me try to help: - Sevatar finds the Ashen Claws. - Then leads some to split off of them, becoming the Carcharodons. - He is their current Chief Librarian, "Te Kahurangi", which means "The Blue" in Maori, and who is a Night Lord, the oldest Shark. - Te is sent (not exiled) to the outer void at the behest of the Forgotten One. The Sharks are also exiled (not sent) by the Forgotten One. - Therefore, the Forgotten One is not one, but two merged into one. These two are Corax and Konrad.

[@valerievo2195]

Wishful thinking: Sevatar could possibly be the "forgotten one". The founder of the Carcharodon Astra

[@georgestauber2636]

I think he went on to found the charchadons astra. The space sharks. In that story he dreamed of the dark between the stars. Its also possible he got "recruited" by the Grey Knights.

[@IsAcRafT]

It would be great if he could have been spared and serving the Imperium as a black shield of Deadwatch, saving people's lives in the far fringes of the galaxy fighting against Tyranids, Orkz, Dark Eldar and even Traitor Astartes.

[@NemFX]

Not sure what your voice did at the beginning, but I totally heard Walrus Heresy, and I am entirely interested in seeing that.

[@jeffers1985]

I'm hoping hes alive as he would be one of the very few who could unite the legion. I hope GW will one day do something with the Night Lords as they are unique to the other traitors as they don't totally dedicate themselves to the chaos gods but merely use it as a tool unlike the world eaters/word bearers etc.

[@117Haseo]

I like to interpret Curz's comment even in madness his knowledge of Sevatar being still alive through his own warp powers.

[@booradley6832]

7:48 "the most practical and pragmatic course of action for the Dark Angels to take" This made me laugh. They dont understand the meaning of those words. Instead of, like every other chapter, taking part in the scouring and admitting that some of their legion turned traitor(Just like some of the traitor legions had loyalists) and going back to a normal life they would go on to spend 10,000 years running around like complete schizophrenics worried that someone might find out that they (Like every other legion) had some brothers turn traitor. And then instead of just taking control of the Imperium during its darkest hour their primarch went to his room in secret to listen to my chemical romance for a few thousand years and didnt tell anyone where he went because he was so upset. The idea of practical and pragmatic to the Dark Angels is ridiculous and you would probably be executed on the spot for suggesting anything rational to them at any time.

[@BigRed40TECH]

Long Dead. Not every story has a satisfying conclusion.

[@40KTheories]

Yeah, this does appear to be the most likely possibility.

[@jonahtexhex2835]

@@40KTheories When there's no body & the Prince of Crows has been declared "dead" before. Even with Konrad saying he was going to have a death long time or so into the future or so. Konrad's visions are of a following fate. Aka sits around for his assassination being a fatalist. In the universe of Warhammer 40K a twist n turn, surprising events can happen.

[@81hewp]

Ave Dominus Nox.

[@auraenchanted2503]

chaos thoery: ezekiel is sevatar and that he is jsut so incredibly jaded by his former life. keeping him would have been an incredibly strong tactical move. it explains much, ezekiel is incredibly powerful and skilled at mental warfare as seen in the audio drama holder of the keys. it also explains how he knows so much about caliban lost. keeping him frozen in cryosleep and awakening him much later on. and why the demons seem so interested in him as seen in the eye of ezekiel

[@mikewaterfield3599]

Im calling it he is not Tyberos. He IS the forgotten one, founder of the Chacaradon Astra. For they are NOT your friend but your enemies have far more to fear from them than you do.

[@sevatarlives185]

One of the great things about the Night Lords is their ambiguity, morally, politically, intellectually etc. Every POV character in the Legion has a different idea of who they were at first, what they became and what they should be now. Sevatar himself is emblematic of this- some authors treat him as a charismatic, wise-cracking grimdark adventurer, others as a psychopathic tabula rasa who only smiles at jokes because he dimly remembers that is how he should react. Having a "definitive" answer to what happened him would nail him down to a fate that could never, ever live up to his potential. "Sevatar Lives!" is a slogan that any faction of the VIIIth can use, even the barely mentioned Loyalists and that is as it should be. No definite ending, no formal epitaph. He should just vanish into the shadows, like an 80s movie villain (or doomed hero for that matter) who might, just might be back to fuck up your life any day now.

[@gunslinger1911a1]

I don't think the Dark Angels would have bothered shooting him after he surrendered again. It was assumed he was killed in a space battle, but I think he probably survived, was snagged by Malcadore who seemed to be everywhere in those harrowing, dark days. Then told, if he wanted to make up for his foolishness, then he'd take some warriors cast off and head to the far side of the galaxy. Where he joined with the Ashen Claws of whom, besides Horus, he would have been well acquainted with before Corax showed up. Then they all kinda melded together and became the Charcaradons. He might still breathe the air of the Emperor's realms, but if he does, he's likely long retired or the Unseen Chapter Master, as we're actually not sure if the "red wake" is actually the Chapter Master.

[@Zretgul_timerunner]

He sounds like someone that was chosen to become one of the first greyknight willing or otherwise

[@bubger]

I feel like, as with a lot of important but unaccounted for characters, he's alive. I cant see the writers at GW just unceremoniously killing such a major character in a jail cell offscreen.

[@jonahtexhex2835]

Your patron god might be messing around with the writers at GW, but then again Iscandor Keyon really doesn't entertain glaring into the possible futures. Usually according to him a useless afterthought at best nuisance at worse.

[@davidh7177]

Sometimes it's an ignominious death you need. Executed for crimes against the Imperium. Blam! I'm too tired to type at the moment

[@hellerdjoplup2652]

Him becoming grey knight would be extremely interesting.

[@placeholdername3818]

Interesting but disappointing. I don't want to see him in that grey armor

[@judogrant04]

Be cool if he was adapted in some from as Cypher. Or maybe a captain or part of the fallen rebellion. Or maybe he would help The Lion or part of his troops at the rebellion of Caliban thus gaining some trust by the dark angles.

[@Gyrannon]

Few other possibilities: - He Joined the Black Shields - He escaped yet again, but became a Renegade Kurze was well known to be a seer, driven insane by it, and everything he saw did in indeed come to pass. If Sevatar really was dead, then why would that be the one thing that Kurze would be wrong about? He has to be alive. And the Grey Knight theory is still possible, just say he's someone else. I saw someone mention that he could have joined the Dark Angels, but frankly that sounds like an even more extreme impossibility, just given their hunt for the Fallen and that even if one of their own does repent, the best they could hope for is execution. If they won't allow traitors of their own legion rejoin them them, why the hell would they allow a traitor from a different legion join their ranks? And letting him start his own chapter despite being a traitor, that I also highly doubt. If he rejoined the Loyalists, then it has to be either the Grey Knights or the Black Shields. But if he didn't rejoin the Loyalists, then he likely escaped elsewhere, probably even took on a different name for all we know.

[@konobuzoggu239]

"already, you exalt me for my triumphs, when i ask only that you remember for my treacheries", makes it sound like almost a certain thing that Khyron was a traitor that switched sides at some point of the Heresy

[@theganjacologist2819]

The thumb nail picture is badass!

[@alexwest2514]

Psyker? Captured? Bad Guy? Dudes been sacrificed to the Emperor

[@rustkarl]

One teeny tiny little nitpick. Talos last name is Valcoran not Valcorian.

[@40KTheories]

Whoops, my bad.

[@rustkarl]

40K Theories No worries. It’s an understandable mistake, it’s just that Valcorian sounds like the Sith Emperor in Star Wars the old republic.

[@cassidywoodliff]

Okay so I just finished reading Lion: Son of the forest and I have a theory. Don’t keep reading of you want to avoid very minor spoilers for the book. There is a character in the book named Lohoc who claims to be a fallen dark angel astarties in ramshackle armor who refuses to take of his helmet. Even when the Lion says he never remembers a fallen by that name, and asks him to remove his helmet he refuses. But his companions claim that he has been hunting the enemies of humanity since they found him. I know it’s a little bit of a stretch, but since we don’t know the fate of Sevetar, maybe he was thrown into the warp storm during the battle of Caliban and took up the name Lohoc when he was thrown back into the material plane. He can’t take his helmet off and no one recognizes his name because if he did they’d know who he really was, and the Lions forgiveness may not extend that far.

[@NetMoverSitan]

If Konrad Curze is fiction's 2nd most horrific version of Batman, we could call Sevatar the 40K Red Hood. | 1:39 - Yeah, precognition wasn't that helpful to his Primarch. | 8:18 - (monotone) All hail the Ultrasmurfs. | 10:54 - Blame Lorgar! | 12:32 - They sound more like a mix of Night Lords and Raven Guard.

[@giovannibarbato4558]

What If Sevatar became one of the guardians of the Black Library? Considering his hatred for Chaos he fitted such a role quite well.

[@asafusubov696]

Where in fact he will end up being in the collection of one not so prominent necron.

[@v10l3t40]

I think it'd be amazing if it was revealed he was a member of the Carcharodons, it would really fit him

[@revandfriends8817]

Bet he is chilling with Malal

[@idkwhatimdoing7264]

MALAL IS NOT CANON

[@Ghoul7494]

Ive been waiting for him... 😊

[@DackJaniels51111]

I cannot think of anything more terrifying than a underhanded Astartes.

[@braveheart40kglasgow56]

Sevatar was a great character, my top 3

[@eichler721]

Sevetar, Ahriman and Raldoron are my favorite 1st company commanders from the Great Crusade

[@Tucker0603]

You could say....."HE WOKE UP TO JUSTICE!!!"

[@jakeengland1430]

Dude I love you but please please please make your intro a little quieter it doesn't have to be a different song nothing like that just for the love of god it scares the shit out of me when im not expecting it 😂

[@badgamemaster]

If Sevatar was'nt killed by the Dark Angels and escaped, he could have found the banished Raven Guards and founded the Carcharodons with them... but sadly I fear that he is just going to get killed off before the Horus Heresy is over or maybe even of page. GW and BL seems not to want to use loyal traitors in Space Marine chapters background stories, just look at Revuel Arvida and the Silver Skulls.

[@rosskwolfe]

I just listened to the audioplay where he made friends with Altani last week.

[@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD]

Which one was it? Most Dark Angel's books are "Heresy Tier".

[@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD]

i.warosu.org/data/tg/img/0491/03/1472692009604.jpg There's a link

[@bionetik]

How is it called? I would like to listen to that as well

[@BlackpowderJo]

ADB himself said that Sevatarion didn't survived past the great scouring, enche he didn't die on Terra, but we will have to wait the sweet time of the author for know Jago's fate.

[@technomancer5025]

Balderdash, he is now Space Batman.