Billions of people around the world are trapped by threats of violence and death by a religion so fragile that it has to be protected from criticism in any and every facet or it will self destruct. I have to believe that many “Muslims” already know this and have rejected Islam privately but cannot do so publicly because of the punishment for leaving Islam. May the one true God give them courage to stand up and leave Islam and it’s false prophet.
@medicalmisinformation Жыл бұрын
"Its" not "it's." Amen.
@grandliferevivalcoach5514 Жыл бұрын
The Bible warns us that we may be killed for our beliefs.
@fleebogazeezig6642 Жыл бұрын
The “self destruct” part is especially accurate.
@leka676511 ай бұрын
It's the cardinal sin of Pride.
@johmad98934 ай бұрын
leave before you end up in HELL
@ravindraju1 Жыл бұрын
One of the best video from Jay Smith. Full of complete historical information.
@AAA-q3f4j Жыл бұрын
YOU MUST BE VERY GULLIBLE to think that this is historical information. 😅🤣😂
@kumarg3598 Жыл бұрын
@@AAA-q3f4j his criticisms for the quran is historically accurate. Its the significance of those criticisms that you disagree with. Otherwise, you would have given an example.
@AAA-q3f4j Жыл бұрын
@@kumarg3598 LISTEN TO WHAT JAY SAYS; ''They gathered together all the Qur'ans from the 29 other Qira'at readings and threw them into the Nile River, and sank them…thinking that would get rid of them…''' NOW LISTEN AGAIN Jay denying what he said - THE LIAR!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX_HnaqYqq-dqa8
@melindayoseph7224 Жыл бұрын
@@AAA-q3f4jare you have any source??😂😂😂
@AAA-q3f4j Жыл бұрын
@@melindayoseph7224 We got tons of sources.
@truthmatters7573 Жыл бұрын
This is the single best video you have made on this topic so far! Absolutely phenomenal presentation. Very comprehensive and very useful. This will be my go to resource for pointing people to. 😁
@kumarg3598 Жыл бұрын
Its 99.9% the same as last time. Why is this one better? Why not talk about recent archaeology? I would love it if he talked about cruxification.
@truthmatters7573 Жыл бұрын
@@kumarg3598 it is more succinct and comprehensive and it is better structured. You could get most of this from watching different videos by Jay, but there is nonsingle video that covers all this ground in such a well structured way.
@kumarg3598 Жыл бұрын
@@truthmatters7573 ok...fair point. I just feel jay is beating a dead horse. Its like watching thr globe trotters beat the generals for 1000th time.
@truthmatters7573 Жыл бұрын
@@kumarg3598 Jay has chosen to be popularizer on this issue, so he will pump out videos and cover much of the same ground for people new to the discussion and a lot of people actually need to hear this a few times before they start taking it seriously. Especially muslims. This is not and will never be a channel that focuses exclusively on the cutting edge of academic research into the issue. This channel is just a tool to introduce people into the discussion and motivate them to look into it. New details will be added from time to time as they are uncovered, but you have to understand that only so much of dr. Jay's time can be spent researching, cuz he has got a very busy schedule speaking and teaching.
@defenderoftruth3212 Жыл бұрын
@@truthmatters7573 ... Jay Smith doesn't do the researching. He just rides on the researched works of other people, and floated as if it is his own. In other words, he is a credit-grabber. Or a fraud. -09-29-23
@paul-assiddiq-001 Жыл бұрын
Just beautiful 👍✨ Each time it gets better and more powerful.
@rizwanjohn64 Жыл бұрын
God bless you sir, jay
@bluesky45299 Жыл бұрын
Quran (only scripture with 100% accuracy/preservation) says Allah is “Al-Ahad”(one/indivisible).Philosophically, It is impossible for 3 distinct perfections to exist simultaneously. Father (Perfection 1/distinct1) =Son (Perfection 2/distinct2)=idolatry.This is due to addition of two extra perfections that are Co-equal/Co-eternal&distinct with Allah(the most Exalted). Not just the Quran, but also the old/New Testament textually establish tauheed(monotheism). So, then why believe in trinity and associate two imaginary parts to Allah(one/indivisible/Self-Sufficient/All-Loving)? How could your love/worship be undivided/exclusive for Allah(the most Exalted) when there are two other equally unique/perfect entities to adore? The verses of bible used by trinitarians are extremely vague and require hard interpretation to extract the understanding that Father/Son/Holy Ghost are Co-equal/Co-Eternal&distinct.
@annemurphy9339 Жыл бұрын
The god of islam is so limited and cannot exceed the boundaries set by Yehovah God for man. The true Elohim Creator God Yehovah isn’t limited by the confirmation es of silly mortal clay. He is one God in three distinct persons, the triune Godhead.
@bluesky45299 Жыл бұрын
@@annemurphy9339 you said” he is one god in 3 distinct person? Are those 3 distinct person perfect/absolute? Can you prove textually where does old/New Testament state that Father/son/Holy Spirit are co- equal , go-eternal& distinct? Perfection by definition is “ Al-ahad”(one/indivisible)
@annemurphy9339 Жыл бұрын
@@bluesky45299 Who does allah pray to? How is the piece of black stone, venerated and kissed and attributed with Yehovah God’s ability to forgive sins, not an idol? How is it that muhammad, a human being, has blasphemy laws for insulting him yet there are no blasphemy laws for the crescent moon god allah, and how can anyone blaspheme a mere mortal?
@bluesky45299 Жыл бұрын
@@annemurphy9339 Islam is dependent upon two sources: Quran& Hadith. When you say Muslims worship black stone, please provide evidence for such disgusting idolatry from Quran/Hadith. Again, when you say there are no blasphemy laws for insulting Allah(the most exalted) m, please site your evidence from Quran/Hadith. This is completely false. Quran says:”there is nothing like Allah”. Quran says “Allah does not beget nor is he begotten”. Central doctrine of Islam is:there is nothing worthy of worship except Allah, muhammad(peace be upon him) is the messenger/slave of Allah.” Your statement regarding black stone/blasphemy is completely false.
@StephenCowley001 Жыл бұрын
This is the first time I've heard of "Aramaic dots" (1.11.00). I hope we learn more!
@hectormanagey9354 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much Dr Jay Smith.
@samuelflores1419 Жыл бұрын
As always great job Dr Jay! God bless you and your ministry!
@chrispaige8880 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Dr. Jay, this was an amazing presentation - anyway we can get the presentation? Thanks!
@yajujmajuj1739 Жыл бұрын
Wow...simply amazingly detailed
@bcfc18751 Жыл бұрын
The internet is a gift from God… to be used to seek the truth!! Without lies islam dies… praying for you both and your families! ✝️🙏🏼🏴🇺🇸🇬🇧⛪️💪🏼
@Amigos1993 Жыл бұрын
God bless you Dr. Jay Smith
@sandytatham3592 Жыл бұрын
That was an amazing and very comprehensive presentation!!! Thank you, Jay...🙏
@EndingSimple6 ай бұрын
very valuable to have compiled all your findings in one comprehensive youtube. Thank you.
@polokucoch8112 Жыл бұрын
Just incredible!! The presentation was so sound!!
@DanielApologetics Жыл бұрын
That was a great presentation 👏
@oleo.stimes6525 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic compilation. Also, I'm looking forward to your interactions with 'Saint' Murad when his translation of the Qur'an is available.
@arwandajunior1122 Жыл бұрын
Dr jay you are phenomenal brother all hands up for you ❤️❤️❤️
@Bebe777333 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work!
@toddbeamer6131 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation.
@nonononowaay6295 Жыл бұрын
16:18 Everything made of silver use for trading is called dirham and dinar for gold. In the Quran, the ruler of Egypt during Joseph's time is said to be the "king"; the ruler during the time of Moses is said to be "pharaoh", without a definite article. The title "pharaoh" began to be used to refer to rulers of Egypt with Thutmose III in 1479 BCE, about 20 years after Joseph's death. In the biblical story of Joseph, "king" (Hebrew: Melekh) and "pharaoh" are used interchangeably in Genesis 39 to 41. Quranic Joseph was live in the era od Dynasty 18, Thutmose II ca. 1492-1479 B.C. "In the final days of Egypt new kingdom (1570-1070 BC) non-coin form of silver shaped like rings and gold pieces shaped like sheep centuries were exchanged before the minting coins out different metals. Silver was much more scarcely than gold in Ancient Egypt, the ancient Egyptian society had many currencies and coins but after the foundation of the Ptolemaic kingdom, an enforced policy of a single currency was established." Please dont mix biblical and quranic story. Edit..... The bible actually refer the ruler of Egypt at the time of Joseph as Pharaoh. Suppose to be King. And Joseph was thirty years old when he stood before Pharaoh king of Egypt. And Joseph went out from the presence of Pharaoh, and went throughout all the land of Egypt. - Genesis 41:46 And Joseph placed his father and his brethren, and gave them a possession in the land of Egypt, in the best of the land, in the land of Rameses, as Pharaoh had commanded. - Genesis 47:11
@truthmatters7573 Жыл бұрын
Depends on your timeline. If you go with the late date, then it checks out.
@hereweare9096 Жыл бұрын
The word king is used in the Bible for the Egyptian ruler.
@nonononowaay6295 Жыл бұрын
@@hereweare9096 the quran acurately differ the timeline when The Egypt Kingdom using the ruler title from "King to Pharaoh". In Joseph story quran using "King" In Moses story Quran Using "Pharaoh".
@hereweare9096 Жыл бұрын
@@nonononowaay6295 In the earliest documents of Egypt, the word apparently designated the royal palace and in course of time came to apply to the head of government, the king.
@nonononowaay6295 Жыл бұрын
@@hereweare9096 they said GOD Reveal Quran To Correct "Blurry" History in previous GOD Holy Book. Right now im study Abraham and Sarah Inc3st Marriage. According to Bible and Torah the name of Abraham father and Sarah Father is Terah. So abraham and Sarah same father but different mother. So according to Quran, the name of Abraham Biological father is Azar. This guy Azar threaten to stone Abraham bcoz abraham Bully his Idol God, then Abraham run from his father home. If we logically connect the dots, abraham run from his biological father house to his biological "re married" mother. So Abraham and Sarah is : 1. Same Mother but Different Father (half sibling) but ok to married. Or 2. Completely no blood related (step sibling, step sister, step brother) Bible and torah also Picturing Sarah as Jelous Wife Quran correcting Sarah as Pious wife and Obedience to god, as GOD command sarah to give Hagar as Abraham 2nd wife and promise sarah a reward. GOD rewarding sarah with Biological Son .
@MU-we8hz Жыл бұрын
*In Christianity* You marry adults and you breastfeed children. *In islam* You marry children and you breastfeed adults.
@jamalkhan3708 Жыл бұрын
Well explained 😂😂😂😂😂
@kumarabhishek2359 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@rida-18 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and in Christianity you get daughters getting their dad drunk & committing rape & incest with him... **slow claps**
@amissaanimamea981310 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@vamsithattikota36108 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@123dsj123 Жыл бұрын
We must understand that the contentions (or disagreements) over the “Perfect Preservation of the Quran” is a thing of great importance to Muslims. How else can a Muslim assumes his divine human superiority over his fellow human beings if the Quran has been tempered with by man? Allah tells Muslims that they alone, when compared to the rest of mankind, are the superior human beings ever created. Quran 3:110 reads, “You (Muslims) are the best of people ever raised up for mankind.” In Hadith Riyas as-Salihin 1839, Mohammed, the prophet of Islam, explains Quran 3:110: “The best people for mankind are those who bring them (mankind) with chains around their necks till they embrace Islam…” * Thus, the Muslim must fiercely contend for his human supremacy by insisting the Quran, from God, is a decree that cannot be changed for all eternity. Surely, you do not expect the Muslim to give in to the claim “All men are created equal” - a claim he attributes to a “supposedly” corrupt book?
@simon-d-m Жыл бұрын
The claim is either true or false. If all the evidence refutes it, someone is lying...
@TheLikesofMeh Жыл бұрын
@@simon-d-mwithout lies Islam dies.
@TheLikesofMeh Жыл бұрын
You’d have to bang your head at least 5 times a day to believe anything that a PDFile, paranoid schizophrenic, received ANY revelation from ANY God.
@vicmath1005 Жыл бұрын
A small correction, if I may, Sheikh Jay! Dirḥam is the Aramaic/Arabic form of Drachma. The Aramaic (later Arabic) 'ḥ' (ح) is generally transliterated to ancient Greek as 'ch' (χ). Matthew the Levite - collector of the (Jerusalem) Temple tax - collected two-drachma from people. (See Matt. 17:24). Drachma would have been the name of the currency the Levites used at least since the beginning of the Hasmonean dynasty (c. 160 BCE) when the Petra-based Maccabeaus acquired the Temple Mount from the Greek rulers and established the Jewish temple there. The Nazarenes (formerly Levites), under 'Umar ibn al-Khattab, reestablished the Jerusalem Temple for the Jews (/Nazarenes/Muslims-Phase-1) in 635 CE and would have collected the Temple tax in the form of the newly issued dirḥam (/drachma) currency.
@kaloarepo288 Жыл бұрын
And does "dinar" come from Latin "denarius"?
@vicmath1005 Жыл бұрын
@@kaloarepo288 The two words sound almost identical. So, I imagine, one followed the other.
@pfanderfilms Жыл бұрын
Of course Dirham comes from the word Drachma, as it was created later. The Arabs didn't have any coinage before Muawiya introduced it in Arabic after 661 AD, much like the Arabic Dinar most likely comes from the Latin denarius. The Arabs took what was already there and Arabized it.
@vicmath1005 Жыл бұрын
@@pfanderfilms Thank you Sheikh Jay. IMHO: Although the language used on the coins etc is known to us as Arabic, I would have thought the faith leaders and their teachings were far too sophisticated to come from the Arabs. The drivers behind the whole phenomenon would have been the Nazarenes (root word nṣr is not Arabic).
@fantasia55 Жыл бұрын
@@kaloarepo288yes
@metagalaxy-go-the-distance Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video
@zambiansonlineforum1052 Жыл бұрын
Jay Simith have you ever written a book about these important information? I want a copy.
@mccaboy Жыл бұрын
thankyoufor such a thorough and clear presentation
@srilankangenie9 ай бұрын
16:04 maybe they are referring to the exchange rate from Sheckles to Dhirams
@damodarshaw2807 Жыл бұрын
God bless everyone who's trying to bring This community in right path 😊
@kumarg3598 Жыл бұрын
Thats how the crusades started.
@annemurphy9339 Жыл бұрын
@@kumarg3598 The Crusades started as a retaliatory response to 500+ years of islamic slave raids into Europe.
@defenderoftruth3212 Жыл бұрын
Path of those who go astray.
@mohamadibrahimallapitchay2825 Жыл бұрын
Good job mr jay smith. You are brilliant. The two billion muslim are blind. Your knowledge is but a small grain in the ocean of knowledge. Others can claim that paul write bible according to his limited knowledge. Paul does not receive any revelation. Muslim need not dispute you. We can argue for years about quran or bible. Lets follow our respective teaching and let god be the judge on the day of judgement. None of us are granted a free ticlet to paradise. Some say jesus is god and worship him. Others believe he was born a human and eat like other human. Some believe he will come back to give salvation to christian. Some believe he will come back to embrace islam. Pick your bet.
@ragael10246 ай бұрын
@@defenderoftruth3212 mate, you are the living walking definition of "blind faith". you were told to believe and never question, and so you do. and when others bring irrefutable proof that smth is off with your narrative, you just call it bs. you are not doing anything to rebuke this, you just mock us. like Muhammad Hijab when he has no idea what to say.
@kellrik66 Жыл бұрын
A question: If the Jewish temple was destroyed in 70 AD and the first mosque was built in 710 AD What was actually at the site during that time?
@usernametaken6659 Жыл бұрын
As I understand, the mosque was actually a christan building and design before islam hijacked it.
@Theosapologetics Жыл бұрын
Dr.jay, where can we find online publications of this warsh Quran and some of those different Qurans?please we need badly! So we can show them the website of it comparing to hafs!
@stephenchienjo3283 Жыл бұрын
i agree!
@alonzoharris9049 Жыл бұрын
There is no Hafs or Warsh Quran. There is Hafs and Warsh reading. The definition the Quran includes the readings.
@Theosapologetics Жыл бұрын
@@alonzoharris9049 is warsh a dialect or not?
@AAA-q3f4j Жыл бұрын
@@Theosapologetics No!!! the dialect is only certain words called ''variant words'' and those words were also Revelation as the Quran was revealed in 7 Styles or Modes of Recitation while the rest of the text remains the same. Hafs or Warsh or any other were Quranic Reciters who used their favourite ''variant words'' in their Recitation and that's how it became the Hafs or Warsh, etc. Recitation.
@Theosapologetics Жыл бұрын
@@AAA-q3f4j that’s the most NAIVE claims . Are you a Christian or a muslim? Do you really believe our GOD will reveal a CERTAIN word in 7 different modes or dialects? Don’t believe to whatever Muslims are claiming. They are clearly trying to cover up the failure of UTHMAN to burn all different Qurans in different dialects. . The STANDARD TEXTS says in hadith” uthman asked hudayfa to get empty sheet for Zayd to write a quran in QURAISH dialect and they produced many copies then burned all the variants of Quran . Now this is where the FAILURE started. Uthman obviously failed to burn those qurans all over the region some of muhammad’s companions ibn masud kept his and his followers own variants of Quran. Take note Quran is not a complete book it took 23 years for it to be completed as full quran. Not in one place but in everywhere any place they took battles it was a continous revelation from muhammad.when Muhammad died year later Some who heard his revelations died 70 of them prompting abu bkr the successor of Muhammad to write the Quran. 20 yrs later uthman 3rd caliph standardized the Quran taking the copy from HAFSA 4th wife of Muhammad. The worst part According to the history of al-Tabari, during the expedition there were 10,000 Kufan warriors, 6,000 in Azerbaijan and 4,000 at Rayy.[37] A large number of soldiers disagreeing about the correct way of reciting the Quran may have caused Hudhayfah to promote a unified text. That’s how UTHMANIC TEXTS is born the QURAISHI DIALECT. what added next is the 7 Qiraat/rhymes/reading There no such thing as another dialects because that’s the very reason why UTHMAN BURNED THE REST it’s because of many dialects many variants of Quran! What you hear today is just MADE UP doctrine by islamic scholars to cover up the DIFFERENT VARIANTS OF QURAN which UTHMAN failed to consfiscate during the standardization of Quran.
@wollicreek-gb3oc Жыл бұрын
Talking about Islamic standard narrative and the background leads me to recognize it as the product of savage desert civilization. I don't believe that that civilization produced books.
@hereweare9096 Жыл бұрын
Odd- How could some verses be substituted if the Quran was “written” eternally already??
@sanjaymalwe3529 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work 🙂
@simonhengle8316 Жыл бұрын
I actually think this is one of the best presentations you have done, fabulous stuff Dr. J. Smith, one question, were the early Quranic manuscripts divided into the chapters we have today?
@pfanderfilms Жыл бұрын
Good question. If you look at the earliest Manuscripts they are not like today's Qur'an at all, but jump all over the place, and have no verse references (though some begin to place medallions at every 10th verse, though squeezed in as a later addition). Versification was added at a much later date, and is still not consistently standardized even today in the 21st century. That is why whenever I state a chapter and verse I am using the Hillali & Khan versification, which is not always the standard, so that you may have to read forward and backwards 4-5 verses to find the correct one I am referring to.
@simonhengle8316 Жыл бұрын
@@pfanderfilms Thank you so much for the answer, maybe that is something you could do a presentation on in the future?
@AAA-q3f4j Жыл бұрын
LISTEN TO WHAT JAY SAYS; ''They gathered together all the Qur'ans from the 29 other Qira'at readings and threw them into the Nile River, and sank them…thinking that would get rid of them…''' NOW LISTEN AGAIN Jay denying what he said - THE LIAR!! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oX_HnaqYqq-dqa8
@hereweare9096 Жыл бұрын
I have not read the whole Quran yet the portions I have, read very disjointed. Very much as a series of statements.
@jxcess3891 Жыл бұрын
@@pfanderfilmsHi Jay, why do you permit abduls like alonzoharris9049 to write comments such as "Christians believe in 3 gods" on your channel?
@lindaclark6148 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Jay, even ignoring the dates and script types, the actual, personal reading of Qur'an is all codswallop! It's like some 10 year old wrote how he PERCEIVED Biblical stories. May Jesus Yeshua bless you Doctor Jay!
@briendoyle4680 Жыл бұрын
jhahaha
@temsumongbajamir1582 Жыл бұрын
God bless everyone.
@shdwbnndbyyt Жыл бұрын
The creation of C-14 is dependent on cosmic ray intensity. Since parchment is made from animal skins and contain nitrogen-14 as a part of the proteins which make up the skin, then the variation of cosmic ray intensity can affect the C-14 concentration of the skin. Note that cosmic rays can pass through the entire earth, so being kept in the dark does not matter in terms of C-14 creation. But per the standard carbon dating narrative, the C-14 dating shows the date of when the animal died... NOT when a parchment was used or scraped and reused as they often were. Parchments several hundred years old have been found to have been scraped and reused multiple times over the centuries. But C-14 dating is NOT reliable for any nitrogen containing materials, such as parchments made from animal skins (proteins contain nitrogen)... because N-14 can be converted to C-14 by cosmic rays, even if the parchment is prtected from direct sunlight because cosmic rays can pass through the entire earth.
@alonzoharris9049 Жыл бұрын
Your biblical manuscripts are later? The datings for your biblical manuscripts are incorrect.
@dianamv1618 Жыл бұрын
Pero hay más que investigar... como la expresión, si coincide con la expresión antiguo o es moderna. También la escritura, si la ortografía es parecida a dicha época o no. Hay varios factores para comprovar más o menos la época de los manuscritos...
@midimusicforever Жыл бұрын
Islam is a scam, as I use to say! Well done Jay!
@AAA-q3f4j Жыл бұрын
The only scam here is Jay!!!! Taking you idiots for fools.
@mwh6613 Жыл бұрын
Muslims were supposed to be a proper human by learnings as the important matters of life's, Instead! Muslims are serving the Sayetan.
@traver1965 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if Luxenberg has compiled a new version of the Quran? If not I hope he/she will
@alonzoharris9049 Жыл бұрын
Luxenberg believes in three gods.
@majeromajero7330 Жыл бұрын
Now I want to read the one in aramaic dots in english.
@BQ900 Жыл бұрын
The Muslims are always looking to criticize the Bible or the person as making a personal insult. This guy is sharp. The Quron is one of the most evil directives I have read.
@TheLikesofMeh Жыл бұрын
If a verse is abrogated, does that not count as “not one word or letter” being changed?
@One_voice369 Жыл бұрын
When I see the historical context in quran I see a bowl of spaghetti All over the place
@xavierbesnard9201 Жыл бұрын
Du très bon boulot !
@therock6251 Жыл бұрын
Great research u r awesome sir!!
@SKANDERBEG123 Жыл бұрын
May long live Legendary JAY SMITH 🙏❤️🇦🇱
@steevonmelwin Жыл бұрын
Hello Jay, Excellent work. I'd like to have a PowerPoint. How would I have access to it?
@universalflamethrower6342 Жыл бұрын
Yasr Qhadhi: "The Standard Islamic Narrative (SIN) has holes in it" Abdools: "Major or Minor?"
@LubnaRacalizedTerrorist11 ай бұрын
Jews call christians idol worshippers, MIAMONMIDES the ancient jewish scholar told his followers not to worship in christian churches but ok to worship in morques as they are Monothesist
@jean-baptistejanssens9468 Жыл бұрын
Praise be to Jesus for exposing the darkness with light.
@tdsdave Жыл бұрын
It says in the hadith that Bakr texts held by Hafsa , were borrowed by the Uthman project and were later returned to her, the rest destroyed . Also the emergency of the battle of Yamama says they feared that "parts" of the Quran would be lost , which suggests the Hafiz did not know the whole Quran else how could you lose parts if a single Hafiz was all that was needed to write the whole text. They say today if the Quran was lost across the planet it could be remade the following day , so why couldn't that be done with the Sahaba and Hafiz contemporary to early post Mo death Islam.
@AAA-q3f4j Жыл бұрын
Who says that the Sahaba could not reproduced the Quran after Mohammad (saw)?😀 YOU JUST GAVE THE ANSWER.
@tdsdave Жыл бұрын
@@AAA-q3f4j Yeah I think you just missed all the points in what I wrote , and the accompanying points within the video . Producing what you might call a Quran is not necessarily the same thing as reproducing the Quran that you'd claim was revealed. Given all the statements in your own texts, many from sahabah, and logical inferences we can make from those statements , the revelation was not what was produced. Your own texts talk of the sahabah saying parts were lost , forgotten, missing, changed, even eaten by animals. Notable sahabah had different qurans with variant numbers of sura and they opposed the legitimacy of what was produced by Uthmans process. Nothing about the process described in your texts suggests the Qurans of the sahabah were more than fallible compilations made from the recollections of fallible people , and there was no unity on what the text should be. You don't even have a contemporary copy of the Uthanmic text anyway , the oldest almost complete( it has many missing verses )extant Quran dates to over 150 years after Mo's death, prior to that you have small variant fragments , you have no way of showing the text was preserved, and clear statements from the sahabah that it was not. So go read your traditional accounts , they are what show your claim is not true.
@christianfrommuslim Жыл бұрын
The most enjoyable way to discover the corruption of the Quran is in Terry Kelhawk's adventure novel "The Topkapi Secret."
@Ditka-89 Жыл бұрын
9:42 there was a passage about breastfeeding an adult 10 times? What
@RS_Holdings Жыл бұрын
What does our Lord do to Tables ? ... Flips it , Left way , Right ... Up downside He is Over Protective , by nature ... Especially with His Ahlul Bayt...
@fantasia55 Жыл бұрын
Jay is much more effective speaking more slowly.
@justthinks2960 Жыл бұрын
please help us pakistan persecution of christians continues in pakistan this is the 18th incident in the last one month please help us please remember us in your prayers
@patnor7354 Жыл бұрын
Flee. No one can prrotect you from the muslims there.
@justthinks2960 Жыл бұрын
@@patnor7354 yes it's true All Muslim are same all government body
@mathaivarghese9769 Жыл бұрын
Good work
@planetruth1013 Жыл бұрын
They need to wake up but very few will until the tribulations when they most probably will die for coming to faith in Jesus
@miovicdina7706 Жыл бұрын
👏👏 Excellent
@fantasia55 Жыл бұрын
good audio quality
@elainekilgore1352 Жыл бұрын
Question: why would God need to keep clay tablets in heaven? No being living there now or at the end of time would have any use for it. God certainly has no need of it in heaven.
@fitzburg63 Жыл бұрын
Because people living in that times knew no other medium, so they could not come out with anything else - religions are all man made cults.
@enockt6218 Жыл бұрын
Are you in tanzania?? Thats great ! you will enjoy.
@dougdillon1956 Жыл бұрын
Jay what about St John of Damascus who rebuts Mohammed and refers to mecca before 749. Please do a video about how his critique of the Saracens on the historicity of Islam?
@PleiadesChannel Жыл бұрын
If this series existed five years ago I could have helped saved my friend's relationship with a sweet Muslim lady. :'(
@wandering_circles7487 Жыл бұрын
Should try and save both of them now. My God help you save those souls.
@thunderous-one Жыл бұрын
Q1) how does an uncreated book, that has no creator, have the words of Allah if Allah did not put the words there?🤔 Q2) how does an uncreated book have abrogations?🤔 Who substituted the abrogations if the Quran is uncreated?🤔 Q3) how can clay tablets (physical objects) exist in the multi dimensional spirit realm?🤔
@RS_Holdings Жыл бұрын
They changed the map as well...
@mikenine1962 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jay So 30:00, this is why the Quran is so mixed up, and as you say has chronological errors.
@manlike2323 Жыл бұрын
another brilliant video by jay smith!
@avalancheofapostasy4916 Жыл бұрын
31 minutes in and I'm overwelmed with the obvious evidence of the unreliability of the quran.
@garybowings1538 Жыл бұрын
"Alonzo Harris" worships three gods.
@ionin3965 Жыл бұрын
abdul deal with the topic or your mined flies around bukhari 6807 what your pervert muhamed wants from you?
@rajuthomas7471 Жыл бұрын
Defend logically and scientifically instead of ridiculing. Be rational.
@Norvasc100Ай бұрын
Can I obtain a powerpoint presentation of this video please?
@RS_Holdings Жыл бұрын
Zaboor we have to unlock
@Thor-Orion Жыл бұрын
1:05:45 hey hey! I’m younger than the Quran! I feel so youthful! I’m right around how old Jesus was when he died. And how old Frederick Barbarossa was when he became Holy Roman Emperor. Right when I start to feel like I’m getting old, someone says something that makes me feel like a spring chicken.
@michaelboros98348 ай бұрын
What Quran? All originals have been burned. There were zero dots or dashes in original Arabic writing. There’s over 27 different Qurans with 91,000 differences…
@فلسفهعلموموسیقی Жыл бұрын
Can we please get the powerpoint? Is there a book written by Dr. smith?
@BijoyP-h2l Жыл бұрын
Though I am Catholic but I love mr.Jay smith most.We Catholic don’t do like him but we should/must do.😉.However, we have time now to do it . Why should we afraid to tell the truth.there was a time that we could not say but now we have time to say their false because we love them . Love is meant in bible to tell the truth and bring them back to the right places we love our Muslim brothers and sisters.
@fantasia55 Жыл бұрын
The internet is proving to be just as damaging to Protestantism as to Islam. People can read the Church Fathers and the Didache - and see for themselves that early Christianity was very Catholic.
@joescott4073 Жыл бұрын
Why don't you like him
@favourayobami4056 Жыл бұрын
You Catholics don't like him? Who made you the mouthpiece of the entire Catholic spokesman?
@yakovmatityahu Жыл бұрын
Catholics need to go Muscular 💪 like they used to be in old days, they are now snowflakes all thanks to pope francis and his snowflake army of liberal catholics
@AAA-q3f4j Жыл бұрын
@@yakovmatityahu Catholics praise LUCIFER👹
@Savandero6 ай бұрын
Hi brother, there is a claim that your taping picture is in the language aramaic. Any thoughts on that?
@NeilEvans-xq8ik Жыл бұрын
I've heard the prosecution. Now I want to hear the defence. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Is this channel about thinking or just self-congratulating tribalism?
@pfanderfilms Жыл бұрын
Actually we're waiting for a good defense as well. My apologies if it comes across as self-congratulation. That's not our intent. We would like to hear a good potent response.
@AAA-q3f4j Жыл бұрын
@@pfanderfilms STOP YOUR LYING!!! You've been answered over and over with proof but you still regurgitates the same crap over and over.
@libbaT Жыл бұрын
@@AAA-q3f4j'Giving answers' doesn't automatically translate into VALID answers. If you think Dr Smith is fabricating, the onus is on YOU to provide your own evidenced refutation my friend
@AAA-q3f4j Жыл бұрын
@@libbaT I've been doing that for years...but the Liar regurgitates the same crap all over again for new gullible xtians. STATE YOUR EXAMPLE and I will proof the lies of Jay to you.
@troywalstra9300 Жыл бұрын
@@AAA-q3f4jthat isn't a defense for what you believe.
@RS_Holdings Жыл бұрын
God Hears , aka Ishmael , apparently is a mobile Qura 10 styles recition, Thanks to our Lord
@amalrajxavier123 Жыл бұрын
God bless you Dr Jay 🙏
@britanikothegreat8513 Жыл бұрын
Isaiah 7:14. Matthew 27:46. Psalms 22:1-20!!! 21!!! DO NOT COMPLAIN OR CLAIM LIKE EMMANUEL OR JESUS. JOHN 14:6. JOHN 10:30. Exodus 20:7-8-12. Deuteronomy 5:1-11. WHAT DID YOU SAY?!. HEBREO 4:12.
@briendoyle4680 Жыл бұрын
haha
@soosainathan1753 Жыл бұрын
The more weak the foundation of a belief is, the irrational and effort the believers put in to defend the belief. They put in human orotection to preserve their way. I really wonder what he smoked or ate to think he went to Jerusalem and then to heaven , up to the 7th. Level and conversed with god?
@nikolabrankovic1124 Жыл бұрын
Make video of Muhammad museum where they have his footprint, shoes, hair, tooth, letters and other
@AAA-q3f4j Жыл бұрын
@thelittlemermaid1411 YES!!! The Ottomans ruled the known world for almost a 1000 yrs including the Arab caliphs and they (OTTOMANS) TOOK ALL THE RELICS when they ruled Mecca and Medina.
@danieladedosugbadero7373 Жыл бұрын
The Rashidun period in Islam is legendary and mythical in the Standard Islamic Narrative (SIN). It never existed historically. It was a time of chaos and uncertainty when the repressed Arabs were suddenly freed from the dominating Roman and Sassanid Empires. The long repressed Arabs suddenly found freedom and rampaged everywhere conquering large territories for their new Arab empire. The period was too bloody, chaotic and uncertain and possibly embarrassing to document. It lasted from 622 to 681. The Arab nation was then led and governed by diverse interests and leaders until it was consolidated under Muawiya and Abdul Malik who were quasi- Christians but definitely not Muslims. The Abbasids took over from the Umayyads of Syria and, consolidating their takeover to create a unique identity, began to create a new religion of Islam with a messiah in Mohammed, a book in Quran, and a new center of worship in Mecca. There is no iota of historical, academic or archaeological evidence to support the theory of the Rashidun era created in the Standard Islamic Narrative of the Islamic literatures.
@mikenine1962 Жыл бұрын
The earliest people who knew Mohammad weren't even named ( Maronite Chronicle ) but described as a group of Arabs who actually describing Christian activities. This is the point where Mohammed life was concocted and created, from the 'Group of Arabs.'
@Convertier Жыл бұрын
Can we download this presentation?
@haneefmuhammad Жыл бұрын
Jay is helping the spread of Islam. May ALLAH have Mercy on you. Good work Jay keep people reading The Quran it is a Mercy for them. As Salaam Alaikum
@Val.Kyrie. Жыл бұрын
He’s destroying your demonic filth 😂
@haneefmuhammad Жыл бұрын
@@Val.Kyrie. As Salaam Alaikum
@haneefmuhammad Жыл бұрын
@@stargategoku As Salaam Alaikum
@primalcauldron Жыл бұрын
Yes they will read more ...to find it's inconsistencies and contradictions where they will go to mosque and ask questions then they will start to think for themselves and stop being donkeys. What doubts did you hold in your mind and heart to click and watch this video I wonder ?? Just curiosity ..then at that moment the Lord was with you . Amen 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 🙌🙌
@kawseralam5969 Жыл бұрын
Millions people memories only one version of Quran.
@danielanthony83735 ай бұрын
The Standard Islamic Narrative has craters in it
@jfziemba Жыл бұрын
Oh. Thought it was Jay Dyer. BTW, have you watched his recent vid about Islam and what do you think?
@pauldeeley4247 Жыл бұрын
With such SIN...time for repentance, ask God for forgiveness, dish Alla and come to God. Jesus will welcome all. Brothers and sisters come home!
@britanikothegreat8513 Жыл бұрын
BEFORE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD THE DIVINE QUESTION DIVINE TEST ANS DIVINE MERCY WAS READY FOR MEN ANGEL OR GOD. HEBREO 4:12. Jeremiah 17:9-10. Jeremiah 29:11. Hebrew 4:12. Job 40:7-19. Isaiah 1:21. ENDLESS QUESTION ONE ANSWER. DIVINE TEST WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR HOLY OR DIVINE ANSWER?!. JOHN 10:1. Hebreo 4:12.
@britanikothegreat8513 Жыл бұрын
Isaiah 7:14. Matthew 27:46. John 14:6. John 10:30. Psalms 22:1-20!!! 21!!! HAVING YOU NEAR ME. AMOS 8:10. TOO MUCH LOVE WILL KILL YOU. DO NOT COMPLAIN OR CLAIM LIKE EMMANUEL OR JESUS!!! Exodus 20:7-8-12. Deuteronomy 5:1-11. 1KING 3:5-14. PSALMS 1:1-2. PSALMS 12:6-7. PSALMS 22:22-31. JOB 12:4 or ISAIAH 53:6. Hebreo 4:12.
@defenderoftruth3212 Жыл бұрын
According to Jay Smith is that he believed that there is really ONE ORIGINAL GOSPEL. Since he cannot find it, he assumed that the gospel of John is already that book. But his is only mere assumption. He failed to make any clear evidence to show that his assumption is correct. Hence, he has to show manuscripts in Aramaic as evidence for his assumption that the gospel of John is the already real Gospel of Pophet jESUs (pbuh). By his hasty assumption, he undoubtedly discarded the gospels of Mark, Matthew and Luke into useless books which have no more meaning to the whole Christendom, and hence not fit to be used as the basis of the religiosity of the Christians. Sources (to name a few): 1. Islam vs. Christianity 2. What is the Standard Islamic Narratives? 3. Webinar: Understanding Islam -10-03-23
@dianamv1618 Жыл бұрын
El cristiano no necesita de la Biblia para ser cristiano. El islam si necesita del coran para ser musulmán. Esa es una gran diferencia.
@ibrahimriversnoone9767 Жыл бұрын
Jay couldn't dismantle his shoe lace ..... without lying 🤥
@TingTong2568 Жыл бұрын
PissLame and quWrong had been obelirated by Jay Smith
@troywalstra9300 Жыл бұрын
Lying about what exactly?
@ibrahimriversnoone9767 Жыл бұрын
@@troywalstra9300 about Islam, allah ,his revelation, all of his prophets and messengers, and the messiah son of Miriam. Listen to him and follow him on his woeful path- or study and read for yourself and pray to the very one the messiah prayed to- Pray for guidance-amin
@LubnaRacalizedTerrorist11 ай бұрын
muslims bow down to God like jesus and all prophets
@ragael10246 ай бұрын
as a muslim put it, "anything that contradicts the authenticity of the Quran is wrong." well, you can't fix stupid.
@joejoe9979 Жыл бұрын
The Qur'an created by Human with lie cover up another lie. Muslim never lie Islam die.
@jeffgreene5956 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this was really good... right up until Jay said that unlike Muslims being totally dependent upon the Quran, we are not dependent upon the Bible... "our primary revelation is not the Bible, our primary revelation is Jesus Christ." HAVE YOU LOST YOUR MIND? We would know nothing of Christ without the Word of God. It is the Word of God that does the work of God. We absolutely ARE dependent upon the Word of God! I must have misunderstood or something. The revelation of Jesus Christ comes from the Bible Jay. Surely you have misspoken?
@dianamv1618 Жыл бұрын
It refers to that we do not need the Bible to be Christians. For example, primitive Christians did not have Bible ... That means that Christianity is independent of the Bible. The Bible was created in the fourth century for Christians' guide, but not to depend totally on it ... I hope I have explained myself well. 22:32 22:33 22:34
@jeffgreene5956 Жыл бұрын
@@dianamv1618maybe I used the wrong term when I said Bible, I should have said the word of God or scripture. As I said above, it is the Word of God that does the work of God. The Bible is a compilation of the scriptures. Did not Christ say "It is written..."? Sure, we don't need paper and ink as long as the Word has been accurately passed down but isn't that the same argument Muslims use for the Quran? I don't think it is helpful to diminish the written Word. Like I said, maybe I misunderstood and if so, my apologies.
@RS_Holdings Жыл бұрын
Hamaan also German name
@robinpage273011 ай бұрын
Great presentation. Now if only he could apply those save critical analysis techniques to Christianity and Judaism
@MAX-tw3qz Жыл бұрын
What an amazing video. Talk about opening a gold mine, this is a truth mine. Get digging folks, let's bury Muhammad and rest in peace.