Traditions Pursuit with Blackhorn 209!

New gun, new to me powder and whole a lot of fun shooting.
Sighted the Pursuit in on the 25 meter and 50 meter targets then move on to the 100 meter target where I got quit a surprise!
I expected bullet drop that didn't happen at 100 meters!
This is a great combination, inline break barrel muzzleloader and Blackhorn 209.
I used Hornady sabots with Hornady 265 gr .430 jacketed soft point and Proline Shooters 240 gr .429 copper plated flat-point bullets. Both worked very well.

[@Bobby-od2yf]

I was wondering what you think is better cva inline or traditions inline

[@44gunsmoke]

Yes it tells you in the instructions to use regular 209 primers, Not black powder primers.

[@joshtrauger3088]

Pure entertainment. Thank you sir. 🤣🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️

[@Clearanceman2]

What I have noticed with 209 is 1. If you let it set wet it will pit a barrel. 2. It builds up and it is very hard to remove if you don't get it to down to bare metal between shooting sessions. I assumed it was getting clean because my patch came out clean with gun solvent and I ended up with some baked on crud that didn't come off easily at all, many patches of lead out and that paste to remove it plus wire brushing and it's still not all out. It looks like teflon and it just gets thicker and thicker. It doesn't seem to pit unless you leave it wet but it will mess up accuracy eventually.

[@44gunsmoke]

Yes it goes hard at the metal if you don't get it all, I haven't had trouble cleaning it though.

[@Clearanceman2]

44gunsmoke Look real closely and see if you see any black residue, looks like teflon, it's very black and smooth. I had a ton of it in there after just cleaning each time until patches came out clean. And it built up and was not fun to remove. Still working on it with the one rifle. The other rifle had rust and soaking the inside of the barrel with Evaporust also removed that coating (and the bluing anywhere it touched). So I'm done removing coating from the one, the other one I'll eventually finish with by just cleaning it better than when I shot it each time I shoot it. At least I got the slight rust out of it easily. the one I had to use Evaporust on was a mess. But I had shot it in the rain and put it in the gun cabinet and forgot about it for over a month and THEN cleaned it. If I had used any other powder, it would have been destroyed. And it just had some surface rust and mild pitting in places, the rifling is mostly completely intact still. And the breech plug came right out.

[@larryhanna6852]

Clearanceman2 q

[@Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill]

I like how the pursuit shoulders, don't have one but consider it. I got the t/c triumph and haven't been all that happy with it. Not sure what to go with. I like the idea of the smokeless powder savage ml II but I don't think they make it still. Their are some custom builders that make rifles that use smokeless powder and accurate to 500 yrds but they cost an arm and a leg, and maybe a kidney and liver if you want the scope.

[@44gunsmoke]

This system is as smokeless as I want to get. Smokeless belongs in a cartridge as far as I'm concerned but that's just me.

[@mistereftup5629]

+monsterman27 a volcanic level of smoke is fun at a public range

[@ky09]

Are those barnes expanders?. I've heard good reviews on black horn 209 but I haven't tried it yet but thanks for showing us.

[@mistereftup5629]

for 10 times the fun, use PowerBelt bullets and Pyrodex pellets. measuring powder is for the birds and those sabots are pure hell with even a slightly dirty barrel (dirty after one shot) ANYWAY, you can get rimfire accuracy with this gun with either bullet and either powder.

[@44gunsmoke]

+Mister Eftup There is very little fowling with Tracker 209, not much more than smokeless.

[@44gunsmoke]

Hornady.

[@Loganthered1]

i am looking at getting one of these guns. is the accelerator breech plug compatible with blackhorn 209 or did you have to swap it out for a different one?

[@44gunsmoke]

Logan TheRedOne It is compatible as is.

[@Loganthered1]

@@44gunsmoke thanks

[@davegentry2380]

Funny video. Poor shooting

[@jamesreichfeld4676]

lots of inconsistent shooting from shot to shot ram rod in , ram rod out , barrel on the front rest , fore stock on the front rest and not sure if you use a rear bag

[@44gunsmoke]

James Reichfeld Trying different stuff is all. Ram rod in or out, who cares.

[@jamesreichfeld4676]

@@44gunsmoke consistency makes for accuracy

[@davegentry2380]

Piss poor way to rest rifle barrel.

[@davegentry2380]

I’ll bet it doesn’t shoot any better than 777. I would put my Ruger 77/50’s up against these.

[@Wesley-m1r]

Well at $89 dollars per 10oz ill have to pass.

[@drinkingwaterpro8696]

What would anyone recommend for a blackhorn 209 powder charge for a 300 grain 50cal bullet in this rifle.

[@hogsnplanes]

With 209 I’d go by the manufacturer’s recommendation

[@Sasksaint]

dont rest the barrel on your rest...always rest the forestock....youre rifle was shooting high...A " Good" scope will cure a lot of ills...Older eyes at range are noi friend of mine either. lol

[@dancook4371]

i keep getting hang fires out of my pursuit g4 ive used the cci magnum 209 and samething clean gun clean breech can anyone help me out seams like ignition isnt happening for me

[@hogsnplanes]

If all is clear it should fire, try different primer.

[@joepennRR1]

This is the best and most comprehensive video I've seen on this thank you it was very informative

[@macsorfi5815]

For the 100 yards target, you are sopporting the muzzleloader on the POD using the muzzle...for the 25 and 50 yards you were using as support the hand grip. The shots go in different directions for this reason....I suggest always use the hand grip to hold the gun over the POD... always. I just got this gun and your video is helping me a lot. Thanks.

[@44gunsmoke]

Thanks, There are lots of opinions on resting guns. Sometimes it depends on the bench.

[@zenmastervex]

I've been very pleased with Blackhorn 209. I use it in a Traditions Pursuit Ultralight with a 26" barrel, Leupold VX-1 2-7x33 scope, and Federal 209A shotgun primers. With Hornady 250g SST-ML .45 bullets in a .50 sabot, I've been able to dial my accuracy to 1.5" groups at 100 yards. Through a chronograph, 100 volumetric units (or 70 grains by weight) averages 1948 fps. With that velocity, I don't see the need to load it any higher. This is some serious power and accuracy, and on par with modern day .45-70 cartridge loadings. I do suggest picking up a bottle of the Blackhorn cleaning solvent. Great stuff, I only wish it came in pellet form to facilitate easier, trouble-free reloads in the field.

[@zenmastervex]

One last note, Blackhorn 209 also makes a great cartridge powder. There is a lot of loading data on their website for muzzleloader and cartridges.

[@44gunsmoke]

ZenMasterVex I'm going to give it a try in 38 special, 45 Colt and 45/70.

[@zenmastervex]

44gunsmoke Excellent, I'm excited to see your results in 45-70.

[@blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194]

Not only do I use bh209 in my in lines but I also load my 45Colt cartridges for my single Action revolvers with bh209. It is great performance and very clean burning.

[@hogsnplanes]

It is nice. Regular cleaner’s though, not soap and water.

[@blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194]

@@hogsnplanes I just got some BreakFree, to try and see how that will work. It says it cleans and protects.

[@hogsnplanes]

@@blackpowderfirearmenthusia3194 May look for some to try.

[@ditchdigger93]

Not bad ! LOL! Now that's excellent shooting especially with open sights. I'd take that any day of the week.

[@44gunsmoke]

Thanks, it’s a nice rifle

[@dogma1859]

Best powder, Blackhorn. Cleaner, more accurate burn. But for some folks, it just doesn't matter.

[@1hunterdale]

hi i tryed that black horn in my cva with muzzleloader primers i used 150 grs it didnt work so well it whent off but sounded like a air rilfe i wasnt sure if the bullet came out i think i should have used winchester primes

[@GeorgiaRidgerunner]

Thanks for the video i know im late But i have to say this sealed the deal for me im gonna go with traditions brand for my first muzzle loader im not completely decided on what model i want though How much trouble is to mount a scope on these my eyes arent as good as they used to be

[@44gunsmoke]

georgiaridgerunner 79 They are drilled and tapped for scope mounts. Pretty easy.

[@GeorgiaRidgerunner]

@@44gunsmoke thank you sir

[@mikevallee3916]

I was watching, and, I see the front rest is loosey. Look at 17:45 min +or -

[@44gunsmoke]

+Mike Vallee As tight as it gets.

[@seanlloyd8534]

Is the standard pursuit or the xlt?

[@44gunsmoke]

sean lloyd Standard.

[@88huckster]

nice. I have the same rifle. what primer are you using? have you tried any of the pellet type powders?

[@44gunsmoke]

88huckster CCI 12 gauge primers. Never used pellets in any gun yet.

[@88huckster]

44gunsmoke I'm using the fiochhi 209 primers. They are supposed to be a little hotter. Better burn.?

[@44gunsmoke]

Any 209 works except those designed for black powder only.

[@hogsnplanes]

Not yet but plan on it.