45 CHINESE Motorbikes DEFINITELY worth buying

[@motorsforthemasses]

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[@cedhome7945]

I was in the bike trade for 13 years and the amount of people wandering in asking for spairs for no name Chinese bikes was tragic sorry mate never heard of it. But you go ahead and spend your money.... going luck

[@motorsforthemasses]

@cedhome7945 Times have changed. That WAS true yes, things are changing fast.

[@lipsee100]

I use to own a Bashan 233cc... it was ok ,plastics abit *hit but overall at the price £1299 not bad,,,,it cannot be that bad it got nicked...

[@VincentSmith-i7o]

At the age of 72 I bought a CF Moto 300nk based purely on reviews. I have now covered 2000 trouble free miles. Bike is nimble. Not particularly quick but will cruise at 70mph quite happily. So far I,am delighted with my purchase. Comfortable seating position, all controls eaßy to use. May add a windscreen at some point, we'll see. 😊😊😊

[@THECONTROVERSIALCYCLIST]

Absolutely loved this video. So much great info on the bikes and chinese manufacturing. I own a cfmoto 300 ss and its a great little bike. Light, only 30bhp but now run in will do 0 to 60 mph in 6.5 sec, handles beautifully and can change your line mid corner. Av 80 mpg, gently thrashing it everywhere 😂. I also own a honda Transalpine 650 2003 which I also love. Amazing insight into the chinese MC market.

[@aeron-mw7ofs]

Chinese motorcycle has definitely improved in later years. They were awful things! My nextdoor neighbour bought 3 one for himself, one for his wife and one for his son . Ive lost count on the times i had to go round to get the things running for them . Fast forward 6-7 years and im considering either a cfmoto or a voge 👍

[@brakenoodle105]

I got a close look at a virtually new Zontes G1 125cc at a recent bike night. It's fit and finish was better than my first Suzuki 125.

[@daddystu7046]

Did 10,000 miles on mine in a year all over the country. Loved it. Wish they did a 700cc+ version.

[@Bigalref1]

I have the Zontes ZT350, best bike i have owned. Great value for money, what you get as standard is brilliant

[@daddystu7046]

Loved my Zontes too 125cc G1 - kept it for a while after passing my full test.

[@edmccann7888]

Another great video , I’ve SYM NHT 125 , Crackin bike , fun to ride and runs on fumes

[@volkiruski1221]

Mark, these brands you mention, you can buy direct from the factories or do they sell by distributors and retailers?

[@SS-ck3ew]

HUZZAH!! Here in America we don't get many of these. CFMoto? Yup. Benelli? Yup! Royal Alloy? Yup! Sym? Yup! I dropped by our local CFMoto dealer early today but there still do not have the 450MT in. Most Benellis are sold by dealers as "used but new in the crate" bikes. Weird. Where does one get one serviced? We do not have tiered licensing here but I doubt that would make much difference as most young folk today just stare at their phones. They don't even exercise unless forced to by their school and it is a rare sight indeed to see a full on pedal bicycle with anyone riding it. Most are electrics with either an obese adult or a mental youth at the controls. I very much enjoyed this episode! Thank you! SS in commiefornia, USA.

[@Rogueonepigeon]

I support Chinese Bikes as long as they have the dealership assurance behind them, unfortunately, half of these brands are distributed under MotoGB which are one of the worst for customer service in the country therefore do not expect your bike purchase to be covered under warranty without any issues as they will not help you, the bike will be sitting off the road for months before they can even get the parts in to sort it out and this is if they are willing to honour their warranty claims which more often they choose to ignore you.

[@Thegeordiemonkey]

Downside for most of them is dealer network, parts availability, aftermarket parts for some and longevity and reliability, i dont hate them, had several china build 125s, currently have a skyteam dax replica and my honda monkey, the dax is 12yrs old and has 700kms on it, been in shed a year as electrics are crap, i have had 4 of them now but know what i am getting into and parts are cheap to buy.

[@Thegeordiemonkey]

P.s a cf moto 450mt is possibly my next bike but letting the hype settle a bit to see what there like after 5k miles or so and any problems.

[@motorsforthemasses]

@Thegeordiemonkey That is one thing I get concerned about dealer networks but it's swings and roundabouts, the more people commit to buying them, the more dealers and parts available etc.

[@ashleychurnside2245]

I've got a Chinese bike a Pioneer with a Lifan CG clone 125 twin port had it for 4 years it's been very reliable ,great for knocking about on local roads. I've also got a classic Honda NTV 650 for longer distances.

[@stevesanelli90]

Thanks Mark. Currently, CFMOTO now use an Italian firm called Modena40 for all their styling & designs for the current range of bikes. The last remnant bikes are the 650 & 700MT's. All the new ones are from Modena40.

[@motorsforthemasses]

I think the CLX was still Kiska but the SR I believe was Modena. Not sure on the MT to be fair.

[@stevesanelli90]

@@motorsforthemasses CL-X is definitely Kiska. The 450 range is definitely Modena40.

[@rethinking-h8k]

I'm now in a thinking of my next dual sport, I'm between 2 chinese bikes , fantic rally 500, zongshen engine, and beta alp x with zontes engine, or stick to the familiar dr650. Are you familiar with those bikes? I need a work horse that well work offroad and highway capable. Would you recommend one of them?

[@Rokoneer]

Very entertaining and enlightening video as most of the marques and models are not available here in the US. As the owner of a Benelli TRK I agree that it is very well built, reliable, and enjoyable to ride. I wish we had as many options as you fellows do!

[@motorsforthemasses]

I'm not sure why so many brands don't make it to the USA. All China has to do is turn right and go across the sea rather than go all way Europe, or go across the land of all the European countries.

[@volkiruski1221]

I was and still are in business/hobby and knowledge of Chinese smartphones, guitars, audioproducts, speakers, but also TV's and other band electronics. I tell you, 5 years back a Chinese smartphone could be broke in 6 months, now they use a Smartphone for at least 2/3 years without problems (Xiaomi) Other products too. China will be the No.1 soon. Specially if they get a leading role in Brics. European Electric Vehicles are passed by the Chinese allready...they sell more then EU and or USA.

[@kl9518]

All the motorcycle travellers and vlogers use Dij cameras, drones, and Insta360, all Chinese brands. They are better than the Gopros now.

[@RCBR-o6g]

Chinese automotive and motorbike brands have evolved throughout the years. They are not the bad products, laking 80% quality due to poor quality control as 20 years ago might have been. As you say, most electronic related household products have chinese components, and being real, we have to admit that china is being dominant in all fields. I've owned Benelli Tnt300, now Zontes T310, and have driven for some time in the past Honda Transalp, Cb250, XR250, etc. And every brand has its ups and downs. Benelli and Zontes offer reliability, and a good cost-benefit relation. I think that China will be involved in producing traditional brand bikes soon, and will probably buy some also (just as what has happened with some car brands). The only thing we have to have in mind is not to treat the bike for what it wasn't meant for. Don't expect to race a Dakar, nor enter a motocross race with a Zontes T310, its not made for that purpose. If you mantain your chinese bike, and use it accordingly, you will enjoy it.

[@daddystu7046]

I love the in-built bias against chinese bikes. Keeps the price down for the rest of us :) and especially for the youngsters trying to get into the hobby.

[@Bigalref1]

where are the links?

[@motorsforthemasses]

@Bigalref1 bugger lol. I will add them Sunday eve as away now.

[@motorsforthemasses]

All Links NOW ADDED, thank you.

[@Bigalref1]

@@motorsforthemasses ok

[@theriggsworkshop8606]

Ive had 6 chibese bikes over the last 5 years and 55 bikes from the main manufacturers beforevthat for the past 25 years. So id like to think i kinda know what im talking about.. So id like to say YOU TALK THE TRUTH MY FRIEND i currently have a Benelli TRK702x and an MG HS.. Both epic

[@davewalker1327]

You keep saying the Voge uses tge old GS850 engine. It doesn't it uses the Gs900 engine. Same bore stroke and compression ratio.

[@motorsforthemasses]

@davewalker1327 which is based on the F850 engine which has been bored out to 900.

[@khaiber_kakar]

Nice bundled Information on "New Japanease" Mozorcycles. Now you said Keeway fixed the rusting Problems of the Superlight to some degree. Which year Keeway Superlight do you recommend? Keep up the great work and thanks for the answer.

[@motorsforthemasses]

2021 Superlight onward seem better.

[@khaiber_kakar]

​@@motorsforthemassesHad a 2011 build no issius except bit o rust.

[@roycspary8923]

may I suggest you include weight price and fuel consumption to justify your opinion

[@volkiruski1221]

Your explanation about the pricing and quality of Chinese products are 100% right. Chinese are so smart. They learn very fast. Very creative too, very smart ideas. Nice video.

[@allanmilne6376]

Thanks I would love to buy a Chinese scooter, but I live in the one region of UK where there are no dealers. Getting from Wight to the main island is expensive. I bought a Honda Forza this year hoping the extra pep in the ECU motor would help on the gradients. The performance is fine but the seat is either too wide or too tall for me. Unfortunately there was no demo bike. Leaning on my left toe I'm ok. Leaning the other way I end up being a bit of a clown show, stopped in the carriageway. Don't ride IDLE STOP if your hemmed in with cages. Anyway there is my warning to other short riders. I might have to trade it for Royal Alloy.

[@kl9518]

All the motorcycle travellers and vlogers use Dij cameras, Dji drones, and Insta360, all Chinese brands. They are better than the Gopros now, American brand but made in China.

[@richardwarsinske7064]

What are your thoughts on the Mondial Piega 452? Uses the CFMoto 450 twin engine in a nice looking sports naked layout.

[@motorsforthemasses]

@richardwarsinske7064 Haven't tried that yet, will have to get on that!

[@WhippyWhip2]

The latest chinese bikes are good quality, finding spare parts on the other hand is like hunting for gold

[@CrapKerouac]

SYM is Taiwanese. Sanyang Motor Co., Ltd. was founded in Taipei in 1954 by Huang Chi-Chun and Chang Kuo An. The company's headquarters is established in Hsinchu County, Taiwan. I have one, it's a fun reliable, albeit slow because it's a 150CC bike.

[@motorsforthemasses]

Yes of course, blonde moment lol

[@garyhooper1820]

Was hoping to see mention of Benda , like their 500cc Bobber with a V Twin .

[@motorsforthemasses]

@garyhooper1820 I haven't tried the bigger cc one yet. The 125 is same as the RKV Keeway.

[@JanAdrianKho]

thank you 😊

[@Thegeordiemonkey]

Kymco another good one up there with SYM.

[@gerryattrickbiker]

I do agree but the Kymco importer doesn't seem very proactive to me with the scooters, I guess the quads and disability stuff is more lucrative

[@nhardy2480]

Taiwanese

[@beberforumer9715]

not a real country 😄

[@Alan-cg8gx]

Hi Mark have you ridden / reviewed a Herald Brat 250?

[@motorsforthemasses]

@Alan-cg8gx No I haven't. I haven't heard great things so didn't feel too motivated to do so.

[@gerryattrickbiker]

Very interesting video mark, I did remain focused all the way through. If I'm honest if I see a 41minute video I cant always make it to the end 😅

[@motorsforthemasses]

Lol, I understand and thank you.

[@noelg3384]

CF Moto are good they will do well.

[@nigelfisher6896]

Love this video and your channel. Ever heard of Paso Motors? 300cc CFMOTO engine scrambler. Im thinking about buying one. Appreciate your thoughts. I have a CFMOTO 800NK Advance great bike. All the features at an amazing price.

[@motorsforthemasses]

@@nigelfisher6896 I haven't heard of Paso, no.

[@BLG80]

Its not just stigma with Chinese bikes and in fairness iscnot an accurate portrait of the market to simplify the issue this way. Its a fact that Japanese companies have long term r&d strategies which they put substantial amounts of money into, where the Chinese Market strategy is to focus on new models made at a price point and frequent new offerings. Now one can debate the finer points of both but what is not debatable is the Japanese quality in motorcycles is far superior. I have a 2009 r125 which my daughter is learning to ride on. Its done 40k miles and not a single mechanical problem. Its not even like it has been really well maintained just the minimum and oil change every 1k miles they will run forever, its in great condition inside the engine case like new almost. Try getting that on a lex! Not guna happen. Chinese bikes are built like cars with a degree of planned obsolescence, Japanese bikes no such thing geta honda and will last forever and start every single morning no matter how cold. Its a no brainer.

[@larrynorsworthy8582]

Lots of good looking bikes here. I havent heard of some here in the US.

[@colinhall8998]

IMO I’d never buy Chinesium motor vehicles, I value my life and money too much. They are not value for money, they are CHEAP!

[@motorsforthemasses]

@@colinhall8998 old thinking

[@lipsee100]

How do you know? if you have not owned

[@bigred8438]

Yes a stigma attached to bike manufactures. The Brits never got over their decline, until Hinkley. Norton still hasn't recovered their greatness. It would have been good if back in the day, the British bike industry had quality controls to, but it didn't. Rectifying poor design and poorly manufactured components, design flaws and careless build quality was left to owners and companies like SRM to fix in subsequent years. I would even go so far as to say that all BSA's built in the 1960 and 70's are better bikes now than they were when made, through the dedication of owners and engineering companies to remedy all their problems. Mine is certainly more reliable with an oil cooler, oil feed to big end mods done etc.

[@davidrochow9382]

Having owned a Benelli 250 2c back in the 70s and remembering the wonderful "Italian" electrics( sarcasm fully meant) they would have to be better. I keep listen to your price and think Wow that's cheap. Then I remember you are talking in pounds not Australian $ and realise it's about the same price. IMO the best thing about the Royal Alloy 300 is that you can buy them with a sidecar fitted straight from the shop. I always think of my old Kawasaki GPX 250 when you mention that brand.

[@BLG80]

In case anyone wants to know from an unbias perspective if Chinese last longer than other brands, you dont have to really rely on opinion. They is website called "how many left" with statistical data on the amount of units sold, currently and past licensed and sorn. With chinese bikes you will see they is a dramatic rise in sorn and unlicensed units years after launch compared to a mainstream brand equivalent. Data doesn't lie folks.

[@andywrollo2915]

If you want a bike that goes bang. Like most chinese cr4p

[@motorsforthemasses]

@@andywrollo2915 old thinking

[@johnfitchie9892]

CF moto aren't they responsible for the KTM chocolate cams issue ?

[@Rogueonepigeon]

how about Harley Davidson? if you are going to waste your money at least you are not paying a mortgage for it.

[@bigred8438]

The new Quadrafinia movie relaunch........Octofinia?

[@kevindarkstar]

3:19 personally I think that the ds 900 will kick the ass on the cfmoto 800, why buy that when the voge 900 is better spec and cheaper by a bit 😊

[@motorsforthemasses]

@kevindarkstar Both very good bikes and I tend to agree with you. Once I get the test bike for my weekend trip...I'll find out for sure.

[@daddystu7046]

I'm hoping that with the china-hate its not too popular so I can pick a 1 year used up for 6k or so :)

[@bigred8438]

Speaking of copies of other people's bikes. I for one can't tell the make of a liquid cooled japanese sports bike these days because there is so much plastic and they all look like transformers. The engines have little or no character in the looks department either. The only think l recognise on them that generally distinguishes - if l can be bothered - is the colours. You know, black and green kawasaki, grey, blue white and red honda; yellow and black, Yamaha, blue metallic, suzuki. So, as far as l am concerned they may as well come from the same company. Is that illegal?

[@nhardy2480]

Im sorry, but just because items are cheap- morally you should not support the oppressive Chinese government 😢 Kia and Hyundai are not dictatorships.

[@beberforumer9715]

china supports the palestine struggle. the UK was instrumental in colonizing palestine thru the Balfour declaration. so also dont buy UK prpducts eh

[@kl9518]

90% of Chinese people support the Chinese government, which is better than the 40% British or American government. You are just a victim of western propaganda.

[@barriewilliams4526]

Yamaha's 321cc MT-03 is quick, with a top speed of over 100 MPH. I know😉

[@brucegroom1929]

Chinese bikes are getting better. BUT Japanese got their act together fast and within 10 years in UK, were market leaders and acknowledged Way ahead and more reliable than UK bikes at the time. That's Not 30 or 40 years ago. That is more like 54 years ago 1970. Even now Chinese bikes mostly have way shorter service intervals than Honda , Yamaha etc. A Sure sign they are still nowhere near as reliable. Their resale. Devalue also reflects this.

[@SkinPeeleR]

My mash tt40 is still going strong.

[@bobbydill6388]

I see a Whovian in the room.

[@geoffbroderick403]

like your videos,different, there are chinese factory's that viery in quality most companies source these better factories,interesting the older kawasaki 650 twin is a engine that is extensively used by most Chinese manufacturers,a good video would be a one on royal enfield if them all overweight and underpowered comparison 1976 yamaha tt500 50 kg lighter similar power comparison

[@mm-hq4qh]

quality is a big ??? and ktm need new crank shaft at 20 000 km so same shit

[@tauncfester3022]

When you go off on the "aircooled bikes" with problems ones and such.. And the examples you chose are what, the Honda clone CG125 engines based on the Lifan that Honda allowed (licensed..)? Do you know the entire history of Lifan's acquiring the tooling for their CG based engines that everyone and their dog cloned in China? Honda sent to Lifan their entire factory tooling for making the CG series. The bike Honda meant for 3rd world markets where maintenance would be infrequent, the same model made in Brazil for South American markets. The CEO of Lifan was interviewed in The Guardian online about their rise to being a global manufacturer. He didn't have nice things to say about Honda's old tooling. Lifan spent over 300 million of their own capitol rebuilding the tooling to ISO 9001 specifications. Honda basically sent Lifan their tooling that should have been scrapped. Lifan did not "steal" the Honda CG125 CG engine. And also their CG200 version is still being made and it's pretty rugged and has a few improvements over the older Honda CG model(s). Considering the CG engines are a very clever OHV design that revs up to 8K, and they last in abusive use and primitive environments.

[@motorsforthemasses]

@tauncfester3022 The most common used air cooled Chinese engines are based on the Suzuki GN125 and Yamaha actually...but thanks for the weird lecture.

[@tauncfester3022]

@@motorsforthemasses Well I own a CG200 based engined bike. It's now got over 80K in miles. With modern bikes, yes the OHC GN 125 clones predominate, but you presented in your list a few aircooled bike's images with the CG engine clones. If it was "weirdly lecturish", you're the one who misrepresented this older engine design. I do my research and I'm friends with folks who are CG engine enthusiasts, they are some of the most durable of the early 20-aughts made Chinese aircooled engines. They came in several designs including a counterbalanced and semiauto clutch with reverse for ATVs.

[@fcalin21]

Voge 300 has a copy of an old Kawasaki engine. A bad one.

[@bigred8438]

I feel that at some point the Chinese are going to have realize that some westerners weight more than 55kg, and make their bikes accordingly. I mean l love the look of the CFMoto 800, adventure bike, but it weighs the same as my BMW R1150GS and has far less power and torque. That bike should be at least a 1000cc or better still, as a twin, 1200cc. I am 100kg, anything smaller than say the T100 865 triumph (a shit bike), l owned is not powerful enough to install confidence in me on the road, unless it has torque like the Kawasaki W800 with its under square piston stroke, bore dimensions.

[@svaralen]

I bought a chinese bike Kove 510x, excellent 500cc similar to the honda cb500x but will all accessories on it for less money. Do you have in UK Kove Motors? Check the Kove 800x, or the 450 Rally on internet 👍👌

[@brakenoodle105]

Brit here. Yes, Kove are sold in the UK.

[@motorsforthemasses]

@@svaralen yes, not any dealers near me. Will have to look into it.

[@lipsee100]

Iv been robbed,,I waited the whole vid for a mention of the Rieju Adventura 500 Legend and you ignored it ,,,,, I think it looks great and you should do a review,,, just regarding CF moto ,,, I lived in China 2009 and had a CF moto Helix scooter (it was called something else) but it was preety good and I have always had a eye on CF ,,and would not blat an eyelid about buying another.....

[@andyleeson6048]

Because it’s Spanish?

[@motorsforthemasses]

Not in the UK yet and dealers are sparce near me anyway.

[@lipsee100]

@@motorsforthemasses Actually I think its available special order from the importer (but could be wrong)

[@ianlewis2813]

I worked with British MG, they are crap ..

[@kevinbarnbrook4728]

Iphone built in Shenzhen, company owned by Taiwanese billionaire

[@motorsforthemasses]

I know.

[@marcomalo02]

Yeah right. Buy a Chinese motorcycle. Go ahead.

[@mullers48]

I have had a one for two years and it’s fantastic. Benelli has dealerships for support and superb quality, and I bought a brand new bike and still had some money left over to feed the kids😊😊😊😊

[@marcomalo02]

@@mullers48 Do you know the difference? BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA...

[@SP.05]

SYM is from TAIWAN

[@motorsforthemasses]

@@SP.05 I know, I've addressed that.

[@petelyden8193]

If KTM uses CF Moto engines, why doesn't CF Moto make 990's & 1390's? I think you got that arse about face mate. Every CF review I've seen said they use KTM engines.

[@auntieprimrose4138]

CF make the smaller bikes.125,390 and the 790/890

[@petelyden8193]

@@auntieprimrose4138 The 390, 790 and 890 are made under license from KTM I think you'll find.

[@motorsforthemasses]

It's not arse about face at all. CF Moto have been building engines for KTM for years. I know you may find that a hard pill to swallow but it's true.

[@petelyden8193]

@@motorsforthemasses What I'm trying to make clear is that CF Moto makes KTM engines 'Under License' which means they use KTM blueprints for manufacture. You made it sound like CF Moto make their own designed engines, which in some cases may be true, but not the 390, 690 or 790.

[@stephenreiss10]

⁠@@petelyden8193doesn’t that show that CF have the quality control measures in place and support of a quality motorcycle company like KTM. I think you and Motor for the Masses are in agreement!

[@markbatt-rawden7950]

If you don't mind throwing it away after 12 months if there's anything left of it then go ahead 😅

[@BarnettSpeedSuzukiThou]

Why would we support Chinese bikes, directly or indirectly?

[@SS-ck3ew]

Hmmmm...If they support you via affordable (not CHEAP!), quality made motorbikes then why would you not buy one? Any reason at all is fine for you and you alone. For others it may well come down to that is what they can afford and they want and need a warranty. The few CFMoto bikes I have seen (and met the owners) here in the USA are for all intents and purposes, excellent or so their owners say. I have not met nor seen a Benelli on the road here. Again, if you do not want one, then do not buy one. There are excellent brands from China and then there are garbage ones. Do your own research and decide. Yes or No. Either way it's your choice and does not affect anyone else. All the best! SS in commifornia, USA.

[@BarnettSpeedSuzukiThou]

​@@SS-ck3ewlol

[@davidbarwick5041]

Rieju are Spanish, NOT Chinese.

[@motorsforthemasses]

Yes, I have no idea what happened there. I would like to say blonde moment...if I have the hair; and feel embarrassed for putting Rieju in here....I have no excuse.

[@TommieTrumper-TFC1200]

My problem is I want to know my things haven’t been made by slaves and children.

[@volkiruski1221]

The most serious factories do not use childeren and so called slaves...

[@stanwbaker]

Then definitely buy Chinese. They have laws over there; enforced and everything.

[@SkinPeeleR]

Throw away your phone too then.

[@alfabethev2.074]

N o t h i n g from shina is worth buying ! Nothing !!☝🏻

[@motorsforthemasses]

@alfabethev2.074 wow, your house must be almost empty.

[@alfabethev2.074]

@@motorsforthemasses Just stating the facts !

[@motorsforthemasses]

@@alfabethev2.074 Love the feng shui look do you?

[@ilpatriz]

08:00 It's incredible what a country is able to achieve when they're using slave's labour 😅

[@ADHDIYuk]

Cue the inevitable moany whiners talking about how bad Chinese bikes are.

[@cedhome7945]

Just look at the no name bikes on market place....lots of dead Chinese bike broken down and no spare parts back up ( I was in the bike trade so I do have a lot of experience with people asking have you got bits for a Ying tong di long .... sorry mate never heard of them. But you go ahead and spend your money)

[@stanwbaker]

@@cedhome7945 Plenty of parts. No initiative.

[@mickyg7537]

Show the bikes less talk mick

[@CrapKerouac]

The CF Moto CLX is one ugly ducking, and it needs a restyle, immediately. Then watch the sales climb. What China has in common with Japan, is that they're entering 20 years of economic stagnation, or what was called “the lost decade in Japan.” Obviously, that lasted 20 years. China couldn't prop up their economy anymore and the countries declining population that's projected to cause a tax/labour shortage leading to a decline on GDP, a large population of elderly and fewer people to look after them. That's the tip of the iceberg with China. Some claim economic collapse. As we speak there's a polycrises taking place in the China, things are a mess. It will be interesting to see what becomes of manufacturing in the next decade, imagine China moving manufacturing to India or Thailand?

[@beberforumer9715]

really? then why ia the US so scared of the Chinese economy if its going down? and what other economy out there have the technologicql advancent? the US ?

[@CrapKerouac]

@@beberforumer9715 The Chinese government set a growth target of 5% by and got it, but the general consensus is that they cooked the books to get there, they couldn't reach 5% using stimulus, that says something. Chinese companies will still advance, the tech sector is more important than ever with the slowing economy since the data shows that is losing its manufacturing dominance.