465 RSW Oregon Chainsaw Sharpener Defect Discovered

[@mickeycruz912]

Nice video, thank you for making it. I wish you would have shown how to find the angle problem

[@SimpleLife1971]

I agree! I would love to see how Jerry determined the angular difference. I find everything he's mentioned in these videos to be spot on and can see the cause and affect especially not cutting straight.

[@LucyGirl2023]

I really like the new intro it looks great.

[@turtleie]

Me too

[@bobl2995]

Great video Jerry thanks for all your hard work Mellisa 👍

[@josephtaverna1287]

Hey Jerry nice tutorial on a saw chain lol stay safe God bless you and yours

[@paullanier8280]

The truth, many times I've watched other topic videos you have made and found many similarities to things I've done as a farm hand. You are quite the craftsman on any task to set out to do. You accomplish as much in one day as most hard working men can do in a week. I've learned so much and also make my own tools to do some tasks . Life is much richer with your efforts. I will catch up on all videos when I retire. Hope it happens tomorrow.

[@rickyretic]

Worked as a tool; and die maker for many years. When making cutting tools such as endmills we used one of two wheels, CBN or diamond wheels. The CBN stands for Cubic Boron Nitride. Love the videos, been a fan for quite some time now.

[@michaelpthompson]

Keep up the good work and ignore the critics. I'm often amazed by people who assume you've never tried the obvious solutions.

[@smbrumbaugh]

Million dollar tip just learning about those wheels! Thanks for the vid.

[@b.cguitarcovers2347]

My dad loved to burn his wood too, he just loved it, it was a hobby to make the house as warm as he could lol, but he left us 1 year ago God bless him❤, you and him would have clicked well.

[@markgandcompany]

I've only used electric chainsaws in my life so this is all new to me. Still, I always learn something new in all of your videos.

[@zapa1pnt]

Even an electric chainsaw blade needs to be sharpened.

[@markgandcompany]

@@zapa1pntYes I know. I only used it twice to trim a small tree.

[@joehead1294]

Wondering if your chain vise is centered under the motor spindle when at grinding height with the wheel in use at the time.

[@jeffgrier8488]

Thanks for the tip Jerry, i've always wanted to try one of those electric sharpeners.

[@willwagner3402]

Great tip. I’ll definitely try that stone. Never knew they made those for chainsaw sharpeners.

[@wilmeaux12]

Hay, that's a good looking door back there.

[@RandySchartiger]

yep yep if the chain isn't near perfect on each side it will pull one way or the other and be impossible to cut a straight line, been there, that's a cool rig you have there for sharpening.

[@jthonn]

Nice video, I don't use a chainsaw that often, so I sharpen the hard way. I actually did it today, got the saw all set up, then it wouldn't cut hot butter. I put the dang chain on backwards. It ain't easy being me either Jerry.

[@Shadowmanbluesbluesman]

Love the new intro, great video

[@Poolguppy101]

I've had good luck with hand sharpening my chains, cuts straight and even pulls some curls off of hedge! nice machine there Jerry, one day I'll buy me one!

[@davidgagnon2849]

I worked at two different small engine shops for nine years. We used the pink grinding wheels as that's all we had for them because that's what Oregon supplied us with back then. I don't know how many hundred chains I sharpened, but it was a lot. We would always soak the chain in our parts washer, then put it on the wire wheel to clean the pitch out of the cutters. We didn't have much burning of the tooth by doing it that way. Also cleaning and reshaping the grinding wheels with the trueing rock every so often. Our sharpener had a forward and reverse switch for the motor. We had been told that was so that you could always have the grinding coming OUT of the tooth and not dragging the chrome across the gullet. The only caveat is when sharpening one side of the chain, you have the sparks and steel flying towards you.

[@billberry7444]

I was stationed at Fort Leonard Wood and dont remember a day the wind wasn't blowing

[@Peasmouldia]

Micro climate. It's definitely a thing. We used to watch thunder storms split up and bypass our farm because of the topography. Thanks Jerry.

[@zapa1pnt]

Many years ago, I looked out the window, to see it pouring down rain. Across the street. 😮😮😮😮 Well, it's gotta end somewhere. 🙄😏

[@nickbellinger1047]

cause i'll give you a thumbs up mate good job finding that our i will be putting a protractor on my chain after that ....thanks

[@edgarmilson8686]

jJerry, it took you 3 minutes from 9:32 to 12:32 it might have taken a few seconds less because you were explaining how the machine was made wrong. Nice job my brother!!

[@johnb5519]

We all have chainsaws on our minds. I just finished rebuilding our old pioneer chainsaw today, that I bought my dad for Christmas back around 1975 or 76. I found that when I got chains sharpened from a shop with a grinder, when out in the field, touchups with a file were hard to do, because the teeth were all hardened from the grinding process.

[@joelhill4107]

Hi Jerry. What about the rake teeth though? Or doe you still need to do those by hand?

[@joshharnrss4306]

Do u ever have to file down ur rakers? Because I have to when I hand file my chains or they don’t cut shavens just dust...

[@MobilMobil-kv5ke]

Agreed. The rakers set the depth of the cut of the tooth “behind” it. The cutting tooth has a slight angle “upward” and as you sharpen, the progression of the cutting edge back down the tooth means a shallower cut in relation to the raker. My Stihl hand sharpening tool has a round file for the tooth and a flat file to knock off a tiny bit of the raker. I have a Harbor Freight sharpener and I don’t use the protractor gauge on the machine. It’s just a suggestion for the angle. I’m careful to maintain the factory attack angle and use the machine turned off to get the angle right. Every other sharpening session is a hand sharpening to get at that raker. Good comment. ^^^^^

[@j31355a]

Thanks for issuing this update. Since you discovered the problem, do you still use the Dremel to remove the bur from the top plate?

[@sgnt9337]

Yep. Tooth length matters. I have run into same issue with handsaws and sharpening.

[@mccypr]

Check out this video. Go to about 4:10. The way Ugo cuts his sound hole is amazing! Thanks!✌️🌞😎

[@tomcren59]

Do you ever file your depth gauges?

[@RosaStringWorks]

Yes often

[@donaldfisher8556]

Jerry this is a great video. You mentioned wiring the motor so it would turn the other way, why? Maybe I just missed the reason.

[@DAVIDBrown-zp8sz]

Hey Jerry the camera is over here !😁

[@rc391995]

You know I got nine of those Oregon grinders got cbn wheels in six of them . font ask me why . I think its a pain in the butt to keep changing wheels out and just like you I once noticed by shear accident that one of those grinders was off by 21\2 degrees on both side. I took that puppy apart took the motor assembly off laid the back portion on a level surface took the degree marker off rebored the holes just slightly bigger got a true angle finder and found the true thirty degree mark on each side super glued the angle finder down in the correct spot and then replaced the screws worked like brand new money for me.

[@espenunnvik6602]

I live in Norway, I do own a 200 m" house and you burn a lot less firewood than I do, This year I for sure burned a lot more firewood than usually. I do not envy you a bit.

[@arctichare8185]

I have a question: I am in Canada, looking for an armrest for a mandolin. Do you provide them? What are your thoughts regarding armrests?

[@bldrmtnman]

You found this by accident? Did you figure out a way to test your theory of R @ 30º and L @ 25º. I have a knock off Northern tool model, wondering if I have a similar problem, but would like some way of testing before assuming it has the same fault. Though I have been having problems with the cuts wanting to curve, which leads me to believe it may be a similar issue. Please let me know when you have a moment. Had another question for you. When cutting the rakers (depth gauge) what angle do you use when setting that, I'm assuming you dress the wheel to 55º and use that for cutting the rakers? Thanks for your videos, any suggestions would be welcome.

[@alandust2188]

What a lightbulb moment. I've been reversing the motor for the one side since watching your previous video..what a difference it made. However, as always even before made that change, I noticed that each time I sharpened the chain half teeth kept getting shorter. I just wasn't smart enough to figure it out. THANKS SO MUCH!

[@RosaStringWorks]

I forgot to include that I also change the back angle to 55ﾟ that helped a lot

[@marchaller548]

I trust in you, pal!!!

[@bozona1mm]

I had bought a cheap one and ended up going back to hand sharpening but yours seems to work really well. I wish I hadn't thrown it out cause I would have tried that diamond blade. BTW your makers seemed to be a bit high for the length of the teeth but that might just have been the camera angle.

[@jimlepeu]

That must be one of those air conditioned valleys 🤠😂🇬🇧

[@RickRomanelli]

I can't believe people complain as much as you say. You seem pretty experienced and particular to me.

[@RosaStringWorks]

Go back and read the comments on the 1st video

[@zapa1pnt]

People complain about everything he does. "That's the wrong tool, you're holding it wrong,use a different glue, why do you do that (negatively). It goes on and on.

[@DB-xp9px]

on the first side it appears u had it set to around 33 degrees rather than 30. was this on purpose? u mentioned being at 30 and 25 for the 2 sides...

[@BillsGarageWorks]

With full chisel you should be tilting the base 10 degrees as well!

[@monsterkxf]

Awesome! Is that a 395xp in the background?? 🤘🤘

[@RosaStringWorks]

372xp

[@monsterkxf]

@@RosaStringWorks You can’t go wrong with a 372. After watching the vid I think I’ll hang up the Granberg hand filer and go with your setup 🤘🤘

[@jenniferwhite6089]

learn on one of them sharpers when i worked in the summer for my uncle in his sawmill they had to of the and set up using one to cut one and the other one for the other way we had chains to sharpen too we just put in a one the does it by itself half-million-dollar machine take as long as it did when one man the sharper this year we did do great all we cut was sold before we sawed them to lumber next year we will start to cut down trees again last ten years cut a very small amount mostly clean up trees we did

[@strings1955]

I can only assume you contacted these guys about your problems with the unit. Did they ever respond and what did they say?

[@ElderlyIron]

We're always 10 degrees colder here in our horse shoe canyon.

[@michaelmoore7975]

You may have cut more wood but I guarantee I've sharpened way WAY more chains. I use the *EFCO LR36941 Type 136* it has a huge reversible motor with on-off-on switch and 110v. It is DNA (dead nuts accurate) the best I've ever used, and I'm pretty sure I've tried them all. A couple habits I use are I will either wire wheel the chain or wash it in the naptha tank to get rid of oils, sap, etc. The reason is if you don't, it "blues" and causes hot spots and ruins the heat treatment and causes more frequent sharpening. It also prevents the wheel from getting contaminated and also causing bluing. I also "bounce" the wheel off the chain a little bit at a time until the tooth is sharpened all the way to the bottom. About 3-or 4 bounces and the tooth is completely sharpend. Bouncing allows a bit of cooling interval to also prevent bluing. My wheels last 10+ yrs. They get used all day long, every day, about 60 chains per day when it's real busy. Don't get me wrong, those CBN plated wheels are fantastic, but I use the regular ones because I do so many different size chains and switch them out often, plus I can contour the shape with a dressing stone if necessary. t all adds up to a sharpened chain that stays sharp for a long, long time. So long it's unbelievably unreal the time between sharpenings. My customers are always amazed how long they are able to cut without re-sharpening. And cuts big huge chips instead of small giblets. Chains last _forever._ It may seem it would take longer to sharpen, but my turnaround time is 7 minutes. And that's with it still on the saw. If they bring in just the chain, it's a little over 4 minutes. They can stay and watch, get a cup of coffee, and I'm done before they finish their coffee. My motto is "If you blue it, you blew it."

[@WhiteDragon689]

Well Jerry, it maybe cheaper to get a Dragon to heat your house.... LOL I feel your pain brother.

[@K7classicrockfan]

Hello Jerry, have you tried surrounding the perimeter of your house with rigid foam insulation(buried in the ground)? It makes the permafrost go much deeper. Perhaps this would help? Thanks for the video, have fun!

[@zapa1pnt]

Jerry has been dealing with this for 30 years. He has contemplated Everything.

[@davidens8204]

lol your sense of humour is so dry I'm coffin dust..hee hee hee

[@alandust2188]

Opps, forgot to ask....with the CBN Wheel do you still reverse the grinding motor? ALSO, I purchased the CBN wheel this morning and sent an email to the company telling them about you. Hope others will do the same, there is power in numbers.

[@bruceducker2029]

Irony is I have had to sharpen the "blades" in the field with a guide and file. Not pleasant but what had to be done. Thanks Jerry

[@kthwkr]

Get Mustie1 to add a two cycle motor to a sharpener like Jerrys. That way you can use it in the field. He just fixed a 2 cycle powered blender with handlebars. Lord knows we been needing that.

[@MrBmgbluz]

Being a professional musician my whole life Ive avoided this kind of work like the plague but I found this video very entertaining as I do like mechanical procedures. Thanks for another interesting video. Now how about that 12 string?

[@zapa1pnt]

Patience, grasshopper.

[@helmutdiggy6874]

I sharpen by hand and I’m terrible at it . Have you used a fuel injected Husqvarna ? I’m considering buying one . I’m looking for a light saw with decent horsepower for maintaining bike trails . Take care .

[@zapa1pnt]

Take a look at the Stihl 2 in 1 sharpener. There is also an identical one, from a German company. Compare prices. They both have very good reviews. One would, no doubt, help you a lot.

[@Joe-mz6dc]

You should make a chainsaw themed guitar.

[@billsterling6485]

You can make the chips fly now Jerry. And that's a chain hee hee....... ya a chain with a lot of small blades hee hee....

[@CALVINLNIKONT]

Why wouldn't you use a carpenter's square to make sure it was aligned just like you do on a table saw to make sure that the blade is perpendicular to the table?

[@turtleie]

Hand sharpening was giving me problems till I bought the stihl 2 in 1 sharpener

[@garymertz6249]

All your chains have a line on top of each tooth showing the proper angle for sharpening.

[@Mycroftsbrother]

Mr. Jerry, you need to train some beavers.

[@zapa1pnt]

Jerry, you should just move the scale plate 2-1/2*, to the left. Just 2 screws.

[@tonywampler217]

I do small engine rp Been doing it when i was 10 years old

[@brad42948]

👍

[@oogba71]

Rosa Strings Works channel should be renamed to Rosa Firewood Unlimited.

[@davidmcausland4088]

I always thought that sharpening chainsaw chains was a difficult time consuming job, Oh how wrong was i.

[@zapa1pnt]

It can be, for those who cannot afford or at least justify making it easier.

[@55time3]

Bucking billy has some good videos on your tube ,sharpene

[@jonerlandson5565]

*thermal imaging* .... that way you know...

[@johnsee7269]

Wood stoves are not practical. Get a steel one... ha ha ha ha... 🤓

[@zapa1pnt]

That kind of wood stove is called a camp fire. 🤣🤣

[@Smokey66s]

How many cords of wood would it take you to build a new house, I cut a lot less and your knees will go about a year before your back. Time to sell your concrete house 🪵. IT’S A CHAIN!

[@wiser71967]

you should live where its cold

[@zapa1pnt]

He does, in a 7000 sq ft concrete slab house, with no thermal barrier.

[@edgarmilson8686]

Jerry, you must get upset with people but you keep it all inside? I just wanted to say that you only spent about 4 and a half minutes to do one side. I am sure that if you had everything set up and someone timing you, you could have sharpened one side in less than a minute. Regards, Edgar

[@jamespotestio1074]

How come you quit reversing the direction of the grinding wheel for the left hand cutters. I watched your video 3-4 years ago, and reversing the wheel with a drill was your claim to fame at that time.

[@SergeUnplugged]

Thought you're Robert DeNiro at first 😅😅

[@dwsnsgp]

A dished cut means that chain is not right!

[@stephboeker7835]

Wonderful video. Question : Understanding angles as a carpenter might, wouldn't you test the angle the blade comes down on the chain tooth by eye to verify the tools angle finder was true ? Most chop or sliding compound saws are adjustable as is the glass on a table saw fence w/hair line pointer. I see there really is no adjustment on your tools angle finder which is why you use different degrees to cut by. But, to take for granted that it is true "out of the box" must have been an embarrassment after 16yrs ?? If you don't learn something every day , it's time to hang it all up !! Steph, Louisiana Traveling Carpenter 33yrs

[@danielr.schafer9504]

its a good thing You dont live Fargo!

[@woodymonte]

Your carbon foot print is bigger than Al Gore's!

[@RosaStringWorks]

Unless you live in a tent and only eat off the land, you don't have much room to talk.

[@mwarrenhall7099]

I'm sure you cut lots of firewood BUT you don't know how to sharpen a saw blade, all you nee is a file and that's it.... a timber cutter does not take 20 chains out in the field or that other stuff, takes 5 min to sharpen a chain by hand ....

[@rc391995]

Hmm I use a Oregon grinder I think the man is spot on. Unlearned the drill trick from him now I'm putting in the reverse switches it does Mae a difference . I can make a chain cut better than a new one . its a simple process if you can follow directions . if you can't give up on the grinder its not for you. They made files and they made grinders for people that know how to use one.