47.3568% MAXIMUM OD with the H10, Worth it?

[@zachpettit6773]

There is no failures only learning expirences. Keep it up Exo. The perfect setup is the next one!

[@TheLilhulk1111]

Great video I think you’re doing the things that some people can’t afford to show them what’s good and what’s not good keep doing what you’re doing the people that actually crawl and do this for fun and as a hobby appreciate you 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 100%

[@KawiMikeZX10]

I’m swapping a VFD Twin into mine today. With a fusion pro and the selectable overdrive and dig I think it will be perfect in that. And I’ll use the standard VFD in my pheonix trail rig that doesn’t need that stuff.

[@77seriouspaul]

Surely too much over/under drive is just asking for the tires to break traction which is not what you want. There is definitely a sweet spot with just a bit.

[@TheLilhulk1111]

I agree 20% is almost to much for where I live the dirt is so slick

[@DadsRCGaragePNW]

The same gear set for the back giving extra wheel speed might be the answer. That way it’s just faster in general equally.

[@Slaters_RC]

Waiting to see one with some power and paddle tires or something turned into a basher like the lazernut

[@johngookinsable]

My opinion is too much OD. Ive found less is more especially on side hills. It tends to drag more than it actually digs so you loose traction and it slides off course. JMO we welcome yours. Thanks again Mr. Collins for your expert work as per usual.

[@Toodles77]

Those Baja pros work better than expected

[@frankie2499]

The 2.2 class 3 tusk would be perfect for that rig

[@dennisanstadt1039]

Yep agree. Not a good test tire at all. Those things don't work. They look cool only. How do I know I have some lol.

[@dudeimdano]

You should grab the ecto12 amazing platform

[@zachpettit6773]

I have been thinking about getting one is there much for hop ups?

[@RDEnduro]

I watched one of these irl and it had dig too!

[@rcpete7055]

I always think your saying CORALLY when you say CROWLEY 😂

[@cwthemachinist]

Those new gears. They achieved lower tooth count on the ring by going to a coarser pitch tooth, not changing the fishnets of the ring or pinion. So essentially that does not change the ratio. It does it you figure it out by tooth count, but if you measure the O.D. of the gears and it's the same as the new rear gears than nothing has changed. Just like changing from 48DP spur and pinion to a MOD1. The tooth counts change but the actual ratio doesn't.

[@TheAmericanUhate]

The outer diameter of the gears isn't what determines ratio, the gear teeth count does. Same thing in full size as well. The pinion turns the same and moves the ring gear further with less teeth.

[@cwthemachinist]

@TheAmericanUhate you can have different counts of teeth on the same diameter/ pitch circle gear as long as the Diameteral pitch is altered. Example, not exact numbers: A given gear diameter with, let's say, 48 DP might have 88 teeth on it. Now take that same gear and increase to a Diameteral Pitch MOD1, and the tooth count will drop to maybe 37 or so. The outer diameter of the gear has stayed the same, but the tooth counts have been drastically changed. But, the ratio will remain the same when interacting with another gear where the same alteration has been made. Tooth counts do not change gear ratios. Altered diameters change ratios. Pulleys do not have gear teeth. But when you change the diameter, the drive ratio changes. A gear is a pulley with teeth. If if you want to get more technical. A gear is a series of levers of a determined length, fixed around a hub. Read what I wrote again. When the PITCH/aka courseness or calculated SIZE of the gear teeth changes, but the diameter remains the same, the ratio does not change. A change in tooth count will affect ratio only if the Diameteral pitch remains the same. In this instance, he changed to gears with a courser Diameteral Pitch. And if the outside diameter remains the same, but the Diameteral pitch changes, the ratio remains the same. This is why I commented with this, firstly. In full-size vehicles, tooth count changes alter ratio because the pinion gear either gets larger or smaller as well as sometimes the ring. The ring gear has to be moved/ spaced accordingly on the carrier, to accommodate the change in pinion Diameterpinion. But the Diameteral Pitch (tooth size) remains the same.Do some research. Look in Machinery's Handbook. Don't believe what the "pros" of the internet write. I've been custom machining gears and building and designing power trains for over 25 years. I know what I'm talking about.

[@TheAmericanUhate]

@cwthemachinist You're still conflating the idea that gear teeth on the OD of a gear is the same as gear teeth on the sidewall of the gear. The OD has nothing to do with the ratio on a ring & pinion type of axle gear. The outer diameter of the ring gear is not what drives the axles or gear ratio, the gear teeth on the sidewall of the gear is. The pinion gear turns 1x to turn the ring gear x amount, then a different amount with a different tooth count on the gear. A ring & pinion is not the same as a spur & pinion. A spur & pinion has the teeth on the outer diameter of the gear, not the sidewall of the gear. Diff gears in full size are exactly the same thing. The outer diameters does not change on the right gear, however pinion gears does reduce in size when going to a lower ratio gear set, and has to be shimmed forward to pair with the ring correctly.

[@cwthemachinist]

@TheAmericanUhate I'm for sure not confused. It doesn't matter whether the teeth are on the O.D. the I.D. or on the side, as in a bevel. The diameter of the gears is what drives the ratio. A ratio is a comparison of one thing to another example 4.10 : 1 = 4.1 turns of the input shaft to 1 turn of the axle shafts. When you change the "ratio" in a diff, you are either increasing or decreasing the diameter of the pinion gear. That is why you have to add a spacer behind the ring gear on a stock carrier when you go from like a 2.73 : 1 up to a 4.11 :1. It's because the pinion diameter has gotten smaller, and in turn results in it having less teeth. So the ring gear now has to be spaced over to contact the smaller diameter pinion gear. The tooth counts are used to only calculate gear ratios. The diameter of them is what determines the ratio. You use tooth counts to configure ratio because it is the quickest way to do it. Tooth count is a direct mathematical translation of the gears diameter and is an accurate way of calculating ratio. But gear tooth counts DO NOT determine ratio. Tooth counts of different Diameteral Pitches, on the same diameter gear can alter greatly. A smaller number of course gear teeth will fit on a gear than would fine pitch teeth on that same diameter gear. Think of this: a ratio of 30 teeth on a bevel or spur, mating with a pinion that has 10 teeth. The ratio is 3:1. Now take those same two diameter gears and change tooth counts. Now the spur or bevel has 75 teeth and the pinion has 25. The tooth counts have been changed drastically, but the ratio remains the same, 3:1. That is because the Diameteral Pitch of the gear teeth has gotten finer, now needing more teeth to completely fill the gear. But if you change the diameter of those same two gears, whether you also change the Pitch of the gear teeth or not. The ratio will change. This is because diameter drives ratio, tooth count does not. I can't explain it any other way. The things that I design, machine, set-up and build are all made with the principles I'm trying to describe. They all work 100% correctly and for a long time. Not much else I can say. Agree to disagree with me.

[@anthonycourtney6713]

I wanted this but looks like I might just build another Capra

[@Poizdrc]

1.5 to 1 is 33% OD. 👍 im def getting some baja pros!! They look right at home!

[@Revvenge7]

Hey, wanted to ask, have you got the 8Bl150 g2 speed run video yet? Thanks.

[@bbeckers24]

I'm thinking the overdrive will be more beneficial when you get more front weight bias.

[@nickhathaway4617]

Staring still might be worth it plus it could work better with different tires

[@donniehunter309]

I wonder how much of that was tires. I have yet to see those tires work well on the rocks in my area.

[@bucksrcworld8119]

this solidified to me this is not a crawler. bouncer/light basher, but mostly a trail runner. makes me want one even more. Install vp hardened gears and a fusion pro 2300kv and send it. definitely not worth it adding overdrive.

[@ExocagedRC]

I agree

[@brandonupchurch5015]

Yeah I think it is classed more with bombers, gatekeepers, and wraiths

[@dennisanstadt1039]

It's got one of the worst tires on it. If this solidifies it for you then more fun for the rest of us.

[@bucksrcworld8119]

@@dennisanstadt1039 I have wanted vp to come out with a buggy/non crawler only vehicle, so this fits the basher in me type of style🤙

[@hotboyracing]

I’m running the twin in mine with the 2300 fusion with only 21% over drive and I recommend that so you can turn the over drive up or down

[@LonnieMason-gy6kd]

Hey JOE, what do you suggest as the overdrive for the front of a axial Capra four-wheel steer?

[@bobbymulwee7641]

Try the Megalithics

[@postalacidity]

How much overdrive? All of it!

[@meirdeaph]

Awesome 👍

[@jetman1963]

Vitavon bellcrank system you did a video a year ago recommends a 3 mm spring to work properly. What is the part number please?

[@themountain59]

Why didn't you go 27/8 from SSD ? Would be probably the sweet spot😊

[@ExocagedRC]

I've had these in the bin for a few years so I put them to use

[@fallencrawlerrc4587]

5.25 tusks makes the difference

[@RobConant-qb7bi]

Could you try again with the Hyrax tires? I saw another KZbinr climb a steep rock, almost straight up, with the Hyrax tires and got up. Just a thought.

[@ExocagedRC]

I don't have any hyrax

[@oddo6926]

​@@ExocagedRCall I have is hyrax's I don't know what else to use Also I wish my ryft had difs like That, I keep snapping the screws

[@themountain59]

No offense but there are quite a bunch of tires who would do better🙄

[@Blahblah-vc5zi]

** THATS CRAZY THOSE OLDER GEARS FIT IN A BRAND NEW RIG. THAT ALMOST NEVER HAPPENS IN RC. **

[@maxwell5428]

Except it does. Ar44, ar45, Capra axles and most of the vanquish axles use ar44 gears. Or I should say it’s all compatible.

[@ohnoadventures]

👍👍😁

[@LogainTheHumane]

the problem with overdrive that people don't realize is that you're forcing the vehicle to constantly break traction. It's good situationally, but not 100% of the time. Think of abs braking. If your brake lock up you can easily lose control because you broke traction. The goal is to not lose traction in the first place for better stability and handling. Well with overdrive your front and rear tires are in a constant battle of tug of war, causing you to have terrible traction

[@ExocagedRC]

True on all that. They turn better though.

[@dennisanstadt1039]

Takes a truck with 54% nose weight garbage tires that never work no matter if you run for a summer on different trucks that you know work. No amount of Od will fix it.

[@old-rcplane-phart]

😁👍

[@CM-ig2pf]

👍😁😎✌️

[@chriskryder2994]

Plan B high speed desert racer and launch it

[@shawndoucet4751]

u can still add 26% in the transmision also XD

[@ExocagedRC]

LOL man this is a lot as it sits!

[@shawndoucet4751]

@@ExocagedRC would be funny too see just for fun 🤣

[@dennisanstadt1039]

Still Crap tires

[@standforjesus7427]

It's not a crawler it's a trail truck in a rock racer cage I call it a vanquish fail

[@meirdeaph]

Omg you must be hating cause you don't have one😊

[@standforjesus7427]

@@meirdeaph no I have a Phoenix a vrd and 15 other rc's if I wanted one I would have one, no interest and the more videos I watch I'm less interested

[@Toodles77]

Bet ya he get one when they’re in stock

[@shaynejenkins446]

Best selling Vanquish crawler to date.

[@Toodles77]

@@standforjesus7427 I know mines quite capable I’d put it up against any other straight axle flat skid out there!

[@JasonGunn418]

That was a FAILURE......... Only difference was the turning. Either your skills sux'd or the vehicle is just junk. I think it was a combination of both.

[@meirdeaph]

You dont know the difference from rc and matchbox! How whould you know what good is?

[@markcole6475]

Coming from a guy that does a video on sticky tape removal 😅

[@themountain59]

Please explain "failure"... enlighten us 😊

[@zachpettit6773]

In this community we like to uplift each other. It called trial and error. You have to experiment with different setups to reach perfection. Keep your sht comments to yourself or leave our community

[@TheLilhulk1111]

He is testing so others do not have to waste the time and money

[@RRCCONSTRUCTIONMININGREC-tl8yf]

very nice thanks for the post.😊😊👍👍🛻🚙🚘