Thanks for putting this together. I'm not able to devote as much focused practice time as I would like, so I listen to this and other audio while I work just to keep the sound pumping into my brain. I tell myself that it will have some helpful effect; We'll see, though. Every little step.
@HamRadioQRP6 жыл бұрын
Once you're brain is automatically recognizing the common words it gives you bandwidth to work out the uncommon words. Eventually it just flows like any other language. Keep up the practice and I hope to work you on air soon.
@teangaire Жыл бұрын
Nice to hear this. It is never too late for this. I am an ex military radio operator. I never used an automatic key, all hand key stuff. This example given is good for practising, typing it as I hear it, but it is a little odd with the longer space between individual letters, but still no problem keeping up. With the slightly longer spaces between letters in this sending - this spacing was actually better for accuracy when sending and receiving groups of numbers - I find it easier in this case to just listen to and type each individual letter, as if receiving numbers, rather than waiting to hear and type complete words. I found that complete words occurred more naturally at about 25wpm or higher (but not too much higher!!!). I will just do a little bit for the craic: try us again animal point mother world near build self ears father head stand... I remember the navy lads being really good at this. It is sad that morse sending and receiving (by hand or by easier typewriter) is now being neglected as a skill in the services because during wartime the electronics can be disabled and you might be left with the need for good manual morse operators to continue communicating efficiently. I cannot imagine being a qualified radio operator without both touch typing and good morse at the ready, but maybe that is just me being behind the times... Thanks again, HamRadioQRP, for the opportunity to listen to well sent code and to wipe some cobwebs off an old skill... :) I have hit the subscribe button!
@HamRadioQRP Жыл бұрын
Well, it's just a hobby now. I'd never qualify as a paid operator.
@robertaldrich2635 Жыл бұрын
What exactly is this? " I will just do a little bit for the craic: try us again animal point mother world near build self ears father head stand... I remember the navy lads being really good at this." Any way I can practice, I want to try that also! Bob, KL7EAL
@nofear88226 жыл бұрын
i studing cw only whit your videos.From zero, i listen now this video very well.Tnx vr much.I hp to meet u in freq soon,i waiting for exam to become an Om,only cw forever .Ciao Grazie de Gabriele from Sicily.
@BoB4jjjjs3 жыл бұрын
That's brilliant, by the time you were a third down, before it started to scroll I was picking out some letters. There must be hope for me yet. I think sending would be easier than receiving Morse.
@teangaire Жыл бұрын
Two years ago... I would say you have a grip on things by now. Even so, for anyone reading, receiving is the first thing to do. Practise receiving first, and the sending rhythm will become more natural later.
@guygardner71562 жыл бұрын
These comments are all over the map, and so many complainers! What a bunch of ungrateful whiners. I say thank you for taking time and effort to help those learning or improving their game. Fine job, and good work on all your videos. 73 KJ7OWM
@StephenCooteNZ Жыл бұрын
I agree Guy. I'm grateful that someone has taken the time to help us improve our morse.. I think if others have ideas they think are better they should upload their perfect videos to help enlighten us all. :)
@kulanchandrasekaran446211 ай бұрын
Well said. Thank you.
@jediosu5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for these practice videos, I use several of them each day!
@HamRadioQRP5 жыл бұрын
Good to hear, Chad. Hope to work you on the air soon.
@brucewright1662 жыл бұрын
Thank you for providing a most convenient venue of practice sessions for those new to the radiotelegraph code and others as cw enthusiasts. 73, WC5CW
@richardp51613 жыл бұрын
This particular video is much more readable than most of the others in this series. Me thinks the di/dah ratio is closer to 1:4 and word spacing is a little wider than normal. It resembles what I call a "good fist" operator. Anyone else notice??
@HamRadioQRP3 жыл бұрын
The newer training videos have more standard spacing. This video is one of the older ones with Farnsworth timing.
@bafgcde2 жыл бұрын
@@HamRadioQRP Being yet in a letter recognition phase, this video is very helpful. 🐌 I expect as I begin to respond quicker, that the regular spacing will help me to grasp words.
@teangaire Жыл бұрын
Nice clear morse.
@KevinModerow6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this and all your CW videos.
@sleeve86514 жыл бұрын
Like riding a bike ! Unfortunately, I have not worked any C.W. for many months, if not longer, and when I ran across this, after just awakening, I grabbed an old notebook and pen, to see if I could copy anything ? Glad to report after about a full page of copy, I quit ! But was tickled to find I could still copy, and like I have thought before, that breaks from running code, for me, seem beneficial ! I especially noted the spacing ! A luxury many times not afforded on air ! Hi ! '73 and GOD BLESS !
@trig67124 жыл бұрын
Good Practise for me at 79 yrs so Old Brain struggles to keep up a bit now
@SamSung-jq4ho3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the great content! Keep up the great work!
@robertomerced11843 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the wonderful job I enjoy listening.
@TheOKBluseman3 жыл бұрын
I became licensed as a Novice in 1978. I really struggled with CW. I lost interest until Novice enhancement in the 1980's with 10M voice. I go busy and in 3 months I went from Novice to passing my Extra written with 100%. But I could only manage a little over 13wpm so I got stuck with an Advanced license. I tried the Extra code test about a year later and did better but still failed. I took the written again and got another 100% and said I'd be back. About a year later (and 4 days before my first son was born) I tried again and failed by one question and I quit. About six months ago I started helping a new ham get started. He and his wife and both interested in CW. So now I've gotten the bug again. I LOVE these videos of common words. As children we learn to talk long before we learn to spell. Why should CW be any different? At 5wpm - 10wpm it's easier to get caught in the trap of counting characters. That's a KILLER. Doing common words (once you have the basic characters down) allows your mind to hear the code as words. With very little effort I started copying the 15wpm at about 75-80% (making note of the characters that throw me off). I'm doing 23wpm at about 25-30%. So very glad I found your videos! KA5ECX
@HamRadioQRP3 жыл бұрын
Very nice that helping those other hams got you interested again
@douglamb88944 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these vids! CW took a back seat for a few years, and now I'm trying to build my head copy back up. Very helpful for me! 73 de K4EK
@braininavatnow91972 жыл бұрын
I like the spacing for learning. This vid works well at 75% speed for me.
@theghostlyfigure99895 жыл бұрын
I can write the words so listening to the individual letters and words is helping listening wise.
@donovandyer98932 жыл бұрын
Good videos, I would like one with 500 words at 30wpm, and farnsworth spacing? I use software to change these into an audio file and play them in the car to and from work. My goal is to carry on a conversation at 30+ and I know that word recondition is a must. But I sometimes get a word right away and while celebrating, two more words just went by, hi hi.
@quantomic11064 жыл бұрын
Listing to this in my homemade bunker is a bit more surreal.
@kulanchandrasekaran44625 жыл бұрын
Another great video. Thanks again. PS Would have been less intimidating if it had been divided into groups of 50 or 100 words at a time :-)
@HamRadioQRP5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I did the top 500 because that's how I learned, by just listening to them while going for walks during my lunch time.
@kulanchandrasekaran446211 ай бұрын
@@HamRadioQRP👍
@luisantonioherrera1756 Жыл бұрын
Soy fans de la telegrafía, aún lo practico como forma de seguir practicando
@jertres28875 жыл бұрын
Change it so the character appears after or as soon as the code for the character finishes. Currently the visual character appears as the audio character starts.
@SuperJV4x Жыл бұрын
it seems like my brain wants to see the letter immediately after the code is played rather than appearing mid code as I imagine that's how it would be understood in practice since its not possible to anticipate if the next signal will be dot or dash but only after hearing it complete would the letter appear to my brain
@racoondiver4 жыл бұрын
This is a great help, thanks de gi0ggy.
@zamphzibaha Жыл бұрын
This is great, thank you
@richardcorfield99265 жыл бұрын
I wonder how many distinct (or common) syllables there are in English. You can start to notice things like LL OO OU TH. If you think of copying as tokenising, then the fewer tokens you have to deal with at the lower rate the easier it is. Individual letters give too many tokens, but common combinations then words.... (And of course 5NN, RST and as I'm learning in CWOps "Tnx Fer Call" and "UR RST", "MY RIG", "NAME"...)
@HamRadioQRP5 жыл бұрын
Excellent idea. I'll need to make a syllable video
@dagfinnsvanaes8734 жыл бұрын
Yes Please do it.
@paulinmt21856 жыл бұрын
Nice code practice. Farnsworth spacing in there? Seems slow to me, but then again, I'm working 27 - 30 WPM. Starting at mid-20's I can hear complete words. Farnsworth inhibits my word recognition. Extra spacing between words is helpful so I created some MP3's with no Farnsworth, but with a bit more space between words. Next I want to try 30+ WPM with a repeat of each word several times in a row to bolster word recognition. I'm using a Begali Expedition (great paddle) and working to get my sending rate above 25 WPM, HIHI. 73 ES TNX DE N6MGN
@HamRadioQRP6 жыл бұрын
I had the keyer set for normal intercharacter spacing. Word spacing is 3 times longer than standard.
@n1rbd4 жыл бұрын
This definitely seems like some Farnsworth is in there.
@teangaire Жыл бұрын
25 wpm is a lovely rate when well sent and clear.
@normangeuder78064 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!! I need this. I am an Extra, however I am struggling to QRQ at about this speed. This will be very useful. Found this by accident! 73 de NG9U.
@HamRadioQRP4 жыл бұрын
Good to know
@greennin2 жыл бұрын
The last word is "among", that's pretty sus
@udod63723 жыл бұрын
………please : how many letters has a word? (for the speed) per Minute ? Thank you DK4VR
@HamRadioQRP3 жыл бұрын
WPM speed is based on the word PARIS which has 50 DIT elements.
@PreparednessVeteran2 жыл бұрын
Great practise, however, the spaces between each word does not match the overall speed of 23wpm. Would be better if pages from books were sent at the speeds on your videos - Great for practise for many
@HamRadioQRP2 жыл бұрын
Yes, you are right. The newer practice videos I posted have standard spacing throughout.
@jaymepenner68146 жыл бұрын
-100 bias -50v cuttoff group1
@robertaldrich2635 Жыл бұрын
I like the format, easy to copy single words rather than sentences, so I'm getting very good at recognizing them. Later I'll do sentences and have been practicing copying off the air as well when conditions allow. Bob, KL7EAL
@HamRadioQRP Жыл бұрын
I'm glad it's helpful
@robj16464 жыл бұрын
In my opinion, the spacing between the individual letters is a bit too long. The space should be three (3) dot lengths. This doesn't sound as a smooth code to me, I am sorry to say.
@sergeybelov16824 жыл бұрын
OK, well done, but I think it would be better to include common Q-code words, which are used in real CW QSO. For beginners I'd recommend nice programme named "CWCUTE".
@HamRadioQRP4 жыл бұрын
Some videos are specifically Q-codes and other abbreviations kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2q2eGunmJiEoZI
@darrelldundee71983 жыл бұрын
30 meters cw goin at 25 wpm...73s KJ3A
@thirtycrows4 жыл бұрын
Too much Farnsworth for my taste. This takes away the natural rhythm. If any I prefer a word spacing only.
@HamRadioQRP4 жыл бұрын
Yep, it has lots of space to help those who are learning
@StephenCooteNZ Жыл бұрын
@@HamRadioQRP And I've been grateful for that extra spacing thanks. It gives me a little more time to think about what I got and what I missed. Thank you for giving us your time and attention.
@fredverkool55994 жыл бұрын
thanks
@myprivatelife3704 жыл бұрын
What am i doing here?
@TrystansWorkbench4 жыл бұрын
I suppose you've had enough looking at cute cats on KZbin.
@evertwenderpirt63282 жыл бұрын
Spacing between words too long?
@HamRadioQRP2 жыл бұрын
Yes the space between words is double the standard. I found it easier to learn that way but YMMV. The newer videos I posted are using standard spacing throughout.
@Bouvier_des_Flemish5 ай бұрын
多謝
@daryllamble7326 жыл бұрын
Seems a bit slower than 23 wpm to me.
@kulanchandrasekaran44625 жыл бұрын
Daryl Lamble The “character speed” is 23 Fransworth. The actual WPM is slower, like in all Morse teaching programs. It’s the popular Koch method used for teaching in the Armed Forces and Emergency Response Teams around the world.
@nendrarizkyan5 жыл бұрын
So hard😭😭😭
@luisantonioherrera17569 ай бұрын
Muy picadita la letra
@ВикторАрзютов-е1ъ6 жыл бұрын
TNX!!!!MNY TNX!!!!US4ET GL!73!!!!
@jean-bernardfrancois71356 жыл бұрын
_ _ . . _ _ 73 AR VA
@AE5X6 жыл бұрын
Yes, pointless. If we spelled out words correctly on CW, there might be some validity to this as a "practice method". Words like "and" "for" and "that" are rarely spelled out by competent CW ops. Practicing them in a way they are not used on the air is counter-productive.
@HamRadioQRP6 жыл бұрын
+AE5X Thank you for your comments So, I assume you feel the same about the daily ARRL on-air CW practice sessions because they don't use the slang and abbreviations used by "competent CW ops"? I am working on a video of the most common words in a QSO which will include abbreviations, Q-codes and equipment names. That may partly address some of your concerns. In general these videos are for folks such as myself who are still working toward becoming competent CW ops. As I learn more, I hope to create better training videos. Personally, practicing listening to the top 500 words has improved my ragchew skills, but I understand that what's useful to me will not be useful to all.
@warplanner32586 жыл бұрын
The same argument can be made for 5- or 6-letter groups of random Morse. There are many other venues where he can get the desired practice. Almost all CW practice packages offer QSO practice. Most also offer sending from user-supplied text files. Suggest that AE5X (or others so inclined) develop their own .txt files. Bottom line: ANY PRACTICE of Morse code is beneficial.
@TrystansWorkbench5 жыл бұрын
Pointless for AE5X, but useful for the rest of us. He's undoubtedly a great CW operator. For the rest of use, hearing and copying "and" "that" and "for" builds confidence in what we are hearing. It reinforces our learning as our brain recognises the words. It's a very good video.
@Capecodham6 жыл бұрын
Pointless
@HamRadioQRP6 жыл бұрын
I’d like to know why you think practice listening to common words is pointless. Also curious of your level of expertise. Are you new to learning the code? If not, how long ago did you learn to copy?
@keithrainbow5 жыл бұрын
I'll give you "dotty", but there is definitely a point to it! Being able to read code in your head is an awesome accomplishment! Rubber stamp QSO's composed entirely of cw abbreviations are just too boring! They're not "real" communication, just another type of stamp-collecting without the pretty pictures.