[4K] Marvel's Spider-Man: The Complete Digital Foundry Analysis!

[@shady8099]

thank god activision lost their license for this

[@NBE-02]

Shady if activision didn’t even get the license we wouldn’t even see amazing spidey games like spiderman 2 web of shadows ultimate Spider-Man man(2000) u should say thank goodness beenox don’t make spiderman games because they were the ones responsible for ruining the amazing Spider-Man games

[@lunaco3971]

Hassan Hussain he’s saying thank god they LOST their license for this so a better company could make the game since all these old ones are going downhill

[@heycastelo2759]

fam

[@warzIbanez]

@Don Sincero uh, I think this game is getting a bunch of DLC packs.

[@GrayFox370]

Doctor Octupus is the main villain. Aunt May dies in the end. Tombstone and Taskmaster are side villains. Silver sable is introduced but no boss battle with her. Bosses in order of story are Kingpin, Shocker, Mr. Negative, Electro + Vulture, Rhino + Scorpion, Mr Negative again, Doc Ock. Miles gets bitten towards the end of the game. Symbiotes are teased for the next game. Green Goblin is not in it but heavily mentioned. Peter does not die in this game. MJ and Miles are stealth mission characters.

[@PeaceLove69]

Can you guys imagine if Ea lost its star wars license? How many great Star Wars games we could get

[@mkultrasoldier]

Danny Foglesong we can only dream. If only we still had Pandemic.

[@LaloLanderos16]

Yeah, but if Sony or Microsoft got their hands on that IP that would suck. Not really, quality wise, but having it only on one system would blow.

[@PeaceLove69]

@@LaloLanderos16 ummm...Have you played Spiderman? Lol

[@Cabinny00]

That depends on whom Disney gave the rights to. I doubt they would never lock it to a console, it would have to be independent. Insomniac actually could be a good fit in this regard, they are excellent on all platforms. Not Activison, possibly ubi soft. Honestly the issue for star wars is that at this point in its life it is nothing more than a cash cow no matter the media.

[@pegasusdrive12]

The no of start wars games released would be decreased by their quality would improve vastly.

[@KBABZ]

One topic brought up is the scripted lighting setups similar to inFamous. Insomniac actually stated that the reason why they used this is for story purposes. If there's a dramatic scene, it's much easier to get the emotion in it if you as a developer know that it's either raining or at night. It's hard to do the death of Uncle Ben if it's a bright sunny day with saturated colours!

[@TheAustin007powers]

So overall no downgrade AND they pushed the Pro resolution even higher than before while maintaining good performance? Great work Insomniac 👌🔥

[@Mlordy]

Yeah I’m genuinely impressed. From native 1440p to dynamic 1944p.

[@Aesthetic626]

But what about the frame rate tho

[@Aesthetic626]

@@Mlordy still isn't native 4k even tho sony says Its 4k

[@ryanxgames5988]

@@Aesthetic626 no

[@Mlordy]

ItsCaskey 408 doesn’t matter because it’s so close to 4K & looks so good on a 4K TV.

[@wickedhero3764]

EA: “Single player game is Dead!” Insomniac: “Hold my web shooter”

[@ecognitio9605]

EA BAD!!! PRAISE GERALDO!!!

[@devilshooter126m8]

Santa Monica: Hold my Leviathan Axe CD Project Red: Hold my Inhaler Naughty dog: Hold my Bow and arrow Sucker Punch: Hold my Samurai Sword Nintendo: Hold my Master Sword/Hat

[@whiteknight5100]

I believe Super Mario Odyssey and Zelda Breath Of The Wild already proved that single player games are far from dead , not this 87 Metacritic movie, I mean, game.

[@myself2noone]

They. Did. Not. Say. That. They just said they don't sell as well as they did 10 years ago. But whatever EA gave a million dollars to charity and I still saw people complaining.

[@devilshooter126m8]

Movie, Really?? i thought that argument was dead a long time ago. I guess you cant yell downgrade anymore so you have to go back to the previous method of bashing. For no good reason may i add.

[@ScooseMcGoose]

How such a large, impressively detailed open world can be so seamless is mind blowing. I love this game!

[@admyr6642]

df just took a big dump on the folks screaming downgrade lol

[@dannonyogurt98]

Not really. It's still technically a downgrade to reflections even if it was a manpower issue and not system power. No denying the way they did it at e3 looked better.

[@SotNist]

dreamcastguy should do an apology video

[@aimannorzahariwod]

No denying the e3 thing, yet the game that's out for the general public is just as good if not BETTER according to this DF analysis? Like the Witcher 3, the final release was and IS still pretty as hell even with the entire e3 downgrade. PLUS, to refer to it as a DOWNGRADE is straight up slanderous attempt at a smear campaign. Why not just refer to it as REWORKED or something? I swear, there are so many cunts in the video game 'community' (if that's even applicable, considering how splintered and divisive that whole thing is)

[@Dangerous2099]

The graphics really look incredible in this game, high watermark for the generation thus far?

[@christianr.5868]

dannonyogurt98 downgrades are about technical aspects. Changes in art direction isn’t a downgrade. It just looks different

[@TheGamer2323]

Digital Foundry just made a Kofi diss track

[@moses_njoku]

TheGamer2323 I watched this written live on the live stream

[@JohnDoeHumdrum]

LOL. That's what you get for being part of the "Switch" Gang.

[@bigkeith3863]

TheGamer2323 why. Kofi said it in his impressions it looks different in some areas but improved from the trailers in others. There’s moments on this video when Spidey is on the wall that it looks down in quality. That compression is real

[@leoniciolopezgomez7731]

Kofis all sensitive now blocking anyone that hurts his feeling btw lmfao

[@matthewbeckrest3200]

LoL

[@wasapdoc]

My choice to go for a PS4 was correct.

[@raudnerstrife]

You could never go wrong when owning a PS4. Congrats!

[@Moriningland]

me too. I was going to get an xbox three years ago and the PS4 was thee choice all the way. So many amazing exclusives played since then

[@JFinns]

Yep got it for Bloodborne and it's been exclusive after exclusive since. Multiplatforms run awesome on PS4 too.

[@xninja83x67]

*My decision to for a ps4 was a good choice* I fixed your comment for you don't seem like a total idiot. And yes, I agree.

[@wasapdoc]

8un3zz Press and watch is every game.

[@BlackSteelKeyChain]

"The game has been upgraded" and suddenly dozens of annoying voices were instantly silenced. Thank you

[@moustiboy]

Hey u wanna watch the video, can you confirm that it doesn't spoil too much of the surprises or story in game :) ?

[@BlackSteelKeyChain]

@@moustiboy it doesn't

[@imcnblu]

*thousands of annoying voices. ;)

[@matthewvazquez4455]

There is a handful on here still trying.

[@agus.lorenzo]

silenced? WTF? ITS A CLEAR DOWNGRADE. It's amazing how dumb people are. This video just proved that the downgrade IS THERE AND THERES IS NOTHING YOU CAN SAY TO MAKE IT SEEM IT ISNT. Please. Shut the Fk up.

[@FesterThanLight]

This game is visually incredible, what a generation!

[@victorvieira7469]

Sony is consistently bringing little tears of joy to my eyes with every exclusive release. This is how game development should be handled. Hope Microsoft really steps their game up to this point after all the promises made during this year's E3.

[@meguminarchwizard2698]

Spider-Man joins the club of visually impressive PS4 titles. Hah.

[@XxPUN1SHERxX]

I’m actually blown away with how great games are looking now with the level of detail. I just sit on top of the buildings looking off in the distance at the water and city scape in awe. What an amazing job the team at insomniac have done

[@xXSilentAgent47Xx]

Spider-Man can swim!? 10/10!

[@ryangreen8239]

Well.....

[@princepeachfuzz]

The speed sucks for a human tank

[@metfan4l]

Hot damn, that water looks amazing!

[@GrayFox370]

Doctor Octupus is the main villain. Aunt May dies in the end. Tombstone and Taskmaster are side villains. Silver sable is introduced but no boss battle with her. Bosses in order of story are Kingpin, Shocker, Mr. Negative, Electro + Vulture, Rhino + Scorpion, Mr Negative again, Doc Ock. Miles gets bitten towards the end of the game. Symbiotes are teased for the next game. Green Goblin is not in it but heavily mentioned. Peter does not die in this game. MJ and Miles are stealth mission characters.

[@SpikeSpiegel96]

metfan4l even in resistance 2 with shitty graphics there was awesome water physics

[@lt-yx1hx]

@@GrayFox370 why do feel the need to just go in and spoil the entire game?

[@jamesnicholson5983]

SECURE THE ROOM I'll go out on a limb, and say it's beca........well, you can probably guess the the rest. I refuse to call him a twat on YT.

[@thesmartone1064]

@@GrayFox370 Nice, do you feel good now?

[@cfb1199]

Insomniac; Santa Monica Studios; Guerrilla and Naughty Dog. Make Superb Quality Games. Truly Master Pieces!!

[@marcoschneider4269]

You forgot Quantic Dream

[@filiplaskovski9993]

Don’t forget SuckerPunch 👊🏼

[@marcoschneider4269]

@@filiplaskovski9993 yes you right infamous second son was great and for me one of the best ps4 games so far!

[@Balkancuga]

Rockstar Games and Quantic Dream.

[@mikekaze7175]

Insomniac > all the other studios that you mentioned.

[@reaktorleak89]

Feels like Puddlegate is over. Great analysis! And my coworker and I spotted the new cloth material on Spidey as well; looks more realistic.

[@imdurc]

The sad thing is, It could've been easily avoided had James Stevenson talked about an art change to the suit as DF has now clearly shown (plastic vs cloth look). Instead their official twitter mentioned a puddle change! lol At this point, I'm starting to wonder if it was intentional, i.e. for extra publicity. EDIT: Forgot to mention, the 15:55 change was also something that DF highlights as having been changed.

[@guitarboy0211]

@@imdurc Weirdly, they went from cloth in 2016 to plastic in 2017 and then back to cloth.

[@Firefoxan]

While I didnt care the entire time about the the topic, I find it stupid people be arguing over a puddle to begin with

[@evrico7]

😂😂😂 Digital Foundry started this whole thing when they over analyzed The grass in GTA. Now they’re damage controlling the puddles. Media bias strikes again.

[@MrGamemaker8]

IT'S JUST THE PUDDLES AND NOT THE LIGHTING OR REFLECTIONS GUYS

[@SadalDay]

John as always is very thorough and very articulate

[@supremesoulX]

Damn Digital Foundry put these people who claimed downgrades to shame

[@VRazorGaming]

you do know that CS Dota and lol aren't the only games on the PC right? and a 1050 basically beats a ps4 pro on raw power, developers on console focus on optimization rather than blindly adding graphics to the game which is why the demo can look different from the final game.

[@Dorraj]

No one was claiming downgrades, people were simply pointing out and discussing a difference. This got blown the fuck up for no reason. A bunch of people complained about this magical invisible party that never complained in the first place.

[@supremesoulX]

@@Dorraj Don't know where you been ton of people were claiming downgrades before release

[@Dorraj]

+Supremesoul and where would that be? Other than people obviously meming, who the hell was actually saying it was downgraded? It was completely sensationalized.

[@supremesoulX]

@@Dorraj Pretty much any video before the game was released some were memes most were serious.

[@leonthesleepy]

18:01 " Thats my theory and i believe it holds some *WATER* " kekeke i see what you did there

[@RedStickInc]

water = puddle

[@Gman-ex5dg]

He basically played politics with the puddlgate. He covered his ass. He clearly says things done are 'Less effective", "less specific", "replaced with GENERIC one" which are not compliments. That scene isn't as good as it was, visually. That's all I ever commented on because I don't have the game but I can see the difference in the two shots. I never made a statement on Spiderman the game.

[@Limtorak]

Well, final game looks better than E3 capture. That's actually very cool to see

[@mikelowreyyy]

Actually it's funny cause some days ago some people were claiming about a supposed downgrade lol

[@gettinmoney216185]

Limtorak video came out 26 min ago , your comment 22 min ago . You didnt even watch the vid lmao

[@raidmarker2571]

Limtorak DF confirms the downgrade and you delusional fanboys still deny it. I love it. Y'all are awesome corporate slaves!

[@dannyruiz3820]

@@raidmarker2571 ..EXACTLY 😂😂😂

[@raidmarker2571]

Danny Ruiz It's honestly hilarious, how can these people seriously be this delusional? I'll never understand.

[@SWIFTzTrigger]

Wow, DF knows how to make you really appreciate the incredible work of the whole development team. Insane! Also how much did Sony spend to get this level of detail from Insomniac? must have been literally trucks full of money. wow.

[@worawatsr9803]

SWIFTzTrigger 230 million dollars to be exact.

[@ajdaniel8128]

So its an Upgrade instead of a Downgrade

[@sebastian6121]

nop, there was a downgrade in post processing, e3 version had better SSR

[@voodoo9077]

It drops down to 900p

[@raidmarker2571]

Aj Daniel No it's a downgrade

[@dannyruiz3820]

Yup more upgrade ,,DF just shut these idiots up once and for all 😂

[@Mlordy]

Voodoo that’s the base PS4. PS4 Pro rarely drops down below 1440p & when it does, it’s around 1300p.

[@GrimRubbish]

Spiderman, Spiderman, does whatever a spider can Spins a web any size, catches thieves just like flies Look out, here comes the Spiderman!

[@Dr_Fastt]

I literally sang it just like the lady from Sam raimi's spider-man movie!

[@gettinmoney216185]

Grim Rubbish Collector you didnt even watch the video before commenting

[@METALSLUG69]

As usual Digital Foundry have done a awesome job of detailing the game thank you👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@megatronl9922]

Lol

[@Dangerous2099]

Is he strong, listen bud- he's got radioactive blood Can he swing from a thread? Take a look overhead Hey there! There goes the Spider-Man

[@TheAmazingLucas]

So we're not going to mention the floating cop heads at 8:34? K

[@LarryBonson]

You really are everywhere lol

[@iempire100]

"paided" Cool word. Yeah, Digital Foundry got paided by MS when they praised the X console, Forza 7, Red Dead Redemption on the X, and Nintendo paided Digital Foundry when they praised Mario and Zelda too. Digital Foundry got paided for every analysis they've ever done, right????? These aren't reviews that they do. They make critical analysis of games, consoles, and PC components.

[@heretotroll.9703]

Mate stop not picking and enjoy the game. They also have a bug patch coming as you are aware and name one open world where there isnt bugs. You seem annoyed they didnt give you a review copy.

[@beasto3041]

The Amazing Lucas you’re so salty you didn’t get a review copy, I love your animation Analysis but you really gotta stop pointing out every little problem you can possibly find

[@RokushoTheRavager]

Here’s a better question: Do we need to? Honestly how many players are even going to notice that?

[@rishabhpushkar2312]

Digital Foundry Is Better And More Hardworking Than IGN.A Channel Truly Dedicated To Gaming.😊

[@peenywallie]

allahu ackbar!!

[@xavierrobertson8730]

@@peenywallie wtf lmao

[@RaulMathown]

@@peenywallie what?

[@johnjay6370]

These guys are not only gamers but engineers and programmers. That is why they do so well...keep it up guys...

[@binxmaster]

They're IGNorants.

[@Hiroth86]

I like the final game suit more, the vibrant colours look better.

[@mauryj.3415]

More realistic cloth texture....I hated the shiny leather plastic look on the E3 demo....spiderman suits were never made out of leather they were always made from cloth, I like this change it makes the suit more on par and more accurately displays the real spiderman from the comic books.

[@SlyBeast]

Agreed. Spidey's suit really needs to pop. It's iconic.

[@moonknightish]

I disagree, the colour gradient in the demo looked more natural and easy on the eye.

[@vandammage1747]

The suit is not more vibrant, it's the whole game that's more saturated than the demo which had a more realistic look. Personally I liked the glossy suit better it had a satin look(not plastic lol) and the reflections really brings out the details in the model especially while moving. Both look great though.

[@MarceloTezza]

People are hipnotized by the DF final word, it looks much worse in the final, and less realistic too.

[@ofensatul]

this game surpassed eveN GOW in terms of quality and gameplay . anyone not playing this is missing on the best game of the year !

[@Bloodhurl67]

I wouldn't necessarily say Quality but I'd say gameplay goes to Gow.

[@Mega0003000]

*The game got upgraded instead of downgraded LMFAO*

[@amakeleven]

I wouldnt say an upgrade... More like it got some more polish. 8:34 shows an obvious flaw that they couldn't get rid of entirely, slow loading of objects. Which just to the right of the screen you see two officers heads floating.

[@ghjhty7]

@@amakeleven "More polish" so.... Upgraded.

[@OniiChan6161]

@@ghjhty7 where i come from, yes it's called an upgrade.

[@kouriichi]

No, shut up! There are a few less puddles, and everything stopped looking like waxed plastic dipped in a clear coat for that extra shine. Completely ignore that the changes are so subtle its impossible to notice unless you stop, zoom in, and stare at it from half a dozen different angles for an extended period of time. In fact, ignore that they spent all that extra time on making the game generally more vibrant, and probably smoother to play due to the extra budget they didnt spend making dozens and dozens of new cube maps that most people will literally never notice. So just shut up, and ACCEPT ITS A DOWNGRADE BECAUSE THATS WHAT IM SAYING IT IS, DESPITE THE FACT I PROBABLY HAVENT EVEN SEEN THE DIFFERENCES MYSELF, JUST LOW QUALITY COMPRESSED IMAGE COMPARISONS.

[@SageOfReality]

kouriichi Dude, calm down....there just graphics lmao grow up.

[@xxnike0629xx]

Glad to see this game is so good. Spider-Man definitely got the game it needed. Maybe now Insomniac will be do more super hero games? Speaking of which what happened to the Resistance series remaster collection? Wasn’t it supposed to come to PS4? 🤔

[@mandorinnegan8130]

xxnike629xx i really hope the y develop Iron Man’s game, we never see something like

[@fartsniffer2722]

I remember telling people about your videos and how you know your stuff and having replies like "pfft what do digital foundry know, they only have 150k subs" now everyone listens to you and I'm glad because I've been with you for years and you're the best graphical analysis channel on KZbin.

[@KajahaX]

Phenomenal review! Couldn't smash the like button hard enough!

[@AbhinavRaman21]

How do you guys not have 10 million subs already !

[@thealpha6848]

Your Name Looks funny

[@SaintInTheEyesOfSinn]

Because doing complex and in depth analysis of the inner workings of game software while extremely cool doesn't exactly have huge mainstream appeal does it? It's a bit of a niche..😂

[@farmsalot1233]

Fanboys have a hard time getting in arguments when presented with a analysis like this. So the head over to other channels to argue.

[@kas2k4]

Adore Healer you're a tool

[@Nickthegamingnerd]

@@farmsalot1233 fanboys have a hard time arguing on this channel? Have you not been here for long lol.... Digital foundry has one of the most cancerous comments sections ive ever seen

[@Bwakcmo69]

PlayStation has been killing it lately with god of war now this.

[@kevinragsdale6256]

Both are poop games

[@stephensearles673]

@@kevinragsdale6256 yeah course they are, that's why God of war won goty, grow up you pathetic xbox fanboy

[@alphaomega887654321]

@@stephensearles673 his name is kevin... dont reply

[@stephensearles673]

@@johnwest6977 strange that coz it was good enough to win goty and millions of people have played through it countless times coz it's that good, you sound like you've not even played it and are either a PC or xbox fanboy who is slightly salty

[@stephensearles673]

@@johnwest6977 to me it's a masterpiece hence the 10 out of 10 it got across the board I don't like multiplayer games I'm more into single player story driven games, but to each there own

[@kyles6977]

Great to see Digitalfoundry squash this silly idea of a downgrade once and for all. For all you wanting your puddles though, various gameplay videos are showing that there are areas that have even more than puddles during certain weather than what was shown at E3.

[@isturbo1984]

they actually confirmed the downgrade. did you watch the same video?? the denial with you fanboys is so strong, even after DF confirms it, you still pretend it doesnt exist. there is absolutely no debating with you people. insanity.

[@V7RV7R]

isturbo1984 You’re literally lying.

[@starshape6650]

@@isturbo1984 Didn't DF say it was more of a artistic change rather than a dowmgrade?

[@GoodStoryGames]

Changes were made but it wasn't downgrade because downgrade would equal performance reason. Now weather you liked the changes is your opinion.

[@raidmarker2571]

isturbo1984 There's no arguing with them. They are certifiably insane. No amount of proof is enough for them, let them live their delusions.

[@dragexhighwind3929]

Shut the haters down DF.. They’re just butthurt they don’t own a PS4

[@DuckAlertBeats]

Could probably buy one though, like anyone else though right? Doesn't exactly take skill or wits

[@robertsheinberg5052]

I own a PS4 still think it's a POS and Spiderman has never interested me he is boring

[@dragexhighwind3929]

Robert Sheinberg yeah sure you do.. And I bet your PSN ID is “SaltyXbot”

[@dragexhighwind3929]

Mizaris there’s a difference between opinions and fact...

[@nereyda41081]

Exus ????

[@SpontaneousWeasel]

Playing this now ... it is simply a must have for ps4 owners! Hdr works great as well.

[@hetzerlee1019]

@WhoDarestheMAN gamer I don't know if you watched this video, Insomniac did not use checkerboard rendering for their game. And what's your beef with Sony exclusives? If Microsoft want to compete with Sony in the console space, they need exclusives to give people reason to invest money into their console. Being the most powerful console in the market doesn't mean anything without great titles. If power means everything, Nintendo would have folded their console game business long ago because they are not known for power but rather for games.

[@monke7401]

Hetzer Lee well said. Fanboys acting up trying to shit on our fun to make themselves feel better 🤣. They’re really missing out but fuck them their loss 🤷

[@pswiisixtee]

TLDR No downgrades, only upgrades and artistic changes. Concern trollers crying downgrade can quietly eat crow now.

[@vicsha4]

Minor spoiler warning at 3:20! Minor you say??? :/ Put that text in the video not description :(

[@MM-zw8sm]

This channel is 100x better than that fake Cleanprince gaming and Downward thrust. 👍

[@hatti...]

Word.

[@velezf216o]

Cleanprince doesn’t play video games

[@ludwig2952]

Cleanprince is the biggest fraud on KZbin

[@fergas0081]

@@ludwig2952 why tho?

[@djhero0071]

I don't know if anyone at digital foundry will read this but my mind was blown. I'm definitely impressed. As someone that doesn't pay much attention to the minute graphical details and is mostly content so long as the gameplay is good and the game looks how it should, I gotta give props to you guys for going the extra mile and noticing so many things I'd probably overlook. So tl;dr, you guys are fucking dope and earned a like from me!

[@blulu8620]

and to think this is on almost 8 year old hardware. insomniac is fucking amazing

[@Beyondfreshken]

Puddlegate transforms into upgradegate

[@momenelorbany]

I like your bobs playlist

[@Dorraj]

Puddlegate was never a thing. Stop trying to make it a thing.

[@Beyondfreshken]

@@Dorraj 174 people say otherwise. Look it up trolls were crying over a puddle.

[@Dorraj]

174 people believe the same stupid bs that you do lol. Look it up, it was completely sensationalized.

[@Beyondfreshken]

Moving goal post because you don't want sound silly. The game looks amazing by the way.

[@CaptainDesperados]

What an amazing analysis, it is the most detailed and professional I've seen so far. Thank you Digital Foundry !

[@EDIZ]

Haha look at 8:38 :D Heads flying around on the rigth side. :D

[@markwheeler4245]

EDIZ eagle eye i never saw it till I looked.

[@noticemeonii-chan5347]

The funny thing is I don't even think digital Foundry noticed

[@DravicPL]

Mr Meeseeks That's kinda what happens when someone pays you to promote your game XD

[@mauryj.3415]

Its right after a camera cut as noted by DF, police models don't cut to the next scene right away.... most likely a bug that will get fix with a day one patch.

[@PalmDesertRock]

+Klumsy Kameleon +Ali Baba Gotta love the logic of haters like you. If a game is bad it's "LoL @ hardware XY", and if a game is the real deal and actually great, the reviewer must've been paid. Get a life, nerds.

[@randybradley4151]

The suit looks far better in the final version because you can see the web/mesh patterns on the suit, the eyes look far superior from the E3 Demo and the overall suit looks sharper.

[@AdiiS]

LMAO no, the E3 had much better suit, which the REMASTERED version proved, they went back to the original design, with the fabric casting realistic reflections and not that stinky plastic PS4 retail version.

[@loading...4091]

@@AdiiS The E3 presentation was the one with the "stinky plastic" suit lol. And although the Remastered version's suit is a bit more reflective, it's still relatively diffuse whereas the E3 suit had specular detail along every single edge which makes it look more like 3D-printed plastic than a fabric mask. Also, why are you replying to a 5-year old comment?

[@MrEleeo]

I subscribed after watching this. Very thorough and clear. This is quality. Thank you @DigitalFoundry for doing the community an honest solid review.

[@bingobongo1615]

El's House they are skipping on pop-ups and npc quality though... doesnt hurt the game the least I think but for a tech analysis it’s disappointing

[@th33b33]

I bought a PS4PRO GOW EDITION and haven't touched my Xbox since. I literally bought it for this game, GOW, Detroit Become Human. I also acquired a PSVR along the way😉

[@dickyboy2315]

Psvr is mind blowing

[@devilcorpsdoc]

so you spend all your time beating the same games over and over again? This is a few days worth of content... makes no sense.

[@mechragone]

You may want to check out Uncharted and Horizon Zero Dawn while you're at it :)

[@66LI99]

Buy : Uncharted collection , uncharted 4 , the last of us remastered , ratchet and clank , until dawn (if you like horror spooky games with great gfx) , horizon zero dawn, infamous second son ....

[@Kujo96]

barry morgan lol you sound like a typical Xbox fan girl

[@ryanross4594]

But But.. Muhh Puddles......

[@mcruzvascao]

This was just a work of art from insomniac!! Really really impressive work!! Specially animations and fluid gameplay!! Amazing job!!! Hope that we don't need to wait more than 3 years for a sequel!!

[@FebreGundam]

ONLY ON PLAYSTATION

[@зверь-д9д]

Yeah.. that sucks :/

[@christianr.5868]

зверь hey dude, exclusives are what gives consoles value. And it is their ip

[@shuntarofurukawa5577]

@@christianr.5868 thus the xbox is falling down

[@shuntarofurukawa5577]

@@christianr.5868 Though I do generally prefer nintnedo exclusives. But I bet ill get atacked for this comment.

[@christianr.5868]

Bo Bo hey, I love me some Smash and Pokémon. Not so much let’s go, but I’m reserving hope for next year

[@193sora193]

i see more of an uprade than a dowgrade LOL

[@AdiiS]

look at the suit it looks flat and in the e3 it looks more like the CGI render of the suit. big DOWNGRADE right there!

[@GrainMuncher]

Adii S ok but no one cares, the game still looks amazing

[@TruTrae]

Adii S no did you not watch the video

[@c1b-7-manithreddy22]

@@AdiiS awww poor xbot gonna cry

[@ThDragoomba]

@@AdiiS I'm gonna put some dirt in ur eye

[@eysan90]

The amount of detail and focus on the little things just makes me amazed by how much work this must have taken

[@darthnazgul]

Always count on Digital Foundry for doing it right.

[@deepblue8143]

Yes, thank you so much Digital Foundry for the spoilers in the video! Good job

[@mushudamaschin2608]

21:22 (on the left) good to know the driving is realistic!

[@Indentish]

Mushu Damaschin IM DEAD!!!!! 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣

[@karakenakweks3857]

This game was the sole reason i upgraded to a PS4 Pro and got a 4K HDR TV and HOKY SHIT! this game from a visual standpoint is the best i have ever seen. There is so much detail in everything and the game is so colourful and vibrant. Its just so beautiful.

[@karakenakweks3857]

@jvalex18 Read the comment, i said it was the best game visually "I" have seen not that it was the best overall.

[@jester0075]

so spiderman actually looks better than e3, i told you, insomniac games knows how to make games.

[@proroguebr1385]

No , it clearly doesn't. If u look at details and everything else , you'll definitely see how bad the real version is compared to e3 trailer.

[@jester0075]

boiiii

[@jester0075]

cube maps? is that what your on about?

[@proroguebr1385]

@@jester0075 No , look at shadow difference and renderizing quality from both then u'll see what I'm talking about . Don't forget the ambient occlusion tho !

[@jester0075]

combat looks slightly different but the game LOOKS visually the same or better.

[@TheAnvilMan]

Great detailed analysis! Well done.

[@jamesoloughlin]

Wow, just discovered this analysis and by extension the channel. Hope the rest are as excellent and as in-depth as this.

[@pegasusdrive12]

Please do a DF retro for all Spider-Man games.

[@SlyBeast]

Best idea I've heard recently.

[@Poever]

SlyBeast you mean including the Atari 2600 one?

[@pegasusdrive12]

@@Poever yup. All 35 or so of them.

[@SlyBeast]

Not sure how much there would be to analyze with that one! I actually liked that game when I was a kid.

[@resonator7728]

The game for the Sega CD was pretty good. So was the Arcade version.

[@curlyhairedgamer]

NO downgrade just artistic choices

[@alonofisrael4802]

bullcrap but the still looks amazing

[@dangerouslydubiousdoubleda9821]

Derrick Small no it was artistic again major improvement for lighting and for the PS4 pro there was a resolution boost sure the cube mapping was lowered but if u consider every factor there was a upgrade compared to E3 cube mapping is not everything lol

[@mkeonine]

Wow. Awesome analysis. Makes me want to get a PS4 just for this game!

[@randybradley4151]

Well they do have a limited edition Spider-man PS4 PRO and it comes with the game for free. It is also offered with the PS4 Slim but it's going to look and play better on the PS4 PRO and besides the hard drive is twice as big as the slim.

[@mkeonine]

@@randybradley4151 Thanks mate. I'll prob get the Pro. Will have to check out how the Spider-man version looks like. I don't want my electronics to stand out too much. Lol.

[@spidersilva147]

Lol Insomniac and Sony just owned all of the haters/doubters/naysayers 😆

[@thomasjefferson2813]

spidersilva147 the game was obviously downgraded. Dont act like it wasn't

[@spidersilva147]

Dennis The hero 😂 Did you watch the video? It's one of the best looking games, possibly the best looking game this year

[@thelarry383]

Dennis The hero need a tissue?

[@jonshukulli6944]

hero keep living in ignorance bud, we'll be enjoying this great game while u do so

[@Fendera1]

Very good work John 👍🏻

[@Sazime]

"Puddles and enemies fill the screen," might be my favorite thing to hear someone ever point out.

[@martinvr12]

We will have Spider-man this month, then next month we will have RDR 2, holy cow! I guess the greatness awaits, except for our wallets xD

[@Schlock3000]

And Tomb Raider.

[@samclough5686]

Didnt rdr2 get delayed to november?

[@markwheeler4245]

Martin VR I'm behind I still haven't got God of War yet!... I'll get that first as it should be cheaper than Spidey now and I'll get Spidey later

[@martinvr12]

Sam Clough Um nope, is set for release on october 26.

[@martinvr12]

Mark Wheeler Alright that's good, god of war is a pretty good game.

[@BarcodeGamez]

The Ambient Occlusion looks very good. It’s one of the things I really love about Ratchet and Clank. Im glad they did good with input latency also. Another thing Ratchet and Clank nailed considering 30 FPS. Good job Insomniac, it’s a good entry. Now please show us how innovative you are and take the story and gameplay to the next level for a sequel or prequel.

[@campos3452]

That water is the best water I’ve ever seen in a video game.

[@nicholasmartins4316]

Rdr 2, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, Uncharted 4, Batman Arkham Night, Watch Dogs?

[@gamebond6248]

@@nicholasmartins4316 no.

[@mykleclark818]

Very detailed analysis. Thank you.

[@RossageRoll]

Oh no SOME puddles are gone!! That's all I want to do when I play a Spider-man game is to just run around in a puddle in circles, my immersion is ruined!!

[@Princess_of_hell_1947]

People love to whine nowadays. Cry me a river.

[@MrMovielover17]

cyberpunk 2099 u mean cry me a puddle. Lol

[@halfling_barista]

Excellent production values on this video and really insightful regarding the reflection and LOD techniques. Nice work.

[@gameromally4266]

Dealer Gaming and Colt Eastwood crying right now!

[@Chronocrits]

Gamer M Both have PS4s. Try again.

[@FrostEclipse21]

@@Chronocrits They're still fanboys. Anyone can claim to own X item only to contradict themselves over and over again (talking about Colt and his so called PC)

[@Chronocrits]

Frost Eclipse That works both ways. Anyone can accuse anyone else of lying about owning the other platforms. It doesn’t necessarily mean they don’t. Sure, they may be biased towards one platform, but isn’t everyone? Most people have a system that gets the majority of their time.

[@sakuragi1062]

Fatalshock v7 Are you seriously wasting your time defending xbox fanboys like dealer and colt??lLol

[@Chronocrits]

Christoper Bacani If I were, it would be no different to Sony fanboys defending RobinGaming or MorganaDays. But no, I’m simply trying to take an unbiased view on things.

[@gameguy301]

funny thing is that the resolution to this puddlegate controversy is precisely why ray-tracing is important. its not just that raytracing looks better, its that artists don't have to rip their hair out cooking up convincing and up to date cube maps and tweaking scenes to best hide the issues of screen space solutions. same thing with lighting, an ignored part of puddlegate is that the shadows of things like pipes are also radically different, this is once again a difference that is artist driven rather than technology driven, under a raytracing model the lighting would just look natural without need for fiddling on a scene by scene basis. The cost of raytracing is of course performance, thankfully faster and faster hardware comes out every year. and that for the most part raytracing can run in parallel with both compute and shading and can act as a drop in replacement for rasterized solutions that have become highly sophisticated and taxing in their own right, leveraged properly raytracing can actually take pressure off of the shading and compute pipeline giving developers more freed up muscle to flex on other tasks. so once RT performance ramps up within the next few generations it should not represent a massive performance hit like it does currently. raytracing will continue to be experimented with in the PC space until I think coming to the masses with the PS6 / xbox5 era, in the interim (the ps5 and xbo4 era) we will see much more heavy use of voxel cone tracing and other similar techniques. even then raytracing tech will still be helping developers actually preview the tweaks they make in-game / in-engine between baking shadow maps and other time consuming calculations.

[@VariantAEC]

I definitely think some implementations of real time raytracing will be available in next gen games... Actually in a former DF video about SoTTR they talked about stochastic SSR on XOX for things like water reflections... Which relies on raytracing! So we're probably going to see real time raytracing on PS5, The Next Xbox and Nintendo TV Switch 2 Super Wii Pro or whatever they call their next home console hardware if it winds up being one that sits under the TV at all... Real time raytracing is already technically feasible on mobile hardware PS Vita was already using simple low resolution raycasting for SSR in _Killzone: Mercenary_ a mostly overlooked technical masterclass (yes, I know DF looked into the game). Anyway next gen real time raytracing at least one game... Count on it.

[@mike3894]

Nice to see a game come out that doesn't feel like I need to wait for a performance patch. They went old school with the development and actually finished the game before releasing it. What a concept!

[@playstationbdsalasqamosque5860]

upgraded confirmed again. kratos, Detroit etc. final product rules.

[@beasthunt]

Pre-ordered. Digital Foundry is dangerous.

[@psndude101]

Ha haa pre-order fool, thats why they downgrade these games, they show a game looking all shiny and fools slap their money down thinking thats what they are getting and when they get it home its not quite as nice. But then you get people trying to rationalise and make excuses for their own dumb choices

[@FPSLounge_]

@@psndude101 I and others don't care whether the game is downgraded or upgraded visually, we really only care about gameplay. Plus, the graphics still look great for a Spider-Man game. But I'm sick of game developers focusing on graphics over gameplay, so I'm glad Insomniac has their priorities straight

[@psndude101]

"But I'm sick of game developers focusing on graphics over gameplay, so I'm glad Insomniac has their priorities straight" 30fps

[@psndude101]

Dude complained over devs concentrating on graphics over other things, they do, id rather have 1080p and 60fps than fake 4k and 30fps any day, at the comments section reflect this point of view. " >claiming the Pro could handle this game at 1500p and 60fps." Sony pretty much led people to believe that Spiderman was running at 4k. Check the PS4 Pro reveal where they showed Spiderman, before showing the clips and other games he said 4k 3 times. 3 fucking times. Mark Cerny said this game will fully take advantage of your 4k TVs, 4k footage of this game will be released after the show and it was captured in 4k running on a PS4 Pro. Wordplay all the way, but if you werent listening fully and trying to break down what he said on every word the regular guy may think "ooh PS4 Pro runs these games in 4k, so i can take advantage of the 4k TV i have just bought" If its not 4k its not fully taking advantage of a 4k TV at all, its falling short of that boast, also 30fps is half the refresh rate so on that front its only taking advantage of HALF your 4k TV at best. All lies, wordplay, bait and switches. As long as they get those pre-orders in they dont give a fuck.

[@parasrox21]

This is the first graphics comparison video that I've ever seen, and man did I feel smart after it ended. The number of aspects at play here simply blow my mind. Hats off to the developers, and props to the creators of this video as well!

[@Mlordy]

up to 1944p.. wow! I’m genuinely impressed.

[@AdamWilliam329]

Still not 4K lol

[@merlin7800]

@@AdamWilliam329 Better than 1080p for sure !

[@AdamWilliam329]

@@merlin7800 it is lol but Im playing it in 1080p

[@DoomSlayer-87]

Didn't he say the average was in the 1600p range ? , 1944 up the highest possible Either way it will look incredible on my samsung Q9fn 😁

[@AdamWilliam329]

@@DoomSlayer-87 I guess lol. I'm joking Insomniac did a great job

[@GoldNSilverLuigi]

Downgrade according to people: Shiny good, not shiny bad.

[@b0tster]

No 60 fps or unlocked mode? I don't have a 4K tv so playing on my pro has no notable difference from base :/

[@fredebobs6782]

8:34 look at the floating copheads on the right😂.

[@ceulinberg]

Every time he said "puddle" I giggled .

[@N8KNY]

Excellent balance was kept in the video. Incredible journalism, Digital Foundry!

[@DNFHistory]

Hilarious that John messed up and leaked Ock. It has since been blurred out from when they originally uploaded this video.

[@sublimek]

I guess Xbox fanboys are now gonna say DF isn't credible again. Until the narrative benefits them.

[@Mr.ThomasP]

Doctor Octupus is the main villain. Aunt May dies in the end. Tombstone and Taskmaster are side villains. Silver sable is introduced but no boss battle with her. Bosses in order of story are Kingpin, Shocker, Mr. Negative, Electro + Vulture, Rhino + Scorpion, Mr Negative again, Doc Ock. Miles gets bitten towards the end of the game. Symbiotes are teased for the next game. Green Goblin is not in it but heavily mentioned. Peter does not die in this game. MJ and Miles are stealth mission characters.

[@MG_Spy]

@@Mr.ThomasP I've already finished the game but holy crap you're a douchewagon.

[@machmach5006]

DF once again proving they're the most trusted source for video-game technical insight. Thanks for this video, always a pleasure watching.

[@honkingclown]

Xbox fanboys extra salty this week.

[@shuntarofurukawa5577]

Shame they've been hiding away all this generation. I love watching people get salty

[@RampantLeaf]

Anyone without a PS4 is salty this week, and for good reason.

[@mattrich1986]

It’s still not native 4k, none of PlayStation exclusives do 4k or better textures. Name one game that look better than gears 4 running at 4k and high graphic settings, I’ll wait........

[@danielpindell1267]

@@mattrich1986 Detroit Become Human, God of War, Horizon all look better then anything on Xbox One. Just deal with it and stop being salty.

[@atgwiuz]

@@mattrich1986 god of war looks 10 times better than anything on the Xbox one x

[@rawtooth4704]

PlayStation is King of Consoles.

[@Mr.ThomasP]

Doctor Octupus is the main villain. Aunt May dies in the end. Tombstone and Taskmaster are side villains. Silver sable is introduced but no boss battle with her. Bosses in order of story are Kingpin, Shocker, Mr. Negative, Electro + Vulture, Rhino + Scorpion, Mr Negative again, Doc Ock. Miles gets bitten towards the end of the game. Symbiotes are teased for the next game. Green Goblin is not in it but heavily mentioned. Peter does not die in this game. MJ and Miles are stealth mission characters.

[@Avratin]

@@Mr.ThomasP Clearly you're salty about the xbox lacking this game judging by your choice of comment to reply to. It's a spiderman game, we already knew who the villains were even from the trailers.. Your spoilers are weak

[@joaquinfernandez1752]

@@Mr.ThomasP go play mw3 Oh wait its on the ps3 lmao

[@asianhavoc1872]

@@Mr.ThomasP 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@erionmema1]

I love how in detail you guys go with these videos. being a game artist myself, I appreciate everyone of your comments on any technology and game! thanks a lot

[@vivekantoni2134]

I am interested about the work you people do :)

[@ARCTECHGAMER]

Ha I knew all downgrade talk was nonsense.

[@soulnystasego792]

12:50 John needs a glass of water... or a puddle. Nice review, man. Thanks.

[@cameronjones4331]

We just gonna ignore the fact that at 3:25 doc oc is just thrown in there like it's no spoiler at all... Good job dropping the ball digital foundry

[@BDreGaming]

I love the brighter more colorful cloth materials.

[@528hrtz]

I CANT STRESS HOW AMAZING THIS GAME LOOKS WHEN YOU SWITCH ON “true motion” ON A OLED TV IT FEELS AND LOOKS LIKE 60fps.. YOU CANT GO BACK TO PLAYING THE GAME WITH IT OFF..

[@Bwansson]

It looks nice, but the input lag is insane.

[@528hrtz]

Bwansson almost zero lag on LG B7

[@IvanaGiznya]

LOL I have a b7aoled as well. Trumotion is not for gaming and introduces a lot of picture artifacts

[@TreyIM22]

Had to revisit this vid now that I have the remaster and Miles on PS5. I can't appreciate enough Insomniac's level of talent.

[@busywl69]

a few of the xbox channels I check out were really rough on this game for the 'downgrades'. just goes to show you how online 'journalism' works lol. this game looks amazing.

[@markuscraig7945]

That's a lie most said they didn't care or it didn't matter cause it was still a good game

[@Zeegoku1007]

Summary : Final build is overall an 'UPGRADE' !

[@HoseDoctor69]

Fantastic video, thanks DF!! Only thing that I could see wrong was at 20:00, no shadows cast by the car's headlamps when Spidey walks in front of them!

[@arshenio45]

8:34 anyone notice the black cop heads on the right side?

[@shehzaanaabdulla3047]

Guessing they are visual information carried over from the previous frame before the scene cut? I'd imagine in motion, however, it's not something you'd perceive.

[@heretotroll.9703]

Anyone notice you trolling

[@arshenio45]

@@heretotroll.9703 anyone notice you trolling or being blind enough to not see the heads?

[@xyzYAZEEDxyz]

So it's actually an upgrade huh? Sony make. Believe

[@jet100a]

xyzYAZEEDxyz ? Are you saying make believe or literally make. Believe

[@Dubaikiwi]

The main thing I am noticing is the colour, specifically in the sky and city, of the E3 version seem more vibrant whereas Release looks more yellow. Also, there is more blur in the E3 one which gives an impression of higher quality textures. You can see this playing from 3:43 at slow speed.

[@corexreplay]

4:17 nah... I would say polyester vs. silk..