One of the most HYPED QB Classes ever... 10 years later

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KTO

KTO

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@GreenBayPayton
@GreenBayPayton 2 жыл бұрын
You completely missed the part about Ryan Grigson and the Colts management failing to get him a decent offensive line and barely helping him during his surgery and rehab. That wasn’t a result of a reckless play style, the franchise let him down.
@JM-md4ri
@JM-md4ri 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. He was getting hit left and right never had a good line, never had a good rb, defense was okay at BEST. He was forced to play hero ball damn near every week. Grigson was terrible
@GrantH
@GrantH 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, the Colts destroyed his potential. It’s sad because he pretty much single-handedly revived that team after Peyton left.
@rayandfrances
@rayandfrances 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Not Luck's fault. If he had a competent O-line, he might still be playing today.
@burgermane1364
@burgermane1364 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll forever hate Ryan Grigson
@silverspadelord
@silverspadelord 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine him playing today with the current colts team now..
@codywalden7105
@codywalden7105 2 жыл бұрын
I remember reading a draft report on Andrew Luck prior to being drafted which detailed his strengths and weaknesses. It literally said in his weakness section that he has no weaknesses. That's how big of a prospect he was at the time.
@robdavis4951
@robdavis4951 2 жыл бұрын
That shit is crazy. Weaknesses: None
@stephonwilliams5232
@stephonwilliams5232 2 жыл бұрын
As a draft fans people were all a board the luck train. Members of the media would be seen already giving luck his spot in Ohio before he even took a snap in the nfl 😂 😂
@moomooinc5798
@moomooinc5798 2 жыл бұрын
I think they were right too he was a really good Qb, but playing behind that bad of a line gets to you
@BrianWilliams-op6lv
@BrianWilliams-op6lv 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately injuries turned a guy who single handedly held up a colts team into a “what if” story. Dude could probably be one of the greatest qb coaches ever if he wanted to get into that though
@fuktrumpanzeeskum
@fuktrumpanzeeskum 2 жыл бұрын
@@BrianWilliams-op6lv it takes more than just being good at playing a position to be a good coach. It takes a certain type of person to teach others.
@zachjo1457
@zachjo1457 2 жыл бұрын
Ryan Grigson killed Luck’s career arc, Colts were gifted the perfect Manning successor and squandered him so badly
@perfectcell5111
@perfectcell5111 2 жыл бұрын
wouldve been the greatest hand off than farve too rodgers
@aesir1ases64
@aesir1ases64 2 жыл бұрын
the perfect manning successor was manning himself, the colts deserved what they got after shoving peyton to the back door while he still had 3 prime years ahead of him
@AB-ou5qc
@AB-ou5qc 2 жыл бұрын
@@aesir1ases64 we couldn’t give Peyton what Denver did. We needed to rebuild, and doubt we could have given him the opportunity Denver gave him.
@djLagwayEnjoyer
@djLagwayEnjoyer Жыл бұрын
@@aesir1ases64the colts sucked outside of Manning. Also manning was old and very injury prone coming off major neck surgery. We saw what the colts O-line did to a young and strong luck. That colts team would have gotten Manning actually killed or paralyzed
@603xxg
@603xxg 2 жыл бұрын
The top two QBs in this class will forever be one of the biggest “what if” stories in sports. Two guys with the potential for Hall of Fame careers and some absolutely awesome NFL games. All to be destroyed by injuries and lackluster organizations behind them.
@phillipsosa3353
@phillipsosa3353 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, although RG3 kind of let his ego get the best of him especially when he told Washington he wants to stop running. That's like Lamar telling the Ravens he doesn't want to run anymore
@RyanAlexanderBloom
@RyanAlexanderBloom 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think RG3 ever had potential. He’s just so fragile. If you look at his knees even before all the injuries there’s just something mechanically unsound about them. He was always going to have knee injuries. And in fact he had 3 in 5 years.
@DrZaius3141
@DrZaius3141 2 жыл бұрын
Those organizations are largely responsible for those injuries. Coaches back then were too stupid to make use of dual threat QBs. That's actually what made Kaepernick so special, because he was smart enough to avoid those big injuries. Nowadays, RPOs and QB draws are designed in a way that protects the QB much more. While Kyler Murray for example has had a few injuries, there were barely any tackles that felt like they could be career enders.
@Raisin_
@Raisin_ 2 жыл бұрын
@@RyanAlexanderBloom don't think you cant ever say someone "never had potential" without ever witnessing such. the redskins were in a tough spot having sean taylor's passing and their believed franchise qb campbell traded for a washed up donovan mcnabb. I lived in DC during this time and literally EVERYBODY was expecting RG3 to be our savior. He was pushed too much and asked to do things out of his comfort zone very early on before he even got to show he was his own thing. This is why you hear so many people say 'he was lamar jackson before lamar jackson was lamar jackson'. That goes to show how better of a coach John Harbaugh is and the Ravens organization is than the Redskins were
@cowboys25489
@cowboys25489 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly said man
@thedistantprinceinyouremai6345
@thedistantprinceinyouremai6345 2 жыл бұрын
What happened to Andrew luck is a cautionary tale for every tanking franchise. You have to be ready to flip the switch and build a winner
@drtr3173
@drtr3173 2 жыл бұрын
Shit at least build a decent offensive line
@37willdog
@37willdog 2 жыл бұрын
I'm worried about Trevor Lawrence for this reason. The Jags have not shown that they are capable of this in the last decade plus
@Mchenrygames
@Mchenrygames 2 жыл бұрын
agreed, the Colts tanked the 2011 season
@DepravedCoTApologist
@DepravedCoTApologist 2 жыл бұрын
Cincinnati is hopefully following this advice for Burrow. I just hope they see that there's still more work to be done on the team instead of getting complacent since they improbably won the AFC North this year
@newmedia5255
@newmedia5255 2 жыл бұрын
@@37willdog Lawrence is doomed
@djobe420
@djobe420 2 жыл бұрын
Kirk Cousins stats are actually incredible compared to the rest of this class. He played 32 less games than Russ and only has 4,000 less yards. More td's and less interception than Tannehill with a higher completion percentage as well.
@Ethan-vj5yi
@Ethan-vj5yi 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but he’s inconsistent and can never lead his team
@TheEnderfusion
@TheEnderfusion 2 жыл бұрын
Also he’s never led a team passed the divisional round
@PedigreeSpear619
@PedigreeSpear619 2 жыл бұрын
My MVP, Kirko Bangs
@thomasdaniels6824
@thomasdaniels6824 2 жыл бұрын
I like that
@johnchedsey1306
@johnchedsey1306 2 жыл бұрын
Stats, schmats. He's not a winner when it matters most.
@krypticsz4154
@krypticsz4154 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew Luck is the greatest "WHAT Could've Been." The Colts destroyed his career. He was wreckless to a point but he didn't derail his career. Lack of support is what knocked him down. He looked completely depressed announcing his retirement & even the fans turned on him booing him out of the stadium. Had he had the support he should've had, the Colts would be having their own dynasty rn.
@NashDTV
@NashDTV 2 жыл бұрын
For real imagine had they have given him a Line.
@abeninan4017
@abeninan4017 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Pagano.
@Ps7apple
@Ps7apple 2 жыл бұрын
Completely agreed
@ItBePatYo
@ItBePatYo 2 жыл бұрын
I was one who never booed him. I felt sorry for him. If we had only had an offensive line to protect him. I can only say sorry. It pisses me off seeing what Grigson did to the Colts.
@abeninan4017
@abeninan4017 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItBePatYo It was all Pagano.
@ChiseledAdonis
@ChiseledAdonis 2 жыл бұрын
I'll never forgive the colts for what their front office did to Andrew Luck.
@soniabrito5941
@soniabrito5941 2 жыл бұрын
Fax, love you chiseled adonis
@drunkenmmamaster419
@drunkenmmamaster419 2 жыл бұрын
Ah shit my boy is here
@ace_stallion
@ace_stallion 2 жыл бұрын
As a Colts fan, I can never forgive our franchise either. All we can offer are words of apology. I'm sorry Andrew.
@nickniehaus1763
@nickniehaus1763 2 жыл бұрын
Grigson tried, pagano sucked.
@brendanclarkson4437
@brendanclarkson4437 2 жыл бұрын
The front office? Maybe try blaming the REAL problem. Ryan Grigson. It was the fault of their GM and their GM alone. He cared more about his ego than the team. There are multiple coaches that have come out since then and told stories of how Grigson outright REFUSED to draft offensive linemen despite the extreme need for it. I hate hearing the same old “wah wah colts front office this and that”. They did what they could, not sure if you understand football but the GM? Ryan Grigson? He holds a little bit more power than the coaching staff.
@SleepyRainTrain
@SleepyRainTrain 2 жыл бұрын
I had so much faith in RGIII. So sad to see him fall apart after injuries.
@johnchedsey1306
@johnchedsey1306 2 жыл бұрын
Had he been drafted by a different team, he probably would have had a pretty okay career. What the Deadskins did to him should be seen a criminal. Dan Snyder ruins everything.
@tubbs2552
@tubbs2552 2 жыл бұрын
It reminds me so much of Derrick Rose
@aharontyson6958
@aharontyson6958 2 жыл бұрын
I called him a bust when i heard he was being considered a 1st round prospect. Wrong skill set to be successful long term in NFL and I was right
@tubbs2552
@tubbs2552 2 жыл бұрын
@@aharontyson6958 I feel with more time r G3 become a better more long-term player but he didn’t have a lot of time
@SleepyRainTrain
@SleepyRainTrain 2 жыл бұрын
@@aharontyson6958 I think classifying him as a “bust” is very unfair. He showed in his rookie season that his skillset made him an exceptional NFL player. Now 1/3 of NFL teams have RGIII type QBs and many of them doing well. Look at Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. Injuries can happen to anyone and he got a bad break.
@kevinhenry4047
@kevinhenry4047 2 жыл бұрын
I’m old enough to remember when Bleacher Report gave the Seahawks drafting Russ a grade letter F. Little did people know he would end up being the best QB in the class.
@chaostopia
@chaostopia 2 жыл бұрын
Your not wrong. But If Indy invested in a O-Line for Luck a bit, he would still be playing as well.
@stephonwilliams5232
@stephonwilliams5232 2 жыл бұрын
N.F.W did Bleacher report give the Seahawks A LOLOL
@AKUNJIG
@AKUNJIG 2 жыл бұрын
I took that guy in the 15th Round in my Fantasy Draft before he was announced the Starter because I knew he was going to be amazing.
@Xzrohrh
@Xzrohrh 2 жыл бұрын
@@chaostopia Russ has had arguably a worse o line during his career
@spinningwenis1933
@spinningwenis1933 2 жыл бұрын
@@Xzrohrh luck had multiple seasons and not to mention back to back years being the most sacked player. They only invested in the line his last before retirement. Wilson’s line currently is better than any line luck had barring the 2018 season when Nelson was drafted
@jamesfitzgerald1684
@jamesfitzgerald1684 2 жыл бұрын
Something you failed to mention in the RGIII section. It wasn't the organization or coaching staff that wanted RGIII to become a pocket passer. It was RGIII and his dad that wanted that. They went to the owner to force the coaching staff to do that. Because the coach Mike Shanahan refused to do it.
@DeadSexyAdamCheney
@DeadSexyAdamCheney 2 жыл бұрын
Shanahan is a great coach and was using rg3 to his strengths while he became a better passer. I think if after he hurt his knee he should have stayed out but his pride forced him back in the game and he made it worse.
@RGsmokinthathunnitHMNdawgpound
@RGsmokinthathunnitHMNdawgpound 2 жыл бұрын
Stop lying bro the Washington football team set me up to get hurt
@RGsmokinthathunnitHMNdawgpound
@RGsmokinthathunnitHMNdawgpound 2 жыл бұрын
They both knew I was injured and throw me into the game
@pretorious700
@pretorious700 2 жыл бұрын
RG3 was a gigantic prima donna. Lots of ignorant fans blame Shanahan for his downfall. No true. RG3 went over the coachs' head to the idiot owner and played hurt.
@Daniel-dr2jb
@Daniel-dr2jb 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeadSexyAdamCheney Shanahan was a terrible couch in Washington. He had RG3 out there on a knee brace. What did he think was going to happen. Coaches make the decisions, not players.They’re accountable for everyone
@skaterhawk66
@skaterhawk66 2 жыл бұрын
He was my favorite player ever. He retired on my 18th birthday the year the colts were favored to win the super bowl. Andrew was a joy to watch play, a shame they never gave him weapons or an o line till his last year.
@charlesburroughs9770
@charlesburroughs9770 2 жыл бұрын
No weapons until his last year, Seriously!!! 2012 - Reggie Wayne, Colby Fleener, Dwayne Allen!!! 2013 - T.Y. Hilton, Colby Fleener!!! 2014 - T.Y. Hilton, Reggie Wayne, Colby Fleener, Dwayne Allen!!! 2015 - NO Luck...Frank Gore, T.Y. Hilton, Donte Moncrief, Colby Fleener, Dwayne Allen!!! 2016 - Frank Gore, T.Y. Hilton, Andre Johnson, Jack Doyle, Dwayne Allen!!!
@robbyrdog
@robbyrdog 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesburroughs9770 exactly these clowns have no clue what their talking about and just want to make excuses for the quitter
@ViolentMLG
@ViolentMLG 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesburroughs9770 He said Weapons, not receivers. The only 2 Weapons on that list are Reggie and TY. Johnson is a weapon but was past his prime by that point and wasn't an elite receiver. With that being said, yes, the Colts did at times have above-average receiving cores. Issue was mainly the O-line.
@DaleGribble1
@DaleGribble1 2 жыл бұрын
@@charlesburroughs9770 3/4 of those players weren't very good. And none of them fix the Oline Logic exists. Give it a try
@patrickburk5668
@patrickburk5668 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew luck could come back rn and be a top 15 qb day one if he wanted to. I’m glad he understands his health is more important than a damn game.
@pika9752
@pika9752 2 жыл бұрын
doubtful..talent wise yea but hes just too fragile he wouldnt make the season
@gamersfreefood
@gamersfreefood 2 жыл бұрын
@@pika9752 now we have a good oline, so hopefully he would be decent
@robbyrdog
@robbyrdog 2 жыл бұрын
He’s not man enough to play
@choiyatlam2552
@choiyatlam2552 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamersfreefood no offense to Carson Wentz, but you’d take luck any given Sunday.
@_will795
@_will795 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbyrdog bait?
@chunt7343
@chunt7343 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Demetrius Harris, the TE who caught the TD pass from Dontari Poe at the end of the video, was also the first player Patrick Mahomes completed a pass to in the NFL.
@awesomebeast7509
@awesomebeast7509 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Demetrius Harris, the TE who caught the pass from Dontari Poe at the end of the video, was the first player Dontari Poe completed a pass in the NFL.
@rexblade504
@rexblade504 2 жыл бұрын
Luck's "reckless play style" was not to blame, but the complete lack of an offensive line is what caused him to get injured so much and retire early
@nathan.d.c
@nathan.d.c 2 жыл бұрын
It's honestly sad how good the offensive line has gotten since his retirement.
@kevinhenry4047
@kevinhenry4047 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah a shaky O-line, no real run game, and lack of weapons outside of T.Y Hilton and a few others made Luck feel like he had to play hero ball. Which lead to him being reckless with his body and turning the ball over a lot.
@chrissystone8537
@chrissystone8537 2 жыл бұрын
Very true
@JaKingScomez
@JaKingScomez 2 жыл бұрын
Alot of qbs have had bet offensive lines his play style was 100% a factor
@rexblade504
@rexblade504 2 жыл бұрын
@@JaKingScomez and a lot of those QBs had their careers ruined by injuries
@RandomnessMusician
@RandomnessMusician 2 жыл бұрын
Brandon Weeden is a Texans legend, as he led us to our first win in Lucas Oil Stadium It took over a decade, but Weeden did it
@redstwok1123
@redstwok1123 2 жыл бұрын
And he did it after being inserted at half time, down 10-0. He then commanded the team into the playoff, and should have been the QB for the playoffs instead of Hoyer, who got beaten badly. BoB has the worst judgement for QBs because he then used Osweiler and Savage from Rutgers as starting QBs. Weeden could have been a Tannehill at that point because of the talent on the offense.
@jlobiafra
@jlobiafra 2 жыл бұрын
@@redstwok1123 weedon was terrible when he was Romo's backup in dallas prior to him being on the Texans.
@redstwok1123
@redstwok1123 2 жыл бұрын
@@jlobiafra I dont think so. He wasn't good enough to win the games he started, but won the one he took over, coming from behind. One of the loss wasnt his fault, and his QBR wasn't bad, and finished ahead of Romo that year. In fact, Weeden held the distinction of leading 2 NFL teams that year in QBR.
@patrickwhelpley1745
@patrickwhelpley1745 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is Weeden and Oklahoma State beat the sure thing Andrew Luck & Stanford in the Fiesta Bowl a few months before the draft.
@redstwok1123
@redstwok1123 2 жыл бұрын
@James Black That's true, but just stating the facts.
@jacksonsheldon41
@jacksonsheldon41 2 жыл бұрын
I remember my older cousin played against Andrew luck when he was a junior or senior in HS. That man was nice even back then. It was so much talent in Houston back in the mid to late 2000s.
@booce6969
@booce6969 2 жыл бұрын
all time QB class, even considering the unfulfilled potential
@_nso_12
@_nso_12 2 жыл бұрын
@Aimi Yusri wtf
@Nick-ew8ww
@Nick-ew8ww 2 жыл бұрын
@Aimi Yusri Uh what
@topdogalpha
@topdogalpha 2 жыл бұрын
2006 dradt class goated if unfulfilled is the measurement
@Joshua-ev9uw
@Joshua-ev9uw 2 жыл бұрын
@@_nso_12 I got him reported. Hate spam like that
@texasguy5377
@texasguy5377 2 жыл бұрын
@Aimi Yusri reported
@RobdaVegasMailman
@RobdaVegasMailman 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew Luck also helped to create one of the greatest handles in Twitter history. He made his mother proud.
@CatnamedMittens
@CatnamedMittens 2 жыл бұрын
What's the handle?
@Matt-dp7ze
@Matt-dp7ze 2 жыл бұрын
@@CatnamedMittens I’m guessing it’s the @CaptAndrewLuck account
@phantomdriver2010
@phantomdriver2010 2 жыл бұрын
Poe throwing a TD is awesome I love when the big boys like DT and OL get some love
@darrelltaber466
@darrelltaber466 2 жыл бұрын
If the colts actually gave Luck protection he would still be in the league. Could you imagine just how good the colts would be right now with that current offensive line?
@robbyrdog
@robbyrdog 2 жыл бұрын
The year he quit we had arguably the best line in the league and he quit mid preseason. He’s hated in our state. Only people who like him are non Colts fans who are better off without him in the league.
@JD-jz5gu
@JD-jz5gu 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbyrdog So? What does the line being good the year he reignited have to do with any of that?
@robbyrdog
@robbyrdog 2 жыл бұрын
@@JD-jz5gu the whole excuse for him quitting was not having a decent line….???
@JD-jz5gu
@JD-jz5gu 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbyrdog So? If the line was bad his whole career how should he know the line would be good the year he retired…….
@JD-jz5gu
@JD-jz5gu 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbyrdog And also, he didn’t quit because the line sucked, he quit because of all of his injuries and how those injuries affected him mentally. Sure, the line played a part in that, but it’s not the whole reason he hung it up
@coltsfan209
@coltsfan209 2 жыл бұрын
4:38 gotta disagree with you KTO. General Manager Ryan Grigson never addressed the offensive line, so Luck would constantly take hard hits. I feel this was the biggest reason to his injuries
@j.antoniomora7765
@j.antoniomora7765 2 жыл бұрын
They tried but were unsucessful.
@robbyrdog
@robbyrdog 2 жыл бұрын
The year he quit the Colts had arguably the best o line in the league…he quit mid preseason the guy is a joke.
@coltsfan209
@coltsfan209 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbyrdog yeah because coming back from a torn abdomen, a lacerated kidney and a severe shoulder injury makes you a joke huh. All of that pain and rehab can take a large tole on anyone’s mental and physical state
@robbyrdog
@robbyrdog 2 жыл бұрын
@@coltsfan209 lmao yeah two weeks before the season starts and we give home the best line in the league…dudes a joke just like anyone who defends what he did. There’s a way you go about doing these things and he handled it very unprofessionally.
@KDR95
@KDR95 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbyrdog Lmao a true hater
@baileyreichert6138
@baileyreichert6138 2 жыл бұрын
You need to do a video on the 2013 QB class. That’d be a fun one. One of the worst QB classes in recent memory
@michaelh1603
@michaelh1603 2 жыл бұрын
That and 2007. I would say that 2007 was way worse than 2013.
@Jacob-mv2mw
@Jacob-mv2mw 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelh1603 07 was horrendous. Looking back at it there is no doubt 07 was the worst.
@robtierney2569
@robtierney2569 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jacob-mv2mw lol i wanted troy smith to be a stud
@masonmann8763
@masonmann8763 2 жыл бұрын
I love when KTO uploads, makes my day!
@SnakeEaterGaming
@SnakeEaterGaming 2 жыл бұрын
10:35 personally I will NEVER forget about Brandon Weedon. I’m a saints fan living in Alaska and I’ve only ever been to 1 regular season game. I’ve been to a handful of pre season games. Anyways in 2015, the saints played the Cowboys in Sunday night football. This was one of those down years for the saints, ending the season 7-9. Romo was hurt for the cowboys so Weedon was starting. And he legit ALMOST BEAT US. Game went to OT and first play Brees threw the ball to CJ Spiller for an 80 yard TD to win the game. Regardless of the win, I will always be thankful Weedon was starting that night, cuz if Romo was playing , it probably would of been 20-45 saints lose.
@patrickwhelpley1745
@patrickwhelpley1745 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is Weeden and Oklahoma State beat the sure thing Andrew Luck & Stanford in the Fiesta Bowl a few months before the draft.
@Roel1123
@Roel1123 2 жыл бұрын
I'd argue the most memorable pass by a player from this draft class was a pass by Russell Wilson from a certain 1 yard line...
@isaaccameron3105
@isaaccameron3105 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the most memorable throw from this draft class was “intercepted at the goal line”
@jordonsmith3132
@jordonsmith3132 2 жыл бұрын
Still hurts
@coltbarquist9800
@coltbarquist9800 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t rub it in It still stings
@choiyatlam2552
@choiyatlam2552 2 жыл бұрын
The throw that becomes a meme.
@jakeelephant006
@jakeelephant006 2 жыл бұрын
Wilson's goal line pick in the super bowl was also pretty memorable.
@16ktsgamma
@16ktsgamma 2 жыл бұрын
Or the Failception.
@joemam7855
@joemam7855 2 жыл бұрын
@@16ktsgamma the ball goes to the receiver in that cituation it wasn’t a bad call
@16ktsgamma
@16ktsgamma 2 жыл бұрын
@@joemam7855 Ha ha, you mean it gets intercepted.
@idontgivetkachuk
@idontgivetkachuk 2 жыл бұрын
Great job! I remember how hyped up Luck was. All you would hear is how good of a Qb he was. This class was somethin else and shaped the NFL for the next decade if you think about it.
@ramuelcruzada3207
@ramuelcruzada3207 2 жыл бұрын
I wish McDavid will not turn into Luck...
@joelwalberg9802
@joelwalberg9802 2 жыл бұрын
As a Seahawks fan I thought the most talked about pass was going to be Russel throwing it on the goal line to lose the super bowl. The one QB from this class that is often forgot about with a unique story is Case Keenum. The guy put up ridiculous numbers at Houston, went undrafted, but has had some good moments in the NFL. I know he's a backup now, but he's definitely had success.
@AJHart-eg1ys
@AJHart-eg1ys 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, if we count one good season in a career of a guy with a losing record "success" ...
@luther1546
@luther1546 2 жыл бұрын
It's hilarious to see how much less insanely cluttered and over the top the ESPN set was in 2012.
@itsAFK
@itsAFK 2 жыл бұрын
i love these video going back on drafts and seeing them now especially since i dont keep up with football let alone drafts thanks 👍
@blindfire3167
@blindfire3167 2 жыл бұрын
If Luck didn't get the shit kicked out of him, I think he would have won at least 1 super bowl. It just sucks that he was with the Colts who thought they could cheap out on an O-LIne to protect him because he was more mobile than Manning ever could be.
@Bosierman
@Bosierman 2 жыл бұрын
Wish you talked about Brock Osweiler's story of leaving the broncos after Payton left to join the Texans for the pay raise. Would have loved to hear it again
@awesomebeast7509
@awesomebeast7509 2 жыл бұрын
My favorite part about the Brock Osweiler story is that he was so bad and the Texans regretted the contract so much, that they traded a 2nd round pick to the Browns just to get rid of him. Gotta respect him for the 41 million dollar finesse.
@NashDTV
@NashDTV 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how he would’ve been had he stayed with the Broncos he played well with that system.
@JD-jz5gu
@JD-jz5gu 2 жыл бұрын
@@awesomebeast7509 what😂😂😂
@awesomebeast7509
@awesomebeast7509 2 жыл бұрын
@@JD-jz5gu Man used Peyton Mannings degrading arm to finesse the Texans into paying him 41 mil. Can’t hate on him for securing his bag💰
@JD-jz5gu
@JD-jz5gu 2 жыл бұрын
@@awesomebeast7509 hell no, that’s actually amazing. He finessed the Texans, then Bill O’Brien did then deshaun Watson😂😂😂
@willclapp61
@willclapp61 2 жыл бұрын
RGIII had vaugus knee, where your knees cave inward. in his broad jump during the combine, his knees caved in when he landed. his knee problem is what caused his knee injury
@chopkong
@chopkong 2 жыл бұрын
Correction: Ryan Tannehill was not a receiver when he went to A&M. He was a QB who was beat out by Jerrod Johnson. Tannehill wanted to play, so they had him play wide receiver and due to his athleticism, he shined at WR, but he still attended the QB room meetings and was still listed as a backup QB. When Jerrod Johnson got injured, Tannehill got his chance and was spectacular. He played midway through his junior year and all of his senior year. Sorry, but I think it's important to correct the record. Tannehill was handicapped the first part of his career at Miami with an incompetent owner, head coaching carousel, and porous O-LIne.
@Serch_YB27
@Serch_YB27 2 жыл бұрын
Besides the magical runs Foles has with Phily in 17'-18' AND 18'-19' he also had a great 2013 season as a starter for the eagles. He is very incosistent but he might be the best backup QB of all time.
@djobe420
@djobe420 2 жыл бұрын
That 2013 season Foles had is still the 3rd highest Qb rating of all time. Only 3rd to Aaron Rodgers and Aaron Rodgers.
@djobe420
@djobe420 2 жыл бұрын
Also his td to int ratio is 2nd best of all time only losing out by .5 to Tom Brady.
@KermitTheGamer21
@KermitTheGamer21 2 жыл бұрын
He came back down 14-0 to beat the Seahawks two weeks ago, with the greatest 2pt play I've ever seen
@aesir1ases64
@aesir1ases64 2 жыл бұрын
and he threw 7 tds in a game that season, which is the shared record of tds in a single game
@BlasphometicHermetic
@BlasphometicHermetic 2 жыл бұрын
I’m still singing the Andrew Luck blues in Indy. He still lives around here though so it’s nice the fans that booed him didn’t run him off completely.
@37willdog
@37willdog 2 жыл бұрын
Can't believe it's already been 10 years. I feel old
@mrno_name9518
@mrno_name9518 2 жыл бұрын
KTO this is the greatest qb class of our era. 90s babies
@averageatbestva
@averageatbestva 2 жыл бұрын
As a Colts fan, one of my biggest “what if” questions is just how good the Colts would be if Andrew Luck was on this current Colts team. Ryan Grigson left him out there to get killed with his piss poor management. 😩
@nicktomasek8941
@nicktomasek8941 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching these videos because these are the QBs that were on the rise when I was becoming a real football fan and it's very interesting seeing their careers in a detailed hindsight. I also love reading the title of the video and predicting what play you'll put as the beat drop and I did not guess Dontari Poe lol... great video
@nicktomasek8941
@nicktomasek8941 2 жыл бұрын
@John Nichols I’m a Packers fan, but out of this class I like seeing the guys succeed, I like watching everyone succeed, especially guys like Foles and Russ who were way over looked
@frefai
@frefai 2 жыл бұрын
I'll still say Luck will be the greatest "could've been" story in the NFL. He was an elite talent and his only knock was that he took too many risks with his body. Barring those terrible injuries he had a HOF trajectory career
@wilsonsierra6281
@wilsonsierra6281 2 жыл бұрын
That Dontari Poe play always makes me smile. Great way to start my morning
@ShahPhilLeotardo
@ShahPhilLeotardo 2 жыл бұрын
Selecting Brandon Weeden was such a Cleveland Brown’s thing to do.🤣
@scottbeesley7988
@scottbeesley7988 2 жыл бұрын
He was good in college
@Weezy10580
@Weezy10580 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottbeesley7988 Yeah all QBs were good in the Big12 little kid
@patrickwhelpley1745
@patrickwhelpley1745 2 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is he and Oklahoma State beat the sure thing Andrew Luck & Stanford in the Fiesta Bowl a few months before the draft.
@GrumpyLib6969
@GrumpyLib6969 2 жыл бұрын
@@Weezy10580 He was the best in the big 12 and tons of other good QBs came out of the big 12? He was probably drafted early, but the dude had pretty much no chance at the Browns. They were at peak dysfunction.
@williamapodaca8614
@williamapodaca8614 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget that the Panthers ended up with Cam because Luck stayed an extra year in college.
@selfishstockton6123
@selfishstockton6123 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to the Colts lack of an O Line, Luck’s insides were turned to jelly
@peterlowry6990
@peterlowry6990 2 жыл бұрын
I feel bad for Osweiler not getting any mention here. It was an injury that brought Manning back into that Broncos team. If anything, the Broncos improved with Brock at the helm. Even if his last start didn't prompt any great quarterback controversy.
@Zelein
@Zelein 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't think calling Luck's playstyle reckless was the core reason the man no longer plays. I blame the lack of a line, decisions of coaching staff and overall management. The Colts ruined him. When you get a QB like that, you protect him at all cost. And the Colts never did that.
@steveschmidt3961
@steveschmidt3961 2 жыл бұрын
i really appreciate people like you and flemlo for doing such good research i mean you probably remember this stuff happening somewhat but not everything most things you need to do some real research which i really thank you for.
@BRONODICE
@BRONODICE 2 жыл бұрын
I’d say Wilson interception in the super bowl was pretty memorable
@cloud5891
@cloud5891 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@KicksAndSnares92
@KicksAndSnares92 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget that Brock Osweiler is a super bowl champion as well
@bryanlanda
@bryanlanda 2 жыл бұрын
I would argue that the most memorable pass from this class was Malcolm Butler’s pick in SBXLIX
@standoughope
@standoughope 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how that ad threw shade at Hulu...they didn't even change the name to Huloo or NextFlix. Straight up "why would I pay for an ap that gives me no pleasure at all, like Hulu"
@frozedokkanbattle
@frozedokkanbattle 2 жыл бұрын
Love the channel keep up the great work
@leonb2637
@leonb2637 2 жыл бұрын
Often early to mid-1st round QB's are going to teams with serious issues that makes them at risk of injuries and failure.
@Kritacul
@Kritacul 2 жыл бұрын
Due to injuries, one of THE potentially greatest QBs we have seen in a generation didn't live up to what he was sadly. Man, what he could've done if not for those injuries.
@pika9752
@pika9752 2 жыл бұрын
despite not having great numbers and also retiring I think Osweiler had a really good time for himself.Got a massive contract and got a superbowl ring by covering for manning in the playoffs then ran to the bank at 30. Well done!
@gc8568
@gc8568 2 жыл бұрын
If you’re taken to replace Peyton Manning and live up to the hype you’re definitely worth it. Such a shame Andrew Lucks career was ruined by injuries.
@pohorex6834
@pohorex6834 Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how every single draft class is the most hyped class ever
@kodiakbrogan1691
@kodiakbrogan1691 2 жыл бұрын
Most memorable pass from this class is Wilson intercepted by Malcolm Butler at the goal line
@shawnredmond8402
@shawnredmond8402 2 жыл бұрын
I miss 2012 so much please take me back to 2012
@shawnredmond8402
@shawnredmond8402 2 жыл бұрын
RgGOAT
@qpeocn
@qpeocn 2 жыл бұрын
Luck hanged up the cleats too soon. He was the guy, the next generational QB. Dude could've won multiple MvPs and perhaps SBs. But, just not with the Colts lol. If only he wasn't so banged up.
@qpeocn
@qpeocn 2 жыл бұрын
@Peters6221 Yup, I agree with you bud. It's unfortunate that the Colts was only able to get all the pieces together after Luck left. The current squad they got now would be terrifying with Luck under center.
@Parkerk234
@Parkerk234 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the 2014 AFC championship against the patriots also helped broke Andrew luck. As a patriots fan I feel terrible
@mxcnbigboyz619
@mxcnbigboyz619 2 жыл бұрын
As a colts fan I 100% blame the team’s inability to protect Luck and draft an o-line. We let him down, not so much his play style
@robbyrdog
@robbyrdog 2 жыл бұрын
He quit on us mid preseason after we gave him one of the best lines in the league…stop making excuses for him.
@mxcnbigboyz619
@mxcnbigboyz619 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbyrdog I don’t know if you’ve ever had to extensive rehab on a reconstructed joint, but it’s about as bad as it gets. Not being able to pick your grandkids is not worth playing a game. He endured years of car crash like impact for his team until he couldn’t give anymore.
@robbyrdog
@robbyrdog 2 жыл бұрын
@@mxcnbigboyz619 he quit two weeks before the season started after we got him an amazing line…he went about quitting in a horrible way. You making excuses for him just shows how soft this generation is
@mxcnbigboyz619
@mxcnbigboyz619 2 жыл бұрын
@@robbyrdog i wasn’t a fan of how he left but he doesn’t owe you a damn thing, thinking he does shows how selfish and full of themselves your generation is
@robbyrdog
@robbyrdog 2 жыл бұрын
@@mxcnbigboyz619 that’s fine but he’s not getting any praise for being a quitter lmao soft asss 😂
@redskinsanddawgs
@redskinsanddawgs 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. I always can’t for for the outro gets me so hype everytime
@AKUNJIG
@AKUNJIG 2 жыл бұрын
Nick Foles was so good that I was bummed that he got Benched for Sam Bradford. Once he made his Return it was Legendary. His Statue of when he Said to Coach Peterson "You want to do the Philly Philly?" is Displayed at the Stadium. God Bless the Saint Nick!
@ErikCB912
@ErikCB912 2 жыл бұрын
He wasn’t benched for Bradford. Chip Kelly traded Foles to Rams in exchange for Bradford to replace him.
@AKUNJIG
@AKUNJIG 2 жыл бұрын
@@ErikCB912 I completely forgot that he got Traded.
@thenumberquelve158
@thenumberquelve158 2 жыл бұрын
I have to appreciate you making a video like this, if for no other reason than you KNOW full well you can't make it without talking about another dark moment in the history of your favorite team. I also never thought about the Robert Griffin III tragedy like that before. I always thought that management completely screwed him after his injury, but I guess there's another side of the story. That definitely explains why he never had a resurgence after he left Washington, much as I wanted him to. (....Well, that and he kept getting extra injuries on top of his old one... So I'd still say it's mostly tragic and not what he deserved.)
@RunYoBreadUp
@RunYoBreadUp 2 жыл бұрын
It's always nice when KTO uploads
@frenchfrey65
@frenchfrey65 2 жыл бұрын
this new year keeps getting better, thanks KTO!
@Xjebin
@Xjebin 2 жыл бұрын
The most memorable pass from the 2012 draft class is definitely Russell Wilson’s super bowl interception but alright
@Tegz25
@Tegz25 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always flames!! Keep up the good work!
@connorhfishing213
@connorhfishing213 2 жыл бұрын
I love tannehil, I’m a fins fan but he made me a football fan so that’s always gonna be my quarterback
@fredfredburger3611
@fredfredburger3611 2 жыл бұрын
The most memorable pass made by someone in this draft class was made by an undrafted player, not by Dontari Poe. Case Keenum to Steffon Diggs in the playoffs, Keenum went undrafted out of Houston after graduating with the NCAA record for career passing yards.
@Potens13
@Potens13 2 жыл бұрын
Na, as unfortunately as it was, the most memorable pass was made by Russel Wilson at the end of Superbowl XLIX. That shit still wakes me up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night.
@KermitTheGamer21
@KermitTheGamer21 2 жыл бұрын
How do you go undrafted after breaking a record like that...?
@zsorens4570
@zsorens4570 2 жыл бұрын
I love the chuckle when you said "The Browns would go on to draft Johnny Manziel"
@jakegarman4526
@jakegarman4526 2 жыл бұрын
Say what you want about Cousins. But he proved people wrong in this class and there’s no doubt from what he’s accomplished as a 4th rounder is a huge success
@robertsnyder7440
@robertsnyder7440 Жыл бұрын
I agree he turned into a decent QB he’s made some mistakes in the playoffs but that happens Edit: I used him for years in Washington as my QB he was a great fantasy QB back then
@tariq_thagoat4347
@tariq_thagoat4347 2 жыл бұрын
It’s Crazy to think it’s alr been ten years!
@Coltsfan36951
@Coltsfan36951 2 жыл бұрын
As a Colts fan this is why I hate Ryan Grigson so much. He ruined Luck’s career. Only if we had Ballard then
@lampini
@lampini 2 жыл бұрын
the 2012 QB class will really go down as one of the most memorable in history because it went completely opposite of what anyone could have expected.
@AJHart-eg1ys
@AJHart-eg1ys 2 жыл бұрын
The stories tend to be the careers cut short, and the value in later rounds. But this was not some hugely hyped class. It was acknowledged at the time that it was only 1.5 QBs deep.:)
@brian2440
@brian2440 2 жыл бұрын
@@AJHart-eg1ys It was pretty deep. I’m seeing Ridder being hyped as a QB for winning 44 games. Moore holds the all time NCAA record at 50 wins and went undrafted in this class
@AJHart-eg1ys
@AJHart-eg1ys 2 жыл бұрын
@@brian2440 I think Simms has Ridder as his No. 1. The others not so much.
@Snanthx
@Snanthx 2 жыл бұрын
Andrew Luck one of my favorite QBs ever. I miss him, hope he’s doing good
@albertoskrico9412
@albertoskrico9412 2 жыл бұрын
It’s always a great day when KTO drops a video
@josephgarcia4475
@josephgarcia4475 2 жыл бұрын
Both luck and griffin were screwed by their franchises. Luck got hit way too much and griffin still took a snap when he was clearly hurt then tore his acl; he was never the same.
@rbeforme
@rbeforme 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Packers fan, and I'll always give credit where it's due when it comes to Kirk Cousins. Everyone should. Arguably the most underrated QB in the league today.
@TheJkLol
@TheJkLol 2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how good some drafts are even when there are weak QBs/other positions
@adamcarroll6438
@adamcarroll6438 2 жыл бұрын
Look no further than 2007 or 2011 (besides Newton)
@IllMatic97
@IllMatic97 2 жыл бұрын
Well, the QB spot is literally almost impossible to get right when it comes to these drafts. At the end of the day it either comes down to the player and his skills/work effort or the team and the scheme.
@squantochub5033
@squantochub5033 2 жыл бұрын
Nick foles career went backwards from most quarterbacks: first he was super bowl MVP, then he became a backup QB, and now he's a third string QB
@Murftree74
@Murftree74 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if this colts team still had Andrew luck
@robbyrdog
@robbyrdog 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly…screw that quitter.
@abbiewaters1085
@abbiewaters1085 2 жыл бұрын
The outro is always my fave part, keep it up!
@Tristanluvgod
@Tristanluvgod 2 жыл бұрын
I miss Andrew Luck 😭😭😭😭
@mrno_name9518
@mrno_name9518 2 жыл бұрын
I always assumed he would come back, and they did it to save money …but no he really was retired for good it’s sad he was truly elite
@jacobgreene4331
@jacobgreene4331 2 жыл бұрын
Most memorable play for me had to be the Russell Wilson pick on the 1 yard line in the superbowl
@B-Mag
@B-Mag 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine what Andrew Luck could have done with the personnel that Russel got
@craigbutler540
@craigbutler540 2 жыл бұрын
Greatest football channel out there. Great work
@justyouraveragetrashcan5384
@justyouraveragetrashcan5384 2 жыл бұрын
As a die hard colts fan I miss luck 😭 he was that dude and grigson/pagano failed him miserably
@007Dirtysouth
@007Dirtysouth 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of guys do what KTO does and they do it well. I can honestly say nobody in this genre on KZbin ends videos better than KTO. As a former defensive lineman you gotta love it!
@BigmacYT1
@BigmacYT1 2 жыл бұрын
After Andrew luck laid out that USC defender on the fumble recovery, I had a feeling he’d be special. It’s so sad to see how badly he was banged up. He could’ve been special. He could’ve made it to canton.
@TeezyHadaBaby
@TeezyHadaBaby Жыл бұрын
Shanahan always said it was RG3 and his parents that didn't want to run any more, he wanted to be like Luck 😂😂😂
@masonpayne1500
@masonpayne1500 2 жыл бұрын
never clicked on a vid so fast!
@jakenoll4055
@jakenoll4055 2 жыл бұрын
very true
@bryantlucas6006
@bryantlucas6006 2 жыл бұрын
You just earned a subscriber keep up with this great content & would love for you to cover more quarterbacks from the 80's up to now!
@BottleRocket11
@BottleRocket11 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I see that Weeden pick vs the Lions from 2013, another part of me dies inside knowing I was there in person to witness that. The worst pass in nfl history
@mysteryman447
@mysteryman447 2 жыл бұрын
0:24 is that Skip Bayless on the far right lol
@kylerasmussen8045
@kylerasmussen8045 2 жыл бұрын
Russell Wilson's easily the best QB from this draft
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