$5,000 If You Win This HOI4 Multiplayer Game!

[@TommyKay]

It's time for The Great Game II and this time around it will be Axis vs Allies in a historical WW2 setting Watch as some of the best HOI4 players battle it out for the grand prize pool of $5,000! ➤ DiscardPixel POV (Axis) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/Zn7LfXt8qMmCadU ➤ Dankus POV (Allies) - kzbin.infovideos

[@TommyKay]

I'm not sure if there are any other POVs that will be uploaded in the following days. Make sure to check the description for links to all the players in the tournament that stream/make videos! There's a chance Bitt3rSteel will also make a video on his POV so watch that too, if he does decide to make it!

[@jaythegod2402]

Yeaaaaaaa

[@ahsokasan8175]

www.twitch.tv/seemops300 canada pov

[@creaturebison5863]

Loved the Video and I'll be sure to watch the VOD and the different POVs when they come out. Only one question if you have time of course: what mod did you use?

[@karimmouawad2031]

@@TommyKay can the next great game be 1947 Warsaw pact vs. NATO?,2 years of preparation for the Korean war which would escalate,I know it'll take LOTS of prep but I think it'd be worth a try

[@ryderburk7812]

My great grandparents watching their war where their friends and comrades died horribly be turned into a tournament lmao

[@Xepent]

Maybe don't let your world fucking suck so much idk Great Gramps where were you when Hitler was taking over? Smh mega boomers

[@joemcnaught2716]

it's a game

[@smoke_xl3332]

That's capitalism for ya

[@CirBam24]

@@smoke_xl3332 Ah yes, getting money from your great grandparents' PTSD a classic

[@ryderburk7812]

@@joemcnaught2716 my grandfather looking in horror as the German Reich employs the latest of Dankus’s funny meme tanks

[@Trein05]

Tysm Tommy for letting me be the host again! Even though the game didn't last as long as it was supposed to, I enjoyed it and I hope you guys enjoyed it too!

[@A_Pro_Fuze]

Nederland based

[@Trein05]

@@A_Pro_Fuze zeker

[@Trein05]

@Duplizapper thanks duplizapper

[@septentrionalisimperator8799]

very nice profile pic.

[@Trein05]

@@septentrionalisimperator8799 thanks hahah, chose it when I was 7 but I’m too attached to it to change it

[@Novac_Alexandru]

I can say this is a massive event of hoi4 that shows the unity and dedication of the hoi4 community. It is a pleasure to see a competitive multiplayer game that can be associated with e-sports, even if it isn't considered to be one.

[@PROkiller16]

Man I kind of wish they did completely random nations now, letting them put Dankus on the USSR guaranteed a win.

[@stevepirie8130]

I asked Dankus on his video showing his USSR heavy tank strategy what’s the counter and iirc it was SH3 made by one of the Axis minors to help Germany.

[@qordar]

lol u clearly never play mp games and even if u did u prob played horst which is a trash mod alao they played tfb which is also unbalanced so L, shouldve just played hfu or lw

[@lucasvasconcelos5705]

@@qordar unfortunately owner was being an asshole

[@TheMonkeystick]

@@qordar ???

[@youtuberobbedmeofmyname]

@@TheMonkeystick You obviously don't play modded MP.

[@exstratos2477]

I honestly prefer the team games like this over the 1v1’s. It just feels more grand and closer to home in terms of experience

[@Ausl0vich]

Only problem is that you’re more likely to end up with games like this i.e way too short. You can’t balance things half as well and nations having overpowered focus trees etc is much more likely. There weren’t any cool moments in this great game unlike the first with Budapest holding, Italy being saved and then capped, USA invading the west coast of Spain while three factions battle it out in Europe, etc.

[@TommyKay]

true

[@IAmWarden.]

All the players did great and deserve all the money they got even Australia.

[@TommyKay]

TRUE

[@youngfreshsandwitch]

Golden was a great addition, he compliments tommys comedy well

[@TommyKay]

ye 100%

[@endzor]

​@@TommyKaywhat's the song name at the start? This tournament cheering crowd singin

[@14wayss28]

I mean its hard to say. But Goldens opinion is possibly right. The axis were to unprepared for the mod and didnt even set up the DD Wall.

[@justvibingman496]

Even though the game was shorter than expected, this game was amazing to watch nonetheless. GGs to the players involved

[@TommyKay]

GGS

[@lukaskoukal9545]

What is this mod…ik its mp

[@Everest3000]

It's either the skill diff between teams or an unbalanced mod. Could be both. Anyways, great video! The editing made it really entertaining.

[@googane7755]

I'm the thinking the former. The entire axis played like monkeys with a Germany that can't kill France and needed Italy and Romania to do it, get encircled like an AI in barbarossa and no D-Day wall. The tournament organisers and mod developers spent a lot of time trying to make the game as fair as possible so I don't think this was the issue.

[@villus9384]

@@googane7755 Everyone asked about the mod said it is favored towards the allies atm, although having a weak axis roster didn’t help. After the teams were picked all of twitch chat called allies winning and surprise surprise they did. Rosters should have had team captains for more balance, not random.

[@2Links]

Probably a bit of both

[@snandrew6094]

this is the mod for the bokoen multiplayer community, they spend a lot of time balancing it. While it is slightly allied favoured they still get very even games often, I think it was more of a team balancing issue in this case.

[@AgentLando]

Definitely both, while allies are favoured axis still has a very good chance of winning. But it doesn't help that the player rosters aren't exactly fair.

[@darkconi7565]

The fact that dankus palyed Russia instantly made the game unbalanced. I mean the German player was way weaker than dankus so yeah

[@TommyKay]

true true

[@fynnnichaya1721]

Glad that Tommy is learning so much and host a supportive esports event. A great community!

[@TommyKay]

letws go

[@Aegis---]

i think it would be beneficial to make it a round based competition, such as one team on axis and one team on allies, then they swap, and a coin toss to determine which side for a tiebreaker.

[@bensfons]

The allies where to OP in this session. I mean, they gave Brazil to the US, and made Japan grind hard in China.

[@algiz21]

Yeah kinda weird that they got those countries annexed

[@lilkurva180]

Not only Brazil, but also Mexico. Like that is beyond overkill, no?

[@bensfons]

@@lilkurva180 Exactly. Normally you would need to coordinate with the players of those countries for production, but giving the US direct control over the resources makes production easier. It's weird that the palyers agreed to that.

[@lilkurva180]

@@bensfons Threw the game and split the money lmao. Imagine that

[@ShortHuman1]

Bittersteel being included was sick, love him and dankus together

[@TommyKay]

➤ The Great Game II (Full Information) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/jIPFgJyelt2Ifac This is the 3rd big HOI4 event we have done, make sure to check out the other 2 ➤ The Great Game I (HOI4 $4,000 Battle Royale) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4eapnqthbxnesk ➤ The HOI4 International ($5,000 1v1 Tournament) - kzbin.info/www/bejne/onnCg5aNn6mopK8

[@OHOE1]

Give me my fukin money Mr BigDonger.

[@broccolin]

Finally.

[@LauritzenLucas]

Hope next game is better. This was too unbalanced for the Axis and giving USSR to Dankus was the straw that broke the camel's back.

[@baki5749]

Tommy’s videos are: ✔️Life changing✔️Inspiring✔️Heartwarming ✔️calming ✔️Useful ✔️Enjoyable ✔️Other

[@fedoratheharbinger1726]

Having the iconics darts music at the start is just the best. Builds up the hype.

[@jinstrondabr]

I was hoping for a more well balanced game like the first great game, the soviets absolutely destroyed germany

[@spookyyy3]

The allies won way too fast. From an entertainment point of view that was not fun to watch. Maybe it was the players not being good or me not understating but it felt that the allies were way to strong against the axis.

[@AA-qr4dj]

Tfb has a reputation for being a shit mod around the comp community and I kinda agree so noone actually plays it. The axis players all play oak mainly and there's a few newer players on their team as well so + and the mod got switched a few days before great game. The mod is also very ally biased.

[@snandrew6094]

@@AA-qr4dj yeah tfb is completely balanced around Bokoen games, and they don't play super competitive. Also a lot of the players in this game didn't really seem very well versed in the meta of this mod so they were making a lot of bad decisions build wise.

[@xanpenguin754]

@@AA-qr4dj I wouldn’t say the mod is very allied biased. It’s an air mod so the allies have an advantage if they can make planes. But the axis can win easily.

[@99allthetime]

Dankus as USSR is a monster

[@adrianmoork5271]

I really think it would be a more fun and more fair if it was a best of 3. It would take a longer time and would be played over 2 or 3 days but it would make it a lot more fair because a single mistake or a choke could end the whole thing. Other than that, I think this is the best hoi4 content out there! Keep it up!

[@milkmaster87]

Maybe switch sides after one game so axis plays as allies in 2nd game. If both teams win one game each and even it up, check what date the peace deal happened in their respective wins and who even got an earlier date picks axis or allies for the decider

[@mikeygigs]

Problem with this is that the one team that plays the allies first would get an advantage (since the mod seems a bit unbalanced at the moment). I think Axis vs. Allies can work, and you are right that a best of 3 (or 5) is probably necessary, but I think they need a specific mod for tournament's that allow a more balanced game without negating the flavor of the two sides of WW2.

[@TommyKay]

would take long, gotta think of the entertainment

[@sirundying]

@@TommyKay would be the same thing as this video, except on 3 different days. major entertainment

[@DMiso90]

I agree the previous great game with multiple teams backstabbing each another felt more exciting from start to finish, but loved this one too, thanks for the organization!

[@lostfan10000]

Tommy and Golden seem like they work really well with one another, would love to see them do more together.

[@TommyKay]

aye

[@LewiiiG]

Planet Funk - chase the sun, absolute tune

[@LandoCalani404]

Oh, this was such an immeasurable disappointment.

[@stanislavkaraslavov3090]

The Moment you see Bittersteel on the Soviet Union it is done for the axis.

[@villagemonkey1190]

Lmao Golden talking about throwing

[@snandrew6094]

he knows all about it, very well versed in Germany throws he's the perfect commentator for this lmao

[@Mattyy2599]

Sorry for not dying quick enough, was fun game regardless :)

[@constantinekorkousky3363]

Great playing! You guys almost won right there if Italy didn’t help Germany out. Why didn’t the UK help you though?

[@Mattyy2599]

@@constantinekorkousky3363 thanks and against rules, only France allowed mainland europe before they cap

[@azoniarnl3362]

@@Mattyy2599 There should have been rule forcing Russia to actually defend its borders, even if its just a token defence. Anyway you did well as France :)

[@Mattyy2599]

@@azoniarnl3362 why? no normal russia would ever not hold the stalin line in this mod, except the mod we were meant to use instead has mechanics to force a forward hold (lose equipment and war support for towns in front of river taken in first days of barb)

[@Jelly-lw6ro]

Great video Tommy very fun to watch! everybody played their heart out but I do agree that the first game was more fun to watch with the whole battle royal system

[@thedoomdragon2895]

Seriously though, so much props to Markoni for getting this the day after the event happened

[@patrickward8983]

Just became a dad myself tommy lol you’ll be watching more hoi4 then playing for a few months but it’s so worth it.

[@twky]

Lucifer is a good player, but the pressure of the event and not being ready for Barbarossa really killed him

[@artoriasjim9638]

Golden talking about Germany throwing has me thinking of the “I know a thing or two cuz I’ve seen a thing or two”

[@mwallrabenstein5215]

The propaganda campaigns for every nation are Real nice and should be in the base game like this

[@sirmanfred2586]

I just love relaxing and watching a tommykay video, he's such an energetic person and always brightens my day......thanks Tommy.

[@TheBlackwolf5011]

as soon as I saw dankus was russia and he got a co op. I knew it was over. maybe the axis would have had a chance if they hadn't made so many mistakes. I was cheering for team pixel.

[@ayathados6629]

Yeah, Dankus Russia needs to be nerfed w/ either having no co-op (cause Dankus sucks at macro) or giving the German player a coop, cause they clearly could have handled a bunch of shit that the Germany made mistakes with.

[@TheBlackwolf5011]

@@ayathados6629 exactly. it should have a Germany co op instead of Spain. I feel like Spain ended up not doing much. not knocking them, they just ended up not being that important. I bet the game would have been way different if it had been two co ops, or no co ops.

[@krait5645]

Good content and was going good at the beginning, with the China war and Spanish civil war. Sadly to many mistakes and blunders from the Axis, a too long campaign in France resulting in no Africa campaign and the allies completely free to focus on a D-Day and Japan. Also one of the problem with dankus heavy tank is that they are maybe too strong. It’s Barbarossa after all, with on one side a German army with the experience and doctrine that work on France, and a Soviet army disorganized and underequiped, issues that was addressed during the war resulting in a soviet victory. So if Dankus is able to push and make great maneuvers in 1941, there is a problem. Russia would not be able to get almost a full row of doctrine, as those where developed during the war, and have a debuff to doctrine like France in the early game.

[@BetzeBert]

Completely correct

[@ramigiusz565]

I think perfect mod for this would be World Ablaze which is more balanced Axis vs Allies game, there as the soviets you must spend huge amounts of xp to reform your army or you will be obliterated (In my first playthrough as the Soviets I focused on Doctrines and well, i got steamrolled in 1941), which simulates status of Red Army perfectly. World Ablaze is more focused on historical Allies vs Axis.

[@GAMA830]

i think even if soviets were debuffed dankus stil would have won. axis were just so weak at the start of barb that if russia was nerfed the soviets at least still would have held the river against them rather than push

[@krait5645]

@@GAMA830 well yeah but they won’t have lost immediately, the axis would have pushed a bit further in the Soviet line but not at the doorstep of moscow

[@Ben-fk9ey]

Maybe a better format for team games is a best of series where both teams swap sides each game? That sort of seems more fair if there are some unbalanced aspects to the game. Only problem is that it could days and days to finish, so maybe book in for Friday/Saturday/Sunday 6 hours a game and if they don't finish by then get an independent board to determine who won?

[@DiscardPixel]

WAS FUN PLAYING, AMIGOS! CAN'T WAIT FOR THE NEXT ONE 👻

[@TommyKay]

GG PIXEL BOI

[@waleedkhalid7486]

Love that you guys are trying to build the esports scene for this game. I wish you the best!

[@AkiNoShinen]

Now i want bittersteel to play as Germany the save disaster at 28:00

[@GAMA830]

i appreciate the player warnings being cut out of the video, its about the game not the drama

[@youfeardabear762]

Danks trys to not play Russia the same exact way for 2 years strait challenge(impossible!!)(gone wrong😱)

[@qordar]

how did he play the same LOL?

[@tellurius4951]

For 2 years people still haven't found the way to counter him. It's their problem

[@watson993]

Tbh I would prefer to see every single player be a complete random nobody. Was interesting to watch tho, definitely enjoyed it.

[@strategystuff5080]

Thank you tommy for BEING the Hoi4 Competitive scene!

[@jamescashman1110]

You summed up Dankus quite well @ 3:50

[@Quincy_minT]

Planet funk chase the sun

[@Dasselbewiedaoben]

Freut mich zu hören dass der ginger nachwuchs rausballert. Stramm meister!

[@richmont9557]

Anyone else prefers the GG1 format? Like dont take me wrong this is great but that one was better

[@strike4730]

Man like Tommy with the darts music at the start!

[@chuckschultz3646]

Glad to hear the return of the brap trap at 22:13

[@MattttMan]

wishing dankus wasn't in this, there's a reason bo "banned" him

[@Morrow420]

agreed, fuck dankus

[@qordar]

because he won lol?

[@Morrow420]

@@qordar no. Dankus plays the same boring meta 5000x times over. In MP, in SP, in events, Dankus always does the same stupid fucking meta's, which ruin the fun for the rest of the game and the viewers who aren't dankus fans

[@qordar]

@@Morrow420 yes thats how you play hist games, you play to win, i know they didnt have fun because they lost

[@Morrow420]

@@qordar the point of the game is competitive fun, Dankus gets banned on other communities for good reason

[@dengist8172]

If USSR had 2 players it seems only fair that Germany gets 2 as well

[@perpetual_suffering1458]

Ussr is hard to micro because it has to manage the main front and finland alone. Germany can delegate the d-day defence to another player and focus solely on eastern front while also having help from romania/bulgaria/hungary

[@oligone9epic33]

when the san andreas mod is finished you should do a great game on it

[@gothia6515]

Had to giggle when Golden of all people said the Germany player is throwing. The overlord of the throw himself :D

[@wetplant1748]

I joined right before it started. Stayed till the end.

[@masculineman123]

After 1424525 years tommykay once again uploaded

[@Lucifer1907]

The Song at the beginning is Planet FUNK - Chase the Sun.

[@darijus498]

you're a legend my friend!

[@Effect_____]

Markonii fast with it 💯

[@oldanalytics3626]

"The supply System changes the game"..... Things, we already had a decade ago in Hearts of Iron 3! Brilliant...

[@solomonta1369]

I like how they always play between them and half of them are even that good no wonder why dankus looks so pro

[@TeleologicalConsistency]

With these winnings you'd be 1/3 of a way to getting a 5/5 gem in Diablo Immortal.

[@synthelione3714]

Dankus and bittersteel is one heck of a combo.

[@lolmenx4]

THE BRAP TRAP, i cant belive it , it happend. A claaaaaasic

[@boon5023]

I think maybe a good idea for another great game could maybe be a form of 'pick and choose' but in a funky kind of way. For example, there are x amount of players in a pool, and the first two to be chosen are the team captains. The team captains can then take turns choosing who they want on their team, OR can choose a country. So for example, If Grisha and 7D were captains, Grisha could choose Dankus while 7D chooses a nation like the UK. So if there are 16 players total, both teams take turn choosing either a player or nation. Obviously nation picking will need some restrictions or rules so 1 player doesnt just get USA, GER and USSR in their first 3 picks, but I think it could be a pretty balanced choice rather than the huge ez landslide random choice from a hat that caused this whipe (not to say it wasnt a bad game, just maybe onesided.) Because if the teams keep choosing 'the next best thing', then it will leave both teams with fairly equal teams. And with there being 3 super majors, there could possibly be 3 teams rather than 2. And for the choosing system, depending on the type of nation, (minor, major, super major) could depend on if that team then misses out on their pick for an extra turn or two, leaving them with less choices, and only being able to have whats left in the end if you understand what Im getting at. Just an idea. Ty for the huge content though. Ur the King of this community

[@somestuff7931]

the time has come... for the greatest content ever... back again

[@Faither011]

Amen to the lack of Grisha

[@FlowElectron]

Finally! I was waiting for this video

[@imran_yeyeje]

happy to be watch this tournament during live hope tommy can do it again

[@Julian-mh4jw]

3:27 "not even sigleplayers normies" i feel attacked and offended

[@daswasich1147]

I Don't even play this game, i hope that helps making you feel less casual :3

[@Qwerty-of4cy]

i knew that allies whould win from the start. The sad truth is that it wassnt balanced, Allies have a advantage in the mod itself and, imo had better players. Still the Axis played well. GG

[@qordar]

good idea, shit mod they shouldve chosen hfu or lw

[@paulfischer4586]

was a really interristing game, but i enjoyed the firsg gratis game Mode, as it had this change of who looks the strongest. ( first japan, then us, then Ussr and then italy suddenly Was a powerhouse)But also awesome event

[@patrickturk7810]

I was so depressed that I had to miss this because I had to work. I still woke up at 5AM (US PACIFIC) to watch the beggining though.

[@thehaus6998]

Tommy: OMG DANKUS MASSIVE PLAY HALF ARMY ROMANAIN!!!!!!!! Dankus: hey look, I killed a few tanks in the south, no worry

[@perpetual_suffering1458]

Lol i watched it live he had a massive pop off, he literally jumped out of his chair and screamed "FUCKING ESPORTS ALTA"

[@leonardoariewibowo1325]

lucifer kinda throwing this game ngl

[@DankusMemecus]

ESPORTS

[@redtob2119]

dank these nutz dankus

[@dengist8172]

well played man

[@ПростоЧеловек-д2ч]

Knew that axis lose just from knowing who plays russia

[@ninny65]

"The Empire's being calling Mama Mia"

[@gabrielbernier1047]

Love the multiplayer content, really feel like you are going somewhere, keep it up 👍👌💪

[@derekjones6984]

Definitely think the Allies were overpowered. USA doesn’t need Mexico or Brazil too. Seemed like Germany had no chance to me. Unless Germany just played it wrong

[@Morrow420]

yeah it was unbalanced as hell

[@qordar]

mod is purely allies sided

[@derekjones6984]

Great job all! Short game but exactly what we want to watch some HOI4 ESports

[@michaelb299]

Could you make one MP game where people are randomly assigned country but no alliance ? And have to choose in the focus tree between the Allies, Axe or Comintern factions

[@Alexander122311]

Can I just say, that I love content like this. Please do keep making stuff like this.

[@yorampaar2011]

I liked this, but I loved the first Great Game. I think that should be the format for the next one as well, way more unexpected things happening because of tactics and timing of wars

[@paint1005]

I get that this mod is superior for competetive multiplayer. But when does it start to be so different from the base game that the viewers cant relate to some things anymore?

[@mazzaker18]

loved this vid. great job markoni and tommy

[@gut8433]

NARUTO OST IN THE BACKGROUND IS PERFECT

[@monchyd6519]

Norbert still goated, nearly pulled off another insane stunt

[@lol_histicall4289]

This is so good I can’t wait to see more of these Esports type games I expected you to play maybe there can be someone else commentating next time

[@didiwever834]

Ich habe gerade richtig üblen Bier schiss.

[@kamlincox5909]

I know what I am about to say is just work for Tommy but I would love to watch a week of this. Same concept, same execution, draw the teams new each day, best of 7.

[@arisvibe6298]

So sad I missed this. Great video Tommy and markoni

[@aidenstammler4618]

AY-YO GOLDEN GIVIN THE COMMENTARRY!

[@memer3548]

If France was competent:

[@miroto9446]

This tournament felt soo similar to history, germans beaten france, then norway, then pushed russia. Got frozen and counterpushed by russia, and then americans land in normandy.

[@matthewwp326]

I think that the next version of this with By Blood Alone will definitely be an axis win.

[@125discipline2]

i think some spy action should be forbidden before hitting certain level of world tension.

[@Colenin.]

I learned of the GG2 just like 2 or 3 days ago

[@PZi23]

what is the title of that sick beat that drops right from the start of the video?

[@victorhugofeitosa2908]

Love your channel bro! Just found you! You afrikaans? Also... baby boy or girl? congrats bro! keep the videos coming!

[@therushingman]

Well done! Looking forward to the next!

[@hutlazzz]

very nice !! poor romania lol It really make the game esport side different with that prize, hope to see more !