5 Ancient Treasures Still Waiting to be Found

[@a_l_b__a607]

I wonder if any treasures, believed to be undiscovered, are sat in private collections after being bought off illegal looters.

[@kittenmeister7858]

The simple answer is no. The worth of art is lost to them if others don't know they have it. Even a simple thing as saying a wrong word to someone may result in them being found out. Humans can't affectively keep secrets.

[@a_l_b__a607]

@@kittenmeister7858 You’re right, when it comes to grander treasures, however, I am thinking about artefacts that aren’t written about, such as Roman jewellery. Wasn’t a piece of the floor mosaic from Nero’s Nemi ships used as a coffee table in a NYC apartment, going undocumented for about 60 years?

[@coldmountain1997]

@@a_l_b__a607 you’re right, I’d like to think this isn’t common but greed is greed 😔

[@j.b.snicket1245]

I'd guess we probably only have 50% or less of the ancient treasures that have been rediscovered documented. The rest were illegally sold to rich people to look at.

[@a_l_b__a607]

@@j.b.snicket1245 50% or more artefacts being sold illegally doesn’t sound too accurate a statistic to me. That being said, the illegal trade of historical artefacts is a great shame.

[@churro_gonzalez]

It used to be 6 Treasures still waiting to be discovered until I stumbled upon this awesome channel. Keep it up!

[@kwd3109]

Ah, Well said Eduardo!

[@tuscanollie1242]

True lol

[@weldorn]

smooth

[@joshmatthewcereghino]

Nailed it bro! (flips breaker, shuts off internet for the night)

[@thechacokid1599]

That’s adorable, Eduardo!

[@all4one5]

I am a student of Art History with a penchant for Greco-Romano architecture. I am also paralyzed from the waist down. Your videos are helping me to see the magnificent constructions of these empires and peoples that I do so enjoy. I am fraught with despair that I may never step foot in their hallowed halls, but am uplifted by the ability to view these spectacles on your page. Thank you very much.

[@toldinstone]

I'm very glad that you enjoy my videos. For what it's worth, almost all the important sites and museums in Italy are now wheelchair accessible. I hope that you'll have a chance to visit them soon.

[@all4one5]

@@toldinstone That is good to hear, I am sure nothing can compare to the in-person experience. Do you give any lectures? I would like to sit in on one virtually, if at all possible. I will also be reading your publication after I finish the writings of Herodotus.

[@toldinstone]

@@all4one5 That's very kind of you. Unfortunately, I haven't lectured since I stopped teaching a few years ago.

[@mrmarmellow555]

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[@Doood692]

I know a guy who has regained movement after an accident (severed spine) by going on an all fruit diet and taking regenerative herbs. He is a student of Robert Morse N.D.

[@lablackzed]

The tomb of Alexander or Cleopatra would be a find of the century.

[@Critterfurr]

I know where it is

[@theguywhoasked5591]

@@Critterfurr Where

[@genghisconn7770]

Yea its called St Mark's Basilica

[@marinbilic2893]

@@genghisconn7770 what do you mean

[@malfattio2894]

@@ziggy2shus624 That's the grave of a different Cleopatra, the famous one's mother

[@patstokes7040]

The thrill of discovery is with me every time I read or hear something new about history. I never get tired of it and even after living 73 years I wish I knew more. That is why your channel is so apricated.

[@neoclassic09]

there's also the sarcophagus of Menkaure, which in the 1800s sunk on its way to London, I believe. It's somewhere in the Mediterranean floor in a wreck.

[@prkp7248]

Egyptian made them out of wood, after 200 years in ocean it could be just some small scraps of gold.

[@gino7lord]

@@prkp7248 if i recall the sarcophagus of Menkaure is made of Basalt and thus would be still in good shape even after 200 years.

[@prkp7248]

@@gino7lord oh, if that's the case it is still out there somewhere, but finding this shipwreck is nearly impossible, as we don't know even where to start that process. Spanish Galeon in Mexican Gulf are rarely found after decades of searching for them even if we somewhat know where they sunk and people try to find them because they were filled with gold, and even if that's the case, 90% of those expedition ends with negative income.

[@dzonikg]

@@prkp7248 Whell Titanic was found 70 years after wrecking and it was huge metal ship

[@prkp7248]

@@dzonikg we somewhat known where he was, thats why only couple of days were need to find it on the sea floor. You should also knowns that titanic is in bad condition and it's deteriorating because of exposure to iron-eating bacteria. "In 2006, it was estimated that within 50 years the hull and structure of Titanic would eventually collapse entirely, leaving only the more durable interior fittings of the ship intermingled with a pile of rust on the sea floor.". I urge you to read about life of Mel Fisher and his crew which found Nuestra Majora de Otocha, Spanish galeon full of silver, gold and emeralds. After only days of this finding, three people from his crew were killed. After years of looking for and legal battles, he was really the only person that didn't lose on that discovery, and we talk about ship full of gold, emeralds etc.

[@awogbob]

I love that your content covers interesting topics while remaining factual and with integrity. There is so many pop history sources that are just garbage.

[@jeffcampbell1555]

Great episode! Any treasure that left a telltale rumor has likely been dug up, but private hordes could still exist in the ancient remains under cities like Alexandria, Rome, Naples, London and Istanbul. Remember when builders found a porphyry sarcophagus in Alexandria? People thought it might be Alexander the Great, and although it contained mostly sewage, it was terribly exciting.

[@vaevictis3612]

Of all ancient wrecks some of the most interesting are on the bottom of the Black Sea. That's because of the sea's unique properties - the deeps in it are anoxic, that is - they have water without oxygen, meaning that the bottom of the sea is practically devoid of life, including bacteria and microorganisms. This means that anything that went down in these waters remains essentially intact. The area only came to attention in the 2000s, starting from discovery of essentially intact Byzantine wreck east of Sinop, with the intact mast and likely all of the cargo in place. Since that more than 40 wrecks have been found, although none has been explored. The potential is really immense - stuff like wooden crafts and maybe even cloth and other fragile goods could be preserved there with little damage. One can only think just how much historical treasure lies in those waters, yet to be discovered.

[@scj8863]

Anaerobic, not anorexic

[@screamingalgae9380]

The OP is correct--water can be anoxic, organisms can be anaerobic.

[@PhilKelley]

He said, "anoxic", which means: A condition in which the aquatic (water) environment does not contain dissolved oxygen (DO), Bacteria may be anaerobic, but water is anoxic.

[@julesl6910]

@@scj8863 Anaerobic refers to metabolism, anoxic refers to the state of an environment

[@Rainberna]

The Moskva recently joined them, and is waiting for archeological researchers

[@bethwilliams4903]

When I was in grad school (late 90’s) the hottest, most sought after expertise in archaeology and art history, combined, was underwater excavation. Getting one’s certification to do the excavation required being able to be trusted with not only scuba gear but to survive the elements, retrieve information, withstand the locations for the whole of the excavation and not endanger others - it wasn’t just a situation where you jumped off a boat and went looking for dull metal objects poking from the sea floor - it was wildly popular as an adjunct for the archaeology students. And yes, that IS where they will find new sculptures as the Romans hauled off as many bronze artifacts as they could get their hands on! Marble copies are incredibly inadequate by comparison.

[@BongJabbar]

For some reason I was never that enthusiastic about history until now (I'm 29). Your channel couldn't have come at a better time. Amazing content!

[@macscotsman51]

Your rating system is a hoot! Well done 👍👍👍. More like this would be welcome.

[@edwardhausfeld]

Ditto! Love the rating system! As a former Latin teacher and fan of archaeology, I love this site! The commentary is, as usual, hysterical: °The Visigoths, after all, loved their loot as much as the next barbarian°

[@paulgorman3001]

@@edwardhausfeld hilarious and factual we couldn't ask for better 😂

[@sleepyhead8681]

So true make this A series!

[@gemino4910]

Content like this surrounding lost treasures, or disappeared buildings etc is very unique to your channel, no other channel offers these kinds of videos. Please continue with similar videos!

[@josiahsiska]

Never have I tapped a recommend so fast. Love your videos!

[@prakkari]

Wouldn’t it be logical to assume that some of those statues found on the seabed were simply thrown overboard to save troubled ships in storms. If just a single statue big or smaller is found one can’t automatically assume that this is a site of a shipwreck. If a heavy cargo gets dislocated in bad weather, throwing some of it overboard would probably the only way to save the ship and crew.

[@tpl608]

That is why harbors were built, to protect from storms

[@prakkari]

@@tpl608 what?? How does that comment relate to anything I said?

[@tpl608]

@@prakkari these are mostly located in harbors or right before.

[@prakkari]

@@tpl608 Your comment still doesn’t make any sense at all in relation to my first comment. Anyway, this treasure was found near the coast of Antikythera, nowhere close to the harbour in Potamos bay. My comment was about the heavy cargo shifting in bad weather and they could have dumped it to make it home. You might notice that there is no sign of a wreck. The comment stating that this is why harbours were built to protect from storms is so out there that one is lost for words.

[@MyBinaryLife]

how would they 'throw it over' if its that heavy? its not like they could lift it, and the cranes they used to load and unload are at the dock, not on the ship.

[@chungusdisciple9917]

keep killin it Dr. Garrett Ryan

[@logans6619]

hell yeah chungus disciple

[@Goblin_Wizard]

i see toldinstone, i click and get stoned and told.

[@bonsai5753]

This KZbin channel is better than any history channel show. This is amazing wow

[@nondescript2892]

a lot of people will undoubtably mention the tomb of Alexander and the probability of finding that(less than one Indiana I fear...)...but for those who want to experience the nearness of the great man I propose visiting the tomb of Alexander's father in Macedonia...it is a fabulous experience and the presentation of the tomb( also one for Alexander's son) and the magnificent artifacts is first rate...I was very impressed!

[@Catharax]

Bro. You are such a legend. I always come to your channel and watch your videos before bed when I'm having especially rough days. It means I have to avoid binging all your videos at once lol but still thank you man.

[@eeur4201]

Your narration is so pleasant to listen to 🥺❣️

[@marktaft]

I just received the book. Looking forward to reading and reviewing!

[@Jjmmll]

Seeing your videos in my sub box always make my day!

[@michaelhoffmann2891]

Alaric's treasure has "Hoard of the Nibelung" written all over it. Meaning, it sounds more like a meme of Germanic folklore than any real event. "Dam river, dump treasure, kill slaves, wait for valkyries going hoyotohohoyotoho". Repeat wherever some major tribe hung about to bury chiefs or similar. 😆

[@sugipixu2230]

"Dam river, dump treasure, kill slaves" is exactly what the dacian king Decebal did to hide his treasure from the roman emperor Trajan in 106 AD. However, the location was betrayed by one of the king's nobleman. A real event

[@michaelhoffmann2891]

@@sugipixu2230 That's a good point! Did that story become the archetype?

[@jon-paulfilkins7820]

@@sugipixu2230 See also allegedly one of the Mongol Khans, for the same method. It is reading like a literary trope.

[@bezahltersystemtroll5055]

1. Dam river 2. Dump treasure 3. Kill slaves 4. ???????? 5. Profit

[@michaelhoffmann2891]

@@bezahltersystemtroll5055 Yeah, numbers 4 and 5 somehow didn't work for Genghis Khan. 😆For his heirs it was more like: 4. Bury Leader 5. Continue Brutal Conquest 6. Profit 7. Fall Apart

[@jakej2680]

I like to believe that you are a long lost twin of Mark Felton, separated at birth and moved to America, where you became an ancient historian instead of a WW2 historian.

[@adamm3611]

Thank you for covering the menorah in this. Always captivated my mind!

[@avantapollo]

Subscribed. These are great!

[@Zimisce85]

I would add two more: 1) Alexander tomb: not the original building, but with some excavations we should be able to locate the foundations and at least the place where the sarcophagus used to be. 2) the "Adulitana" inscribed stela. Not a masterpiece of art, but an important testimony of both the Ptolemaic rule and later of the birth of Axum.

[@paoloviti6156]

I wouldn't be too surprised if the sarcophagus of Alexander the great stills exists somewhere and the whereabouts of the mausoleum, obviously remains, will be found underneath the modern city...

[@Shcreamingreen]

I would also add the Palladion and the Golden Woman of Siberia (presumably Juno), however both very unlikely to be found.

[@Zimisce85]

@@paoloviti6156 I would be very surprised but I would be delighted.

[@Zimisce85]

@@Shcreamingreen then I raise with Porsenna's tomb... It looks to me that it should be at least one level above the other things you mentioned.

[@AMR_k400]

The adulatian inscription would be a huge find probably the find of the century it doesnt just mention the ptolmaic influence in the region but right next to it sat another inscriptions by an axumite king which was also written in greek cosmos assumed it was a ptolmaic inscriptions and copied it thats how we know it existed it could be the key to the regions entire history why axumite oblisks features both axumite and greek architecture , where the major cities were,abouts the empires that reigned before them (d'mat,saba,..) and if there was alarge greek settlement in the horn of africa or not

[@brianfretwell3886]

That made me think of the Morecombe and Wise dialogue:- "Have you got the scrolls?" "No. I always walk like this!"

[@JiveTrkey]

All of your videos are concise and dense with information. Great stuff. Happy to have stumbled upon your channel.

[@brianvogel1337]

The unexcavated rooms of the villa of the papyri in Herculaneum-the supposed Latin library? I recall there is a current or at least recent dig?

[@bezahltersystemtroll5055]

unfortunately not, although that should be number one on this list 😔

[@lizjoyce4846]

What a wildly enjoyable video! Love your channel it is terrific. Thank you.

[@samkrauss2412]

Dr. G this was sick! Thanks so much for sharing your knowledge with us my dude! So glad your channel exists and that it’s blowing up lately. It’s my fav KZbin haunt.

[@rexmundi3108]

Treasures underwater: when the Romans conquered an area in Europe they sold shares on local lakes to people who would go in and drain them or in some other way scour the bottom. I have to think that they missed a few. Alaric's Treasure: I (just a personal notion not supported by anything) believe the story that he was buried under the river partly because of the way water seems to have been thought of as a place of reverence and making offerings, in short, sacred, although I also wonder about the significance of running water: many European societies believed that running water was as barrier to spirits. Would they have thought this burial would impede his spirit? Or did they believe the spirit had left and had no connection to the body? The thinking of the people of the time needs to be understood. As far as the likelihood of treasure being interred with him, I think there was enough loot to provide the share worthy of such a burial.

[@wirelessbluestone5983]

The issue is that the story has a lot of parallels in Germanic Heroic literature and other societies. One example I can think of is the tomb of Genghis Khan in Mongolia

[@saosaosson6139]

@@wirelessbluestone5983 Genghis Khan was buried much much later. Nearly 1000 years later

[@saosaosson6139]

@@wirelessbluestone5983 if anything Genghis Khan took his inspiration from Germanic legends

[@jmanj3917]

I like that you leave the images on screen for a while. There are a lot of details in them.

[@rosselliot8971]

Lots of fun, and informative. Indy would be proud.

[@sherylcrowe3255]

Another excellent video. Thank you for your continued hard work.

[@lennox285679]

i’d love to see a video on lost treasures that were actually found

[@pelikojootti2862]

Thanks for the good videos! Happy to have found your channel

[@claudiocucinotta2097]

Great video! I would add also Genseric's lost ship, fully loaded with statues from Rome' Capitolium! It should be somewhere down there!

[@captiannemo1587]

The thing with Alaric is, frankly, rivers do move over time.

[@cvonn6965]

That was the best Toldinstone video I have seen yet, and you have made some good videos. I am a salvage diver and dream of finding Roman Treasure or any teasure would be nice. Keep up the good work!

[@yawg691]

I know this comment is years old, but I wish you lots of luck in finding ancient treasure! I can only imagine how amazing that would feel.

[@rooneye]

A tomb under a river sounds epic! Never thought about that before. Such a brilliant place for a tomb man. So cool.

[@Windrake101]

And one doomed to ultimately get flooded out. Water finds a way. Always.

[@2.7petabytes]

I’m so glad I came across your channel! Such intriguing topics and history! You definitely make history fun and interesting! Thanks!

[@bluenoteone]

The menorah stick probably melted when. Josephus speaks about how the fire was so intense that the gold was flowing across the floor

[@wirelessbluestone5983]

Maybe but that doesn’t explain how it was included in the arch of Titus

[@jamiehackl1231]

This is a great channel. Your tone is great.

[@SoulEternalPeaceWarrior77]

Love your work TIS! Do you think we'll ever find a masterpiece like "Augustus of Prima Porta" in our lifetime? Talk about a flawless treasure right there.

[@toldinstone]

Much appreciated! I certainly hope so...

[@sirchromiumdowns2015]

Those final sculptures are so beautiful. I hope they discover more of them.

[@fastertrackcreative]

Interesting, thank you. Binging some of your videos

[@dj-kq4fz]

Thanks Dr. Ryan! I always enjoy your perspective. I award this video 3 Fat Gladiators. Dave J

[@Tyswave]

Great video like always!!! Love your voice and format ❤️

[@rickb3078]

Awesome video!

[@DimBeam1]

The channel is the real lost treasure. Thank you.

[@Gleekey1]

Loved your book. Awesome videos.

[@jonassss10]

Thx for awesome content!

[@X_TheHuntsman_X]

This was great! I've never heard of any of these treasures before!

[@416dl]

When I think of Lost treasure from that era and region my thoughts turn to the bottom of the Black Sea where even organic treasures might still be preserved in the anaerobic bottom water which is preventing decay...cheers

[@wilsontheconqueror8101]

I hope u are right about the possibility of other statues possibly being recovered! The few found are absolute masterpieces! Well done! Very interesting!

[@trixVK]

At first, I thought he said they found his "arm and nuts"...he actually said "arm in nets". I'm thinking it was because my mind wandered and I glanced at the statue. 🤭

[@ModernandVintageWatches]

love your channel, very informative

[@airingcupboard]

Great fun and very informative.

[@ziggy2shus624]

I was going to mention the search for one of the ships carrying Lord Elgin's marble collection from Greece that sank. Looking on the web i found that most of the marbles on the sunken ship were recovered by Lord Elgin. This was in 1802. So, how did the people in that era recover those marbles from a sunken ship? The remains of the ship are now being explored for other artifacts.

[@PoleToPoleTravel]

First 30 seconds is like yes, yup, yup, *definitely going to watch this*

[@danielintheantipodes6741]

Thank you for the video!

[@malachitucker3234]

Your videos are awesome!

[@ChimpFromSpace]

The horse sculpture is amazing...

[@Slimanb]

I was wondering if you could make a video about magic and sorcery in ancient rome? if you have any information on it of course . Great content btw 👏👏

[@toldinstone]

Much appreciated! You might enjoy my old video "Four ways to summon a demon in Roman Egypt." Chapter 19 in my book is also all about magic.

[@konstantinavalentina3850]

I suspect the Alaric's Treasure myth to be, just a myth derived from someone trying to pawn off the story of Gilgamesh's tomb with attribution to Alaric. I think similar is also described for Attila, and also Ghengis Khan. It's a popular theme for mythical burial tales. I wonder which stories stole from which other, which are entirely false, and which might even be true? :)

[@Joanna-il2ur]

Well Attila postdates Alaric and Ghengis is 800 years after him, the answer would be Alaric, except there’s probably a lost myth that long predates him.

[@goldenineke]

Love your videos. You make history fun!

[@felixmaximus366]

I love your content! I think you are an awesome historian!

[@lorddonnel]

You are great. Keep it going!

[@genghisconn7770]

Someone needs to take one for the team and Andy Dufresne their way under Saint Peter's Basilica to find Honorius' tomb

[@victoriaamat5368]

This video poses a moral dilemma: as good as it was it deserves a like and the views of many others, however I don't want to set competitors in the pursuit of these treasures. Will due recognition supersede my greed? Perhaps we'll never know

[@free_at_last8141]

I enjoyed your book. Keep it up.

[@identifiesas65.wheresmyche95]

10:22 - That kid found a pretty cool way of flipping off the future!

[@michaelinminn]

10:32 Jockey on a Race Horse. Looks exactly like the boy on a dolphin depicted in the film by the same name. The same film where Sophia Loren first got to display her command of English - and other attributes. Another notable from the movie is that they had to block all the scenes with Alan Ladd to make him seem taller than Miss Loren. (She was a full inch taller.)

[@straightfrom]

Your book just arrived at my house!!!

[@groovechampion1462]

5:24 those headphones would go nice with a gold walkman.

[@dankestcabin7152]

god i love his voice acting skills so much! i wish there was an audio book version of Naked Statues i could buy

[@toldinstone]

The audio book will be published on October 26! Unfortunately, someone else is narrating...

[@Gorvinhagen]

I firmly believe that the "Indiana Jones Scale of Findability of Lost Treasures" should be a scientifically recognized measuring tool.

[@tamiam484]

I love the Indiana system

[@MonsieurChapeau]

I am reminded of the fabulous Etruscan bronze sculpture Chimera of Arezzo in the Museo Archeologico in Florence and that it is a miracle it survived

[@FieldCommandNapoleonOfficial]

Keep doing clever almost clickbaity thumbnails because the content is actually accurate to the thumbnail. I just want you to get more attention coz that's what you deserve. Watch Veritasium's video about clickbait and use those stratigies!! Great content as usual :)

[@bongdonkey]

Great channel. Interesting content as well.

[@walrusmcgee]

It’s likely that they lied about the location of Alaric’s burial and did it in a different location so the treasure would never be found

[@CraigMcDonald1234]

OK, this is gonna take a moment to describe but it'll be worth it. Years ago in a park I found a hand of stone. It was a hand that came from a statue that was vandalized. Why couldn't I 3D scan that hand into a database of sculptures that were missing that hand and mate them? OK, here goes...... I believe that all over Italy people have pieces of famous sculptures in their backyard gardens; deposited over thousands of years. I say, scan them in and mate them up.

[@tuscanollie1242]

You’re sooooo close to 100k!!!

[@jgagnier]

I'd argue that not only is the thrill of discovery *still* possible in the age of satellite imagery and ground-penetrating lidar, but that it's *increasingly* possible. Let us rejoice :)

[@jillatherton4660]

The meat of your videos is nourishing, but the humour and presentation style make a delicious accompaniment.

[@Shamu2000]

Funny enough I was thinking about exactly this the other day, and now I have this excellent video, great job !

[@Phawcet]

Good video! Thanks for teaching many people about what might be forgotten stories! Also, its is in my opinion that Carthage must be destroyed.

[@Chrischi3TutorialLPs]

I would live to travel back into these past times and see cities like Rome or Athens in their full glory.

[@obesewan6632]

Rome was... pretty much full of shit in their full glory. You will vomit just by how horrible the city smell.

[@tommiteikari3378]

Amazing☝️☝️

[@madiantin]

The Indiana Scale. =D. "No Freaking Way". Hahaha =D Such a fun video.

[@perceivedvelocity9914]

Sesame Street: "Do you know why they call me the Count? Because I love to count! Ah-hah-hah!”. Told in Stone: One Indiana, two Indiana, three Indiana! Ah-hah-hah!

[@irenebecker4815]

Delightful!

[@Angelfeather100]

Finally, your much awaited book arrived and I am devouring it with such a pleasure! While reading, a question dawned on me. We refer to certain points in history with the date and BC or AD. But how were the dates counted/referred to in those times? E.g. the date for the Battle of Actium, for us, is 2 September 31 BC. What was called this date by those who lived then? I suppose also that this date was referred to in a different manner, according to where they lived (country, geographical area, etc). I am mostly curious about the way they counted (and/or denominated?) the years.

[@toldinstone]

Chapter 8 will answer all your questions about dates!

[@Angelfeather100]

@@toldinstone Unvelievable. I had two questions up to now and I am surprised and thrilled that your book provides the answers. Your book is not only easy and very pleasant to read, but seems also to be almost exhaustive. For me, it is like having a treat, I enjoy it, while being sad that I will finish it. So I say « almost », with the hope of a sequel addressing more interesting facts. Thank you for your answer!

[@faithlesshound5621]

My guess is that the 2nd of September would have been "the fourth day before the Nones of September" (not the third, because the Romans used "inclusive reckoning") or "a.d. iv Non. Sept." 31 BC would have been expressed by naming the Roman Consuls of that year, though it was POSSIBLE to count the years since the foundation of Rome in 753 BC: thus 723 Ab Urbe Condita (A.U.C.). Inclusive reckoning and avoiding the concept of zero may explain the Romans' failure to get very far in arithmetic.

[@Joanna-il2ur]

Since Actium is off Asia Minor, it’s more likely that Greek dating would have been used. Trouble, there are eight different dating systems. Months have different names, and start and end in different points. Where some have the same name, they are sometimes in a different order! Then again, Egypt had its own dating system...

[@Angelfeather100]

@@Joanna-il2ur Yes, most certainly they used local, Greek dating since Actium is in Greece -western Greece to be exact, actually closer to Italy and Rome than to Anatolia (Asia Minor)… 😅 In his book, Dr. Ryan explains how dates were called in antiquity. Very interesting and entertaining book.

[@bornin54]

I give this two Indianas - "in the spirit of generosity".

[@12...]

perhaps there is no shipwreck at all: maybe the ship was overburdened with all the loot it was carrying, or damaged in a storm, battle, etc. some heavy objects might've been thrown overboard to prevent it from sinking (or perhaps fell off, accidentally)

[@jppaul5285]

Is your book also an audiobook by any chance. Such great content.

[@toldinstone]

Very glad to hear it! The audiobook comes out on October 26.

[@Jenult]

You should narrate your book for an Audible version, I think it'd go over really well. Your voice is very calm and easy to follow along with.

[@toldinstone]

Much appreciated. The Audible version just came out - but unfortunately, I was not allowed to narrate (my publisher sold the rights).

[@Jenult]

@@toldinstone yeah? Well regardless i'm gonna go buy it right now! I'm stoked! I'm a UPS delivery driver and work a lot, Audible keeps me alive, man. I'm legit excited for this

[@Jenult]

Still cant find it, let them know cause I really want to listen to this. I get no results on Audible with the title or your name

[@toldinstone]

@@Jenult I'm sorry to hear that. If you're not in the US, it won't be available until next week (the audiobook company is still working on licensing the international rights).

[@Jenult]

@@toldinstone Good to know, thank you for the quick response. I'll keep checking