5 arm drags for Bjj and wrestling

[@XBlades909]

Mr. Higashi thank you very much for these tips and techniques, my stand game has drastically improved in these past months of BJJ. Keep up the good work for the community that is martial arts and staying healthy! I appreciate you!

[@Beaunage]

Great video Shintaro, as always.

[@braedenmoses]

Loved this, great stuff to try right off the bat!

[@hb-dc3170]

That wrist release is real cool man

[@chrisboon4526]

That was a great video, thank you Sir.

[@유도바보회]

Great tips👍👍👍

[@chadsr3455]

Thanks for the content 👍

[@CombatVault]

Nice tips. I was arm dragging but letting go of my opponent so they were getting out. Seeing you maintain that high arm control made a lot of sense. Also very interesting using opponents own wrist control against them for your arm drag.

[@LP_APUgamer]

Judo vs BJJ sparring/rolling, please!

[@tarasbulba77]

I'm coming from Judo now doing BJJ and my experience was that techniques that have worked for me great in Judo don't work against BJJ ( O Goshi, Harai Goshi...) so I had to adapt techniques I was never doing in sport Judo ( Sumi Gaeshi, Tomoe Nage...).

[@blazingtatsumaki]

He uploaded his rolling video with Brian glick earlier

[@williamharding1319]

@@tarasbulba77 I use sumi gaeshi, hikikiomi gaeshi, yoko sumi gaeshi with a lot of success in BJJ. Aside from those and ashi waza everything gets me into deep trouble!

[@tarasbulba77]

@@williamharding1319 true, Sumi worked best for me against BJJ stance 👍

[@kodokanshiai2143]

@@williamharding1319 why lol

[@eligast3901]

Love how it works for wrestling and bjj

[@Lion718]

Good stuff!

[@Docinaplane]

Thanks, great video! I like your idea to arm drag high on the arm because the biggest issue I have with the arm drag is my opponent spins out by turning clockwise. The other thing is, it appears to me that you drag yourself into the opponent, where I tend to pull them across me. Perhaps your way is better? Also, as a striker, I enter the arm drag as you do for the shoulder post, but it's a punch attack. I also use the arm drag when in bottom position grappling.

[@danadane2501]

Excellent technique bro .

[@juans6984]

Defenetley trying this tonight .

[@MP-db9sw]

Thank you!

[@Bruhne]

Love it!

[@1badgt4]

01:48 That's a danzan ryu ju-jitu self defense move! Woot

[@mahdiaziznia974]

Very useful for me

[@gingercore69]

Great video! What about standing armlocks? When i started bjj most of my grappling experience came from bujinkan and karate, and since i couldnt land the takedowns the instructor taught me i started using ninjutsu ones... Many of wich are basically standing armlocks plus a leg sweep

[@s23900]

The problem with standing arm / wrist locks is that the other person still has a lot of mobility, and so prevention and escapes are much easier. Just getting into position to apply one is pretty difficult, even on someone who is NOT trained. Once you have grounded your opponent, wrist locks are much more effective, although the vast majority of BJJ practitioners favor arm locks. I have only ever been caught with a wrist lock when I was already in a compromised position on the ground. There are videos on the internet of aikido practitioners trying to utilize the kind of standing wrist locks you are referring to against BJJ practitioners or other grapplers - doesn't work out very well and they almost never even get into position to apply a technique. I have never seen ninjutsu in person, but based on the videos I've seen, it also looks relatively ineffective.

[@gingercore69]

@@s23900 not wristlocks, armlocks... Thy are in judo too... Waki gatame, udegarami and udehineri are 3 of the ones i used, but in ninjutsu udegarami is called onikudaki and udehineri is sometimes called musodori... I used them against bjj practitioners in bjj practice because i couldnt pull off the takedowns that the instructor taught me against the other practitioners... I also used sumo style kotenage(similar to a wrestling whizer throw) and many of those start from an armdrag/pull so... Its even related to the topic of this video... However, i admit that wristlocks while standing are almost impossible to pull off.. the only times ive done them was when i already had control of the arm some other way(i was trying an armlock/armbar and they were resisting so i switched to a wristlock because its harder to resist), or as a defense against someone grabing my wrist... Wich, doesnt happen too often... I ended up leaving bjj for its price... It was too expensive for me to keep training... But i really liked it alot... I hope i can get back to practice it one day...

[@gingercore69]

@@s23900 also my favorite combo is pull their arm and get into a wakigatame, twist arround to take them out of balance, chsnge grip into onikudaki, twist in the other direction and from that grip do an "osoto gari" but not as hard as you nornally need, its more like plscing the leg behind theirs as s pivot... You have to let their arm go before they fall... Because if whst ive been told is true, that could really fuck them up if you go to the ground with them like that(i wont be testing it anyway) but as a way to take someone down, its a cool one... And its technically allowed in bjj, but i think its not in judo...(i might be wrong about it) Ive also used that one in sanda sparring, sgainst a guy much bigger than me(but less experienced)

[@aznkane87]

The problem with standing armlocks are they are a lot harder to train with safely and are pretty much guaranteed to cause serious injury in competition if allowed. Which is why they finally banned it in Judo. Using jointlocks on the ground involve gaining control of the person so you can slowly and more gently apply pressure in a manner where someone has time to recognize the danger and tap so people don't end up seriously hurt. But with standing jointlocks, there isn't that control over the opponent's body meaning the technique relies on quick and decisive completion (and often combined with a takedown) to be successful, but that obviously would result in the logical conclusion of the technique-an actual break or at least serious hyperextension. It's a recipe for disaster to use in training in bjj because if you have a situation where the other person doesn't recognize or respect the danger of it, you basically end up with it not working because you're not willing to actually apply the break or seriously injuring a training partner. Honestly, if someone I was training with start applying waki-gatame on me in sparring without an understanding that would be allowed in sparring, I would seriously be fucking pissed off.

[@s23900]

@@gingercore69 You must be pretty high level and extremely quick to be able to pull all of that off before your training partner is able to release their grip and retract the arm.. Either you were just drilling these movements and not actually sparring, or your training partner is reacting in a way that even someone without training is unlikely to react - that is, death gripping your lapel with an extended arm no matter what you do. I have never seen anything close to what you are describing, which, just to clarify, is a 'waki gatame' into an 'oni kudaki' (similar to americana/keylock from standing), and then an 'osoto gari' (outside leg reap).. feel free to post a video of your sparring that shows you actually executing this though. I'd love to see that.

[@TSM260]

Arm drags are so good for law enforcement, especially since the arm is the first thing you get a hold of on arrest. Great counter when someone pulls away from you. Get behind him,get control,its over.

[@hbaltosax]

Absolutely, something a lot of people overlook is that from a law enforcement situation, most people are trying to get away from you. They don’t want to grapple with you they want to break contact and run, they will twist and pull away in ways that a competitor or grappler won’t. Many of them are also under the influence of narcotics and extremely sweaty and do not feel pain from pressure points, strikes, or dislocated joints. Gaining mechanical control over their body is key.

[@user-bj8mm4lv6b]

The 2nd one reminds me of a seibukan jujutsu technique

[@jimmypedro5741]

Are arm drags legal in judo competition? Can't find any straight answers on the interwebs

[@williamharding1319]

I used to arm drag to the back often in ranieri with a lot of success. Once I was there I would either throw with ura age (gently!) or pull uki down until they sat on my knee and then drag them backwards (I never knew what this was called). They always seemed irritated by it, like an issue of etiquette existed. I'm a green belt and they're mostly upper belts. Is it considered a taboo move?

[@nickmonadi]

I do the same thing because of my wrestling background. I’m a green belt too I wonder the same thing lol.

[@williamharding1319]

@@nickmonadi I'd love to know the answer. Once, I asked a very seasoned black belt and former TKD instructor what he thought. All he said was "generally I pick them up and then put them back down on their feet" Seems like a gentleman's ippon.

[@nickmonadi]

@@williamharding1319 yeah i dont slam anyone. I just hip bump them to take the legs out and i go down smoothly with them. I honestly think it’s a good move it’s just that it’s not a common move in judo. Like hip throws are good moves but you don’t see them super often in wrestling

[@honigdachs.]

01:31 @karate people, that's what your uchi uke "block" is for. Also, how do you strip your opponent's lapel grip? Again that's your uchi uke which in turn again initiates your arm drag. If you wanna understand the point of those countless uchi uke movements, study arm drags.

[@KidneyBicep]

Hi Shintaro, could you do a guide on how to progress the takedown once you have a tight arm drag-> grip? I usually try ura nage but this only works once or twice until they begin to counter by interlocking our legs or squatting down. Any thoughts?

[@lanemir_sindjelic]

this is of similar quality like teachmegrappling but for a gi

[@joesphruggiero3707]

Dope

[@thewayofbiutze3899]

Thank you.

[@eliotquintana9802]

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[@danielsullivan8137]

Great, but should be called 5 arm drag setups.

[@user-ux3rt7ud2x]

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[@avenuex3731]

I’m just going to say it, you need to go train with a serious aikijutsu group. Not to start controversy. I won’t reply. But this kind of thing is just done better with their style of technique. You’ll open up the back faster and more fully.