5 Axis Breakout Board Driver Wiring Example

[@enriquemuro8210]

NSA, I have this board and have everything figured (stepper motors, e-stop, limit switches, but am having trouble with the spindle control. I have a 4kw Air Cooled Spindle with a Hitachi WJ200 VFD. 1)If I am using the 0-10v output to control the spindle speed, what pin number does that correspond too? There is no pin number on the breakout board 2) if the spindle relay is used, that would be pin 17 even though I'm not physically connecting to pin 17 on the breakout board?

[@nsa1773]

Enrique - have you seen my other video which may give you some additional information kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6a7pn2HfpinhZY

[@enriquemuro8210]

Thank you NSA for the reply and the video. I finally got my spindle running. 1) the 0-10V corresponds to pin 1 even though it is not marked on the board. Do not use the physically marked pin 1 on the board. 2) the spindle relay corresponds with pin 17. Again do not use the pin physically marked pin 17 on the board. Ensure jumper is in proper location

[@nsa1773]

@@enriquemuro8210 I am glad you got your board working. Pin17 switches either the relay to turn the spindle on / off or is used for the B axis direction control depending on the setting of the on board jumper. You would only connect to pin 17 when using it with the B Axis otherwise you connect the relay contacts to the drive / spindle run connections. Pin 1 is the PWM signal from the system which controls the output voltage 0-10v - again you never connect to pin 1 - you connect the 0-10v +/- connections from the board to the analogue input of your spindle drive.

[@mattivirta]

relay pin 17 and PWM pin 1

[@brianheath72]

The drive power to the stepper driver is that high voltage like the 12-24v or should that be what your motors need like 3.6v thanks for any assistance...

[@nsa1773]

Brian....the more voltage the better as long as it does not exceed your stepper driver maximum voltage. Modern stepper drives control the current to the drives for higher voltage allow for maximum torque / power to be delivered at higher speeds. A good website for info on this is geckodrive.com

[@brianheath72]

@@nsa1773 thanks, I just got it rewired and think my breakout board might be failing, x wants to only go one direction and z errors with no movement at all

[@nsa1773]

@@brianheath72 have you had the system working previously.

[@brianheath72]

@@nsa1773 Yes, but I moved and didn't have it up for about 5 months

[@mattivirta]

@@nsa1773 better use driver maximum or near power to motors, better torque. etc, DM542 or 556 max volt have 50 volt power have better use near this about 46-48volt supply,voltage, not use motor power 12-24 votl weak lot and lose steps.

[@mgardnerflipflopmachinist]

Do you have to use the 5v usb port or can you just wire in an external 12-24vdc supply?

[@nsa1773]

You need a 5v supply to power the board. This can be supplied via the USB socket via lead from your PC / USB power pack or an external 5V supply connected to the PCGND and PC5V terminals on the terminals block. The 12-24V supply is also required to control the input opto's / relay and onboard PWM. Both supplies are required and provided isolation between the circuits. Please see my other video at kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6a7pn2HfpinhZY

[@mgardnerflipflopmachinist]

@@nsa1773 awesome, much appreciated! thank you very much!

[@mattivirta]

@@nsa1773 input pins not working if not has connect external 12 volt power. card need this too. 12 volt go to input pin optocouplers power.and relay if need.

[@printerautomations]

When I connect this stage, I get the error "rnr motion card not found". What do you think might be the reason?

[@nsa1773]

I have not used the rnr motion card in this video. If you have substituted the shown breakout board for the rnr motion card then it could be incorrect driver installation, missing driver files, missing plugin, faulty card, incorrect wiring etc.

[@printerautomations]

@@nsa1773 So where can I find the drivers for this card? I think I used the wrong card files?

[@nsa1773]

@@printerautomations The card in the video uses a standard old type pc parallel interface and no drivers are required the older the PC the better. If your pc does not have a parallel interface you are better purchasing a usb to parallel motion controller i.e. UC100. A cheap usb to parallel interface will not be reliable.

[@printerautomations]

@@nsa1773 I worked hard this evening and I'm still trying, I think my computer's LPT is not working, I'll check again tomorrow, thank you. My computer is Windows 7, it is an old computer

[@nsa1773]

@@printerautomations Make sure the parallel port is enabled in the bios, set to epp/ecp and identify port address. There is a driver test.exe in the Mach3 directory. This breakout board to work requires power via the USB socket at all times and will require a separate 12-24v supply to use inputs /relay/pwm. Have you viewed my other video at kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6a7pn2HfpinhZYsi=UUNk95vqwj71Uqwz

[@SiPeRa_Sivaperumalraj]

Sir, we connect a stepper motor driver on the five white ports on breakout board ?.

[@nsa1773]

SiPeRa what is the question?

[@SiPeRa_Sivaperumalraj]

Sir, In the breakout board white colour five ports are what ?. Each ports are has four pins. Thats help to connect a driver ?.

[@nsa1773]

SiPeRa You can connect your drivers via the screw terminals or the white axis connectors. Each white axis connector has a +5v, clk, dir and enable pins. See my other video at kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6a7pn2HfpinhZY which shows the screw terminal connections.

[@joygeorgelawrence1441]

Hi, Could I connect a router machine instead of the spindle without the VFD? If so, could I be able to use pin 17 to control the router on/off?

[@nsa1773]

Yes you use P17 / The on board relay to switch your router on / off. To protect the life of the on board relay I would probably use it to switch another relay / solid state relay. If you do use the onboard relay contacts at high voltage - place a snubber across the contacts to improve the contact life.

[@regpugh9021]

Hi, just viewed both your guides for this board, the best i have seen. Reg

[@nsa1773]

Thanks for the comment.

[@MrIonutz2008]

Hi, i have homing sensors npn NC so they are located at homing end of machine for homing reference olny. Actually i use a usb bob and all three sensors are wired in parallel to one input pin on bob, but i want to upgrade to UC400ETH and use the bob you have in video. The question is, can i use only one input pin from those 12,13,15 pins for homing purpose or each sensor needs to be hooked on it's particular axis pin ? One more thing noticed, between 1:10 and 1:20 in your video you specify what the jumper does. By saying the Connected P17 controls the on board relay, can you develop this section please and explain what is to be connected to P17 so it triggers the relay from outside? Isn't the relay meaned to be triggered from Mach when you switch the spindle on/off ? Idon't really know how the parallel bobs work. Also is there any reason why the 5v input power should go in usb port and not into the 5v screw terminals ? Thank you.

[@nsa1773]

I believe you can still wire all three homing switches into one input and setup Mach 3 accordingly. With the jumper connected the onboard relay is controlled from P17 on the parallel port via mach3 which is also connected to the screw terminal P17 which will follow the on / off signal 0v or 5v, you are not triggering the relay from outside! I am sure you can connect 5v to the screw terminals instead of the USB port if required.

[@MrIonutz2008]

@@nsa1773 Thank you.

[@mikefromspace]

how to know i the lpt1 port address is known? what is Dir Low acti... what is Step Low a....? Also I have a separate control unit that came with my spindle. Should I just use that? It's 1500W 120v

[@nsa1773]

An older desktop PC (WinXP?) is best for this type of breakout board with inbuilt motherboard Parallel port which operates at 5v logic. The port address is found in the main bios of the PC. After setup of your Machine / axis / wiring / mach3 etc if your X+ or Y+ or Z+ etc axis move in the opposite to your intended +ve direction then changing the state of the Dir Low Active signal for each incorrect axis will correct the movement. As we have connected the PUL+ to +5v the drive electronics usually uses 'Step Low Active enabled Green Tick! configuration for Step pulse control. I control / turn my spindle on/off and speed setting manually from its own control box.

[@johnnegru8517]

hello there. I am wiring a 48V power supply with DM556 and the board in the video. I have seen other people not using the enable pins on the driver, what is the enable for and in what position do I set DIP switch 4 if I want to use it. Thanks

[@nsa1773]

The drive enable pin is a safety feature allowing you to easily enable / disable the drives / motors without having to kill the main power to the machine as this could result in damage to the drivers etc. It is recommended to use this feature. A machine would normally be fitted with one or more estop buttons wired into the breakout board estop input as shown in the video. When mach3 is configured correctly the drives will only be enabled when the system is reset with no estops activated and the drives will be safely disabled if an estop is activated/pressed. When a drive is enabled and no pulses are received to the drive in a few seconds the drive goes into holding force mode set by dip switch 4. This ensure the axis are held in position and cannot be easily moved. Normally you would set half power as this reduces heat build up in the motors. You may only need to set full power on i.e. a Z axis supporting a large load/weight.

[@johnnegru8517]

@@nsa1773 that's great. Thank you for this valuable piece of info and for your time

[@mihailucian409]

Hello is it possible to connect endswitch or tool changer to this type of breakboard and used together with linuxcnc? Thank you

[@nsa1773]

I’m a sure the board would work with Linuxcnc although I have not tested it myself. End switches / limit switches switches can be configured. Please provide more details on what you want to do with an endswitch and more details on toolchanger.

[@mihailucian409]

@@nsa1773 I have converted a conventional mill Optimum MB4 to numerical control.long story short:ballscrews,c7 2503,1:3 gear ratio on all three axis ,Stepper motors 8Nm X and Y axis,12Nm on Z axis.Dirty waters pump as a coolant system.It does not require a lot of maintenance. No linear,no multi-turn encoder. So I need I switch somewhere on the Z axis,I'm thinking to the superior limit. At each start it'll go on top and I will have an absolute real position on Z. I need it for the tool changing operation.i will use an automatic tool changer and I intend to replace the original spindle with a 3.7kw servomotor.the tool changer will be operated by arduino.all I need is a 1 logic command,5v from the breakout board when I set the command M6Tx in LinuxCnc.thank you in advance.

[@nsa1773]

@@mihailucian409 I have a conventional router using this breakout board and mach3 and use two limits switches on each axis which act as homing and limits. Once the machine is homed I use a macro and a signal to the probe input to set my tool zero. Mach 3 does have in built features to support auto tool change but having not used Linuxcnc I do not know what features are available. I am sure there will be other videos on KZbin where someone is doing what you require.

[@mattivirta]

if add automatic tool change system need lot more pins output and input need use mesa card not this controller.

[@mattivirta]

@@nsa1773 linuxcnc and mesa card can build lot more input/output and make lot more makros and hal code what want do, linuxcnc can build lot lot more than windows base mach3 hal code, makro code, and mesa card lot more external tools etc what you want future build you cnc,

[@9700784176]

do i need to use shielded cables, anywhere? i heard, a CNC machine should be properly grounded to eliminate interferences. please explain.

[@BigChris2976]

To minimise any potential problems I would always recommend using sheilded cables. Only ground your shield at one end of the cable to avoid ground loops.

[@mattivirta]

@@BigChris2976 and keep power supply wires far at pulse/data wires, pulse/data wires to board and drivers and motors good be shield cables, cable have aluminium foil top wires.

[@salehgado6977]

Is it possible to control 20 drivers at once, turn on, stop, and reverse the movement?

[@pedrohenriqueph8908]

Yes, you can wiring 20 drivers in the same step and dir pin "i guess"

[@mattivirta]

@@pedrohenriqueph8908 but then ALL move same,

[@milosmanitasevic5903]

Hello. I have driver dm556 and i wonder can I use same wiring schedule like this? I can not find any other wiring example on internet.

[@nsa1773]

The DM556 is just a lower voltage version of the same drive. You can use the same wiring schedule.

[@milosmanitasevic5903]

Thank you

[@SiPeRa_Sivaperumalraj]

Sir, I do not have parallel port in my computer. So, we use USB to parallel port cable to connect a breakout board and computer ?

[@nsa1773]

If you are using a generic usb to parallel port these will not work with cnc applications. They cannot generate the signals at the required pulse speeds reliably. I would recommend either a UC100 usb to parallel port motion controller or a UC400ETH which is an Ethernet adapter to two parallel ports converter specifically for cnc applications. I currently use a genuine UC100 be cautious of Chinese cheaper versions.

[@mattivirta]

if pc have pci and pciE connection then can use paraller port card, pci to LPT card cost less than 10$ normal pc can use 2 paraller port card and then can connect controller board, breakoutboard.

[@gonvindecoupe8685]

Hello I am trying to connect the DQ542 MA drivers to this driver board, can we make the same connections as you? Thank you in advance,

[@nsa1773]

Yes you can connect your DM542MA in place of the DM856.

[@gonvindecoupe8685]

@@nsa1773 ok

[@bengkelsantosadjaya8191]

Mach 3 to dm542. Problem is i run x axiz cursor . Why z axiz is run? I run z axiz, x axiz will run. Pin have been check correctly. What is a solution? I have been change new bob mach3. The result still same

[@nsa1773]

How are you moving the axis. If you go into Mach3 /MDI Alt 2 menu and program a X move does the X drive operate. Either the wiring is wrong or the port setup pins are wrong or you have what you think is the Z motor connected to the X drive and vice versa.

[@SiPeRa_Sivaperumalraj]

Sir, in limit switch section what is probe ?. And each axis I want to install two limit switch. Eg: x' and x. I can connect in same connection two limit switches ?

[@nsa1773]

The probe is a device used to aid setting the Z height position. You normally place it on top of your work piece and run a Z auto tool zero macro to set the Z height. You can wire two limit switches for each axis the best way is to follow the guidance in the Mach3 manual which can be downloaded free from there website.

[@mattivirta]

e-stop and all 6 limit switch can connect to paraller same input, then if limit switch bush stop all machine this is safety and important ewery axis, and this board limit XYZ inputs can use home switch connections, better way. probe used ewerytime if change bit at spindle, software know how high you bit have, zero position to bit, important ewery time when change tool. yotube have many video how use touch probe.

[@bengkelsantosadjaya8191]

Sir. I have problem with mach3 bob paralell i put pin 2,3 for x. motor x can start. I try to put pin 0.0 in the computer sotfware mach 3 settings with the cable still on pin 2,3 in bob mach3 the motor is still on .. where did it go wrong?

[@nsa1773]

It is not clear what you are asking. Please give further information on what you are doing. There is no pin 0.0 settings. When you connect configure the drivers and mach3 correctly you can test using the keyboard keypad or test a move by entering G00 X1.6 in the MDI (Manual Data Input) screen. The motor should move and then be held / locked in position - the motor is always on once enabled and uses the holding current you set on the drive / dip switch setting.

[@mikeandrews1508]

Hi Can I wire my motors directly to the breakout board in the slots provided which fit the motor connections?

[@nsa1773]

No. The stepper motors must be connected to a suitable driver rated to suit the motor size / power. The breakout board provides the required interface between your software / pc and the drives to control the driver and stepper operation.

[@jesscast5122]

NO. the BREAKOUT board (only FANS out) Provides CONTROL SIGNALS. nothing else. and those signals TELL the MOTOR DRIVER what to do with the MOTOR.....

[@mattivirta]

@@nsa1773 and motor max current need know buy driver board, TB6600 handle max 3A not can use 4A max current motor good too less ampere, need DM 546 driver can handle 4A motor or DM 860 6A motor. driver and motor need be same size ,current important.

[@nsa1773]

@@mattivirta Thank you for your comment. The video is a wiring example for beginners and not intended as a system specification for drives and motors. In one of my replies the drives should be matched to the required system motors for the application.

[@mattivirta]

NO, all stepepr motors need own driver board too. etc DM556, DM542, worst TB8860 etc external driver board.

[@haziqiqbalhussain]

I wanna use it for my C axis. Can I use B axis connections for my C axis while the rest be the same? If yes, what to do with the software? thanks in advance

[@nsa1773]

Other experts may no better than me....you can technically connect any port to any axis as long as long as your software / post processor can be modified to what is thinks is C to write is out a B etc. Or you can produce the G code file and then edit the file and change all reference to C axis to port B. As long as you have configured the correct tuning and steps etc for port B to match the C stepper this should work. I don’t think you can do any kind of slaving for this option.

[@onixtrobotica1538]

thanks, got a question, i have driver dq542ma version, will it work same way?

[@nsa1773]

This will work the same with virtually any stepper driver. Just check all connections carefully set your current limits and required microstepping mode.

[@wongkonslet4729]

I am from Indonesia🇮🇩, thanks for information 👍👍👍

[@nsa1773]

Thank you, best wishes.

[@SiPeRa_Sivaperumalraj]

Sir, what is mean by optocoupler in this board ?. And we connect driver and breakout board by optocoupler connection ?

[@nsa1773]

The board has built in optocoupler connections for the input and PWM control which provides isolation between your signals and the computer. This offer a degree of protection so you don’t blow up your computer. This is why this board requires both the 5v psu and a separate supply for the inputs.

[@SiPeRa_Sivaperumalraj]

Sir, I can build 8x6 feet table cnc router machine soon. Mach3 or Arduino which interface is best for me.

[@nsa1773]

A machine of this size my personal preference would be Mach3 / Mach4

[@wearetherandombros7782]

Are you happy with that controller ??

[@mattivirta]

linuxcnc have safety lot better than mach3, arduino have only toy motors user laser or 3D printers small nema 17 motor controller, linuxcnc have only safety REALTIME interface software,and flexiple make lot more tools and makros and code. linuxcnc and mach3 use real G-code but arduino toy use old historic GRBL system and not support all G-code

[@SiPeRa_Sivaperumalraj]

Sir, I load gcode file in mach3. .tap format file only loading. .gcode format file is not working in mach3. But, two format files are gcode file. And easily any way to download gcode in online for door designing.

[@nsa1773]

Your problem is not clear. Mach3 accepts Gcode file in txt, tap, nc, ncc file formats. Have you chosen the correct post processor in the software which generates the Gcode file. Please explain the problem in more detail. Mach3 should simulate the axis movement even with no drives connected.

[@lolokhorkhore4472]

thank you for video i want to get g code from stl file in powermill at the last I should put machine type for example fanuk or simens .... what I shod be enter that name ?

[@mitsosster5739]

I would like to ask you 12-24v dc external what exactly does it do.Thank you.Nc video

[@nsa1773]

The user digital inputs and the PWM spindle control are electrically isolated from your pc usb connection. If you wish to use the digital inputs and or the PWM spindle control, the board must be supplied with an external power supply in addition to your usb supply.

[@erika2378]

@@nsa1773 What exactly are the digital inputs?

[@nsa1773]

@@erika2378 The digital inputs shown on the left hand side of the board in the video from 1:20 allow the user to give signals to the board / mach 3 software. The video shows some typical inputs to the system. ESTOP usually configured to enable / disable the drives, X/Y/Z limits switches configued for homing or to stop the motors if a limits is reached and a typical one also is PROBE used normally to zero / reference an axis zero point usually Z axis. The inputs can be configured for many different uses but there is a limited number available.

[@mattivirta]

@@erika2378 inputs connected E-stop, important, and limit switch, and probe Z tool height zeroing important ewery time if change bit.

[@alfonsocanales7210]

there's something I don't understand. I want to work with 5 axis, so, that means I have to move the jumper for P17. wich disables the relay, right? so that means I'm not going to be able to control the spindle? what Do I have to do? Thank you!! and That was a good video by the way.

[@nsa1773]

In order to have more outputs to control your spindle you would require a second Bob and a second parallel port. When two parallel ports are required it is better to consider a motion controller such as UC400ETH.

[@alfonsocanales7210]

@@nsa1773 Thank you so much!!

[@Michael-it5zz]

Can I wire my motors directly to the breakout board without the microstep driver?

[@nsa1773]

No. The stepper motors must be connected to a suitable driver rated to suit the motor size / power. The breakout board provides the required interface between your software / pc and the drives to control the driver and stepper operation.

[@Michael-it5zz]

Thank you very much. This explains why mach3 wasn't recognizing my 5 axis controller. So once I buy the drivers, will mach3 give me some sort of alert or notice that it has detected the drivers?

[@nsa1773]

Faded Galaxy You should be able to test the operation of your breakout board without any steppers motors or drivers attached. Attaching drivers and motors won’t help if mach3 is not recognising your board. You need to check your Mach 3 setup and ensure you have the correct port address for your parallel port, then setup the ports and pins. There is a way to manually check each pin within mach3, google for mach3 testing procedures.

[@derekbothma3624]

Make sure your parallel port is set to EPP mode in the BIOS. Old PC's with on-board parallel ports are best. PCI add in cards can be hit and miss.

[@jesscast5122]

NO. HOW are you going to DRIVE the MOTOR?? you said it: uStep DRIVER!!! right?? You need a DRIVER to DRIIIIIIVE the MOTORRRRRRRR.... dang!! you really are "FADED"

[@pradeep809]

Why is Pul+ going into Enable + ??? Wiring looks wrong

[@nsa1773]

PUL+/DIR+/ENA+ are normally connected together and connected to the BOB +5v supply. The PUL-/DIR-/ENA- are connected to the correct pins on the BOB and configured in MACH3. The axis PUL signal will be configured for active low on. DIR can be configured / changed to active low off or on to suit default direction as required by machine. ENA- can be left not connected and the drive will function. If ENA- is connected then MACH3 Enable can be configured to stop the drive on an Estop etc or until mach 3 system is reset. This is as the Leadshine manual. The wiring / system can be setup with the PUL/DIR/ENA negatives commoned to BOB GND and the relevant PUL/DIR/ENA positive signals connected to the BOB and MACH3 settings changed accordingly.

[@pradeep809]

@@nsa1773 Thanks 🙏👍

[@ZONAEDINSON]

amigo cual es la verdadera salida de relay P1, P17 o spindle switch le agradesco su respuesta

[@nsa1773]

Output 1 in mach3 is setup to pin 17 to switch the spindle relay on/off. This allows the on control via the M3 command. Setting the spindle on pin 1 will output the set PWM frequency on this pin. Your spindle inverter may be able to use this signal as the speed reference or you can use the 0-10v signal as the speed reference.

[@ZONAEDINSON]

amigo pero e visto en videos que usan mas el puerto se spindle switch

[@nsa1773]

ZONA 7 sorry i don’t understand the question due to translation.

[@mattivirta]

pin 17 have spindle relay on/off can use SSD relay turn power on/off spindle and pin 1 spindle PWM speed control.

[@zafosinferno888]

Thank you for the explanation. Can you connect 2 drivers on the same ports of the controller to drive two stepper motor on the same direction?

[@nsa1773]

Some people do get away with connecting two drivers to one port on the Bob but it is not normally recommended as you can overload the Bob depending on the current being taken by the inputs of the drivers and any additional noise which may be generated / induced. Normally you would connect your second motor / driver to a spare port on the Bob and slave that port to the first motor port in mach3. I.e if the first driver is connected to port A and the second driver is connected to port D you slave port D to port A in mach3.

[@zafosinferno888]

@@nsa1773 i ve been trying to find a bob like that having dual ports for the 3 axis where i want to use two motors for each and 2 single ones for A and B axis. any recommendations? (mach3 capable would be great)

[@nsa1773]

zafosinferno888 if you require more ports you can add a second Bob. You will need a second parallel port on your pc. If you add add parallel card it must have 5v logic not 3.3. You can get a UC400ETH motion controller providing Ethernet to two parallel ports for connection to two bobs and control up to 6 axis. There are other products smoothstepper or other Ethernet based six axis controllers - check out lollette.com for details or cnc4you. A dedicated motion controller is a better products as it takes the load of the pc and controls timing and buffering.

[@mattivirta]

@@zafosinferno888 better use ewery motor own driver and if need ewery axis 2 motor need 6 axis board, or better buy mesa card lot more input/ouput pins can configure many motors drivers have lot pins.

[@Lc-wi3wk]

Hello.. Does this wiring is for most drivers? I have DM542A is the same? Regards

[@nsa1773]

This wiring suits most drivers of this type. The DM542 wiring is identical to the one in the video.

[@Lc-wi3wk]

@@nsa1773 Thanks! Other question... :) I have one drive that the green lights starts to blink.. And the motor won't run.. Ruined driver??

[@nsa1773]

@@Lc-wi3wk the green light would normally be on permanently the drive is powered. The red light normally flashes to indicate errors, the frequency of flash higlights the actual error. Sound like the drive may be fault or bad power connection external or internal.

[@nsa1773]

One other thing to check is the enable signal. Some drives flash the green light when the drive is powered but not enabled. I am not sure if the DM542 works this way and if it is a genuine leadshine drive or a generic copy which may operate differently.

[@Lc-wi3wk]

I don't know enough about electronics.. But it has a R050 when I use multimeter it won't make continuity like the others and when use ohms shows 1.998 Can that be the problem??

[@SiPeRa_Sivaperumalraj]

sir, how to set a sm switch in stepper motor driver for nema 23 stepper motor. please replay to me sir.

[@nsa1773]

You set the dip switches on your stepper driver to suit the specification of the motor and set the microstepping units as required to suit your requirement / application.

[@SiPeRa_Sivaperumalraj]

Sir, all the driver Dir+ connect to same pin on breakout board. please, replay to me.

[@nsa1773]

All the enable +, dir + & pulse + on all axis go to the +5v this is the common feed. The pulse - and dir - go to different connections on the breakout board for each axis as indicated. The enable - for each drive goes to the one enable - connection on the breakout board.

[@koplandavid]

how can you control 5 axis with 12 outputs?

[@nsa1773]

Hi, if you want to use the spindle relay (jumper P17 on) then the board can only control 4 axis. If you want to use the board to control a fifth axis remove jumper P17 and the board will control the fifth (B axis) on pins 16 and 17 but you lose control of the spindle.

[@jasepotts2865]

@@nsa1773 Hi I want to have a rotary axis. If I use the b axis and lose the spindle relay how do I turn on the spindle?

[@nsa1773]

Jase Potts - Just use an manually operated on off switch connected to your vfd. Switch the spindle on first and start the program.

[@mattivirta]

@@jasepotts2865 manual switch turn spindle on/off.

[@EL34XYZ]

Great video. What 5 axis board is that? I am going to be using the same setup for Mach3 soon.

[@EL34XYZ]

I found this board on amazon. Looks to be the same layout as your board? www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078HWK353

[@ssafawmn1635]

Thanks for the comment. Its a non branded generic board. Just search for 5 axis breakout board on ebay etc.

[@EL34XYZ]

@@ssafawmn1635 Thanks. I got one on Amazon

[@gangleweed]

Thank you for the info, just what I need as I'm upgrading my 3018 CNC router to run with Mach3 and intending to replace the GRBL control board with this one......I already have 3 stepper drivers to go with it and a power supply.

[@roland8061]

Is it possible to control any hobby ESC with the PWM output from Spindel? Thanks.

[@nsa1773]

If your hobby ESC accepts a 0-10v signal then it can be connected to the 0-10v signal from the breakout board.

[@jgredy7]

what about endstops?

[@nsa1773]

The end stop / limits wiring is shown in the video in simplified format . The mach 3 manual shows how to wire both end stop limits for an axis in series where one is also utilised as the homing trigger.

[@mattivirta]

@@nsa1773 NO series any not working if serie then all other have open and one only closed and no connections, paraller all E-stop and axis limit switch then if one have closed then stop, closed any sw then stop. E-stop have safety switch stop machine if somethink have wrong, and limit switch have same but ewery axis top if code run machine out of rail top stop all machine.

[@vigisbigtm]

Thanks for great explanation! Can you let me know if this board will work with LinuxCNC?

[@nsa1773]

The board should work with any system / software which communicates via a parallel port.

[@mattivirta]

yes, most used board whit linuxcnc or mach3 or 4.

[@airwolf08]

many thanks for this tutorial i followed it with 2 steppers and two drivers but only one stepper will work am i missing something many thanks in advance

[@nsa1773]

Have you verified both drivers / motors are working correctly individually. If the driver / motor on the X port is working correctly disconnect the working driver / motor and connect the second driver / motor to the x port and verify that driver works ok. If your drivers have the terminal blocks this is easily done for testing. Once you have verified both motors / drivers do function correctly then it must be a setup problem. If the second driver motor does not work when plugged into the original working port then it is a wiring fault or hardware fault. How are you testing in Mach 3, typing manual commands or downloading Gcode file.

[@airwolf08]

@@nsa1773 Hello many thanks for the quick response i have two drivers connected to one break out board and a stepper motor connected to each driver now when i connected the first stepper motor ( x ) i tested it in mach 3 and it worked so i then wired the next driver exactly the same way ,this was then wired to my ( Y ) stepper and to the breakout board and when i tried it in mach 3 , x still worked but y didnt even move .I them swopped the drivers around and it was still the same x worked and y didnt i then thought it might be something in mach3 settings but im not too sure about that bit ,before i turn all power on to the drivers i can turn the steppers by hand but once power is on there is no way i can turn the stepper motor even the y motor so i would of thought power is getting to it ,im just pulling my hair out so i do appreciate your help kevin

[@nsa1773]

Oakmeadows, once the basic setup is complete the motor should be tuned to your system. Details on doing this is not shown in the video. As you are probably not connected to any system go into motor tuning tuning and make a note of the X axis settings.Make sure the Y motor is set to the same as the X and try again. This relationship / setup will effect the number of pulses required to see movement. If you still have problems let me know and 8 will repeat the setup over the next few days and check.

[@airwolf08]

@@nsa1773 Hello today i have tested all the drivers and 2 dont work with the breakout board im using.The driver i am using is an ST M5045 which works but the other 2 drivers are DM542 and theses dont work with the same breakout board,i spent all night disconnecting and reconnecting just to find the one driver only works with mach3 the other 2 drivers do work but not with mach 3 i am now baffled many thanks

[@nsa1773]

Oakmeadows Areyou using the same breakout board in the video? Have you set the microstepping to the same value on all drives? In motor tuning for x axis for testing set steps per mm to ie. 1200, set velocity to say 300mm per min, set acceleration low, set step pulse and dir pulse to max (5us) Some drive must get the direction signal head of the pulse signal. You can use the keyboard to move the motor whilst changing these settings. Please advise what operating system and are you using pc or laptop etc. You can disconnect the enable signals and the drives should be enabled permanently. If genuine DM542 have you used the auto tune feature?

[@fcsigntech2809]

Software link

[@nsa1773]

www.machsupport.com/software/mach3/

[@touseef5864]

pls somebody tell me how to spindle clock wise or anticlock

[@nsa1773]

This board only has one relay which can be used for switching the spindle on / off. You can connect any other unused output I.e pin 16 to you own relay (ensure back emf protection) and connect those contacts to your direction control on your spindle. In mach3 you set the cw direction to say output 1 which you configure in ports and pins to pin 17 and the ccw to output 2 set to I.e pin 16. In order for your spindle / vfd accept external controls you have to change some settings in the vfd. Consult your vfd manual for this. Some trial and error may be required to prove this setup.

[@nsa1773]

Can you tell me what vfd you are using to drive your spindle. The exact configuration of mach3 and the wiring of any relays may be specific to your vfd.

[@touseef5864]

@@nsa1773 yaskawa F7 vfd. sir vfd have option forward and reverse but breakboad have one option we can use either clock wise or anticlock.

[@nsa1773]

@@touseef5864 I have added a new video which shows you one solution which should be suitable for your Yaskawa VFD. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZ_YhmR6nNCciLM

[@touseef5864]

@@nsa1773 sir I tried this but its not working for me and my spindle also stop working clockwise in this way. I put single channel relay module. in relay I put wire p16 to in Gnd to pcGnd vcc to pc5V please help me relay working but spindle not working clockwise and anticlockwise.

[@MuthuKumar-qi2um]

Works like a charm thanks for the video.

[@wearetherandombros7782]

Are you happy with that controller ??

[@MuthuKumar-qi2um]

​@@wearetherandombros7782 Its holding up well, using it for the light duty work

[@printerautomations]

When I connect this stage, I get the error "rnr motion card not found". What do you think might be the reason?

[@ryanwilson1369]

Just putting this out there. I have a LABVOLT 5400 CNC Mill and I am trying to wire it into a Mach3 controller to control using my laptop. If anyone can help me out I am willing to pay a little bit so that I can get this project finished. I just need help with the wiring and setup of the controller.

[@nsa1773]

Ryan, apologies I have been ill and have just noticed your question. Please ask any question and I will try to help.

[@ryanwilson1369]

@@nsa1773 well. I was hoping to have someone be able to look over my wiring up to the controller as well as potential help me with the configuration of the software once I install it again. Is this something you'd be able to help with potentially?

[@nsa1773]

@@ryanwilson1369 Please send me some drawings / pictures or links to picture etc and I will do my best to help / advise.

[@ryanwilson1369]

@@nsa1773 did you end up emailing me? I put my emails on you didn't have to put yours out there. This way I can send you pictures.

[@nsa1773]

@@ryanwilson1369 I haver not seen you email address please advise....

[@yourdad8582]

WTF!!! why are you connecting Pulse - , Dir - and Enable - to the second pin ( pc 5v) header pin???? It should go into the PCGND pin ( 3rd Pin )

[@nsa1773]

WTF!! Thank you for the over dramatic response. There is a slight perspective error in the photograph used for the Stepper drive and the printing of the labels on the drive but there are only six inline signal connections and the Blue wire is connected to PUL+, DIR+ AND ENABLE+ and is connected to the +5v PIN2.

[@ahmedramzyabdelhady9398]

thanks for this great video but i need to connect this parts with more detail for spindle

[@nsa1773]

ahmedramzy abdelhady What more detail do you want? What spindle do you have and what make / model of vfd spindle driver do you have?

[@ahmedramzyabdelhady9398]

i have benifited alot from this video thank but I want to know how to get my spindle working with Mach3.and how I can wiring vdf with this board and control on/off and speed with the software instead of using the panel on the VFD. thanks NSA

[@ahmedramzyabdelhady9398]

i have benefited alot from this video thanks but I want to know how to get my spindle working with Mach3.how wiring vdf spindel with this board and control on/off and speed with the software instead of using the panel on the VFD. thanks NSA have anice day

[@nsa1773]

ahmedramzy abdelhady Tell me the make and model of the vfd and I may be able to advise.

[@ahmedramzyabdelhady9398]

CNC Router Spindle Motor 2.2KW 80 ER20

[@markb7268]

Thank you ,makes things clearer now

[@nsa1773]

Thanks for your comment.

[@mattivirta]

better wiring all limit SW and E-stop paraller if one closed all cnc stop no broken axis, and home SW add X,Y,Z limit and important probe pin 15 normal.

[@nsa1773]

Thank you for your comment. Limits switch arrangements can be dependent on the system application. Limits switches and estops should be Normally closed contacts which are physically broken by the switch activation. Estops should be separate to limit switches and whilst mach3 and other systems can disable the drives through the breakout board and software I always in industrial application run my estops through a safety monitoring relay and physically also safely kill power and enable signals to the drives. In my first initial startup system I had two n.c. Limits switches wired in series for each axis for each axis connected to the three inputs, mach3 was then configured to use one of the switches for each axis as a homing switch. The activation of any limits switch in operation will stop the entire process, and on reset will allow the system to be reversed from the activated limit switch.

[@mattivirta]

@@nsa1773 OK. i think all need stop sure than E-stop if axis bush top of rail limti sw, because then machine have somethink lot wrong if drive out of area/rail. limit sw have top of linear rail ,and home sw have important run all axis first to home, and home sw have different dimension to axis, top have limit stop SW and then near have home SW home only zero axs but can drive motor out home swit top rail and then have limit this mean have top rail and not can go more then need stop all machine because have dangerous and broke machine if can run after limit sw. example i has tes one cnc and all limit SW has not conected, Z block run out of machine and broken all beam supports, have important limit SW stop sure all machine, if G-code have somethink wrong run out and fast you not can bush E-stop than fast if go full speed out of beam etc. limit SW have just this important stop motors if run out. home SW have normal machine zero point need run, same than need zero bit ewerytime if change tool. not crash to table bit or run under table, or run broken parts. software limit not have real and safe system only. need be ewery axis top limit SW. emergency limit.

[@watchingin3d549]

Ty

[@mukhdi80]

Thank You

[@سياسةومجتمع]

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[@facebooksupportteam3645]

Can this work with parallel robots where there is no stepper actually responsible for lets say Xaxis alone?

[@nsa1773]

I don’t think mach3 is suitable for controlling parallel robots.

[@facebooksupportteam3645]

@@nsa1773 thanxs for answering, and can you tell me a program to do the job like mach3, i can make the inverse kinematics for it and i have also the matlab model for this robot in simmechanics

[@nsa1773]

I am not into parallel robots but I believe linuxcnc has some kinametics functionality. Check the linuxcnc website and videos on KZbin.

[@facebooksupportteam3645]

@@nsa1773 Can ROS make the same thing, and which is easier to learn ROS or linux cnc?